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luten2012
07-04-2009, 10:47 PM
No, I'm not talking about the end of the world, but I would like to know if it's starting to get to anyone else apart from me just how damn fast time is moving these days?

What does concern me about 2012 is that it's the apparent target year for the microchip..

Time is short people...The only thing that matters is the moment. Enjoy your life

themime
07-04-2009, 10:49 PM
Time is short people...The only thing that matters is the moment. Enjoy your life

How will ignoring it help?

Better to use the time to prepare.

lostworld
07-04-2009, 11:03 PM
What is worst is that we who will refuse to take the chip (unless they force us) most certainly will have a very limited life. Not being able to travel anymore, thrown out of society etc. Not that this is a society that I want any part of anyway, but still... :(

What if this is our reality in 3 years? :eek:
Like you say, time is spinning really fast now (isn't that strange too, I can't remember time going this fast before... :rolleyes: )

I have such naive friends that will never refuse the chip or question the authorities. It's just scaring how deep the programming goes in ordinary people... All the scaring tacticts seem to work, most people don't question anything. They will be first in line to be "eaten alive"... :cool:

rossus
07-04-2009, 11:13 PM
the older you get,
the faster time goes...

and without a doubt it is a fact that this hyperactive society
where everything goes superfast, screws with our perception of time.

i'm sure on a remote island or village far far away from here,
life goes by much more slowly.




has time really sped up? maybe, but not necessarily.

lostworld
07-04-2009, 11:23 PM
has time really sped up? maybe, but not necessarily.

That's what I'm starting to think though... :rolleyes:

metacomet
07-04-2009, 11:24 PM
No, I'm not talking about the end of the world, but I would like to know if it's starting to get to anyone else apart from me just how damn fast time is moving these days?


When I was a kid my parents would say time was flying by and I would scoff at them. When I was little a day seemed to last forever. When you're little, an hour is a long time.

When you grow up time genuinely seems to go faster... I was told this and it happened. Now 5 years have gone by in a flash and childhood is a memory. Quite intense. Also... knowing that time is an illusion may have caused it to cease for me. I don't genuinely feel it pass anymore. So yes, it most definitely flies by.

lostworld
08-04-2009, 12:29 AM
But could "they" perhaps be manipulating time too...? Or it could also be some natural force behind it, I don't know.

To me it's just not nostalgia - I was grown up 10 years ago also... But time IS moving faster now it seems. Not just an age thing even though I agree than when you were a child a day was forever long. :)

Wasn't there some debate about this possible "time moving faster phenomena" some time ago too... ?

STARWALKER
08-04-2009, 12:40 AM
This is two things you are talking about here:
1. Something that everybody in history has noticed. That the
experience of time is not the same. When you are 10-20
years older. Witch is to do with learning coping mechanisms
for when you are bored, or forced to to tedious things (work)
and so on. If you had felt the same now as you did when
you were 10, you would go nuts soon enough...
And as you get yet older you refine this coping mechanism.
Time appears to move faster.
However, this is not the same as what we really are talking
about here.
2. As vibratory rate of everything increases, so the
objective experience of the speed of time changes as well.
I have talked with a fair few older folks, like my grand-
mother (just turned 90, :) ), they donīt remember having
periods when they thought like:
"Oh my, time really is speeding up everyday..."
They note that it is the last 10-30 years where this has
become more and more pronounced.
This is due to the ambient and specific and fast changing
frequency around us and in us.

For what it is worth :p
My two cents

gu3rr1lla
08-04-2009, 12:45 AM
Dont worry about it :P

lostworld
08-04-2009, 12:48 AM
They note that it is the last 10-30 years where this has
become more and more pronounced.
This is due to the ambient and specific and fast changing
frequency around us and in us.


Yes, that's what I'm talking about too... :cool:

merlincove
08-04-2009, 12:57 AM
When I was a kid my parents would say time was flying by and I would scoff at them. When I was little a day seemed to last forever. When you're little, an hour is a long time.

When you grow up time genuinely seems to go faster... I was told this and it happened. Now 5 years have gone by in a flash and childhood is a memory. Quite intense. Also... knowing that time is an illusion may have caused it to cease for me. I don't genuinely feel it pass anymore. So yes, it most definitely flies by.

