Fire the Grid

[holly_ocean]

Anyone doing this on Tuesday?
millions of people meditating/praying/doing whatever does it for them
12.11 (11.11 GMT)
www.firethegrid.org
:)

[them]

Anyone doing this on Tuesday?
millions of people meditating/praying/doing whatever does it for them
12.11 (11.11 GMT)
www.firethegrid.org
:)

I'm not sure, but all that praying & stuff might have made the internet slow down for a bit there..

[mari]

Yep, I am. It'll be 12.11pm where I am. I will have to leave the house & go somewhere where I wont be disturbed for the hour. My family think I'm nuts anyway because I meditate every day for 20 mins or so. What they'll make of me disappearing into the bedroom for an hour, I can only guess.
I'll head for dunes on the coast near me, find a dugout, & tune in.:cool:

[tinmenace]

Anyone doing this on Tuesday?


Yep! :)

[cheeb]

Yep, I am. It'll be 12.11pm where I am. I will have to leave the house & go somewhere where I wont be disturbed for the hour. My family think I'm nuts anyway because I meditate every day for 20 mins or so. What they'll make of me disappearing into the bedroom for an hour, I can only guess.
I'll head for dunes on the coast near me, find a dugout, & tune in.:cool:

Perhaps they think your off to look at some porn,
These dates are rubbish.
nothing happened on 6/6/6
or7/7/7
despite all the fanfare,

the last decent date when anything happened,
was august 11 ,1999
the sola\r /lunar eclipse

even then it rained.


p
o
e PTTP

[mari]

Porn is passe. This is so much more exciting.
I don't do stats or numbers/figures. I go with intuition. When everything else is gone, intuition remains. Its our one gift & cuts through all the bullshit out there.:)

[cheeb]

Yep, I am. It'll be 12.11pm where I am. I will have to leave the house & go somewhere where I wont be disturbed for the hour. My family think I'm nuts anyway because I meditate every day for 20 mins or so. What they'll make of me disappearing into the bedroom for an hour, I can only guess.
I'll head for dunes on the coast near me, find a dugout, & tune in.:cool:

12.11
thats an abstract Number isnt it
poe
PtTp

[john white]

Perhaps they think your off to look at some porn,
These dates are rubbish.
nothing happened on 6/6/6
or7/7/7
despite all the fanfare,

the last decent date when anything happened,
was august 11 ,1999
the sola\r /lunar eclipse

even then it rained.


p
o
e PTTP

Just a thought Cheeb: but are you sure nothing happened just becuase nothing appeared to happen?

Seems like quite a few people round me had some sort of opening to change in their lives stimulated last weekend

I was there for the eclipse in '99:

And Boxing Day 2004 Tsunami, I had a major personal energy shift then!

[holly_ocean]

interesting what they have to say on the thread 'Something's Coming'
Something doesn't feel right about it to me too - it's like i'm supposed to be for it but my deeper feelings don't like it, but as i cannot explain why i don't like to say too much and spoil everyone's fun - and of course i might be wrong - but true intuition never is - but is this true intuition...nuff said lol:):confused:
and it reminds me of these bloomin' concerts

[holly_ocean]

just posted this on my blog:
Is Firing the Grid a good thing?
July 13th, 2007
Maybe it is and i don’t want to spoil if it is. I just have an uneasy feeling which is beyond explanation. I feel that the emotional responses that i am supposed to have to the story are just that - emotional responses i am supposed to have. I often have that reaction to world events. I have felt performance anxiety around my inability to find it as amazing as i sense i am socially expected to be finding it. And which grid are we firing? There are some grids that keep us trapped energetically. Anyway something doesn’t ring true for me but i may be completely wrong. On the day i may just follow my intuition and do what feels right then - but that’s what i do most days so no change there.

[mk72]

It's not just about the numerology - it's about sending love to this planet to counter the damn sorcerers - Illumanati - illusionists. I was very surprised to find out that there is a big gathering where I live - in the middle of the most conservative, narrow minded places in my country. Our time is 1:11. cool. I'm there. Most of them would probably be tree hugging paganist but I don't care it's the intention that feeds the matrix.

[neutron flux]

I certainly won't be wasting my time "firing the grid". That whole site is one emotional manipulation with the sole intention to vector people into a deeper slumber. It promotes entropy rather than any sort of action.

Meditating is hardly a remedy to oust the psychopathic leaders from the apex of rule. Does anybody think the PTB are in anyway worried that a mass of meditating people are "firing the grid"?

I bet they're laughing their heads off. Take that to the bank.

[limelady]

Firing up the grid on one designated day is one thing (do it if it feels right to you), but what this planet REALLY needs more than anything else right now is love sent out into the Matrix EVERY day in regular amounts by each and every one of us.

Are you up to it?

Then lets do it....and KNOW we are on the winning side ;)

[mari]

Firing up the grid on one designated day is one thing (do it if it feels right to you), but what this planet REALLY needs more than anything else right now is love sent out into the Matrix EVERY day in regular amounts by each and every one of us.

Are you up to it?

Then lets do it....and KNOW we are on the winning side ;)

Exactly! The concept doesn't have to 'feel right' IMO, as long as you send LOVE - what possible harm can there be? I had misgivings too, Holly, but I put it down to my 'commentator' - my ego, which likes nothing better than to put a f*** in the whole works. Sure, the site may be 'manipulative', but hey, thats just the wording. Go deep - trust yer gut feeling.............

[john white]

I certainly won't be wasting my time "firing the grid". That whole site is one emotional manipulation with the sole intention to vector people into a deeper slumber. It promotes entropy rather than any sort of action.

Meditating is hardly a remedy to oust the psychopathic leaders from the apex of rule. Does anybody think the PTB are in anyway worried that a mass of meditating people are "firing the grid"?

I bet they're laughing their heads off. Take that to the bank.

Maybe the idea is not to do it to attack "them": but to help each other?

Confident, awake, vibrant members of humanity supporting each other

Whose laughing now? Especially if their not taking out loans from the bank!

[tinmenace]

It's not just about the numerology - it's about sending love to this planet to counter the damn sorcerers - Illumanati - illusionists. I was very surprised to find out that there is a big gathering where I live - in the middle of the most conservative, narrow minded places in my country. Our time is 1:11. cool. I'm there. Most of them would probably be tree hugging paganist but I don't care it's the intention that feeds the matrix.


Precisely! What we do individually is important, but a concentrated energy is hugely powerful, and ultimately the thing that will turn this nightmare around.

This is the whole reason (for me) to help awaken people. We need the consciousness of as many people as possible, because this is not just a battle for ourselves as individuals, this is a battle for the consciousness and souls trapped in 3D humanity.

It reminds me a lot of THIS VIDEO (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3264831611601613379&q=BUFFALO+AND+LION&total=483&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0) (not for the fainthearted, please). The buffalo by itself was not a match for the pride of lion. But, just minutes later, the entire herd of buffalo encircled the lion. The buffalo stood together, they were determined and their intent was clear, they never faltered...

Standing together, they were a much more ominous animal and ultimately won the battle against their most feared enemy and predator.

We can learn from this. This is how it is done. This is what we need to be doing, but we need to get our numbers up first.

I don't want to rant on, but this is why we need to minimize troll activity also. Dealing with them takes from the energy that we need to be spending helping people wake up.

I'm sorry, but my personal opinion is that this is not about allowing "freedom of speech" when clearly they're just trolling. There isn't time to feed these trolls our energy. If there is a way to keep them at bay without us depleting our energy doing it, please let it happen. Time is short and we are behind schedule.

Trolls like Emtec and all his alter-egos, and homies, should be banned outright. A simple warning doesn't help our cause, and surely this is what we're doing here? Or, is allowing trolls "freedom of speech" more important?

Sorry for going off topic, I just want to remind people that collective awakened consciousness is the key to turning this thing around, and we can't do it when agents get the impression that it's their right to disrupt us for no other reason than to be hateful, aggressive, contrary and argumentative.




"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/inflove.jpg

[mandala]

When I first saw this my gut feeling told me it's all good. I mean, what harm can come of projecting love for one hour to help the Earths grid fire up.

Not only that but I had an amazing experience while meditating to one of the free songs off that website that has made me look at life in a whole different way.

But I came across a post by a Mr X on a forum that instantly hit me because of the date he/she says.

Really don't know what to think of this.

http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread290705/pg1

[deca]

:confused:hummanity wins

[deca]

;)power 2 to people

[mk72]

I certainly won't be wasting my time "firing the grid". That whole site is one emotional manipulation with the sole intention to vector people into a deeper slumber. It promotes entropy rather than any sort of action.

Meditating is hardly a remedy to oust the psychopathic leaders from the apex of rule. Does anybody think the PTB are in anyway worried that a mass of meditating people are "firing the grid"?

I bet they're laughing their heads off. Take that to the bank.

Don't you believe thought/feeling create matter? I think it was socrates who tells us in greek the word thought is also the word for matter. It is thought, then emotion, then feeling and then matter. They just had their emotion channeling with their world concert now it's our turn to counter strike:cool:

[mk72]

Firing up the grid on one designated day is one thing (do it if it feels right to you), but what this planet REALLY needs more than anything else right now is love sent out into the Matrix EVERY day in regular amounts by each and every one of us.

Are you up to it?

Then lets do it....and KNOW we are on the winning side ;)

I never pray, I send love and healing to the world and all it's creatures every night before I fall asleep. Maybe it's silly to some but it also fills me up with love energy - I can feel it.

[bigus_dickus]

Firing up the grid on one designated day is one thing (do it if it feels right to you), but what this planet REALLY needs more than anything else right now is love sent out into the Matrix EVERY day in regular amounts by each and every one of us.

Are you up to it?

Then lets do it....and KNOW we are on the winning side ;)

yes, my wonderful gorgeous goddess! i love you (not hitting) :)

[holly_ocean]

Firing up the grid on one designated day is one thing (do it if it feels right to you), but what this planet REALLY needs more than anything else right now is love sent out into the Matrix EVERY day in regular amounts by each and every one of us.

Are you up to it?

Then lets do it....and KNOW we are on the winning side ;)
i'm with this one and do practical stuff too

[neutron flux]

Maybe the idea is not to do it to attack "them": but to help each other?

Confident, awake, vibrant members of humanity supporting each other


Yes, I'm all for that John, but that site seems to have an agenda of its own.


For the past two and a half years light beings have been communicating with me frequently. At first, I was very uncomfortable with this, as it was so foreign to what I believed and how I lived. But as time has gone on, I have grown enormously in my faith in our creator, and my belief that there is much more to life than what we generally physically experience. There are other dimensions that are just as real as ours. And there are forces of good that truly want to help us



Who are these "light beings"? We are just meant to sit back and take their word for everything - no critical thought needed.

Human beings chose many thousands of years ago to disconnect themselves from a collective grid, so that they could have free will. This severance has allowed us to make our own decisions and be independent. But it has also allowed us to make many mistakes which have adversely affected this planet. And it has made our direct communication with The Source more difficult. We are now at a turning point when our disconnection could mean the end of the earth as it now exists.



Are they saying by "re-connecting" to a "collective grid" we lose our free will? Because they're saying that by disconnecting we gained free will. They are also saying it allowed us to make mistakes which have adversely affected the planet. Hello? Have these "light beings" heard of humans without conscience i.e. psychopaths? Apparently not. And now they're saying our "disconnection" (it's all our fault) could mean the end of the planet. Well "the end" can come in many ways -
1. Naturally due to natural disasters such as comets.
2. By psychopaths with their finger on the button.

You have just read about how this earth is being harmed by us. This is the section I happily present as the plan to help remedy the situation in which we find ourselves. This is the plan which will allow us to more fully connect to the earth grid and begin the healing of this planet.

The earth is being harmed by the 6% that rule without conscience, not by our "disconnection". How can we heal the planet with the same lunatics running the asylum?

Together we will reset Mother Earth with a bio-electric "SURGE OF LOVE" from humanity. When we do sit in meditation simultaneously and fire the Grid for one hour, we will unite the globe and connect all the regions of the earth simultaneously. In the process, we will unite our souls in love, peace, harmony and collective cooperation for a better world for our people, today and in the future.


Oh, the "Surge of Love"! Yeah, don't do anything - meditate - I'm sure people like Bush will just disappear or suddenly grow a conscience and we'll all live happy ever after in Narnia, er I mean Earth.

The plan, was given to me by the same light beings that guided me while I was drowning in the lake. They have been with me since that time and have been delivering to me information about our world and how we, with love and unification, can pour our loving intention of peace and healing into this earth. They want to set us on the path for a healthy planet, viable and working now, and for the generations that follow. They also want to direct usthe way to enlightenment and union with the Divine.



Those "light beings" gave us this wonderful plan. They also want to direct us without our asking - seems they forgot about free will, oops! Any being that "wants" to do something for us i.e "save", is serving themselves and is an obvious STS source.

They told me humans are like little lightening rods, channelling God's energy to the planet.

Or batteries feeding the Matrix. You decide.

Because we have separated ourselves from our complete connection to The Source, by not having a fully functioning human grid, God's energy has not been able to easily flow into the Earth.

It's all our fault again for "disconnecting" and God's energy cannot flow properly, said the spider to the fly.

If we choose to come together to rebuild our grid, then the natural flow of energy between us and God, God and the Earth, and from person to person, will be restored. Do you see what a wonderful gift you will give? This energy will live on eternally with the earth and its inhabitants; the splendour of the creator’s intention for us realised in the creation of this new energy field for our planet.


But just don't think about the intra-species predator i.e psychopaths that rule you - the Earth will just be wonderful thanks to you sitting and meditating.

We will feed each others power, strengthening the force of delivery and compounding the energy we send into the core of our home. Each and every one of us is important alone, but together we are a very powerful source of creative energy. Remember we are all a piece of God, and that energy of creation lives in all of us.



And yet meditating isn't very creative in tackling the whole suppression of humanity thing. Where is this energy going?

I could go on but I think it's pretty obvious that people should think critically before jumping in to such things as the literature is loaded with emotional triggers, NLP techniques along with hypnotic commands.

It seems to me that people should be actually DOING something - instead of thinking of the beautiful flowers, go out and enjoy them - go and DO something creative that might wake people up such as writing, make a video, write music, paint - whatever it may be - but sitting meditating seems counter productive to any action that may produce change. Although, meditating on what you can do creatively might be more productive.

Just my two pence and remember: just because something tells you it's a "light being" it doesn't make it so. ;)

[garth]

Are they saying by "re-connecting" to a "collective grid" we lose our free will? Because they're saying that by disconnecting we gained free will. They are also saying it allowed us to make mistakes which have adversely affected the planet. Hello? Have these "light beings" heard of humans without conscience i.e. psychopaths? Apparently not. And now they're saying our "disconnection" (it's all our fault) could mean the end of the planet. Well "the end" can come in many ways -
1. Naturally due to natural disasters such as comets.
2. By psychopaths with their finger on the button.

