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terryemm
10-04-2009, 11:17 AM
Hi,

I've been reading / listening to David's work and reading this forum for a while now but forgive me if this has already been mentioned...

Most of you must have seen or heard about the Zeitgeist films?...Well those films seem to have now become the activist arm of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' and something called 'The Venus Project'.

I think this is another step for all of us to unite with like minded people all over the world. The venus project supplies some very commendable solutions and interesting ideas for what could happen without the 'powers that be', monetary system etc. both from a psycological view and scientifically. The main idea is a resource based society, where the earths resources are made the heritage of all people.

Depends what you believe about the future of the earth of course, you might argue that there will be a natural solution, 2012 etc. but there's all sorts of ideas flying around over there, so if you haven't already check out:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

and http://www.thevenusproject.com

Here's a venus project trailer...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf1gZxmIDKw

eyepod
10-04-2009, 11:54 AM
The main idea is a resource based society, where the earths resources are made the heritage of all people.


Do you really believe that all the 6.7 billion people currently on earth are all going to be living in those futuristic detached houses in gorgeous locations by the sea? Or are you just promoting the ideals of the elite - massive population reduction, communism and a futuristic utopia for the chosen ones where the useless eaters have been eradictated except for a few million of the mindless slave class to do their every bidding?

I've got a feeling if you're posting on here, you, your friends and family will not be living in such a utopia - you'll be on the euthanasia list like most of the rest of us or if you're unlucky - an un-paid, un-rewarded, un-thinking slave. Be careful what you wish for.

clozaril
10-04-2009, 12:05 PM
Most of you must have seen or heard about the Zeitgeist films?...Well those films seem to have now become the activist arm of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' and something called 'The Venus Project'.


use the search function

you'll find many threads on the subject

danster82
10-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Yes they have some very interesting ideas which are what needed right now ideas about what we want rather than ranting on about what we dont want.

Utopia is clearly possible to anyone with any measure of imagination and foresight infact you wouldnt even need to add anything new to our world for a utopia under current conditioned you would only have to remove the artificial state of lack created so far by the elite. Super fast trains new buildings and better technology would just be extras :)

cluas
10-04-2009, 12:37 PM
i really like the first part :)

terryemm
10-04-2009, 05:08 PM
Do you really believe that all the 6.7 billion people currently on earth are all going to be living in those futuristic detached houses in gorgeous locations by the sea? Or are you just promoting the ideals of the elite - massive population reduction, communism and a futuristic utopia for the chosen ones where the useless eaters have been eradictated except for a few million of the mindless slave class to do their every bidding?

I've got a feeling if you're posting on here, you, your friends and family will not be living in such a utopia - you'll be on the euthanasia list like most of the rest of us or if you're unlucky - an un-paid, un-rewarded, un-thinking slave. Be careful what you wish for.

Who knows?...we all want something decent to happen, don't we? Depends on your beliefs I suppose.
The venus project is not involved in massive population reduction, communism or creating a utopia, the latter two are stated, which you'd know if you actually bothered to read any of the website or Zeitgeist.
Like I said...apologies that this has been mentioned on here before but I thought it was something interesting.
No need to be hostile to the newbie guys, we're all mature arn't we? Do the research, it might help.

oiram
10-04-2009, 05:23 PM
The main idea is a resource based society, where the earths resources are made the heritage of all people.
Yes this sounds good a who are the once controlling this system?
The mad murdering maniacs ruling everything now by force.

The movie never explained what should we do with all the criminals of Humanity.

Expose that one part & movie they have to add to there good ideas!

Because this will never happen that's why there idea will die.

eyepod
10-04-2009, 06:18 PM
Who knows?...we all want something decent to happen, don't we? Depends on your beliefs I suppose.
The venus project is not involved in massive population reduction, communism or creating a utopia, the latter two are stated, which you'd know if you actually bothered to read any of the website or Zeitgeist.
Like I said...apologies that this has been mentioned on here before but I thought it was something interesting.
No need to be hostile to the newbie guys, we're all mature arn't we? Do the research, it might help.

It's all well and good reading such websites and having all these wonderful beliefs but anyone with a rational brain will release that it is an unworkable system without massive depopulation. Despite what Zeitgiest claims on their website it's just repackaged communism / socialism.

Communists have the world record for murder in the name of utopia. Between 1917 and 1987 communist USSR murdered some 65million people (the equivalent of the UK population today). Communist China murdered 35million people. Like I said to you earlier - be careful what you wish for.