Metacomet, i have felt this also, exactly as you say...

i haven't worn a watch for many years - in fact it was something i read in a Terry Pratchett book that trigered that, 'Time is our greatest enemy, and yet we choose to adorne it and bring it into our homes, we hang it from our wrists and from our walls.' Maybe i am paraphrasing but i think that was the general gist.

Also i was involved in a road accident about 18 years ago and i haven't been able to wear a watch since that time. Something inexplainable happened to me during a time when i was clinically dead, and i was moved to experience profound loss. i can't explain that any other way - but beyond that experience time seemed somehow meaningless to me. Not in a fatalistic kind of way, but in a real sense, my comprehension of time, the chronological way we emeasure the passing of events, seemed absolutely without foundation or character.

And sinse then i have never worn a watch. I'm usually late, lol...

From that experience i have come to see that time does not exist, that it is a figment of the matrix, a tool to control and herd us like cattle.

It doesn't seem so long ago when my girls were little and i was walking the dog on New Years day, 1992, and i was thinking about what effects joining the EU would have. It doesn't seem long ago at all. My girls are grown up now and the EU is a thorn in the side of democracy, but 1992 doesn't seem like it was 17 years ago!

i think that 'time' as we understand it is being manipulated, to what end i don't know. If 2012 spells the demise of the powers who want to be, then surely those same powers would be trying to slow time down?

i don't think that they would, so time's apparent acceleration perhaps resounds around a natural occurance? Is it a part of global acceleration / a forced emancipation from our guiding illuminated ones - the natural lords of creation / nature?

lostworld
08-04-2009, 01:11 AM
Also i was involved in a road accident about 18 years ago and i haven't been able to wear a watch since that time. Something inexplainable happened to me during a time when i was clinically dead, and i was moved to experience profound loss. i can't explain that any other way - but beyond that experience time seemed somehow meaningless to me. Not in a fatalistic kind of way, but in a real sense, my comprehension of time, the chronological way we emeasure the passing of events, seemed absolutely without foundation or character.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing... (I hope you're ok now) :)

but 1992 doesn't seem like it was 17 years ago!

Agree totally. 1992 was just like yesterday to me. However, when I was in 1992, 17 years back in time (1975) seemed very long ago...
Again, I was grown in 1992. At least in my early 20's... :rolleyes:
So this, to me, is not about time moving faster when you're grown up etc.

i think that 'time' as we understand it is being manipulated, to what end i don't know. If 2012 spells the demise of the powers who want to be, then surely those same powers would be trying to slow time down?

It's not certain what exactly 2012 stands for. It could be that they gain even more power and get total control. There's some discussion that this is the year for the human microchip etc.
And then "they" def would wanna go there fast, don't you think? :rolleyes:

So yes, I think time is being manipulated OR moving faster by some energy cause.

merlincove
08-04-2009, 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by me
Also i was involved in a road accident about 18 years ago and i haven't been able to wear a watch since that time. Something inexplainable happened to me during a time when i was clinically dead, and i was moved to experience profound loss. i can't explain that any other way - but beyond that experience time seemed somehow meaningless to me. Not in a fatalistic kind of way, but in a real sense, my comprehension of time, the chronological way we emeasure the passing of events, seemed absolutely without foundation or character.


Very interesting. Thanks for sharing... (I hope you're ok now) :)


It's not certain what exactly 2012 stands for. It could be that they gain even more power and get total control. There's some discussion that this is the year for the human microchip etc.
And then "they" def would wanna go there fast, don't you think? :rolleyes:

So yes, I think time is being manipulated OR moving faster by some energy cause.

Am ok ta :cool: i feel a lot better now :rolleyes:

yeah, i just kinda see 2012 as an end to enslavement of a species and the demise of the forces attempting to drive us into chaos, this is my take on it, but yeah, there are a lot of lines on 2012 and the truth is none of us know what the end of the mayan callender holds. Perhaps they'll lift up the rock and find a couple more pages lol

i think that the id thing will be stopped, by what force i don't know, but David talks about a catalyst in his new video

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/21844

from thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60684

and he asks, if we are here for a purpose, then that purpose can not be interfered with beyond the general premise of free will. And the powers who want to be will have their id ideas countered by a catalyst, 'They cant, they can't, they can't...' as David says. Whatever the catalyst, whatever the 'x factor' is, TPTB's plane will not be allowed to oppress the nature of reality.