It's all our fault again for "disconnecting" and God's energy cannot flow properly, said the spider to the fly.

yep, anything that involves guilt (aka emotional blackmail) is arse IMO, same old religious mantra, original sin etc...bollocks

It seems to me that people should be actually DOING something - instead of thinking of the beautiful flowers, go out and enjoy them - go and DO something creative that might wake people up such as writing, make a video, write music, paint - whatever it may be - but sitting meditating seems counter productive to any action that may produce change. Although, meditating on what you can do creatively might be more productive.


we are creators, the world is our canvas, paint what pleases you, and in turn it will please others:D

[holly_ocean]

[QUOTE=neutron flux;75983 remember: just because something tells you it's a "light being" it doesn't make it so. ;)[/QUOTE]
Quite
and just because someone hears something in an unfamiliar state of consciousness it does not mean it's necessarily the rightthing for evermore
I'm still crying out for people to do what feels really right for them (whilst feeling free to exchange ideas of course)
let's come back to life for heaven's sake
is it something about the school years that suffocates people's creativity and playfulness and makes it all such hard work and 'learning lessons' and all that
lol
xxxx

[holly_ocean]

Another thing is...why when 'the problem' is explained on firethegrid.org did these amazing light beings not mention the political and financial manipulations. it focusses on the environmental stuff which is anyway beginning to look more and more at least partly a result of the aforementioned manipulations
and anyway there seemed to be no appreciation of other major issues around human consciousness and the way it is being affected that are not necessarily widely known but i would have thought these light beings would have been aware of and would have had the sense to point out

[holly_ocean]

in fact all the issues decribed in 'the problem' are the officially recognised ones...
someone get me out of here!!!! (situation planet earth not this forum)
i think i got off at the wrong bus stop

[lookfar]

Another thing is...why when 'the problem' is explained on firethegrid.org did these amazing light beings not mention the political and financial manipulations. it focusses on the environmental stuff which is anyway beginning to look more and more at least partly a result of the aforementioned manipulations
and anyway there seemed to be no appreciation of other major issues around human consciousness and the way it is being affected that are not necessarily widely known but i would have thought these light beings would have been aware of and would have had the sense to point out

Hi there

I totally agree. I was really excited about this when I first came across the info (& still love the music from the site too). But as time has passed I've become more suspicious by it, sort of have a niggling feeling in the pit of my stomach that it just isn't right. I know it's all gonna be done with the best intent, but I don't think that matters to these energy sucking loomies :mad:

I thought these 'light beings' would be encouraging us to do this on a regular basis too, not just on a specified date & time (which also has huge symbology to the PTB & can guarantee they'll be harnessing this mass of energy just like they did at Live Earth etc!) Seems suspicious to be told to do something on a specific date & time to me, sort of like being ordered to give over all your energy at once... er no thanks!!

Plus, as you say, they don't mention anything of the huge manipulation that is going on in the world right now... hmmm surely they'd be in a position to enlighten us all on it??!!:rolleyes:

I'll continue sending my love out to the universe as & when I feel the need to do it, not at 11.11 on 17th July 2007!!

[phoenix1]

Anyone doing this on Tuesday?
millions of people meditating/praying/doing whatever does it for them
12.11 (11.11 GMT)
www.firethegrid.org
:)

Yep Deffo for intuitive reasons present in my mind. Nuff said. I aint gonna enter into debate with this. I'm doing it now on feel after much deliberation.

(slightly off topic)
Allready this forum is so full of paranoia and negativity its the antitheses of what its purpose is.

A Grid Ritual is well overdue.(OMG Crucify The Heretic he said the evil word "Ritual" anticipating a tirade from someone no doubt.....dont expect a reply)

People saying give the love energy everyday .. of course.. but focussed group attunement is very potent indeed...for those who understand it.

And in the right intent devastatingly potent.

So for all the James Randis out there.. "Skeptics Are Us " aint for me .

Its my oppinion to have an oppinion... even though it may differ wildly and vastly from yours .


Energy focuss is a direct and live positive injection....

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1694

HereticalRadicalandDifferentPhoenix:):):D:cool::ee k:

[john white]

Maybe the idea is not to do it to attack "them": but to help each other?

Confident, awake, vibrant members of humanity supporting each other

Yes, I'm all for that John, but that site seems to have an agenda of its own

Who cares what someone's opinion on an internet site makes it: what shall WE make it?

[i_am]

Yep Deffo for intuitive reasons present in my mind. Nuff said. I aint gonna enter into debate with this. I'm doing it now on feel after much deliberation.

(slightly off topic)
Allready this forum is so full of paranoia and negativity its the antitheses of what its purpose is.

A Grid Ritual is well overdue.(OMG Crucify The Heretic he said the evil word "Ritual" anticipating a tirade from someone no doubt.....dont expect a reply)

People saying give the love energy everyday .. of course.. but focussed group attunement is very potent indeed...for those who understand it.And in the right intent devastatingly potent.



Exactly! It is good to have these thoughts every day but it is the focussed intent of many at a specific time that is powerful beyond all individual efforts. Remember the forum experiment? We made it rain in Wagga Wagga.

Maybe there is some manipulation of the channel. Who knows! But if the intent of those taking part is for the good of all, how can that be wrong?

Having said that, will I be taking part? I don't know. I will see how I feel at 11:11 17/07/07. :p

[phoenix1]

Energetic and cool. Focus is always prime to achive intent.

Like I am says .. look what happened in Wagga Wagga. (other thread on this topic)

:cool::cool::):)

[phoenix1]

Exactly! It is good to have these thoughts every day but it is the focussed intent of many at a specific time that is powerful beyond all individual efforts. Remember the forum experiment? We made it rain in Wagga Wagga.

But if the intent of those taking part is for the good of all, how can that be wrong?

:p

This part of your post here for me is totally spot on . Also yeah.. go with the feel ... the iside attunement will determine the run for ya .. allways the intuition is right... the little "hardly heard voice these days" once had a voice far far louder than it is today.
Its the voice of choice....no question about it ..:p:p:)

FiredUpPhoenix:cool:

[lookfar]

Energetic and cool. Focus is always prime to achive intent.

Like I am says .. look what happened in Wagga Wagga. (other thread on this topic)

:cool::cool::):)

Hey phoenix honey :)

I totally agree with what you're saying about it being far more powerful with good intent & masses of people taking part, & Wagga Wagga was a prime example of that. What I'm more concerned with here is the blatant symbology in the time & date & how the PTB meticulously map out & plan precisely the best times to harness this energy (for whatever reason)... & that's the bit that doesnt sit right with me.

Each to their own & I'm not knocking what anyone wants to do or take part in... for me personally, I'm not too comfortable with it is all.


PS: Sorry I haven't got my arse around to PMing ya back yet sweetie, will get one back to ya later today... ;)

[phoenix1]

The other thread was stickied in planetary change BTW and I have it on better authourity than any in this forum that this event will be a good one. I cant link to this site I go too... this place would wreck it. So (sorry can post the link to that particular forum)

Reason bieng its a spirituality specialised forum.. and negativity cannot be allowed into that place. Its too much of a haven from this place, and would suffer attack from trolls. I hope ya all understand my position on that .

All the Love

Phoenix;):):cool:

[i_am]

The other thread was stickied in planetary change BTW and I have it on better authourity than any in this forum that this event will be a good one. I cant link to this site I go too... this place would wreck it. So (sorry can post the link to that particular forum)

Reason bieng its a spirituality specialised forum.. and negativity cannot be allowed into that place. Its too much of a haven from this place, and would suffer attack from trolls. I hope ya all understand my position on that .

All the Love

Phoenix;):):cool:

Yeah I have had it from various spiritually focussed organisations and believe me, these people wil be inputting some awesome energies. Some of the most beautiful people I have ever known, full of love and compassion.

I think you can send yourself batty seeing negativity everywhere. Yes I know that symbolism is everywhere but it doesn't always have evil intent. Some people use it unwittingly. They don't even know what the symbols mean.

Maybe it is a harnessing of energy but from my experience 'they' draw on negative vibration, not positive.

Just go with your gut feeling. That is what I am going to do. Hell, that is what I always do so why change now? :)

[neutron flux]

Who cares what someone's opinion on an internet site makes it: what shall WE make it?


It's not that I care of the sites opinion, it's more of a case of thinking with a hammer and giving a more objective analysis of the site that is leading people up the garden path.

what shall WE make it?

I'm all ears John. :)

I have it on better authourity than any in this forum that this event will be a good one. I cant link to this site I go too... this place would wreck it. So (sorry can post the link to that particular forum)


Maybe you should join these "lightbeings" as they seem to think that we should take their word for everything without critical thought as well. Who is this great "authority"? Can you cut and paste a message (you don't have link it) so we can analyse it here?

Reason bieng its a spirituality specialised forum.. and negativity cannot be allowed into that place.

You seem to be under the impression that critical analysis of such material is deemed "negative", which is subjective. So in other words they live in a bubble world and no one must enter to burst that bubble with pesky critical thought which is essential in this area of research.


It's easy to fooled if your critical faculty consist of feelings and nothing more because people and forces out there to decieve you will find you easy pickings as all they have to do is use some emotive language, make you feel oh so speeshul by saying you are helping the Earth etc and throw in a few jargon words like chakra and light being and hey presto - lunch.

Remember we're in a prison and the guards have a vested intrest in keeping things that way. In these intresting times a knowledge explosion is happening but don't think for one moment that there won't be people and forces ready to herd you into another prison - that is why you need your wits about you.

If people want to indulge in this bollocks that is firing the grid then so be it - but if you think that all of a sudden the world going to heal itself and suddenly become some of sort of paradise for all just because you sat there meditating for an hour, then quite frankly you're delusional.

[tinmenace]

There's negative intent everywhere. The problem is that none of us stand up and counter it with our own positive intent. This is the problem. People do nothing and that is why we're in this mess.

Time to stand up and fight back, and the most powerful weapon you have is your consciousness. Use it!

[neutron flux]

There's negative intent everywhere. The problem is that none of us stand up and counter it with our own positive intent. This is the problem. People do nothing and that is why we're in this mess.

Time to stand up and fight back, and the most powerful weapon you have is your consciousness. Use it!


The difference is that the elite don't see what they do as negative for a start and secondly they couple their intent with action. If people are sitting around meditating then there's no action. Knowledge and intent aren't enough - you must apply.

The firing of the grid is sitting around daydreaming you're imposing view of how the world should be without taking into account the other billions of people or the causes of why it is the way it is - just give your energy away to some "lightbeings" and they'll help Earth fix itself.

I think I'll put my energy into more creative pursuits. :)

[mk72]

For all the sceptics on here: consider this if this had a negative agenda why did they not do it bigger and advertise it everywhere - it would have been on Oprah for god's sake. :eek:

[tinmenace]

I think I'll put my energy into more creative pursuits. :)

You have to do what feels right for you. If this doesn't feel right, then it's not for you. ;)

[neutron flux]

For all the sceptics on here: consider this if this had a negative agenda why did they not do it bigger and advertise it everywhere - it would have been on Oprah for god's sake

Well if someone had written a book like "The Secret" then yeah it would be on Oprah.;)

The thing is they have different programs for different people - those that are more in tune with "light beings" have such operations as this - such as those in the UFO crowd had an email circulating a few years ago with the old "Do you wish us to show up" - and how if we wanted them to intervene we just had to "invite" them.

Just because it's not on Oprah today it doesn't mean that somewhere along the line they won't do some large scale event. After all this could be a test run - and when nothing improves or happens even, they'll declare, "Not enough of you took part!" (its all our fault again) and then the real rally for global support might come into play, especially if the author of the site pens a book with messages from the "light beings".

[mk72]

A flow of neutrons is often used to initiate the fission of unstable large nuclei. The extra neutron(s) pushes the nuclide over the edge, causing it to split to form more stable products. This effect is essential in fission reactors and nuclear weapons.;);)

Anyway the secret is no secret - it is no more then positive thinking. Nursery school level thinking, very suitable for Oprah - no suprise there.:)

[tinmenace]

Anyway the secret is no secret - it is no more then positive thinking.

Sums it up...

[neutron flux]

Anyway the secret is no secret - it is no more then positive thinking. Nursery school level thinking, very suitable for Oprah - no suprise there.

And "firing the grid" isn't nursery school thinking?? Just meditate for an hour and the world will right itself! lol :) Just take the word of some "light beings" because they say so - you might call it gullible thinking. :)

How many years have people been praying for world peace? Is there peace? No, it's getting worse day by day. No amount of wishful thinking and giving your energy away to some ubiquitous light beings is gonna change that until we look at the root causes.

[mk72]

Most people never pray for world peace and if they do they do it out of fear - that will never manifest.
It's good to be sceptic, it maintains the balance - as long as you don't do it out of paranoia. But was is your opinion on the what the root of the problem is? Believe me I will be the last one to sit crossed leg on a mountain - I will have to be dragged there kicking and screaming, that's why I believe new-age is just another diversion. But I do believe manifesting through thought. There is a source you can suck infinite love from and channel it to this reality.

[tinmenace]

Most people never pray for world peace and if they do they do it out of fear - that will never manifest.
It's good to be sceptic, it maintains the balance - as long as you don't do it out of paranoia. But was is your opinion on the what the root of the problem is? Believe me I will be the last one to sit crossed leg on a mountain - I will have to be dragged there kicking and screaming, that's why I believe new-age is just another diversion. But I do believe manifesting through thought. There is a source you can suck infinite love from and channel it to this reality.

MK72, I love you :)

[neutron flux]

But was is your opinion on the what the root of the problem is?

Our intra-species predator, the psychopath - people without conscience. Common knowledge of our predator would far more useful. They are the ones starting the wars, putting chemicals in the air, poisoning our food and drink supply and basically turning our countries into open air prisons. Maybe we should start there and also observe our own mechanical actions and reactions i.e work on ourselves (which is real work).

that's why I believe new-age is just another diversion.

Then you should see how this "firing the grid" is part of this distraction.

But I do believe manifesting through thought.

Then think of some contructive ideas and manifest them through action by applying them in the real world. :) Everything starts as thought but we must act, that site doesn't promote any action other than sitting and thinking about it, giving our power away to the "light beings" to do the hard work for us.

There's no free lunch in the universe, if you think there is then you are lunch. ;)

[niftygifter]

interesting what they have to say on the thread 'Something's Coming'
Something doesn't feel right about it to me too - it's like i'm supposed to be for it but my deeper feelings don't like it, but as i cannot explain why i don't like to say too much and spoil everyone's fun - and of course i might be wrong - but true intuition never is - but is this true intuition...nuff said lol:):confused:
and it reminds me of these bloomin' concerts

Anything that generates LOVE on a big scale cant be bad to me;)
It will be interesting to feel the day and time.

Nifty

[john white]

what shall WE make it?

I'm all ears John.


Well, speaking personally it seems like the brain plan is an all-nighter with the bongo drums, some didging, good convo and a nice fire at White Leaved Oak (an especially vibrant local spot)

[neutron flux]

Well, speaking personally it seems like the brain plan is an all-nighter with the bongo drums, some didging, good convo and a nice fire at White Leaved Oak (an especially vibrant local spot)


Sounds good! :) I love a good get together. :) I did enjoy your vid btw, just invest in a radio mic or something you can hook up to the camera to give better sound. :)

[cheeb]

count me in on that one John,
Neutron Flux was the person I looked up to on this forum,
When I first got a computer,
Critical thinking at its very best,
Lovelly, Jubbley.
POE
t
t
P

[neutron flux]

count me in on that one John,
Neutron Flux was the person I looked up to on this forum,
When I first got a computer,
Critical thinking at its very best,
Lovelly, Jubbley.
POE
t
t
P

Cheers mate, I thought I was on my own. :)

[friendsinthesky]

"Fire the Grid"...sounds rather satanic. Could we change the phrase?

[lookfar]

"Fire the Grid"...sounds rather satanic. Could we change the phrase?

How about "harvest the grid"???? Oh no, that's even more satanic, lol!!:eek:

[john white]

How about "harvest the grid"???? Oh no, that's even more satanic, lol!!:eek:

"Reap the Grid": thats the one!

I'm going for Chillax the grid myself, with a warm throbbing Love Vibe

[_invisibleplane_]

a warning for the day of FTG? take it for what its worth

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/07/12/a-group-abduction-is-the-plan-for-fire-the-grid/
A Group Abduction is the Plan for Fire the Grid

There is a plan to abduct people while in the meditative state by shutting down your minds, putting you in a trance, stopping time and literally pulling you out. Don’t take any chances, please. I am begging you all, to simply not participate in any way.

People have been asking if we should just focus on freedom and peace during the Fire the Grid hour. DON’T MEDITATE AT ALL AT THAT TIME! That is my advice now. It doesn’t matter how pure your intentions. You will hear why.

The reptilian aliens (who are the dark side) have been manipulating our minds and lives for eons. They know what we fear and what we love.

I don’t believe they will care what you are meditating on. From what I have heard in reverse, they will simply be standing ready to put you in a trance and haul you out. It’s called abduction.

I would bet that no one will be concerned with shielding or protection. That means you will be wide-open, virtually sitting ducks.

I am not attacking Shelley herself, only the project that the reptilian aliens have conned her into sponsoring.

These sound files are pretty much raw, so they are not the highest quality, but this is an emergency in my opinion. Listen a few times to get used the reverse speaking cadence and pronunciation. Even if you can’t hear them all, I’m sure you’ll get enough to get the gist of this agenda.

