FLyers 4 UK WR tour = "terrorist lit" say Police!

[john white]

Props to the ever magnificent dh!

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10272

Just to let you know that some mates where suppose to come down to the Burnley event from Bradford, but got arrested by coppers. Now this is a shape of things to come.

One of the Brothers went to Tong Street, Bfd to do a few things (parked his car), before he was going to pick the others up. When he got back to his car, there were 30 odd coppers and bomb squad!

He is a electrician by trade, they must have seen the Burnley 9.11 flyers and electrical equipment at the back! They were going to blow up his car, but he got back in the nick of time.

He was Locked up for 24 hours, interegated etc. All his mates were ringing him up all evening, because he was supposed to pick them up and take them to the event!

He is now released! If they had blown the car, he would not have seen daylight for 90 days.

http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com/225988-6415-4990-1-WYTC-Event-Last-William-Rodriguez-Burnley-July.htm

Slightly more info on this incident. It would seem that the precipitating factor for the police action was the visible presence of leaflets in the car advertising the Burnley Rodriguez gig! The guy who was arrested was told initially that the flyers were regarded as terrorist literature!!!! Apparently when he returned to his car the area was cordoned off, police, bomb squad, fire engines and ambulances were present. The bomb squad were preparing a "controlled explosion" on the vehicle - if this had happened the guy could still be conceivably cooling his heels in some cop shop cell.
He may be willing to come out with his story and an interview is hopefully lined up for an independent radio station. More accurately it is said he was falsely imprisoned for 14 hours it seems. How long did it take to check out that car and the information on the flyers?
We intend to take this disgraceful story as far as it can be taken. It obviously represents an attack on street level of this movement, especially considered alongside Stephen's Liverpool tale

[paolo]

Cheers John White
Posing as paolo in here should I ever get around to posting much
Perhaps I should just come out boringly as paul to avoid all this identity confusion
dh

[klinker]

That's some heavy shit John. Good luck in getting maximum exposure for this story.

[informationx]

What did the leaflets look like? And by what basis did the police deem them as terrorist literature?

[john white]

Cheers John White
Posing as paolo in here should I ever get around to posting much
Perhaps I should just come out boringly as paul to avoid all this identity confusion
dh

Its a defo advantage of sticking to the one name I've got!

Now your here, I'll let you expand the info

That's some heavy shit John. Good luck in getting maximum exposure for this story.

Your sending of good fortune is much appreciated Klinker: your starting of threads or posting on blogs of this info elsewhere on the net would be even more appreciated!

Paolo, any chance of getting this written up as a Yorkshire 9/11 Truth press release that we can then go monster on?

[paolo]

The bloke was very relieved to get away from pig clutches.
They've apparently done him on some driving offences.
I hope he turns out furious enough to want to respond
In apartheid Bradford it's quite hard to easily access the muslims. At the moment it's all third party
I hope we can make the most of this

[mr_pixie]

Props to the ever magnificent dh!

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10272

Just to let you know that some mates where suppose to come down to the Burnley event from Bradford, but got arrested by coppers. Now this is a shape of things to come.

One of the Brothers went to Tong Street, Bfd to do a few things (parked his car), before he was going to pick the others up. When he got back to his car, there were 30 odd coppers and bomb squad!

He is a electrician by trade, they must have seen the Burnley 9.11 flyers and electrical equipment at the back! They were going to blow up his car, but he got back in the nick of time.

He was Locked up for 24 hours, interegated etc. All his mates were ringing him up all evening, because he was supposed to pick them up and take them to the event!

He is now released! If they had blown the car, he would not have seen daylight for 90 days.

http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com/225988-6415-4990-1-WYTC-Event-Last-William-Rodriguez-Burnley-July.htm

Slightly more info on this incident. It would seem that the precipitating factor for the police action was the visible presence of leaflets in the car advertising the Burnley Rodriguez gig! The guy who was arrested was told initially that the flyers were regarded as terrorist literature!!!! Apparently when he returned to his car the area was cordoned off, police, bomb squad, fire engines and ambulances were present. The bomb squad were preparing a "controlled explosion" on the vehicle - if this had happened the guy could still be conceivably cooling his heels in some cop shop cell.
He may be willing to come out with his story and an interview is hopefully lined up for an independent radio station. More accurately it is said he was falsely imprisoned for 14 hours it seems. How long did it take to check out that car and the information on the flyers?
We intend to take this disgraceful story as far as it can be taken. It obviously represents an attack on street level of this movement, especially considered alongside Stephen's Liverpool tale

Thanks for that John, I think the police have been told to clamp down on the leafleting, especially anything to do with the war on terror. This is really getting serious now.:(

[mari]

Ok, How about this as a flyer?:D
http://http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/911-truth-activists-strike-motorway-lorry/727/

What a delicious thought.........lorries & trailers put into position in the dead of night, everywhere around the UK advertising pertinent websites.:cool:

Now this is what we need - anybody got any spare trailers.........?
I'm going to post this elsewhere in the forum as well.