Some may say that that is blind faith, but i find that a deep core concept.

respect

les_paul_robot
08-04-2009, 01:36 AM
Time is absolutely racing by isn't it? I thought I'd have a few gos on the Playstation after lunch, the next minute all I knew it was midnight:eek:
And when I used to work, it's was only in the recent year or so that it seemed only a few minutes after getting in to your desk it was already lunchtime. And no, that wan't due to me being 3hrs late everyday! (Maybe 1hr hehehe).

lostworld
08-04-2009, 01:47 AM
yeah, i just kinda see 2012 as an end to enslavement of a species and the demise of the forces attempting to drive us into chaos, this is my take on it, but yeah, there are a lot of lines on 2012 and the truth is none of us know what the end of the mayan callender holds. Perhaps they'll lift up the rock and find a couple more pages lol

i think that the id thing will be stopped, by what force i don't know, but David talks about a catalyst in his new video

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/21844

from thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60684

and he asks, if we are here for a purpose, then that purpose can not be interfered with beyond the general premise of free will. And the powers who want to be will have their id ideas countered by a catalyst, 'They cant, they can't, they can't...' as David says. Whatever the catalyst, whatever the 'x factor' is, TPTB's plane will not be allowed to oppress the nature of reality.

Some may say that that is blind faith, but i find that a deep core concept.

respect

Thanks for those links, I will check it out :)

Yes, who knows what will happen... :confused:

I hope you are right about the ID/microchip but... I guess I'm just being cynical cause I have for so long hoped that a "good force" would intervene and put a stop to at least the most evil things that's going on here. And since that hasn't happened and evil people just can go on with their evil ways and even become successfull at it - I'm both sad, frustrated and angry by now. And the only conclusion that I can make, since this seems to be "ok" and "allowed", is that evil runs this world (for now).

I sure hope there will be an end to it though, I can not believe how this have been allowed for so long... :(

Love & light

lostworld
08-04-2009, 01:48 AM
Time is absolutely racing by isn't it? I thought I'd have a few gos on the Playstation after lunch, the next minute all I knew it was midnight:eek:
And when I used to work, it's was only in the recent year or so that it seemed only a few minutes after getting in to your desk it was already lunchtime. And no, that wan't due to me being 3hrs late everyday! (Maybe 1hr hehehe).

Maybe we're all in twilight zone... :rolleyes: :D

merlincove
08-04-2009, 02:01 AM
Thanks for those links, I will check it out :)



I hope you are right about the ID/microchip but... I guess I'm just being cynical cause I have for so long hoped that a "good force" would intervene and put a stop to at least the most evil things that's going on here. And since that hasn't happened and evil people just can go on with their evil ways and even become successfull at it - I'm both sad, frustrated and angry by now. And the only conclusion that I can make, since this seems to be "ok" and "allowed", is that evil runs this world (for now).

I sure hope there will be an end to it though, I can not believe how this have been allowed for so long... :(

Love & light

i think that the 'evil' who seem to have all the aces, only have all those aces because they are allowed to, because in allowing them those aces, it forces us to learn in a certain way.

of course there is a certain sickness that prevails amongst us, beyond the manipulating forces, but that sickness kinda reflects itself from that manipulation, i feel.

to understand who we are and what we are we need the buffer to ruck against. But that ruck is getting harder and harder to meet, their punch is getting harsher and harsher and more people fall foul to their plans of instilling their negativity within our hearts.


i know i'm preaching to the converted....

.... but whether there is an ascension coming, or not, carrying their negativity in our hearts keeps us at their level, which is what they want, if an ascension comes then people carrying negative emotions remain, if no ascension happens, people with negative emotions have given up to the machine - they may hate the machine but they continue to work for it, they remain trapped and enslaved.

Carrying the love vibration counteracts their plans and aids us in carrying light and living in dignity, whch is what tptb don't want. Because living in that vibration, of light and dignity, equates to living outside of their control and living with an open mind.