This recording was taken from the Coast to Coast radio show with George Noory aired about a week ago. In this first clip Shelley is telling us in forward speech:

And I remembered these beings, they came back to me and said, “Follow the instructions” and I did.

noory-and-yates-sure-remember-an-iron-net-forward.mp3

In reverse she says:

Sure remember the iron net.

noory-and-yates-sure-remember-an-iron-net-reverse.mp3


Forward:

When we do a joint healing, a mass healing like this for the world, you want the collective consciousness…

noory-and-yates-go-with-us-head-down-you-leave-time-forward.mp3

Reverse:

Go with us, head down, you leave time.

noory-and-yates-go-with-us-head-down-you-leave-time.mp3



This is very important to understand that this interdimensional race can literally stop time, which is a false construct here. (Remember missing time?) They will have their minions standing near anyone participating to take them out of time. This sounds to me like they are planning a massive abduction.

Forward:

At this very moment

noory-and-yates-this-a-net-and-on-nerves-attack-forward.mp3

Reverse:

Nerves attack

noory-and-yates-nerves-attack.mp3

Forward:



Understand from these beings. (I apologize, but I seem to have skipped this forward clip)

Reverse:

This need, be in a trance

noory-and-yates-this-need-be-in-a-trance.mp3

Forward:

You want the collective consciousness to be in the same mindset for a period of time, because the Earth is a tremendously large being.

noory-and-yates-amass-then-they-eat-forward.mp3



Reverse:

Amass, then they eat.

noory-and-yates-amass-then-they-eat.mp3

Forward:

Will be the same for absolutely everybody.

noory-and-yates-as-the-day-looms-fire-of-massive-evil-forward.mp3

Reverse:

As the day looms, fire of massive evils.

noory-and-yates-as-the-day-looms-fire-of-massive-evils.mp3

Forward:

It’s not a results type of situation the same way as, when I drove in that lake and drown that day.

noory-and-yates-this-a-death-caught.mp3



Reverse:

They are massing; share with this a death caught. (Even if this is a bit cryptic, it certainly doesn’t sound like anything one would want to find out about).

noory-and-yates-they-are-massing-share-with-this-a-death-caught.mp3







George Noory is speaking about the importance of synchronizing the time for this meditation:

Forward:

Of synchronizing…

noory-and-yates-noory-he-needs-the-honor-hes-slut-forward.mp3

Reverse:

He needs the honor, he’s (a) slut

noory-and-yates-noory-he-needs-the-honor-hes-slut.mp3

For those participating, there is a very good chance that when you come out of it, you won’t be your original self, you will be a clone. You won’t remember a thing, nor will you feel any different, but as bazaar as it sounds, I sincerely doubt that you will be the original you. There is a reason for the switch. I will also go into that in detail soon.

I have a lot of information about the cloning activities of the reptilians. They are genetic geniuses and I will be posting these sound files soon.

Please do not take any chances.

[john white]

Its Proffesor Trelawny from Harry Potter!

Sorry Peggy, you blew it girl: but your great anyway

Fear is a choice, that is all: and we have no need to make it

[ho1ogram]

Have you all read post no.113 at the original thread? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76817&postcount=113

Points out connections to Bohemian Grove (ceremony ongoing at same time as Fire the Grid) and promotion of world government by the light beings (global charity, etc). It also explains why the woman behind fire the grid may see dark forces as beings of light. It is very long but very informative and thorough, explaining how good intentions and loving thoughts are manipulated to strengthen the veil over humanities eyes.

[niftygifter]

Lets get one thing straight here.
evil cannot cope with LOVE.
I know of many psychics who "go after" these reptilians, draconians and NWO bastards and boost them with love. This effectively returns their evil (under universal law) back at them and increases it threefold.
This is how they are neutralized, sometimes killed and it is done very efficiently and within Universal Law. The weapon is LOVE, nothing else.
The bohemian grove ceremony will be to protect themselves against this, nothing more. They are gathering to collect their energies in one place for protection:D

Projecting love on a large scale cannot cause you any harm whatsoever, so I regard the comments of "dont do the grid thing" as suspicious and negative.:cool:

Love is the only thing that is real on this planet, it is what humanity has been deliberately steered away from by divide and conquer tactics, mind programmes, constant warring and religions. That is why these sick people have the power they have and why we have lost our power.:rolleyes:

Be there at Fire the Grid and feel this energy. You will not dissappear or be mind altered. That is bullshit.:D

Nifty

[neutron flux]

I know of many psychics who "go after" these reptilians, draconians and NWO bastards and boost them with love.

So your psychic friends like to violate freewill in another and try to change them with "love" - how controlling.

This effectively returns their evil (under universal law) back at them and increases it threefold.


Wouldn't that make them more "evil"?

This is how they are neutralized, sometimes killed and it is done very efficiently and within Universal Law. The weapon is LOVE, nothing else.


Killed with "love", lol

Projecting love on a large scale cannot cause you any harm whatsoever, so I regard the comments of "dont do the grid thing" as suspicious and negative.

How do you know? I regard people telling me to do the grid thing as suspicious and negative. :cool:


Love is the only thing that is real on this planet, it is what humanity has been deliberately steered away from by divide and conquer tactics, mind programmes, constant warring and religions. That is why these sick people have the power they have and why we have lost our power.

We have not so much been steered from "love", but from knowledge.

Be there at Fire the Grid and feel this energy. You will not dissappear or be mind altered. That is bullshit.

Says you - without any reasoning at all.

[garth]

Be there at Fire the Grid and feel this energy. You will not dissappear or be mind altered. That is bullshit.:D

Nifty

Energy..thats what it's all about, thats what they want and thats what they will get..energy and lots of it.

My gut feel says it's not a worthy endeavor for me, but each to there own.

Use you intuition, it's the only real truth you'll know:)

PS..on ya Hologram & Neutron Flux acting on your feelings/intuition

[niftygifter]

So your psychic friends like to violate freewill in another and try to change them with "love" - how controlling.

I didnt say they were my friends did I?

The evil that is being sent out at the psychics by the Reptilians, Draconians and NWO is reflected back at them, this is not violation as I see it:confused:
They are not being controlled at all, what is given out is simply returned with love.
Look up the seven universal laws.;)



We have not so much been steered from "love", but from knowledge.

Nope - We have more knowledge than ever before, but there is very little in the way of Love left around.

Says you - without any reasoning at all.

Says you without any Love at all;)

Nifty

[niftygifter]

Energy..thats what it's all about, thats what they want and thats what they will get..energy and lots of it.

My gut feel says it's not a worthy endeavor for me, but each to there own.

Use you intuition, it's the only real truth you'll know:)

PS..on ya Hologram & Neutron Flux acting on your feelings/intuition

Dont you think that the energy they are feeding on is completley negative and evil??
We know the planet is being run by them.
How is the news presented every night, how is everything milked to its negative maximum. Look at the newspapers, all negative.
Why is racism and "terrorism" permanantly programmed into our minds?
Fear and hatred are the energy food of evil, that is why it is constantly promoted.
What they dont promote is love, anywhere. Think about this please:rolleyes:
Nowhere is a positive output from any government or media.
They do not and cannot feed on love, that is why there is a constant deliberate attempt to create fear and panic, otherwise they would be promoting it wouldnt they?
Now chill:)

Nifty

[i_am]

When I was reading edit's post, which really sounds believable, I was thinking if the 'dark forces' wanted to stop this infusion of love, how would they go about it? They would put out disinformation, would they not? Telling you that the love energy was to be used by the those wishing to control. They would actually tell you part truth, part lie and create fear.

As I said before and others have stated as well, it is my understanding that they feed on the fear energy. That is why they keep us (the majority) in constant fear.

Having said that I am not sure what I, personally, will do at the time. I reserve the right to go with what I believe is right at the time :D

Anyway, I went to Patti Cota Robles site to see if she had anything to say on the matter. This was on her website. I am posting it to give an alternate view to the negative emails that are doing the rounds.

It is just information, make of it what you will

Patricia Cota-Robles on the Fire The Grid misinformation

I debated about sending this E-mail because many people are not receiving the conflicting E-mails about the Fire the Grid event, and I did not want to confuse people. But I have received hundreds of E-mails from people asking about the conflict, so I thought I would send this E-mail to everyone on our E-mail list and let people share this information with whomever they choose.

This is the response I have sent to the people who have asked for my input...

It is wonderful to connect with you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and the information you received about the Cosmic Opportunity that is being presented to Humanity on July 17, 2007, by the Beings of Light in the Realms of Illumined Truth.

Won't it be wonderful when we can all communicate through open heart and mind telepathy? That way the Truth of our conversations will resonate within the Divinity of our Heart Flames, and we will know that we know that we know. Then we will not be limited by language, semantics or our fear-based beliefs.

Tragically, whenever there is a monumental opportunity for the Light of God to increase on Earth the forces of imbalance redouble their efforts to block the Light. The good news is that Light is infinitely more powerful than any fear-based, fragmented efforts or misinformation those wayward souls may try to conjure up.

I know that in most instances the people who are disseminating this misinformation truly believe what they are saying, and they think they are helping by sending out an alarm. So far, I have received about six different, urgent, alarmist warnings about this event:
One person thinks this activity of Light will remove our free will, fry the grid, blow Humanity's circuits and diminish the power of the Christ Grid.

Another person says ANY attempt to heal the Earth is associated with evil forces. They claim that the demise of the Earth is God's Divine Plan, and the only way people will ascend into Light and harmony is for the Earth to be destroyed.

Another person says the grid is actually a web that has been placed around the Earth by evil ET's, and the intent of the July 17th activity is to imprison all Humanity.
And on and on and on...

I would like to interject a little reason into this matter. Our Free Will is a gift from our Father-Mother God that was given to each of us the moment we were first breathed forth from the Core of Creation. No one has the ability or power to take that away from us except our God Parents.

At the time of our inception, we were also invested with the creative faculties of thought and feeling. The Divine Intent of our Earthly sojourn is to learn to become cocreators with our Father-Mother God, thus manifesting the perfection of Heaven on Earth.

Humanity is now in the process of reversing the adverse effects of our fall from Grace aeons ago. We are healing our self-inflected separation from God and each other. To help us with this process, we are receiving more assistance from the Company of Heaven than ever before in the history of time.

The common-sense Truth about the wondrous opportunity that is being presented to Humanity on July 17, 2007, is that we are not the victims of circumstance, we are the creators of circumstance. No matter what agenda the forces of imbalance may be trying to interject into this activity of Light, they will fail. The Light of God is ALWAYS Victorious, and WE are that Light.

It is the DIVINE INTENTION with which people participate in this hour-long meditation on July 17, 2007, at 11:11 a.m. GMT that will determine the result of this collective activity of Light. We are being asked to infuse this blessed planet and all her Life with the full momentum of our Love and Light. We are also being asked to bless Beloved Mother Earth with the sacred gifts and talents of our I AM Presence, our true God Selves.

There are millions of Love-centered people committed to participating in this glorious event. Every one of them has the Divine Intent of being the most powerful force of Light and Love they are capable of being during that Cosmic Moment. NOTHING will prevent the Immaculate Concept of this facet of God's Divine Plan from being fulfilled.

Just for a moment, feel the elation and the gratitude our Father-Mother God and the Company of Heaven are projecting through your Heart Flame in appreciation for your willingness to be an Instrument of God at this critical time on Planet Earth.

Then affirm with deep feeling...
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
And so it is. Beloved I AM.
Keep shining your magnificent Light!
God Bless You,
Patricia Cota-Robles

[tinmenace]

The best thing to do is follow your intuition on this.

[garth]

Dont you think that the energy they are feeding on is completley negative and evil??
We know the planet is being run by them.
How is the news presented every night, how is everything milked to its negative maximum. Look at the newspapers, all negative.
Why is racism and "terrorism" permanantly programmed into our minds?
Fear and hatred are the energy food of evil, that is why it is constantly promoted.
What they dont promote is love, anywhere. Think about this please:rolleyes:
Nowhere is a positive output from any government or media.
They do not and cannot feed on love, that is why there is a constant deliberate attempt to create fear and panic, otherwise they would be promoting it wouldnt they?
Now chill:)

Nifty

Good points..but IMO fear and negativity is not the "food", energy is. Fear is just the control mechanism. Fear controls humanity extremely well, people react to fear based situations far more explosively & predictively than most other emotional control scenarios. A fear based populace ensures a ongoing energy supply.

Energy is the food, whether it's negative or positive doesn't matter.

Real love is not food, it is not of the matrix, so can't be digested (for want of a better word). But how many people are going to be sending the real deal down the grid?? Real divine source love, the stuff that cures cancer & hacks the matrix.

Follow your intuition, for what is right for you is right

[neutron flux]

The evil that is being sent out at the psychics by the Reptilians, Draconians and NWO is reflected back at them, this is not violation as I see it
They are not being controlled at all, what is given out is simply returned with love.
Look up the seven universal laws.


Well you originally wrote:I know of many psychics who "go after" these reptilians, draconians and NWO bastards and boost them with love.

So the free will violation would be trying to change another into being something they're not. They choose to be like that. This boosting of "love" will do nothing to them just as if someone tried to boost you with negative energy, would that turn you "evil"?



It is wonderful to connect with you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and the information you received about the Cosmic Opportunity that is being presented to Humanity on July 17, 2007, by the Beings of Light in the Realms of Illumined Truth.


"The Beings of Light in the Realms of Illumined Truth" - what the hell is that or rather where the hell is that? I'll think they might hang out with Christ Micheal, sananda and Ashtar Command. ;)

Notice also the sales pitch set up of the "Cosmic Opportunity".

Won't it be wonderful when we can all communicate through open heart and mind telepathy?

Er, will it? Where did that come from? Ah yes, the sales pitch! Or bait.

That way the Truth of our conversations will resonate within the Divinity of our Heart Flames, and we will know that we know that we know. Then we will not be limited by language, semantics or our fear-based beliefs.

Well that's one way to write a sentence containing nothing. "we will know that we know that we know"- eh? We need telepathy for this to be known that we know of what we know or something? Talk about ambiguity!!

Tragically, whenever there is a monumental opportunity for the Light of God to increase on Earth the forces of imbalance redouble their efforts to block the Light.

All these pesky critics are evill!! They're in cahoots with the "forces of imbalance" trying to block the light! Don't think - just do this - do you want the telepathy or what?

The good news is that Light is infinitely more powerful than any fear-based, fragmented efforts or misinformation those wayward souls may try to conjure up.


Then why even bother to write the e-mail in the first place? Also any critic is lumped again with words of "fear based", "misinformation" and "wayward souls" and we're trying to conjure something up to stop the light.

I know that in most instances the people who are disseminating this misinformation truly believe what they are saying, and they think they are helping by sending out an alarm. So far, I have received about six different, urgent, alarmist warnings about this event:


Just like she believes what she is saying - now she couldn't possibly be putting out misinformation she has "light beings". :rolleyes:

One person thinks this activity of Light will remove our free will, fry the grid, blow Humanity's circuits and diminish the power of the Christ Grid.


Christ grid?

I would like to interject a little reason into this matter. Our Free Will is a gift from our Father-Mother God that was given to each of us the moment we were first breathed forth from the Core of Creation. No one has the ability or power to take that away from us except our God Parents.


I would like to interject a little reason too: You can be duped into giving up your free will.
This paragraph is to try to calm people with "relax, nothing can harm you".

At the time of our inception, we were also invested with the creative faculties of thought and feeling. The Divine Intent of our Earthly sojourn is to learn to become cocreators with our Father-Mother God, thus manifesting the perfection of Heaven on Earth.


Notice how this is said like it's some sort of objective truth. The "Divine Intent"? Also, notice how it is linked in the minds of the reader as "If you don't do this you're not manifesting divine intent and you won't have heaven on Earth". Subtle manipulations again.

Humanity is now in the process of reversing the adverse effects of our fall from Grace aeons ago. We are healing our self-inflected separation from God and each other. To help us with this process, we are receiving more assistance from the Company of Heaven than ever before in the history of time.