[john white]

Ok, How about this as a flyer?:D
http://http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/911-truth-activists-strike-motorway-lorry/727/

What a delicious thought.........lorries & trailers put into position in the dead of night, everywhere around the UK advertising pertinent websites.:cool:

Now this is what we need - anybody got any spare trailers.........?
I'm going to post this elsewhere in the forum as well.

Yeah, props to Mick Meany!

[mr_pixie]

I've been put on a Terrorism Data Base List

Here's the link to the www.nineeleven.co.uk site
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=81348#81348

I was giving leaflets/fylers and Posters on Bold street in Liverpool Town Centre
when I was stopped by the police and asked what was I doing, and I told them I was giving out Leaflets for the William Rodrigeuz (last Man Out the Towers) talk in Liverpool, and the police men started getting agressive and intimadating strated away saying,

Are making money out this! they said.

Is Rodrigeuz making money out of people!

And I said no, whats the problem I'm only giving out Flyers?

And I told them that I didn't think mulsims did 9/11

And that's when they stop me under the Terrorism act, and body searched me and confiscated all my Leaflets/Fylers ETC..... And put me on the Terrorist list.

:eek:

Stephen.

[paolo]

Paolo, any chance of getting this written up as a Yorkshire 9/11 Truth press release that we can then go monster on?

Joseph, of Cremation of Care and current webmaster of wytruth.org.
(http://wytruth.org.uk) is keeping track of the story to put up on . Our contact to the person concerned is via members of Friends of Al Aqsa (http://www.aqsa.org.uk/) who are supporters. It's all a bit 3rd party. Hopefully we will get a full statement out of the guy, and he is proposed to appear on a slot on Islam radio after which it should possibly become clear.
There is some further pertinent info, but we have to decide what to do with it, as our muslim brothers are much enraged by this and do intend to follow up on their own behalf
Just to confirm absolutely that the 9/11 Rodriguez flyers were the object of the most complete concern in this case.
Glad to see Mr Pixie backing up that the conspiracy theorists are the next target after the muslims
The information that's going to come out on this is extraordinary

[john white]

Glad to see Mr Pixie backing up that the conspiracy theorists are the next target after the muslims

Which is why every "conspiracy theorist" (to them) and/or True Seeker (to us) should be doing their very best to gain understanding of Islam: we have to stand with our brothers

(Psst! Islam and Christianity (and Judaism) are one faith: its only brotherhood manipulation that makes them appear against each other!)

[paolo]

Hi John - the interview we've got with the person involved is quite extraordinary
Hope to be able to release it here soon

[informationx]

I've been put on a Terrorism Data Base List

Here's the link to the www.nineeleven.co.uk site
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=81348#81348

I was giving leaflets/fylers and Posters on Bold street in Liverpool Town Centre
when I was stopped by the police and asked what was I doing, and I told them I was giving out Leaflets for the William Rodrigeuz (last Man Out the Towers) talk in Liverpool, and the police men started getting agressive and intimadating strated away saying,

Are making money out this! they said.

Is Rodrigeuz making money out of people!

And I said no, whats the problem I'm only giving out Flyers?

And I told them that I didn't think mulsims did 9/11

And that's when they stop me under the Terrorism act, and body searched me and confiscated all my Leaflets/Fylers ETC..... And put me on the Terrorist list.

:eek:

Stephen.

Dont stand for this nonsense.

You are entitled to a full account of why the officers did what they did, and by what reasoning/law they did it under.

From what I have heard from you so far, they had absolutely no right to stop you from doing what you are doing. And if they have put you on a terrorism list, well it seems to me like the officers are completely incompetent.

Dont give in to this nonsense, dig deeper pursue it and find out what your rights are - I am sure the police will not come up smelling of roses in this case.

Alll the best.

[mr_pixie]

I've just email James Whale about this subject, tune in to Talk sport
The Whale show www.talksport.net:D

[klinker]

John is there any more news on this story? Any further media exposure?

[john white]

John is there any more news on this story? Any further media exposure?

All I know is that something will be happening in the near future: exactly when I can't say, but I'll certainly bring forward the info as soon as its available

[paolo]

Islam Radio went down on the internet from precisely 8.00pm until 8.23. The interview was thus split in two with the second part, missing all the most pertinent parts . The whole interview is here
Here (http://www.al-balaagh.com/Brother%20X/Brother%20X.MP3)
Bright as a button Take from it what you will

[john white]

Spot on Paulo cracking effort and a real clear interview that needs to be heard, especially outside the islamic community

I was particularily impressed with the guys sense of awareness and self control in the circumstances, shows the standard of having one's wits about one needed to deal with these increasingly common situations

[auron]

Wow. I've just read this thread now, I'm shocked but not surprised.

This is getting way out of hand! Being put on a watch list for handing out leaflets??

Here are the real terrorists. Print these out and put them everywhere!

http://media.indypgh.org/uploads/2004/04/gang.jpg

[cruise4]

Excellent excellent poster. Have you got a high res original for download anywhere? Thanks.

[auron]

Nope! That's just what i was thinking when i first saw it! I will keep an eye out for one though! :D

[mr_pixie]

Here's what happened to me on Tuesday 3rd July2007 - as far as I can remember. There is more, but I can't recall everything - most of the important stuff is here, though.

This was a stressful situation for me.

I was giving out leaflets for about an hour before the police stopped me, I was giving out flyers and Posters on Bold Street in Liverpool Town Centre

When I was stopped by two policemen and asked what I was doing. I told them I was giving out leaflets for the William Rodriguez “Last Man Out of the North Tower” talk in Liverpool, and then the two policemen started getting verbally aggressive and intimidating strait away by saying….

"Are you making money out of this!? Is Rodriguez making money out of people!?"
I said "No, what's the problem? I'm only giving out flyers."

Then, they stopped and cautioned me - under the Terrorism act - they body-searched me and confiscated all my Rodriguez leaflets/flyers. They took my details and made a call on the radio and they told me they had put me on the “Terrorist List”. They said I was acting suspiciously.

One of the policemen asked me if I was "anti-disestablishment".
I said, "Yes!" (I think he probably meant "anti-establishment", but he said "anti-disestablishment".)
They said, "What about the firemen?"
I said, "I'm not against the firemen."
They asked, "Where did I find out about this Rodriguez guy?"
I said, "From the 9-11 Website." I told them I didn't think Muslims "did" 9/11.
They said they wanted to look in my bag. I said "OK."
They asked me if I had any sharp objects. I said "Only a pair of scissors for cutting up leaflets."

I had more stuff in my bag - A4 papers, leaflets, postcards some DVDs etc. These were all for the talk that evening.

The policeman said, "Are you going to give this out as well?"
I said “No! That's for the Casa! That's for the Casa!” (The Casa is the venue where William Rodriguez was to speak at).

They nearly took it, but I became submissive, because I didn't want to lose all my stuff - I had just spent a lot of money on it - I told them I had just spent quite a bit on the printing. I had to hold all the things out of my pockets - in my hands. As I held my arms up, they body-searched me - treating me as if I was a criminal/terrorist. I'm a peaceful person!

They asked, "Do you have any ID?"
I said, "Why do I need ID?"
The policeman said, "That wasn't what I asked you."
He said again, "Any ID?"
I said, "No."

The 2 policemen told me that if I wanted to complain, I would have to go to a certain police station, but I can't remember the name of it, because I wasn't listening. They started lecturing me, saying things like "Where would we be without the Police?". They said they would give me the benefit of the doubt. I had to "back down" and kind of say "a three bags full, sir".

I thought afterwards how I'd just been stopped under the terrorism act - there's no benefit to that. I felt that I couldn't stick up for myself, because they would have arrested me - that's the impression they gave me. I didn't want to miss the night at the Casa and end up in jail!

And then they walked off with my WR leaflets. I felt that they had totally abused their power and that they had "got off" on their power trip.:confused:
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I'd put the leaflets and my Police Stop Form up on the screen but there doen't seem to be any way of doing this?

[john white]

Islam Radio went down on the internet from precisely 8.00pm until 8.23. The interview was thus split in two with the second part, missing all the most pertinent parts . The whole interview is here
Here (http://www.al-balaagh.com/Brother%20X/Brother%20X.MP3)
Bright as a button Take from it what you will

This interview should be a must listen for everyone, especially if you are based in the UK

The interviewee sets the standard for us all, showing how to keep ones head together in a tight squeeze

Develop the skills now, becuase you'll miss 'em if you need 'em later!

[cruise4]

Hi mr pixie... thats outrageous. Total abuse of power. ""Where would we be without the Police?" you should have said a hell of a lot better off as they are the Mob Enforcers allowing the big criminals to implement their bloody crimes.

You are entitled to a receipt for every item they take off you.

You have no choice about being submissive, I know. I would have done the same. Best thing is to get the goons out your face. This is why we are fighting now... whilst we can.

However the police are secondary. There is some decent police left and mostly its their ignorance at work. Once their master are exposed the whole house of cards will crumble

Look on the bright side... you may have just educated some on 911 truth.

Never never give up!