STARWALKER
08-04-2009, 02:14 AM
Right.
"They" are trying to slow it down in any way they can.
Donīt seem like they are all that effective, from where I am
sitting tho.
Try as they might, the "snowball" that started long ago is
now a formidable juggernaut and can not really be effected
by what really is spit wads and hissyfits mostly.
Sorry NWO-supporters! :p
(not you guys)

For the record, I refuse to be labeled as a "loved up new-
ager passively sitting by doing nothing" by the way. :)
One can do much by simply being oneself, by adding a
different energy to any situation. You donīt think we all
just sit locked in a closet at home with a serene simile
on our faces, do you?!
http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/angel/pray.gif
Not all of the time anyway... ;)

Point is, we are all the same. We are one!
Yes even mighty old me! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/characters/character0229.gif

This night I am not going to sit serenely like a saint, but
like a true spiritual warrior express the other side of life:
Alfa-Omega, both total oneness and total negation at the
same time, and hang upside down in the closet instead.
http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/evilgrin/evilgrin0041.gif
Meaning: Iīll both love you like crazy.
And eat your brain at the same time.
Study my sig a little closer.
Duality is about balance.
Where both will exist, but the "brain eating" part is gone
from the table.

Sorry to hijack the thread luten2012. Rant over.
Phew, almost got my knickers in a twist... :D

lostworld
08-04-2009, 02:18 AM
i think that the 'evil' who seem to have all the aces, only have all those aces because they are allowed to, because in allowing them those aces, it forces us to learn in a certain way.

of course there is a certain sickness that prevails amongst us, beyond the manipulating forces, but that sickness kinda reflects itself from that manipulation, i feel.

to understand who we are and what we are we need the buffer to ruck against. But that ruck is getting harder and harder to meet, their punch is getting harsher and harsher and more people fall foul to their plans of instilling their negativity within our hearts.


i know i'm preaching to the converted....

.... but whether there is an ascension coming, or not, carrying their negativity in our hearts keeps us at their level, which is what they want, if an ascension comes then people carrying negative emotions remain, if no ascension happens, people with negative emotions have given up to the machine - they may hate the machine but they continue to work for it, they remain trapped and enslaved.

Carrying the love vibration counteracts their plans and aids us in carrying light and living in dignity, whch is what tptb don't want. Because living in that vibration, of light and dignity, equates to living outside of their control and living with an open mind.

Hmm... I both agree and disagree with you Merlin.

I agree with trying to live in love etc BUT it's getting really difficult when you constantly are talking to deaf ears and see how always the wrong people have their way. There's just no end to it it seems...

I've been watching the most arrogant, ignorant and shallow people you can possibly find, that is around me - how they are not being tested in life, how they continue to have their way etc. I'm not trying to let it effect me and still do my own thing BUT sometimes enough is enough...

I'm tired of it. That the people that would need "discipline" and life lessons the most to be more humble to life just gets away with everything.
Often they also tend to live the longest... :rolleyes:

When you see that there is a pattern there, that these people + the more harmless sheeple are protected somehow it's very disturbing. Evil of course protects its own.
(And the sheeple should just stay programmed and naive cause they are not a threat to them as us lightwarriors)

I can not think that if some good force was in control, that all this that is happening to for instance the animals would be allowed to happen... :(

I would gladly be in this strange life if we ALL were here to live and learn, on the same terms, not just some of us. That's what I can't deal with.

lostworld
08-04-2009, 02:27 AM
Point is, we are all the same. We are one!


I don't think so. I can't relate to most humans at all!
I think many of us here are starchildren and not from here at all...

I don't share the same energy as those evil arrogant people I'm talking about... they seem to have chosen side (sold their souls) or just given up.

I believe in both good and evil.
Unfortunately, evil seems to run the show for now. I see no other explanation for it. There is no excuse for all the lives that are taken and my concern then are most for the animals that are treated so horribly. :(
There is really no excuse for it...

metacomet
08-04-2009, 02:37 AM
2. As vibratory rate of everything increases, so the
objective experience of the speed of time changes as well.
I have talked with a fair few older folks, like my grand-
mother (just turned 90, :) ), they donīt remember having
periods when they thought like:
"Oh my, time really is speeding up everyday..."
They note that it is the last 10-30 years where this has
become more and more pronounced.
This is due to the ambient and specific and fast changing
frequency around us and in us.

For what it is worth :p
My two cents

Well put, absolutely the case in my opinion as well.

STARWALKER
08-04-2009, 04:54 PM
I don't think so. I can't relate to most humans at all!
I think many of us here are starchildren and not from here at all...

I don't share the same energy as those evil arrogant people I'm talking about... they seem to have chosen side (sold their souls) or just given up.

I believe in both good and evil.
Unfortunately, evil seems to run the show for now. I see no other explanation for it. There is no excuse for all the lives that are taken and my concern then are most for the animals that are treated so horribly. :(
There is really no excuse for it...