"Company of Heaven"? Is that trademarked? Notice how we're seen as broken because of our fall from Grace and now we need assistance in order to be fixed.

The common-sense Truth about the wondrous opportunity that is being presented to Humanity on July 17, 2007, is that we are not the victims of circumstance, we are the creators of circumstance. No matter what agenda the forces of imbalance may be trying to interject into this activity of Light, they will fail. The Light of God is ALWAYS Victorious, and WE are that Light.


Aaah, the "common-sense Truth" - if you don't participate you're lacking in common sense (because it's all our fault, we created it) and missing out on the "wonderful opportunity" - the sales pitch comes into play again. (quickly buy today and you'll recieve telepathy absolutely free!)

It is the DIVINE INTENTION with which people participate in this hour-long meditation on July 17, 2007, at 11:11 a.m. GMT that will determine the result of this collective activity of Light.

"It's GOD'S plan - so do it okay or you might regret it as it will determine the result of this collective activity of light".
I thought the "light beings" we're gonna win anyway so why do they need our help? Wait, I thought they were helping us? :confused:

We are being asked to infuse this blessed planet and all her Life with the full momentum of our Love and Light.

Of course the "light beings" can't do this - why? :confused:

We are also being asked to bless Beloved Mother Earth with the sacred gifts and talents of our I AM Presence, our true God Selves.


Whatever that means.

There are millions of Love-centered people committed to participating in this glorious event.

"Millions are doing it - why not you? Are you not love-centered? Are you on the other side of the forces of imbalance?"
Another subtle manipulation.
If millions are commited to this then why write this whole e-mail in response to SIX "alarmist" e-mails?

Every one of them has the Divine Intent of being the most powerful force of Light and Love they are capable of being during that Cosmic Moment. NOTHING will prevent the Immaculate Concept of this facet of God's Divine Plan from being fulfilled.


If NOTHING can go wrong with this "Divine Plan" then why even bother with this e-mail and go on about the "Forces of Imbalance"?

Just for a moment, feel the elation and the gratitude our Father-Mother God and the Company of Heaven are projecting through your Heart Flame in appreciation for your willingness to be an Instrument of God at this critical time on Planet Earth.

Then affirm with deep feeling...
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
I AM the Victory of the Light in all situations!
And so it is. Beloved I AM.


Ah, the closing pitch where you are instructed not to think but to feel, and how you can be so special as you become an instrument of God because they're helpless without us and this is cemented with the instruction of an affirmation (with deep feeling attached) of how special you are if you take this bait.
This of course appeals to your emotional center and overides any critical thought - the media use similar techniques.

In summary a classic sales pitch - manipulative and appealing to your emotions in order to sell you something. :cool:

[tinmenace]

discernment
One entry found for discernment.
Main Entry: dis·cern·ment
Pronunciation: di-'s&rn-m&nt, -'z&rn-
Function: noun

1 : the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure : skill in discerning

2 : an act of discerning

synonyms DISCERNMENT, DISCRIMINATION, PERCEPTION, PENETRATION, INSIGHT, ACUMEN mean a power to see what is not evident to the average mind. DISCERNMENT stresses accuracy (as in reading character or motives or appreciating art) <the discernment to know true friends>. DISCRIMINATION stresses the power to distinguish and select what is true or appropriate or excellent <the discrimination that develops through listening to a lot of great music>. PERCEPTION implies quick and often sympathetic discernment (as of shades of feeling) <a novelist of keen perception into human motives>. PENETRATION implies a searching mind that goes beyond what is obvious or superficial <lacks the penetration to see the scorn beneath their friendly smiles>. INSIGHT suggests depth of discernment coupled with understanding sympathy <a documentary providing insight into the plight of the homeless>. ACUMEN implies characteristic penetration combined with keen practical judgment <a director of reliable box-office acumen>.

Merriam Webster Online (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/discernment)




intuition
One entry found for intuition.
Main Entry: in·tu·i·tion
Pronunciation: "in-tü-'i-sh&n, -tyü-
Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English intuycyon, from Late Latin intuition-, intuitio act of contemplating, from Latin intuEri to look at, contemplate, from in- + tuEri to look at

1 : quick and ready insight
2 a : immediate apprehension or cognition b : knowledge or conviction gained by intuition c : the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference

Merriam Webster Online (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/intuition)




Bottom line is that we are all on different paths. What is right for one person may not feel right for another. What we choose to do is up to us individually and requires no justification or explanation. Anytime we try to force our will or opinion on another, we're performing a very dark act. So, don't do it, and don't allow others to do it to you. It's disruptive.

Time to look inward and work on ourselves...this is how we change reality, because reality is merely a manifestation of what's going inside of us.

[lifeofbrian]

Bottom line is that we are all on different paths. What is right for one person may not feel right for another. What we choose to do is up to us individually and requires no justification or explanation. Anytime we try to force our will or opinion on another, we're performing a very dark act. So, don't do it, and don't allow others to do it to you. It's disruptive.

Time to look inward and work on ourselves...this is how we change reality, because reality is merely a manifestation of what's going inside of us.

Hopefully you only speak for yourself.

[tinmenace]

Hopefully you only speak for yourself.

I'm only sharing my opinion, I'm not forcing it on anyone, and I'm sure not shooting anyone else's down on this matter.

[lifeofbrian]

I'm only sharing my opinion, I'm not forcing it on anyone, and I'm sure not shooting anyone else's down on this matter.

Yes. I meant this bit:

reality is merely a manifestation of what's going inside of us.

People well underway sorting out their shadow self could testify we do not create all of it. Some of it is created by forces outside of us.

IMHO.

[tinmenace]

People well underway sorting out their shadow self could testify we do not create all of it. Some of it is created by forces outside of us.

IMHO.

Right, it's almost like a vicious circle. They create it, we believe it, thereby reinforcing their creation.

[lifeofbrian]

Right, it's almost like a vicious circle. They create it, we believe it, thereby reinforcing their creation.

Depends on the mindset?

If conditioned into believing we are a direct reflection of the world at large we might believe we "created it".

But what came first? Chicken or egg?

Not all people are dominated by their "inherent evil".

Guilt complexes can be dangerous and cul-de-sacs.

I suggest; if it feels/seems insane to you, you did not "create" it.

Other words for "insane" are:

geisteskrank
insano
elnebajos
vansinnig
fou
atamagaokashii
gek
dolzinnig
hullu
gila
meshuge
nebun
dement
aliene


aliene

aliene

[neutron flux]

Another thing about that site: for just one woman it sports high production values and is translated into 14 languages. Where is she getting her funding? It also made me laugh how we mentioned Oprah a few pages back and low and behold "they" only instructed her to get in touch with her! lol :D

Two years ago I received guidance to contact Oprah Winfrey, a well known talk show host in the United States of America. I was told that Ms. Winfrey was the single most influential person amongst the fence sitters, and was also told how to reach her. The instructions were simple: take out a full page ad in the Chicago Tribune, a major newspaper in the US. I was shown what the ad looked like and what to include. The resources needed to place the full page ad were manifested in only 24 hours and we were scheduled for publication on Wednesday May 9, 2007.



:D

[mcmenek1]

Hi,

According to Matthew Ward Fire the Earth grid on the 17th of July will be a positive event for us and the earth:

Matthew Ward Quote:

"Tuesday, July 17th, starting at 11:11 a.m. Greenwich time, an off-planet energy surge will activate the light grid surrounding Earth, and as your collective light mingles with that incoming energy, the unprecedented light intensity not only will “fire the grid” as Earth rotates throughout your day, but it will be anchored within selves and your planet. Each soul participating will spend one hour, starting in the respective time zone, in contemplative BEing. This can be whatever is most comfortable and familiar to you—meditation; prayer; envisioning Earth in golden white light; focusing on peace, harmony and cooperation among all humankind; feeling gratitude for life’s blessings and the natural beauty of your homeland planet; listening to quiet inspirational music; feeling connected with God and all other life throughout the universe; or any combination of those or whatever else fills your heart with light and your mind with peacefulness.

The healing love energy of lighted souls throughout the universe will be with you throughout that time of major importance in the transformation of your world."

Source: http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=78&z=2

Just a thought.......would "The Powers That Be" not be really worried about a positive event like this taking place and do their very best to stop it taking place........the best way for them to stop this event taking place would be to spread disinformation about it to put people off from taking part.......this is a high vibration event.........high vibration and "The Powers That Be" do NOT go together.......do not be put off from taking part in this event by the disinformation being spread about it.......remember love energy is the strongest force in the universe and and will never do anyone any harm........:)

Love
&
Peace

[neutron flux]

Well seeing the Matthew Ward site is disinfo of truth with lies it doesn't surprise me in the least that it would be promoting this "Firing the Grid" nonsense.

Just a thought.......would "The Powers That Be" not be really worried about a positive event like this taking place and do their very best to stop it taking place........the best way for them to stop this event taking place would be to spread disinformation about it to put people off from taking part.......this is a high vibration event.........high vibration and "The Powers That Be" do NOT go together.......do not be put off from taking part in this event by the disinformation being spread about it.......remember love energy is the strongest force in the universe and and will never do anyone any harm........


Well for one I think that the FTG site is disinformation in the first place, but let's just say it was the real deal and by meditating for an hour the world was to turn into some paradise and be some sort of threat to the PTB - they have big funds - not to mention man power to disrupt this - where are these sites that tell you not to fire the grid? It seems very few are actually questioning this. Considering the COINTELPRO operations of past and present, if this was such a massive threat then wouldn't they pull out the big guns and at least attack the main site? Smear campaign the woman? Set up many anti-grid sites?

[mcmenek1]

Well seeing the Matthew Ward site is disinfo of truth with lies it doesn't surprise me in the least that it would be promoting this "Firing the Grid" nonsense.

Hi neutron flux,

Matthew Ward confirms a lot of what David Icke says including the existence reptilians and the "The Powers That Be" being behind world Terrorism........do you have anything to back your statement up........what lies has Matthew Ward told?......apart from as you say "Firing the Grid"



Well for one I think that the FTG site is disinformation in the first place, but let's just say it was the real deal and by meditating for an hour the world was to turn into some paradise and be some sort of threat to the PTB - they have big funds - not to mention man power to disrupt this - where are these sites that tell you not to fire the grid?

That's not how they work that would be too obvious......they attack sites like this to spread disinformation to confuse people.....



It seems very few are actually questioning this.

On the contrary, I’ve noticed a lot of people poo pooing this event lately especially on this forum.......

Love
&
Peace

[john white]

Shelley Yates (Focus for Fire the Grid) on You Tube:

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 1 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 2 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 3 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 4 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 5 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 6 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 7 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 8 - YouTube

You know, re-reading through this thread today, I can't help wondering if we are asking the wrong questions, and whether a lot of it is to do with ego selves excusing themselves from "stepping into the void": otherwise known as making a leap of faith

Is there a True God: or not?

Are we spiritual beings: or not?

Do we believe in a spritual solution: or not?

Do we believe in Planetary transformation: or not?

Are we prepared to let go of Fear and reach out to each other and the creator: or not?

Do we know God: or not?

And if not NOW: then WHEN?

[john white]

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Four Ways to Fire our Earth Grid

I have been travelling and speaking for about two weeks now and I have just realized that I have not shared a valuable piece of information with all those that wish to fire the grid with us. That information contains the ways in which we can actually fire the grid. In the beginning I was only told of the two ways to fire the earth grid. They were to meditate or pray. I have additional information to share with the world about how we all can all participate in our own way. Each human is to participate in his or her own way with acceptance for where each of us lives on our consciousness journey.

I asked the question; “what do the fence sitters do, those that have lived their life without prayer or meditation?” I was given an answer and I will explain it here. First they informed me that it holds a negative vibration to do things out of guilt or shame. That is to say if you use any method to connect with the grid and it comes from old programming of the guilt and shame, the idea that you must do something or something bad will happen to you, then this reason will actually cancel the intention you are making. So please be sure to use the method that resonates with your own truth. If you are new to the notion of manifesting then use any of the four methods but ensure it holds positive intention for you.

The first and second way to fire your personal field and therefore fire your own hexagon on the earth grid is to meditate or pray. These are traditional methods which have been used for eons to connect with Source. The purpose of prayer and meditation is to quiet your busy mind so you may hear from the universe clearly. Ancient scholars have written about the power of prayer since Jesus’ time. Meditation is used by millions of people throughout the world to find the connection to Source. I was told that when we fire the grid we will elevate our truth and connection as if we had been meditating for ten years. It will lift our fields and maintain a high frequency permanently as we move forward toward the changes that are coming. I suggest you use the method that best brings you peace and joy. I also suggest that you incorporate music, as listening to music which holds the tones of love will immediately facilitate lifting your field. The music that holds the tones of love may be many types of music. Mozart and Beethoven both hold these tones. There are many other composers which have these creative tones infused in the tonal energy of the music. I highly suggest using Bradfield’s music as it definitely holds many tones and frequencies, which have assisted me with raising my own vibrational field over these past two years. There is 30 minutes of Bradfield music available on our site.

You will recognize the tones I speak of as the music will leave you vibrant, alive and full of potential. This type of music is everywhere however as with every piece of this project please use only that which resonates within your inner being. The music you seek will be the music that brings you a feeling of being alive and happy. Remember it is not necessarily the sounds that your ears hear but the feelings the music evokes, while you are listening to it and also they make you feel after listening to it. There are many wonderful types of music but I ask you to dig deeply when choosing your music to remember if the lyrics of the music you choose to listen to are full of hatred and anger then the likelihood of this type of music lifting your heart to a love state is rather doubtful. I know in my heart that we all love a variety of music but in this instance please choose the music that will open your heart to joy and leave you feeling wonderful. You can use this music to fire your own field on a daily basis therefore the opportunity to utilize music when we fire the grid will amplify and assist the effect of the earth energy on that day.

The third way to fire the grid is to find your joy and bliss. It may be any joy you can think of, the smile on your child’s face or licking an ice cream cone. Simply find a human experience that brings you joy then give thanks and gratitude for the experience. This process of keeping your heart light and filled with joy, it is the method that I use everyday to practice firing my own grid system and lifting my own vibrational field. That is the energy that lives in and around my physical body. I also add that this is the method I used to beat my depression. It is a powerful tool to overcome negative thoughts. In order to fire the earth grid you need to find that state within your own personal being which resonates that life is wonderful then give thanks for that wonder. Spend the hour doing that which brings your great pleasure, whether that is listening to music or lounging in bed reading to your child. Do the thing that brings you your greatest joy. Spend this creation hour in a happy, blissful place then remember to say thank you to the Energy force that allows us this earthly time and experience. This will work to fire your own personal grid and in turn fire your piece of the earth grid on that day. It is paramount to remember that acceptance of all other ways is key. We must learn to unite ourselves by our similarities and not divide by that which makes us different. A rose by any other name is just as sweet. So no matter where someone’s mindset or ritual lays we all desire the same outcome. To unite the world as one race and to bring peace, prosperity and abundance to all that share this earth with us. The similarities in this event are that we understand there is an Energy Source from whence we all came. We also understand that there are rituals and traditions we individually have that we use to connect to that Source. These similarities are what bind us in this process. We do not spend any of our valuable energy debating which energy name is correct or which tradition is better. We choose to acknowledge each individual ritual as important and then in that moment we are all on the same page working toward the same goal.

It is in the doing that we create the reality in which we live. If you do anything on that day with the intention of making a difference then the activity you choose is not of such great importance. It is the fact that you are consciously choosing to do something that is the great sharing moment. The key event during that hour is that you choose to do something, anything wonderful, find the joy of potential and then have gratitude for the experience. It is the gratitude that will fire the grid and you will consciously place your vote among millions for the direction we wish our world to move towards.

The fourth way to fire your grid is not the best way but an option for those who must use it. Simply write a note to your inner being, no matter what name you give that inner being, it could be soul or God-force or merely my inner self. These Light Beings have acknowledged that they understand our human limitations and therefore they have spoken at great length to make me understand the potential of creation through intention. They have suggested for your guidance and counsel that you write your inner being a letter giving that inner piece of yourself permission to connect with the grid on your behalf on July 17 at 11:11 GMT. On this earthly plane we continue to have free will and therefore we must give our inner being permission to connect on our behalf. State the things that bring you joy and bliss then give thanks for those moments. Clearly state your intention to manifest the world we desire then sign your note to leave your personal energy with your intention. Then go to bed or work or what ever task you must do and be assured that your soul will register your vote by firing your inner system and uniting it will the many, many people who will be joining us on that day. As I said earlier in this paragraph it is not the best way because doing things with consciousness is the best way but it is better than not being able to participate.

I mentioned that the letter would indeed send your vote. That is a way I have described what we are doing. It is indeed a vote of sorts. As we move into the new vibrational time we are defining what kind of world we desire to be our final outcome in 2012. The energy we are transmitting at the time of this great energy transition will define the new time to come. What kind of humanity and earth do we want to present to the universe. Who do we consciously intend to be for the new time? This will be the first time in our human evolution where we will consciously choose our path. So no matter what method you choose to use or who you choose to sit with; the ultimate defining moment for each of us during this process is, are we holding love and optimism in our hearts as this cosmic event facilitates our vibrational lift.

In order to manifest the world we so desire we must live within the energy field of joy and gratitude even when the human journey is difficult. Once we have enough humans in the frequency of love, joy and gratitude then we will begin the exciting journey of rebuilding our earth the way it was intended to be. I have been telling people if we each take care of the “I” then the “we” necessary for the earth changes will certainly follow. The indigos and crystal children are fast approaching the age where they will step forward and create where we leave off. Let’s make sure they have great energy to work with.

Much Love and Light of Grace,

Shelley

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[john white]

You know I'm in one of those awkward places today where I don't seem to quite see things the same as other people but have to try and express myself anyway

On the one hand we seem to have people inspired and lifted by the Fire the Grid message, some of them New Ager’s who embrace anything, some inspired for the first time.

On the other hand we seem to have people asking various questions and finding what appear to be good reasons to be dubious and doubt "where this is coming from" and conclude its part of some manipulation

I'm not satisfied with either position: because it seems to me that’s its not a simple matter of duality (but then, it seems to me that duality is actually the illusion that controls: is this dit or is this dot? but what about ditot?)

We are coming to a crunch, where we have the info we have, we know what we know, and we have to say: am I going to act, or am I not? Am I going to focus on what we have in common to build a shared future, or focus on what we have apart and not act because everyone else in the world is not the same as me?

Let’s put it this way: are "dark forces" going to be out to manipulate and use an event like "fire the grid"

Well that’s an oxymoron isn’t it? Since when have "dark forces" not been ready to use and manipulate anything genuine that could break their spell and weaken their "power"

Is that an excuse to never come together in anything, ever, because we can always find evidence for "them" playing silly buggers?

Isn't that, in itself, another form of control?

I'm not saying what anyone else should say, think or feel, but I've decided that I am me, I am free, and it’s better to have my participation in this event where I can do my part to influence, than not take part and let "the others" influence anyway

And that all the "power" the Dark powers have anyway: the power to influence

Who do we believe in more?

"Them"

Or ourselves

No contest for me, what about you?

Lets make it happen

[phoenix1]

Self Belief everytime John... we are far far far more powerfull than we often give ourselves credit for . Like Lapis says .. do we really believe that they are unendable..;)

[neutron flux]

Matthew Ward confirms a lot of what David Icke says including the existence reptilians and the "The Powers That Be" being behind world Terrorism........do you have anything to back your statement up........what lies has Matthew Ward told?......apart from as you say "Firing the Grid"


Well, for starters the MW material also seemingly confirms far more than David Icke with info that is congruent with other channelled sources, but there is nothing new there and could have easily been gleaned directly from these other sources or simply surfing the web.

Matthew seems to have a pattern where he rings true a current negative situation, and then to claim that it’s not as bad as it was or it is nearly over and we’ll never have to suffer it again, if we’re among those who will "ascend". Then he will come out with quite blatant wishful thinking:

A quick excerpt:
it is safe to say that by election time, today’s presidential candidates will either have the spiritual and moral integrity to wisely and honorably lead or it will be widely known that they are not that kind of individuals and they no longer will be in the race. This is true of all nations, not only the United States.


Ha! You think so Matthew? That couldn't be a porky pie now, could it?

Matthew succintly reflects the belief of the current crop of ET saviorists, which is that humanity is somehow, collectively, inviting friendly aliens to land and "help us." According to Ra, STO beings wouldn't come among us openly, as this would constitute interference with our lessons and violate our free will. He then goes on to refute those who suggest that "sending love and light" violates the reciptient's free will.

S: There’s another email about free will, from someone who read “Light and Love in Action [Illuminations for a New Era] where you said we should send light and love to those whose behavior we do not condone.


This means that this is in fact about violation of free will and nothing else - it's about judging someone's behavior as "unacceptable" and seeking to change it. It's about control. If they want to alter their own behavior, why do they need you to send energy to do it? Unless Matthew is saying that your energy will be there simply as some pool they can tap into and make the altering of behavior easier! But certainly that's not what he's saying because it still means they have to choose to alter the behavior and he never said "help them" he said send the energy whenever you want someone to change their behavior. But then, what if they do not condone *your* behavior, and send love and light to change it? Are they not equally justified and capable to do this if love and light is about changing the behavior of others?

MATTHEW: Dear soul, let us speak about Virginia Tech... Your first thought at seeing the TV newscast was that the shooter was acting out of mind-controlled programming, and I shall tell readers what I told you: No, he was not—

So Cho wasn't mind programmed in any way? I doubt that.

A quick contradiction:
A person with a lighted soul can hold a steady gaze when talking with you; a person with an "ordinary" dark soul or is heavily influenced by darkness keeps glancing around, unable to meet the light in your eyes.


and

The darkest souls are the most cunning, most determined; they seek a lighted person on one-to-one basis and engage in direct and steady eye contact, like a cobra, to mesmerize the person.


So which is it?

There seems to be no critical thought on the part of Suzanne as she blindly accepts information and instruction from Matthew including the ingestion of Monoatomic Gold, for example. He also predicted NESARA to be implimented a few years ago. :rolleyes:

So, as usual, the bottom-line message seems to be, "don't you worry 'bout a thing." Consider this in light of the fact that Matthew is one of the many sources who says that our "space family" is protecting us and will soon land to put everything right for us.

Which is more or less the same message this "Firing of the Grid", except they have the "Light beings".

In this material, it's the same as the others so far: believe that the worst can't and won't happen, that there are saviors working for you, just take it easy and prepare to be showered with abundance any day now, no matter that things appear to be worsening. In other words, do nothing, don't struggle, don't use the power you don't know you have, be sidelined.

That's not how they work that would be too obvious......they attack sites like this to spread disinformation to confuse people.....


Are you implying that people on this forum (including myself) whom question this grid thing are knowingly spreading disinformation as part of some Cointelpo set up?? :confused:

[mk72]

You know I'm in one of those awkward places today where I don't seem to quite see things the same as other people but have to try and express myself anyway

On the one hand we seem to have people inspired and lifted by the Fire the Grid message, some of them New Ager’s who embrace anything, some inspired for the first time.

On the other hand we seem to have people asking various questions and finding what appear to be good reasons to be dubious and doubt "where this is coming from" and conclude its part of some manipulation

I'm not satisfied with either position: because it seems to me that’s its not a simple matter of duality (but then, it seems to me that duality is actually the illusion that controls: is this dit or is this dot? but what about ditot?)

We are coming to a crunch, where we have the info we have, we know what we know, and we have to say: am I going to act, or am I not? Am I going to focus on what we have in common to build a shared future, or focus on what we have apart and not act because everyone else in the world is not the same as me?

Let’s put it this way: are "dark forces" going to be out to manipulate and use an event like "fire the grid"

Well that’s an oxymoron isn’t it? Since when have "dark forces" not been ready to use and manipulate anything genuine that could break their spell and weaken their "power"

Is that an excuse to never come together in anything, ever, because we can always find evidence for "them" playing silly buggers?

Isn't that, in itself, another form of control?

I'm not saying what anyone else should say, think or feel, but I've decided that I am me, I am free, and it’s better to have my participation in this event where I can do my part to influence, than not take part and let "the others" influence anyway

And that all the "power" the Dark powers have anyway: the power to influence

Who do we believe in more?

"Them"

Or ourselves

No contest for me, what about you?

Lets make it happen

Thanks John for reminding us to go back to basics and clear the clutter of this whole issue. :)

[neutron flux]

Shelley Yates (Focus for Fire the Grid) on You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqUAluDvuU4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVhVCsv56kg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqOZUmaECY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzrPCGP60As

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66zQg0v_gn4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_6ajmdt39A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWtJncxNeLI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2sR8DWTD3U



Well, I watched those vids and I had to respond.

First, these "beings" are in fact aliens and more likely lizzies (more on that later). When she is recounting her story of being trapped in the water the voice asks or should I say instructs to "let go", where by she is abducted (free will violation!) and these beings show her how to save her son etc.
This is an obvious STS source as any STO beings wouldn't just show up and save someone - she never asked for any of it.

Secondly, these beings show up whenever they want (like when she's in her car - how considerate!) and fill her with bodily feelings, again a free will violation - and dangerous in a moving car! They also instruct her every step of the way which is controlling and she's even forced through guilt to do this whole thing (we saved your son - you owe us).

Thirdly, she says the catalyst was on the Noory show (that show is known to have a few disinfo characters on there but I digress) when she said that all the enthusiasm etc wasn't her - so "something" was working through her -hint- I bet it wasn't STO.

The beings also state that the spiritual path consists of :
1. Do no harm but apply everything to yourself first(STS i.e put yourself first)
2. everything you do, do it with honesty and integrity. (okay....)
3. Find your human joy (well that's vague)

That's it?! That makes you a spirtual being? :rolleyes:

She says in the bathtub the Dido song came on that says:

"This land is mine but I'll let you rule - I'll let you navigate and command as long as you remember that this land is mine"

Hmmm..........

She talks about the gift of how we should fire our own field and the joys of the pleasure of our flesh and eating etc - hello? That is pure STS - and pretty far from spiritual, as it's there to keep you trapped in the flesh and worship the material, and how we had lost our rituals (who does rituals again? Reptilian brain anyone?)

And then the revelation that sealed it for me that this is total bollocks:

"They asked (instructed more like) me to put this tattoo on my arm - a freak tatto of a SNAKE" She then goes on to say that they said it was a symbol of a commitment - yeah commitment to the lizards!!

Does anyone here actually think for one freakin' moment that these "light beings" are here to help us in any way shape or form when they're asking this woman, sorry commanding this woman to get a snake tattoo?!?!

I stopped watching at that point - you do this thing at your own risk.

[21_12_2012]

hahaa...LMAO

[john white]

So exactly how does one do STO if one is a fucked up mess riddled with neurosis.. where does this idea that STS is not spiritual come from? Its an impostion and judgement in itself!

(I know Laura and Cassiopia etc, and I dont have a problem with that...)

But they are ONLY perpectives:

They are ONLY points of perception: they are not objective, only subjective

STO or STS : Dit or Dot

Duality. Nice and simple

Whereas Oneness is enlightened self interest: we help each other becuase everyone else is also us

Ditot

And that includes the bogeymen reptillians

[neutron flux]

where does this idea that STS is not spiritual come from? Its an impostion and judgement in itself!


I suppose it would first depend on how you defined spiritual in the first place. If your focus is on bodily feelings then (IMO) it wouldn't constitute anything to do with the spirit or soul, thus in that sense it wouldn't be spiritual and would be just aligning yourself more within STS (which we all are at this point), because your actions would primarily be of sensory input to feel good which relates to the concepts of absorption for STS and radiance for STO, so in these terms the 3 points the liz- er, lightbeings metioned were:

1. Do no harm but apply everything to yourself first (put yourself first)
2. everything you do, do it with honesty and integrity.(I can still be selfish but be honest about it)
3. Find your human joy (Being selfish can make you joyful - kind of do thou wilt - if it makes you happy)

See how the devil can be in the details.

STS beings worship the physical universe.

They are ONLY points of perception: they are not objective, only subjective

STO or STS : Dit or Dot


Well you can objectively look at your actions at any point and see they will either be an STS or STO act.

Whereas Oneness is enlightened self interest: we help each other becuase everyone else is also us


Well it depends why you would help someone - because they ask and you do it - or because it makes you feel good or some sort of gain (as the primary motive). Do you do things because of mechanical actions and "programs" which automatically run, also?

Back to the material though and it's so obvious that the beings are STS - so it begs the question: why are they doing it? They obviously won't have our best intrests at heart seeing they've already manipulated and abducted and now they want our energy - so they can heal the planet? Not likely.

The more I think about it, the more sinister it seems; especially with the whole snake tattoo thing, it's so blatant.

[john white]

Well its like I said, we can find infinate reasons to fear and doubt anything proposing we come together from any source

Well you can objectively look at your actions at any point and see they will either be an STS or STO act.

So STO is "good" and "STS" is "Evil"?

Do you really believe that? Is it really "Evil" to do something to help yourself?

Its duality, same as it other was, the seperation of the one into opposing points of perception

But they are only seperations from the balance of all: therefore Matrix Illusions!

Whereas Oneness is enlightened self interest: we help each other becuase everyone else is also us

Well it depends why you would help someone -

I just told you: becuase everyone else is also us. Your not a Sado masocist are you? ;)

because they ask and you do it - or because it makes you feel good or some sort of gain (as the primary motive). Do you do things because of mechanical actions and "programs" which automatically run, also?

Reasons to be good to each other shouldnt even need to be thought about

Back to the material though and it's so obvious that the beings are STS - so it begs the question: why are they doing it? They obviously won't have our best intrests at heart seeing they've already manipulated and abducted and now they want our energy - so they can heal the planet? Not likely.

Well if i get abducted by Aliens tommorow you can say "I told you so!"

The more I think about it, the more sinister it seems; especially with the whole snake tattoo thing, it's so blatant.

Why are we being down on Ouroborous just becuase its got a snake in it? Its a symbol of unity, infinity and re-incarnation

Symbols mean what we invest into them: Fear of snakes is giving power to snakes

[neutron flux]

So STO is "good" and "STS" is "Evil"?

Do you really believe that? Is it really "Evil" to do something to help yourself?



I didn't say anything about "good" or "evil". Depends on your motive. A con man just helps himself through manipulating others.

Reasons to be good to each other shouldnt even need to be thought about

No, but you'll find underlying motives, whether you're conscious of that is another thing.


Well if i get abducted by Aliens tommorow you can say "I told you so!"


I didn't say you were going to be abducted.

Why are we being down on Ouroborous just becuase its got a snake in it? Its a symbol of unity, infinity and re-incarnation

Symbols mean what we invest into them: Fear of snakes is giving power to snakes

Fear of snakes? what are you going on about? The whole tattoo was just the icing on the cake from the whole analysis of this "firing the Grid" bollocks - if you seroiusly think that meditating for an hour is suddenly going to heal the planet and the lightbeings are gonna fix everything then that's just insane. If you can't see the correlation between this material and the myriad of other entropic sources with "space families" and "space brothers" and "Christ Micheals" then I can only suggest you do your homework.

They ALL say the same thing: that there are saviors working for you, just take it easy and prepare to be showered with abundance any day now, no matter that things appear to be worsening. In other words, do nothing (apart from an hours meditation and feel really good, lol)

These "light bings" are "good guys" when they abduct, manipulate, instruct,guilt trip, promote rituals, entropy, focus on pleasures of the flesh, appeal to emotions rather than thinking and don't even bother to educate on the real causes of why the planet is the way it is?

They just instruct: do what we say.

Good luck with that.:rolleyes:

[john white]

if you seroiusly think that meditating for an hour is suddenly going to heal the planet and the lightbeings are gonna fix everything then that's just insane

Well I think this is what you've told yourself it is about in order to not take on the deeper possibilities of what it is:

Humans answering the call of Unity, and recognising that they are not alone, and they can change things

If you've listened to the fire the grid talk, this in fact should be very clear

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 7 - YouTube

Shelley Yates-Fire the Grid-Part 8 - YouTube

parts 7 and 8: you sure you did the whole thing?

Hope its not another case of the Icke book: the real info at the back where only 10% of the readership is arsed to get to!

[john white]

Here's a Q for you Neutron Lux

Do you actually believe there is such a thing as an Earth Energy Grid?

Do you understand the nature of the collective mind?

What do you reckon Icke was doing buggering around doing "energy work" at key points around the globe 15 years ago?

Can you spot a connection?

[i_am]

Thank heavens this event is now hours away.

Everyone (well almost) has made up their mind if they are going to participate or not so these ongoing debates are kinda redundant, methinks :rolleyes:

From my cruising the web and different sites, thousands, perhaps even millions are participating so I guess the ones from this forum are a mere drop in the ocean.

It has all been said ....for and against.

May love be the winner.

[john white]

two points:

1) This body is about to complete 35 Solar Orbits: where as "I" am outside "Time", that doesnt exist ("Time" is merely variations in consciousness within the "now", that is: within the Matrix)

2) Duality is an Illusion of the perceptions of the body: the energy of all perspectives represents seperations (movement) from the One whilst being the One and that is all

[cheeb]

Fire the grid'
It doesn't make sense.
If I was to tell anyone at work , I'm off to fire the grid
They would not have a clue what I am going on about!
However if I was to say "I am off foir a cup of tea"
Message understood!

My advice to anyone firing the grid Tommorow:
Take an hour out beforehand
Go to see your elderly neighbours
See if there is anything you can do for them,
Tidying up the garden,doing a bit of shopping,

Go down to the local River/Canal,
Clear up a bit of rubbish for an hour,

Take a bit of time to see if you can become a prisoner or a hospital visitor,#

Sign up for this activity

See what you can do through positive actions first.
If that ain't good enough

Meditate away
Good luck to you all!

POE

pTtP

[neutron flux]

Here's a Q for you Neutron Lux

Do you actually believe there is such a thing as an Earth Energy Grid?

Do you understand the nature of the collective mind?

What do you reckon Icke was doing buggering around doing "energy work" at key points around the globe 15 years ago?

Can you spot a connection?


I don't think it's a question of whether I believe in an Earth Energy Grid or what Icke was up to in "Truth Vibrations"; at this moment it's about the source material.

To a normal unthinking person on this planet when they hear some authority figure spouting how they're bringing forth peace, eliminating poverty or saving the Earth from Global Warming they will tend to go along with it and believe in the lies. They may vote as an action to bring peace, go to a Live8 concert believing they're helping to vanquish poverty or turn of their lights and recycle their rubbish as a way of saving the Earth.

On the surface it seems so positive and wonderful and action is taking place, but to actually think critically the source of the authority consists of psychopathic liars and manipulators - and to believe in them is to perpetuate more lies and to help descend the planet to doom.

And so it's the same with this Grid thing; on the surface without critical thought it seems so wonderful, oh the light beings aka the authority are taking care of everything, just give your power away and sit around and the world will right itself.

But a critical dissect of the source material shows them to be manipulators who abduct and violate free will in their subjects, not unlike our very own leaders.

Why would anyone trust that? :confused:

[john white]

It seems like we've run around the circle Neuton Flux: I refer you to my earlier posts today

Its not for you and fair enough, thats what Free Will is all about

[mcmenek1]

A quick excerpt:


Originally Posted by Matthew ward it is safe to say that by election time, today’s presidential candidates will either have the spiritual and moral integrity to wisely and honourably lead or it will be widely known that they are not that kind of individuals and they no longer will be in the race. This is true of all nations, not only the United States.


Ha! You think so Matthew? That couldn't be a porky pie now, could it?

Well, as this hasn’t actually happened yet I suppose time will tell if Matthew is right or wrong about this lets wait and see eh.....


Matthew succintly reflects the belief of the current crop of ET saviorists, which is that humanity is somehow, collectively, inviting friendly aliens to land and "help us." According to Ra, STO beings wouldn't come among us openly, as this would constitute interference with our lessons and violate our free will. He then goes on to refute those who suggest that "sending love and light" violates the reciptient's free will.


Originally Posted by Matthew S: There’s another email about free will, from someone who read “Light and Love in Action [Illuminations for a New Era] where you said we should send light and love to those whose behaviour we do not condone.

This means that this is in fact about violation of free will and nothing else - it's about judging someone's behavior as "unacceptable" and seeking to change it. It's about control. If they want to alter their own behavior, why do they need you to send energy to do it? Unless Matthew is saying that your energy will be there simply as some pool they can tap into and make the altering of behavior easier! But certainly that's not what he's saying because it still means they have to choose to alter the behavior and he never said "help them" he said send the energy whenever you want someone to change their behavior. But then, what if they do not condone *your* behavior, and send love and light to change it? Are they not equally justified and capable to do this if love and light is about changing the behavior of others?

Matthew explains here why sending love and light to another does not violate their free will


MATTHEW: No one who sends love and light—which is the same energy expressed differently and the most powerful force in the cosmos—would ever incur “negative karma”! And never could sending energy streamers that are the very essence of Creator be construed as violating one’s free will because exercising free will is making a conscious choice. If the intended recipient did not wish to receive the light, the barrier he or she has against it automatically would reject its entry and consciously the person would never know that light had been sent.








Originally Posted by Matthew MATTHEW: Dear soul, let us speak about Virginia Tech... Your first thought at seeing the TV newscast was that the shooter was acting out of mind-controlled programming, and I shall tell readers what I told you: No, he was not—

So Cho wasn't mind programmed in any way? I doubt that.

To be honest my first thoughts were that Cho was mind controlled to do the shootings........and I was surprised when Matthew said No, he was not......as it has not been determined at this point whether Cho was mind controlled I don’t think it is fair to say Matthew is lying or spreading disinfo about this event........






A quick contradiction:

Originally Posted by Matthew A person with a lighted soul can hold a steady gaze when talking with you; a person with an "ordinary" dark soul or is heavily influenced by darkness keeps glancing around, unable to meet the light in your eyes.

and


Originally Posted by Matthew The darkest souls are the most cunning, most determined; they seek a lighted person on one-to-one basis and engage in direct and steady eye contact, like a cobra, to mesmerize the person.

So which is it?

Matthew is actually talking about two types of dark souls.......an “Ordinary” dark soul and the “Darkest” of dark souls the latter being more cunning and more able to turn a person from the light......


There seems to be no critical thought on the part of Suzanne as she blindly accepts information and instruction from Matthew including the ingestion of Monoatomic Gold, for example.

Well actually some of the information Suzanne has received she has been very uncomfortable with for example the crucifixion and resurrection, as well as the virgin birth, are elements of the story concocted by the few who then ruled church and state......she was very reluctant to pass this information on at first......I suppose this was due to her upbringing


He also predicted NESARA to be implimented a few years ago

Fair enough.......but I don’t think Matthew ever claimed that he was infallible


In this material, it's the same as the others so far: believe that the worst can't and won't happen, that there are saviors working for you, just take it easy and prepare to be showered with abundance any day now, no matter that things appear to be worsening. In other words, do nothing, don't struggle, don't use the power you don't know you have, be sidelined.

Well what you say here is not strictly true......


Originally Posted by Matthew
I am only one of the message-givers who have been offering guidance for spiritual preparedness. It is reassuring to hear the same things from more than one source, so I hope you know of others who also have been urging you to send love to all of Earth because love is the key to all healing; to stay out of fear, regardless of what you may hear or read; to develop discernment in all information, perhaps most especially channelled in these days at hand; and to stop relying on external sources for answers to your deepest soul-searching questions and instead, go within and trust the answers that come from your soul as intuition





Originally Posted by mcmenek1 That's not how they work that would be too obvious......they attack sites like this to spread disinformation to confuse people.....

Are you implying that people on this forum (including myself) whom question this grid thing are knowingly spreading disinformation as part of some Cointelpo set up?

Knowingly spreading disinformation.......... No that’s not what I’m implying.........of course people as yourself have the right to question the grid thing for what ever reason you may have.........although I think its not beyond the realms of possibility that some people may be unknowingly spreading disinformation about this event....

Thanks Neutron Flux for taking the time to answer my question........on the whole I feel the message that Matthew Ward gives is a truthful one......

Love
&
Peace

[john white]

It's obvious all is one! Duality and oneness are dualistic concepts!


No Miles, Oneness is not a dualitic opposite of Duality

Oneness is the true nature of things, duality is the illusion: to be dualistic they must be equal, and duality cannot stand against oneness, for oneness encompasses duality but duality cannot encompass Oneness without returning to Oneness, and thus is shown to be unreal

The perception of duality is entirely a consequence of being in a body locked in awareness to the five sense level: as true sight opens, duality melts out of view, and we start to percieve perfection

Oneness is the perspective of the creator: it is source energy, it has gone beyond vibration, it is infinite harmony: perfect clarity!

[john white]

for all those who know Oneness:

The door has opened: you have "permission" now ;)

[edit]

correlatie tussen lengte v/d armen en de lengte van de benen (http://www.wetenschapsforum.nl/index.php?showtopic=21413) Als je gericht naar een onderzoek gaat zoeken dat voldoet aan jou hypothese, dan ben je bezig met een vorm van 'resultaatvervalsing'. Je kan beter op zoek gaan naar een onderzoek dat hetzelfde onderzoekt zonder onderscheid te maken in de daar behaalde resultaten.

Natuurlijk zou je dit onderzoek ook zelf uit kunnen voeren. Let dan wel op wat je als begin en einde van de armen/benen neemt.

als ik leonardo goed interpreteer zijn de lengtes trouwens gelijk.
http://www.artthrob.co.za/99apr/images/leonardo.jpg
Wouter_Masselink
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8 February 2006, 00:28 Bericht #2 http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Da Vinci Code's new secret code godlikeproductions.com (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=412752&mpage=1&showdate=7/16/07&forum=1)
Mickey Loop
7/16/2007 10:17 PM Da Vinci Code's new secret code
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The Real Code
Within
The Da Vinci Code


While most fans of the runaway hit novel, The Da Vinci Code, are intrigued to follow the main characters as they unravel secret codes surrounding the ancient Holy Grail, few readers realize there are still more codes encrypted within the novel itself. With thousands of experts worldwide dissecting the book, only the scholars at Wacky Times have managed to crack the novel’s code, which is nothing less than the secret to the composition of the universe…

It’s… the musical scale.



Consider the names of the principle characters in The Da Vinci Code:

Leonardo Da Vinci, Renaissance artist

Rémy, the butler

Bezu Fache, captain the French Central Judicial Police

Sophie Neveu, the cryptologist

Robert Langdon, the Harvard professor

Leigh Teabing, the wealthy Grail enthusiast



Now consider the notes from the musical scale: do, re mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do:

Do = Leonardo Da Vinci
Re, Mi = Rémy
Fa = Fache
So = Sophie
La = Langdon
Ti = Teabing
Do = And, of course, everything in the book returns to Leonardo

Our resident literary scholar, Ralph Waldo Loop, calculates that the odds are of this being a coincidence are roughly 1.99 gazillion-trillion to one, or about the same as a literary scholar being able to complete that calculation.
The notes of the musical octave are considered by some students of the cosmos to represent more than musical notes. They’re considered to represent the various frequency of vibrations within our universe, and are therefore the keys to some of life's most deeply-hidden mysteries.

In astrology, for instance, it is widely recognized that each musical note corresponds to an astronomical entity: do (Mars); re (Sun); mi (Mercury); fa (Saturn); sol (Jupiter); la (Venus); and ti (Moon).

So are these names in The Da Vinci Code coincidence? Or do they reveal the subtle playfulness of a novelist who is clearly fascinated by cryptology and matters esoteric?

©2007 by www.wackytimes.com


Anonymous CowardUser ID: 263928
7/16/2007 10:19 PM --- Re: Da Vinci Code's new secret code
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Its amazing how the grid managed to do all these wonderful things with the codes.

http://www.statenvertaling.net/beeld/doper_vinci_grt.jpg
Leonardo da Vinci 1452 – 1519

Johannes de Doper
olieverf op paneel (69 × 57 cm) — ca. 1513/16
Musée du Louvre, Parijs

This page in English (http://www.statenvertaling.net/kunst/grootbeeld/17.html)

[holly_ocean]

Fire the grid'
It doesn't make sense.
If I was to tell anyone at work , I'm off to fire the grid
They would not have a clue what I am going on about!
However if I was to say "I am off foir a cup of tea"
Message understood!

My advice to anyone firing the grid Tommorow:
Take an hour out beforehand
Go to see your elderly neighbours
See if there is anything you can do for them,
Tidying up the garden,doing a bit of shopping,

Go down to the local River/Canal,
Clear up a bit of rubbish for an hour,

Take a bit of time to see if you can become a prisoner or a hospital visitor,#

Sign up for this activity

See what you can do through positive actions first.
If that ain't good enough

Meditate away
Good luck to you all!

POE

pTtP

LOL
Beautiful!!!!
thank you
and to everyones who's firing the grid
and everyone who's not firing the grid...
top of the day to you

:D

[john white]

Fire the Grid meditation film:

Fire The Grid Meditation video - YouTube

Enjoy!

[neutron flux]

Well, as this hasn’t actually happened yet I suppose time will tell if Matthew is right or wrong about this lets wait and see eh.....


Wow! To my reckoning, there isn’t a single candidate who does not, for example, support Israel, and therefore apartheid, endless occupation, home-destruction, extralegal assassination, longstanding violation of UN resolutions, secret nuclear arsenal, etc. And anyone who does......

MATTHEW: No one who sends love and light—which is the same energy expressed differently and the most powerful force in the cosmos—would ever incur “negative karma ! And never could sending energy streamers that are the very essence of Creator be construed as violating one’s free will because exercising free will is making a conscious choice. If the intended recipient did not wish to receive the light, the barrier he or she has against it automatically would reject its entry and consciously the person would never know that light had been sent.


Maybe he's playing with a technicality here - what if there is no "negative karma", just karma - so that part of Matthew's statement could technically be true about not incurring "negative karma" (which may not exist)... oh what, like he's above being a cheap hair-splitter? He is a dead-dude, so all bets are off!
I think another thing too is that how do you know just what you're sending anyway? Just because you say "I'm gonna send love and light to this person" - so what? Love and light is not defined in new age material in any useful way, it's extremely vague, just some big godly energy/force - but what the heck that mean is anyone's guess - is it love? Is it knowledge? Is it light? Is it gravity? Is it energy? What sort of energy? New age does not offer any answers to specify.
And he did say to send "Love and light" to those whose behaviour we do not condone. :rolleyes:


To be honest my first thoughts were that Cho was mind controlled to do the shootings........and I was surprised when Matthew said No, he was not......as it has not been determined at this point whether Cho was mind controlled I don’t think it is fair to say Matthew is lying or spreading disinfo about this event........


It has the hallmarks of greenbaum programming, so I would be *very* surprised for it to be just some disgruntled kid.

Matthew is actually talking about two types of dark souls.......an “Ordinary” dark soul and the “Darkest” of dark souls the latter being more cunning and more able to turn a person from the light......


Well he did also say: A person with a lighted soul can hold a steady gaze when talking with you and then The darkest souls are the most cunning, most determined; they seek a lighted person on one-to-one basis and engage in direct and steady eye contact, like a cobra, to mesmerize the person.

So what if a "lighted soul" is holding a steady gaze, you might interpret that person to be one of the darkest souls because they also hold a steady gaze. :confused:

[lifeofbrian]

In the UK, it's 12.11pm. Californians though, can't participate unless they rise before 4.11am. New Zealanders will need to stay awake till 11.11pm tonight.


Please focus on 'balance' if you just have to participate. Don't go into a dualistic state of mind.

[lifeofbrian]

I'm not taking part.

The woman behind it is mental (possessed).

[lifeofbrian]

It isn't good stuff if people fall for it without thinking for themselves.

(Know what you meant. Cheers mate.)

[mandala]

I've decided not to take part. I don't know, something just doesn't feel right about this. I can't put my finger on it, after watching the youtube videos.

It's a beautiful idea and seems almost to good to be true, so why am I feeling like this 2 minutes before it's about to begin?

[edelweiss pirate]

Peace And Love For All!

[edelweiss pirate]

You have too much darkness in you ...

[lifeofbrian]

You have too much darkness in you Miles...

You give off the vibe of a Mason.

Connected once? Still?

[neutron flux]

Yay! The Liza-, er I mean, Light beings have saved the day!! From now on our leaders and corporate executives will suddenly grow a conscience and stop polluting the Earth and stop spraying the skies with chemtrails and no more nasty chemicals in our food! Yay! No more psychopaths in power! I hear the rain forest is growing back! And the companies there are packing up and going home! They said, "No more profits for us". And all the money the governments spend on war will go to feed and cloth the poor. No more war! Yay for the lightbeings! :rolleyes:

[lifeofbrian]

Yay! The Liza-, er I mean, Light beings have saved the day!!

Exactly. Most people have no clue even the dark has its own 'light' though.

Lizards is correct.

Saved their own arses more like it however.

[ah42]

May I suggest that those of us not taking part focus our intent that this event return a harmless outcome.

[lifeofbrian]

May I suggest that those of us not taking part focus our intent that this event return a harmless outcome.

Aye.

[lifeofbrian]

Not you, Edelweiss Pirate. Funny vibe. "Peace and Love" - masonic indeed. Same with "bro/brother" and "sister". People use it without knowing the roots.

[lifeofbrian]

No, started saying "wonky". Vibe will do on its own though.

[limelady]

May I suggest that those of us not taking part focus our intent that this event return a harmless outcome.



I second that!

Calm down boys....its not all over just yet ;)

LL :)

[lifeofbrian]

True ma'am.

Time for a cup of tea and some distraction for now.

Enjoy yourself wherever you are and don't carry the world on your shoulders.

[neutron flux]

May I suggest that those of us not taking part focus our intent that this event return a harmless outcome.

I don't wish for anybody to come to any harm but if you play in the dirt you're gonna get dirty! People have to be responsible for their actions on this. People have to realise there is no free lunch, to discern information and not let emotive language cloud their thinking. Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. ;)

[ah42]

I don't wish for anybody to come to any harm but if you play in the dirt you're gonna get dirty! People have to be responsible for their actions on this. People have to realise there is no free lunch, to discern information and not let emotive language cloud their thinking. Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. ;)
Well I suppose what happens now is we wait and see how the results of this event pan out, hose the participants down with VERY cold water and hope that something useful will be learned.

[john white]

Nothing like a good freezing cold hose down to let one know one is spirit experiancing matter! Most invigorating!

What I've learned is there is still much more trail blazing to do before enough of us are going to find it within ourselves to believe in our own dreams rather than believe in our own fears: nonetheless, many have made the transition and both recognised and embraced the challenge

But thats OK: If it takes the last beat of my heart and the last breath in my lungs, I shall gladly spend them in the service of the ONE

Hold onto your hats!

We ain't seen nothing yet!

[john white]

I forgive you not understanding

The road is long

[john white]

Miles, you seem to see this event as some kind of magical thinking or promise that something "special effectsie" and dramatic was due to happen

This is a complete illusion on your part: you will not find any such promise on any of the "Fire the Grid material": go check!

Energy work rarely shows immediately on the five sense level, but instead has a gradual impact on the collective mind. One may doubt this, but the evidence is actually in front of us, with the collection of people on this forum who have gradually awakened over the last few years: consider what it was like some years ago for those first blazing the trail! (like Icke): but they did it anyway

It is an opportunity to resonate with others and afirm purpose on the road ahead

This is, sadly, what you have prevented yourself from understand due, it appears to me, to being mesmerised by contemplating this only on the shallow surface area of your infinity mankind knows as "mind"

Regretably, the eggshell is skilled at defending itself

[cheeb]

Nothing like a good freezing cold hose down to let one know one is spirit experiancing matter! Most invigorating!

What I've learned is there is still much more trail blazing to do before enough of us are going to find it within ourselves to believe in our own dreams rather than believe in our own fears: nonetheless, many have made the transition and both recognised and embraced the challenge

But thats OK: If it takes the last beat of my heart and the last breath in my lungs, I shall gladly spend them in the service of the ONE

Hold onto your hats!

We ain't seen nothing yet!

Hiya John,
Where were you at this time,
I was outside, weeding trees
It was pissing down.

I didn't know exactly what time it was,
because I don't carry a timepeice
But it must have been11.11 at some point.

Sometimes it's horrible to get soaked through,
Other times it's not so bad and can be life affirming.

I reflected on things ,a little bit,
And come to the conclusion, things ain't so bad,
It's only rain,you're a bit wet,
you'll be dry later(Hope this reflecting buisness wasn't lopsided)

The same thing happened on the last 11.11, at the eclipse.
It was pissing down aswell.
I was so busy looking around at everybodys reactions to the rain,
I forgot to look up and missed the totality completely DOH!!!!
Oh well, nevermind;

It does make you feel glad to be alive though!
Loveley
POe
ptTp

[john white]

I was really lucky Cheeb, it pissed it all morning until 10:30 and then there was a break in the weather over Malvern and I was in the Sun!

I went up on the hills to a choice spot and tuned in, i also shot some footage, but what with the atmospherics (lightening strikes in the valley!) and being on an earth energy node most of it was unusable, though some amazing shots of rolling storm clouds!

I did do a small snippett at St Anns Well afterwards that i'm considering editing and slapping up on youtube just for the joy of it

[cheeb]

You must have felt like YHVH himself,
sending his thunder clouds,
onto us unbeleivers,
in the Severn valley,
LOL


poE
Pttp

[ah42]

Hiya John,
Where were you at this time,
I was outside, weeding trees
It was pissing down.

I didn't know exactly what time it was,
because I don't carry a timepeice
But it must have been11.11 at some point.

Sometimes it's horrible to get soaked through,
Other times it's not so bad and can be life affirming.

I reflected on things ,a little bit,
And come to the conclusion, things ain't so bad,
It's only rain,you're a bit wet,
you'll be dry later(Hope this reflecting buisness wasn't lopsided)

The same thing happened on the last 11.11, at the eclipse.
It was pissing down aswell.
I was so busy looking around at everybodys reactions to the rain,
I forgot to look up and missed the totality completely DOH!!!!
Oh well, nevermind;

It does make you feel glad to be alive though!
Loveley
POe
ptTp
pissing myself cheeb!!!

comic genius:D:D

[john white]

LOL!

Well I shot some footage yesterday, recording my thoughts on Fire the grid day and doing some choice readings from various sources in the spirit of the event

Unfortunately, whether becuase of the lightening storm in the severn valley or interference from the earth energy node on which I was stood, much of the footage is unusable, its full of energy spikes breaking up the picture and sound

I rescued this snipett, which isn't much, its me doing a bit of reading from "I am me I am Free", but its my first self edited bit of footage and its got a message in there for those who wish to see it: with added lightening strike! So I present it here for what it is:

Fire the Grid: thought for the day - YouTube

[john white]

Thanks for checking that out :)

[neutron flux]

Some have said about there being nothing wrong sending love to the Earth, and their right, there's nothing wrong with that - it's the changing the Earth - to how you see fit. I mean, the Earth is a living organism too so it will also have a destiny, so trying to change that is a violation of free will, just like trying to change another when they don't ask for it.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw in some data for some to ponder from the C's transcripts on love:

A: Wanting to help others can often be STS if the reason, at deep levels is fear of loss.

Q: (L) Loss of what?

A: Respect, love, others opinions, and a big one self image.


Q: (L) Okay, now Eddie says:

'Laura brought up several comments about Love that
confused me. I do not understand how could giving love
when not being asked could harm instead of improve.' Can
you remark on this?

A: "Giving" love is not giving, in such a case.

Q: So, if you give love when you have not been asked, you are
NOT giving?

A: You are taking, as usual.

Q: When you say you are 'taking,' what are you taking?

A: Energy, a la STS.

Q: How does it come that you are taking energy from someone
by giving them love when not asked?

A: Because an STS vehicle does not learn to be an STO
candidate by determining the needs of another.

Q: I don't understand how that means you are taking energy?

A: Because the act is then one of self-gratification. If one
"gives" where there is no request, therefore no need, this
is a free will violation! And besides, what other
motivation could there possibly be in such a scenario?!?
Think carefully and objectively about this.

Q: My thought would be that, in such a scenario, that if one
gives love to someone who has not asked or requested, that
it seems to be a desire to change the other, i.e. a desire
to control.

A: You got it!!

Q: Now he says further:

'Yes, everything is lessons and if a
person has chosen a specific path they should be allowed
to go and learn their way. But, let's say this is
happening to someone you really love. And let's say that
the person may be in a period of his life that his/her
thoughts are probably taking her/him to commit, let's say,
a murder. Don't you think that if you send this person
love, even unconsciously, that it may provide the
necessary energy (influence) to stop that murder?'
Comment please.

A: No, no, no!!! In fact, if anything, such an energy
transference even could enhance the effect.

Q: In what way?

A: Imbalanced waves could be drawn upon by the receiver.

Q: I think that this word he used is a clue: 'Don't you think
that if you send the person love, it could provide the
person the necessary energy' and in parentheses he has the
word 'influence' which implies control of the other
person's behavior, to 'stop that murder.' So, it seems
that there is a desire to control the actions of another
person.

A: Yes.

Q: But, his intent is entirely benevolent because he wants to
stop a murder which is the saving of a life, as well as
prevent the loved one from going to prison. So, it SEEMS
to be benevolent in intent. Does this not make a
difference?

A: Have we forgotten about Karma?

Q: Well, both Sylvia and I mentioned the fact that one cannot
always judge these situations because we don't know. We
cannot know. For all we know the potential murder victim
is an Adolf Hitler type or the potential parent of one, or
something like that, and then the murder would save many
lives with the sacrifice of two lives, or that this murder
is supposed to happen because of some karmic interaction
that is essential between the murderer and victim, and
that we simply cannot KNOW these things and judge them.

A: Yes.

Q: Any other comment about that?

A: No.

Q: He says: 'I believe that if we do not send love energy to
the world that the egocentric STS energy will be
dominating.

A: Why would one choose to send this? What is the
motivation?

Q: To change it to your idea of what it is supposed to be.
To control it to follow your judgment of how things ought
to be.

A: Exactly. The students are not expected to be the
architects of the school.

Q: So, when you seek to impose or exert influence of any
kind, you are, in effect, trying to play God and taking it
upon yourself to decide that there is something wrong with
the universe that it is up to you to fix, which amounts to
judgment.

A: Yes, you see, one can advise, that is okay, but do not
attempt to alter the lesson.

Q: He also says: 'I believe that an enlightened being is
emanating love where ever that person is, and this is even
without being asked. It just happens because that is what
they are - love.' Comment, please.

A: An enlightened being is not love. And a refrigerator is
not a highway.

Q: What?! Talk about your mixed metaphors! I don't get that
one!

A: Why not?

Q: They are completely unrelated!

A: Exactly!!!

Q: What IS an enlightened being?

A: An enlightened being.

Q: What is the criteria for being an enlightened being?

A: Being enlightened!

Q: When one is enlightened, what is the profile?

A: This is going nowhere because you are doing the proverbial
round hole, square peg routine.

Q: What I am trying to get to is an understanding of an
enlightened being. Eddie and a LOT of other people have
the idea that an enlightened being IS LOVE, and that is
what they radiate, and that this is a result of being
enlightened.

A: No, no, no, no, no. "Enlightened" does not mean good.
Just smart.

Q: Okay, so there are STS and STO enlightened beings?

A: Yes, we believe the overall ratio is 50/50.

Q: Okay, what is the profile of an enlightened STO being?

A: An intelligent being who only gives.

Q: Well, since we have dealt with the idea of not giving love
to those who don't ask, what do they give and to whom do
they give it?

A: All; to those who ask.

Q: He says: 'As you can see, I believe in the power of love.
I am open to try to understand that which I have not yet
been able to. Perhaps that is why I am here with you
guys. So, could we talk more about this subject? Could
provide more of what the C's have said about Love?' I
collected the excerpts from the text about love and how
you had said that Knowledge was love and light was
knowledge and all that. Anything further you can add to
that?

A: No, because the receiver to this does not wish to receive.

Q: Okay. Sylvia responded:

'Eddie thank you for your
pointing out the paradox of the concept of the expression
of love between the C's and that as some of us think we
know, but KNOW what we experience. I feel that it may be
very difficult for the C's to deliver adequate
understanding into our 3rd density or dimension. [...] My
view of the paradox is thus: If one emanates love as a
natural course to the Universe it is not consciously
limited or directed - at least I, for one, cannot do this;
that simply is the way some of us are a lot of the 'time.'
To eliminate groups or individuals, is beyond my
comprehension to constantly define since a lot of this is
done unconsciously anyway; and it certainly would
compromise my experience of sending love. Unless one is
Bodhisattva, love is probably only directed with greater
intensity when focused toward an individual; how is one to
know whether the intended recipient is not ready/able to
receive?' [...] And 'receive,' I think is a clue: the
intended recipient can either remain oblivious or ward off
the love energy - free agency.

A: Yes.

Q: If it IS 'love energy' is it subsequently corrupted by
STS?

A: Maybe.

Q: She then says: 'If one directs love very specifically
toward an individual it can be directed freely,
judgementally, subjectively..... One challenge is to
direct love freely...'

A: No.

Q: 'Giving love to the Universe may be the best way
generally, but if one does focus toward a loved one and it
CAN be effective, could the general Universe be JUST as
effective?'

A: The universe is about balance. Nuff said!

Q: Next, in regard to this not giving of love when not asked,
she says: 'That does not mesh with networking to spread
KNOWLEDGE among those who care and love. THAT is
directed...'

A: What?

Q: Well, I DID point out that the only reason we have even
gotten anything is because we asked for a LONG time,
repeatedly and sincerely.

A: The bottom line is this: You are occupying 3rd density.
You are by nature, STS. You can be an STO candidate, but
you are NOT STO until you are on 4th density. You will
NEVER grasp the meaning of these attempted
conceptualizations until you are at 4th and above.


Q: (L) And there are people for whom STS is simply their
choice. It is their path.

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, it is a judgment and a disservice to try to
convert someone to your path, even if you perceive the end
result of the path they are on, that it leads to
dissolution? It is still their path?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, if you send 'buckets of love and light' to such a
one, and that is their path, you are violating their free
will?

A: You might as well send "buckets" of vomit as that is how
they will react.

Q: (MM) Why send anything? Just be neutral?

A: Judgment is STS.


Q: (L) What is it that limits our awareness?

A: Your environment. And it is the environment that you have
chosen. By your level of progress. And that is what
limits everything. As you rise to higher levels of
density, limitations are removed.

Q: (L) What creates this environment of limitation?

A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of
learning.

Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place?

A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you
and us and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice
versa. And so is everything else.

Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion?

A: Basically, yes.

Q: (L) So, essentially...

A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a
moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school
is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists.
There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the
true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to
see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of
density that it is possible to experience, all the
dimensions that it is possible to experience, all
awareness. When an individual understands that statement
to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes
illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And,
for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that
individual knows absolutely everything that there is to
know.

Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is
knowledge and not love?

A: That is correct.

Q: (L) Is it also correct that emotion can be used to
mislead, that is emotions that are twisted and generated
strictly from the flesh or false programming?

A: Emotion that limits is an impediment to progress. Emotion
is also necessary to make progress in 3rd density. It is
natural. When you begin to separate limiting emotions
based on assumptions from emotions that open one to
unlimited possibilities, that means you are preparing for
the next density.

Q: (L) What about Love?

A: What about it?

Q: (L) There are many teachings that are promulgated that
Love is the key, the answer. They say that illumination
and knowledge and what-not can all be achieved through
love.
A: The problem is not the term "love," the problem
is the interpretation of the term. Those on third density
have a tendency to confuse the issue horribly. After all,
they confuse many things as love. When the actual
definition of love as you know it is not correct either.
It is not necessarily a feeling that one has that can also
be interpreted as an emotion, but rather, as we have told
you before, the essence of light which is knowledge is
love, and this has been corrupted when it is said that
love leads to illumination. Love is Light is Knowledge.
Love makes no sense when common definitions are used as
they are in your environment. To love you must know. And
to know is to have light. And to have light is to love.
And to have knowledge is to love.

[neutron flux]

I have the transcripts with a built in search engine.

I've avoided cassiopea.com due to the unfortunate possession of Laura and the STS forces efforts to discredit the message, even though it's one hell of a message...

I wouldn't believe everything you hear, especially when it comes from the likes of Coleen or Vinnie Bridges (a known black magician) ;)

I've been reading from that site for years and I don't see anything that warrants that kind of response - but seeing you haven't read anything from the site then you're hardly being objective. It's up to you though. :)

[cleopatraxxx]

Just a thought Cheeb: but are you sure nothing happened just becuase nothing appeared to happen?

Seems like quite a few people round me had some sort of opening to change in their lives stimulated last weekend

I was there for the eclipse in '99:

And Boxing Day 2004 Tsunami, I had a major personal energy shift then!
by the way, JohnWhite, on the 2004 Tsunami day i had a very energetically charged sensations while sitting on the waterfalls huge stones, feeling the water running through my submerged feet into it streaming. Amazing was the feeling. IINNER Peace was so huge!, as if the universe itself was looking at me those hours, transmitting to me its silence and at the same music. was very strange, but sooooooooo peacefull. i was connected consciously and feeling presences of the universe...dont know how to better explain it...
only to know in the end of the day when i arrived home that a tsunami had hit and killed so many... was very shocking. was a total contrast.

so YES! all is relative
and to be or not to be in INNER Peace is a state which we all can choose. better when we do it consciously and practice it in the NOW...

CLeoXXX

[raginggran]

Sending out your love daily does the trick.

Shelley has another day coming and a book (or three)..time will tell where
this site is coming from.

Dear Friends,

We are on the brink of a new mindset, a world energy movement that will propel us into a bright and boundless future. Now is the time when we will consciously choose the direction we wish to take as we move into this monumental event and close the first chapter of Fire the Grid. I say the first chapter as I have new information which has been coming since March 2007, a second project in which we can apply our freshly open hearts and minds to rebuilding the earth in the manner which is befitting of the Divine race of humans which we truly are.

This second phase of Fire the Grid is called Project Cause. The details are still assembling. The same way I received the information about Fire the Grid I am receiving the instructions of how to make the second part of this incredible event realistic and achievable.

We have been working on the Fire the Grid project for over two years now and we have followed the Light Beings' instructions and done all we have done for free. We have millions of people in over 90 countries participating in our world meditation to lift our personal vibrational fields and assist our earth, our home to enter a state of healing. This was and is truly a project of Love. The vision to see the world come together in love for one hour is about to happen. This is wondrous in itself. The mere fact that millions of people will unite for this one hour has made Fire the Grid astounding even before we even perform our intent. Imagine what we can do when many more millions of us come together to make the second part of Fire the Grid our truth. If three people and no budget can make this incredible world event happen, I see Project Cause raising the bar even higher. We will become NEW WORLD PARTICIPANTS as we boldly declare that we desire a new and better world in which to live and raise our children.

I want to take this opportunity to announce to everyone that there is indeed more to come. I am working diligently to make Project Cause a reality and share the exciting news with everyone. A bit of time is required to make this new project take form so I can present it in a manner that shows us all how possible it is to create that which we so desire: a world of abundance for all, sharing and caring for each other and for our world resources, a world full of peace and prosperity for every living being on the planet. Fire the Grid is about raising our vibration and keeping us in the frequency of Love. With Project Cause we will now take that loving vibration and apply it tangibly to the world to make all our visions of the earth come true.

I will use the Fire the Grid site as a launching point to introduce Project Cause in a few short weeks, by early September if all goes according to plan. I am also in the process of writing a book about my life experience and I will post information about this as it comes on my own personal website which is being built over the summer. I have several books coming that may be of interest to people and am eager to share them with each of you as they are born.

I invite you to check back at this site towards the end of the summer so you can discover what Project Cause is all about and how you and your family can get involved. There are many diverse and exciting ideas we will be able to apply to make our world evolve into what it was meant to be. I am excited knowing that there is still more to come and I look forward to sharing all I have.

I would also like to share my personal joy at seeing so many wonderful people sharing their love with the world. When I started Fire the Grid I remember saying “I just don’t know how all this will work, but here goes...!” The same wonder resides in my thoughts about Project Cause but the sharing I have experienced from the entire world has renewed my faith that together we are a powerful entity, as ONE we can do and create anything. Thank you all so much for coming together and making this vision our reality.

I also encourage you to "register" your voice after you Fire the Grid by sharing both your greatest joy and your own experience on July 17 at 11:11 GMT. You can do this as an individual or as a group, and will be the beginning stages of a new worldwide online community of like-minded, high vibratory individuals. The coming days and months will be exciting times indeed and this community will blaze the trail for our children's future.

I leave you with a quote from Edgar Cayce regarding rebuilding the world, he said, “Peace in the world must begin first within the heart and purpose and mind of the individual…[for] as individuals change themselves and their interactions with one another, eventually the world cannot help but follow.” I say that Fire the Grid is a show of hands of how many like-minded individuals really do desire this change. Together, as a critical mass, we are about to birth a brand new humanity.

My deepest respect and Love to all,

Shelley Yates

[john white]

by the way, JohnWhite, on the 2004 Tsunami day i had a very energetically charged sensations while sitting on the waterfalls huge stones, feeling the water running through my submerged feet into it streaming. Amazing was the feeling. IINNER Peace was so huge!, as if the universe itself was looking at me those hours, transmitting to me its silence and at the same music. was very strange, but sooooooooo peacefull. i was connected consciously and feeling presences of the universe...dont know how to better explain it...
only to know in the end of the day when i arrived home that a tsunami had hit and killed so many... was very shocking. was a total contrast.

so YES! all is relative
and to be or not to be in INNER Peace is a state which we all can choose. better when we do it consciously and practice it in the NOW...

CLeoXXX

Thankyou for your thoughts Cleo

Its interesting to note that even mainstream scientific journals ran several major articles reporting the minimal casualities amongst the animal kingdom becuase animals "mysteriously" knew danger was coming when humans did not: though when we consider vibrational attunment (which MSS currently cannot), perhaps less mysterious

And it is a challenge for anyone to reconcile such contrast within themselves while still maintaining awareness of the loving force we know as "God": epiphany can come at the strangest of times

[neutron flux]

Not long after I published research findings on the people behind GodlikeProductions Forum, we received an email warning, and two "personal contacts" of a threatening nature. Let us just say that when you begin to find connections between such popular websites and drug and pedophile rings, you are cruising into dangerous international trafficking waters and discretion may very well be the better part of valor. I removed the article from our website, though I do still send it to researchers who ask for it privately. I should note, while on the subject, that this is not uncommon: to find such connections; after all, that's one of the ways that secret agencies make their money - drugs and human trafficking, including children - and have the means to control government officials: blackmail. It's a pretty handy set-up: provide the drugs and the sex, get photos and movies or recordings, and voila! Instant control of just about anybody!

So, while I can't take the risk of telling exactly who is who here, just let me give a general warning: drugs and pedophilia - and even arms trafficking - are connected to a lot of people who you would never, ever suspect! Imagine! A popular New Age teacher giving seminars on such things as how to create your higher astral body and meet your angel guides (for example) who also runs a cover operation for shipping arms to CIA sponsored guerilla groups and ALSO has programs for "special children"? Can we say "Star kids" and "Indigo?"

[/QUOTE]

http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/maynerd-most-scam.htm

That's just for starters on some of these people.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/most.htm - on Vinnie

http://www.cassiopaea.com/Vincent_Bridges_COINTELPRO_Agent/index.html


If you want to know more about the alleged "Grand Larceny" etc , go here:

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=673&p=1

I've read both sides where as you've read 50% of the transcripts and almost nothing of the site.

It's not my job to convince you but you should at least get both sides of the story first. ;) If its not for you then its not for you - walk away. :)

If I'd always listened to others opinions on people I would have never even read an Icke book because all I heard was, "He's mad" etc.

I make up my own mind. :)

[Anders Lindman]

I think we should practice sending out hatred. There is so much trapped hatred in us that we need to burn it away somehow. It's probably harmless to send out hatred. Because hatred is like crap energy, trapped energy, blocked and/or stagnated energy. By releasing that energy, we turn it into neutral vibrations, so that we can be cleansed.

[mcmenek1]

Some have said about there being nothing wrong sending love to the Earth, and their right, there's nothing wrong with that - it's the changing the Earth - to how you see fit. I mean, the Earth is a living organism too so it will also have a destiny, so trying to change that is a violation of free will, just like trying to change another when they don't ask for it.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw in some data for some to ponder from the C's transcripts on love:


Hi neutron flux,

What makes you think the Earth hasn’t asked for help?............Well according to Matthew Ward she has.......I know you don’t buy the Matthew Ward information but I thought I would post this anyway so people can make up their own minds from all the information that’s available on this subject

Quote Matthew Ward:

“I say once again that your space family answered Earth’s plea for help as far back as six decades in your time, when she was in death throes. She had to decide whether to let her soul return to its former higher vibrations and let her planetary body die, or to ask for the massive help she needed to remain intact so she could give all of her population the opportunity to continue physical life as well.

The universal law in effect here is that a soul must ASK for help. Earth did that. So, while it could be said that God “broke” His own law of nonintervention, again He was honoring Creator’s cosmic law of free will—it was Earth’s CHOICE to survive intact. Thus, in immediate response to her request, God authorized your space family to assist, and from throughout the universe massive light was beamed to stabilize Earth’s orbit, which in her desperately weakened condition was in grave jeopardy. The loss of her own light was caused by the negativity that had been accumulating during millennia of humankind’s brutality to each other, and the infusion of light from other sources was imperative to relieve this near-lethal condition.

Universal assistance to Earth has included extensive use of advanced technologies. Quakes, violent storms and volcanic eruptions are Earth’s own means to relieve negativity entrenched as kinetic energy, and with thanks to ET technology, the extent of death, floods and dramatic changes in seas and coastal lands has been greatly reduced from what it would have been without their intervention.

The light they beamed into Earth’s body bolstered her strength after such dire weakness from loss of her blood, the oil and natural gas that have been extracted. They have intervened as well by lessening the most toxic effects of radioactive elements in weaponry and other manmade pollution, such as the toxins in chemtrails that include airborne laboratory-made diseases, all of which poison Earth’s lungs. They have deflected the course of celestial bodies that could have collided with your planet.

Few souls on Earth are aware of any of these forms of intervention by your helpers in space. Few recognize that there are countless souls in this universe—to me, countless, but not to God—and many, MANY are advanced in soul evolvement, intelligence and technology development beyond your imagination. Through their love for Earth, they have willingly and joyfully assisted her return to being a viable homeland for all souls there, whom they love equally.”

Source http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=15&z=2


Lets put the channelled information to one side for the moment.......this is all about vibration frequency.......”The Powers That Be” have been violating the Earths free will for thousands of years by altering her natural balanced frequency.........they have been suppressing the female energy by carrying out ritual sacrifices at specific energy points on the energy grid that travels around the Earths surface.....if we add to this the manipulated wars, conflicts and the deliberate suppression of the 3RD world........this all has a massive negative effect on the natural vibration frequency of the earth this creates a low unbalanced vibration that cuts the Earth and us off from the higher balanced frequencies of the cosmos......we and the Earth are trapped in a vibration prison

The energy of Love is the balancing vibration frequency of the 3rd Dimension when we send Love to the Earth we are helping to return her to her natural state of being.......the state of being she would be in if ”The Powers That Be” were not doing what they are doing.

If the Earth did not want this love that we are sending to her she could if she wanted to reject it and it would not effect her free will.........but I can assure you she wants it and needs it so she can rebalance and reconnect with the universe.

Love
&
Peace

[mcmenek1]

LOL!

Well I shot some footage yesterday, recording my thoughts on Fire the grid day and doing some choice readings from various sources in the spirit of the event

Unfortunately, whether becuase of the lightening storm in the severn valley or interference from the earth energy node on which I was stood, much of the footage is unusable, its full of energy spikes breaking up the picture and sound

I rescued this snipett, which isn't much, its me doing a bit of reading from "I am me I am Free", but its my first self edited bit of footage and its got a message in there for those who wish to see it: with added lightening strike! So I present it here for what it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCGPpa32WjE
Hi john white,

I've just watched the video......I enjoyed the reading....... great stuff......thanks john for taking part in "Fire The Grid" you made a difference........:)

Love
&
Peace

[john white]

Hi john white,

I've just watched the video......I enjoyed the reading....... great stuff......thanks john for taking part in "Fire The Grid" you made a difference........:)

Love
&
Peace

Thanks mate: Reality is shaped the most by those taking part the most :)

[neutron flux]

The thing is GLP is funded by one of Bush's bankers. One of the Biggest Tar Baby disinfo sites on the net. Runs neck and neck with abovetopsecret. Do a search on that one and you'll find that they employ a nice Neocon lawyer who helps them create their scams and threatens anybody who exposes them.;)

I know Vinnie posts at GLP, so 'nuff said! ;) :)

[neutron flux]

“I say once again that your space family answered Earth’s plea for help as far back as six decades in your time, when she was in death throes. She had to decide whether to let her soul return to its former higher vibrations and let her planetary body die, or to ask for the massive help she needed to remain intact so she could give all of her population the opportunity to continue physical life as well.

The universal law in effect here is that a soul must ASK for help. Earth did that. So, while it could be said that God “broke” His own law of nonintervention, again He was honoring Creator’s cosmic law of free will—it was Earth’s CHOICE to survive intact. Thus, in immediate response to her request, God authorized your space family to assist, and from throughout the universe massive light was beamed to stabilize Earth’s orbit, which in her desperately weakened condition was in grave jeopardy.

How could we even begin to verify that the Earth asked for help? We just have to take some dead-dudes' word for it.

The loss of her own light was caused by the negativity that had been accumulating during millennia of humankind’s brutality to each other

So doesn't the problem then lie with humanity? Maybe we should start looking at ourselves instead of "fixing" the planet as the psychopath doesn't look like it's going to disappear anytime soon, and also to stop waiting for the "space family" to assist and save us.

Universal assistance to Earth has included extensive use of advanced technologies. Quakes, violent storms and volcanic eruptions are Earth’s own means to relieve negativity entrenched as kinetic energy, and with thanks to ET technology, the extent of death, floods and dramatic changes in seas and coastal lands has been greatly reduced from what it would have been without their intervention.


Really? We have no way to verify this, and by the looks of things they haven't done a very good job - or their technology is just plain rubbish.

They have intervened as well by lessening the most toxic effects of radioactive elements in weaponry and other manmade pollution, such as the toxins in chemtrails that include airborne laboratory-made diseases, all of which poison Earth’s lungs. They have deflected the course of celestial bodies that could have collided with your planet.


Again, they seem to have done nothing as I'm sure you've seen the effects of depleted Uranium for example and the other pollution -but the message seems to be: "go back to sleep, everything's being taken care of". Why didn't they intervene by taking out the root causes i.e. psychopaths?

Few souls on Earth are aware of any of these forms of intervention by your helpers in space. Few recognize that there are countless souls in this universe—to me, countless, but not to God—and many, MANY are advanced in soul evolvement, intelligence and technology development beyond your imagination. Through their love for Earth, they have willingly and joyfully assisted her return to being a viable homeland for all souls there, whom they love equally.”


Few are aware of this "intervention" because there doesn't seem to be any - the world is burning more so than ever - but again, the message is one of slumber: "Don't worry, we are here to save you".

The energy of Love is the balancing vibration frequency of the 3rd Dimension when we send Love to the Earth we are helping to return her to her natural state of being.......the state of being she would be in if ”The Powers That Be” were not doing what they are doing.


Isn't then the problem the PTB? Shouldn't we be looking at the psychopaths and the Pathocracy that which engulfs us? Shouldn't we be looking at ourselves? Isn't that which needs to be "fixed" and not the Earth?

[cheeb]

Can you stop fireing up the grid please,
we are getting pretty wet in Gloster,
I see the laws of repulsion at work here,
pOe

PttP