OK.
Donīt agree.
Why would it matter where one lived before coming here?
With "we" I mean all within the totality of the
multi verse by the way.
Seems to me, that most who appear "evil" to people like
us, are in fact simply ignorant about the truth of things.
However there are those, particularly high up, that are
well clued in.
But most of the "robots" out there are not. And if we could
get to them, they would understand. But they seem to
live in a virtual "info-vacuum", mostly.
They believe absolutely that there are always the "lack"
of this, that or the other...
Time, money, love...
Patience above all, etc.
Many have been brutalized so often in childhood,
they can no longer feel anything at all.
From there perspective they assume:
"Well, if I feel like this, everybody else must feel the
same..."
"Because I deserve a good spanking. Everybody else also
must deserve it too..."
"We are all sinners anyway."
Classic mistake.
And, as we know, they believe in authority absolutely.
It is difficult to communicate with people like that.
Calling them "evil", solves nothing. It only plays in to
that old game. It only adds more s**t, to the pile.

Not saying I would line up with them if it came down to
that, hell no!
But remember:
United we win, divided we loose.
Ascension (so called) are not for an elite group only!
Either we all go now, in the coming years, or no-
body goes.
Now, or when the planet comes back to this particular
position within Earths precessionary wobbling over the
ages.
Se ya in 26000 years! :eek:

However, I feel that this is it! Really.
We will all go! Soon. ;)

adbasque
08-04-2009, 05:39 PM
the older you get,
the faster time goes...

and without a doubt it is a fact that this hyperactive society
where everything goes superfast, screws with our perception of time.

i'm sure on a remote island or village far far away from here,
life goes by much more slowly.




has time really sped up? maybe, but not necessarily.

If you go and live in the mountains, away from the modern life, civilisation, for 6 months, you'll see that time is not going fast.
It's the life style we're living in.

I have tried it about 4 or 5 years ago, I lived in a mountains I go to civilisation once in two weeks, and I tell you time drags.

Try it and you'll see, cut yourself from the world, no TV, no mobile, No internet, just basics, food, sun, water, long walks and so on.

It is wonderful once in a life time.

According to science the earth has actually slowed down, which will make time go slower, but the society we live in is on the fast lane.
everything is wanted yesterday, no patience, people want to get rich from the cradle, working long hours, no having quality time, work work work, for nothing
by the time you realise, you are too damn old to do any activity to enjoy your life.

It's the quality life that's gone out of the window, we are already slaves

ghostdogg
08-04-2009, 06:16 PM
when you live in time , it doesn't move ... when you live with time , it speeds ! peace :):):)

lostworld
08-04-2009, 06:31 PM
OK.
Donīt agree.
Why would it matter where one lived before coming here?

I think in terms of the starchildren, that there is a reason that so many of us feel different. 90% of the population seems to be sheeple, WHY are we so different? Are we non human, or just immune to the general programming? I don't know. I just know that I can't relate to these humans at all... And it's very frustrating. :(


Seems to me, that most who appear "evil" to people like
us, are in fact simply ignorant about the truth of things.
However there are those, particularly high up, that are
well clued in.
But most of the "robots" out there are not. And if we could
get to them, they would understand. But they seem to
live in a virtual "info-vacuum", mostly.

Yes, definately. Maybe I didn't explain it so well. I feel that there people that are evil/arrogant etc and then there is the sheeple who just don't care, trust authorites etc, but they are not evil, just ignorant, maybe stupid in lack of a better word... :rolleyes: Or programmed.

My point is, this is of course the ideal situation for "them". The sheeple that don't question anything and the evil that somehow take advantage of the evil energy, cause they notice how they can do whatever they want without punishment and they just stretch that further and further...



Many have been brutalized so often in childhood,

Who are you referring to there Starwalker? The "evil" one's or the sheeple? :confused:

Either we all go now, in the coming years, or no-
body goes.
Now, or when the planet comes back to this particular
position within Earths precessionary wobbling over the
ages.
Se ya in 26000 years! :eek:

However, I feel that this is it! Really.
We will all go! Soon. ;)

God, I don't want to... :rolleyes:
Do you mean everybody; the elite, lightwarriors, "evil" and sheeple all in the same place (just like now). Please, that is not a dreamscenario... :(

Starwalker, you've made some good points. I hear you and I agree with a lot.
What bothers me is when people can do whatever they want without "punishment". I want justice and instant kharma and all that... :)
Call me old fashioned... :rolleyes: