Is David Icke and Anti-Semite?

[luciferhorus]

On Zionism, anti-Semitism, Israel and the linguistics of propaganda. An Israeli-Communist perspective


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Lucifer

Aeon of Light 2009

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Who are the Semites? What is Anti-Semitism. Who are the children of Isis Ra and El?


The authors of the Torah believed that the world was divided into 3 races (raca: family). These were the 3 sons of Noah. Ham was allegedly the forefather of the Africans. Japeth was allegedly the forefather of the Aryans / Europeans. Shem was allegedly the forefather of the Semites (the Orientals). This is the linguistic origin of the term 'Semitic,' and not so long ago, prior to the birth of the modern Zionist movement, in the English language the term Semite referred to people from China, Japan, India and the 'Arabs' or indeed anyone who was neither white nor black. Similarly the word ‘semi (as in semi-tone or semi-skimmed or semi-detached)’ if used in English to denote colour, would be a description of a blend of two colours.

The Palestinians are mostly Semites and most of the Israeli Jews are the descendents of Europeans, Russians and Khazars whose forefathers converted to a heretical version of the Israelite faith. Their ancestors were never enslaved in Egypt and apart from the Communists and socialists, the religious and Capitalist Jews have little concern for African slave revolution.

Here, for example, is a photo of Jacob Rothschild, who is probably one of the most powerful Capitalists in the world.


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This man has the blood of millions of Usury victims in the Third World on his hands; much of humanity are economic slaves to his family; behind the guise of Judaism he is part of the 'cause' of the economic chaos we find ourselves in, however if you don't like this man because of his 'appearance (as opposed to his economic power)' then you clearly a racist; you don't like white people, but you are not an anti-Semite because this man is not a Semite.

The 'Israelites' were African slaves allegedly liberated by a slave revolt in 1600B.C.. Here is a photo of some Egyptian slaves. Notice the dark skin.

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Here is a photo of some Jews in poverty stricken Ethiopia whose ancestors are much more likely to have been slaves in Egypt, but if they ever get Israeli passports they can expect to be treated with racial contempt by some of the Jews of European descent

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Compare the racial appearance of the people in the photos above to the photo of Jacob Rothschild.

The world's economic masters spend vast sums of money financing organisations like Bnai Brith (Heb. "Sons of the Covenant" ) and its offshoot the Anti-defamation League who refer to anyone who attacks their sponsors as 'anti-Semitic' and yet their sponsors are not Semites, but Europeans. The Rothschild banking dynasty whose banks enslave all nations in debt are also financiers of the state of Israel (Occupied Palestine) and whose policies towards the Palestinians / Arabs (who are Semites) are clearly anti-Semitic; in fact I think that it would be an accurate generalisation to say that most Israeli Jews with the exception of the political Left are overtly racist and anti-Semitic.

My father's religion is the same religion as the Rothschilds and Muslims define it as the 'Jewish Mafia' but he has blonde hair and blue eyes, his ancestors were never African slaves.

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Leviticus (Third Book of Moses)
25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
25:36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
25:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

The somewhat confused anthromorphic God of the Israelites allegedly (sometimes) hates tyrants, moneylenders and the oppressors of the poor (though on other occasions calls for genocide, infanticide, homophobia, human and animal sacrifice). The Rothschilds personify all that many of the prophets cried out against. Usury kills. Usury enslaves, and mostly the people whom it enslaves and the Africans and the Semites; mostly the people whom it enriches are the Americans and Europeans of the ilk of the Rothschilds.

A typical ploy used by the Rothschild gang is that any criticism of the state terrorism committed by the Israeli state, or any criticism of any person who happens to be Jewish, is automatically responded to with cries of "anti-Semitism. There are Israeli Communists who would like to put the Rothschilds up against a wall and shoot them, and there are Orthodox Jews in Israel who refuse to join the army because they believe that Jacob Rothschild is the Anti-Messiah.

On one side you have the 'Holocaust denial-ists,' who deny that the Holocaust ever happened and on the other side you have the so called Christian / Jewish elite lobby who are in denial of the fact that the American banking establishment financed the Nazis; the same establishment who are today the world's most powerful bankers and who support and finance Anglo-American-Israeli state terrorism and militant World Capitalist Revolution.

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Full text of Antony Sutton’s Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler’ on:
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html

See also the thorn in the side of the Anti-Defamation League, German Marxist historian Lenni Brenner's Zionism in the Age of the Dictators: A Reappraisal (1983) on collaboration between the Nazis and the Zionists.

Full text of Zionism in the Age of the Dictators: A Reappraisal on:
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/

Witness the silence and lack of outrage over the argument and evidence presented by Sutton and Brenner by the same people who cry out ‘never again;’ actually they should be crying ‘same again.’ Same old, same old.

The ADL attacks Lenni Brenner. Brenner's response on:
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/brenner_adl.htm


Zion.

‘By the rivers of Babylon we sat down and wept as we remembered Zion’

Zion is the promised land for the freed slaves of the Egyptian slave revolution. It has nothing to do with the terrorist state of Israel.

The term 'Zion' is ancient whereas the modern Zionist movement attributed to Theodor Herzl is a very recent development since the 19th century.

Language is a lie and a weapon of mass hypnosis.

Just as many non-Semitic (and in fact anti-Semitic) Jews of European descent have hijacked the term Semite for their own use, so too have the supporters of Israeli state terrorism hijacked the terms 'Israel (The Holy Trinity of El, Isis and Ra)' and 'Zion,' just as today's Capitalists, and state terrorists have hijacked the term 'democracy (Gr. demos: people. A Greek term referring to a voting system 'without' any elected representatives who vote on behalf of the 'demos,').'

Zion: the promised land. A land where the liberated Egyptian slaves could settle and be free.

The Africans who were enslaved by the Christian slave masters related their own suffering to the story of the descendents of the liberated slaves of Moses' Egyptian slave revolution and also used this Hebrew word to refer to a homeland where they could be free from their slave masters / tyrants etc (i.e., Heaven on Earth). Rastafarians also, for example, although having no genetic link to Ethiopian Jews, are also Zionists, but they do not refer to Occupied Palestine as Zion, but rather the future liberated Ethiopia / Africa.

The state of Israel is hardly a land free of tyranny and of the economic slave masters and religious hypocrites. It is not Zion. It is not Israel.

The Israelites.

The 'Israelites' were the African slaves liberated by Moses; the supporters of the terrorist state of Israel are hardly concerned with the liberation of African and Semitic slaves; on the contrary, they are predominately anti-Semitic racists who would rather supply out African brothers and sister with weapons to kill each other off to make way for their golf courses, holiday resorts and flower farms, and who consider most Arabs (who are Semites) to be 'untermensche' living on their future 'Lebensraum.'

Shame.

Jewish anti-Zionism (by state terrorist definition)

http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/middle_east/palestine/because_we_are_jews.htm
http://nkuk.org

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Language Science 101. Anarchism and Linguistics.

The defence of the definitions of language.

In Orwell's 1984 'Newspeak' is not a new language; on the contrary it is the English language where definitions are tightly controlled and defined only by the state terrorists (tyrants). For example, terms such as 'Freedom' and 'liberation' are terms used by state propagandists which refer to being enslaved by the state. Newspeak also has a 'dictionary;' the words are the same as our words, but the definitions are not.

Neom Chomsky, a modern Anarchist Jewish prophet, for example, in his lectures often refers to the use of the word 'democracy' by the propagandists of state terrorism. He asks his audience to do some simple research on the term 'democracy as understood by 'political scientists' and 'historians.'

Chomsky being probably one of the most important linguists in our time, has access to the same 'dictionaries' as you, I and George Bush have, but if you dispute the meaning of the term 'democracy' with him by stating that his definition is not the 'dictionary' definition, or the way that George Bush uses the term democracy, then it would not make any difference to the way he defines the term.

Zion.

Similarly with a dictionary definition of the term 'Zion;' it really depends upon the 'authority' who writes the dictionary, and on who gets the most press in recent history by using the term as a political mantra.

Jesus.

Similarly organised religion (mass hypnosis) such as myself have mostly become evangelical anti-Christians; whereas Christian Anarchists continue to challenge the use of the term 'Christian' by the rich and the religious hypocrites, since they consider Jesus to have been an anti-propertyist (Communist) martyr, however that is not the dictionary definition of the term 'Christian.'

A person who is 'contrary to authority (Anarchos)' is obliged to challenge the definitions of language of the establishment (i.e., to challenge Newspeak).

Democracy.

Democracy is a Greek term where the Athenian citizens all gathered together and voted on the issues of the day. Issues such as 'do we need a larger Navy?' would be debated publicly and at the end of the debate, each citizen had a shard of pottery and would place the shard in either one of two large pots, one representing yes and one representing no. Democracy is anti-monarchy, anti-tyranny and anti-republican. However this is not the current Newspeak definition as used by Bush, Blair and other state terrorists.

Republic.

A republic is where a select group of usually wealthy citizens vote in their own interests and allegedly on behalf of the demos. America is an elected republic with an elected military dictator who, like Blair over here in the UK can wage war without consulting his senators (as it would be in a republic), and without the vote of the people (as it would be in a democracy without a dictator or a republic of senators).

British and American democracy.

America and Britain are 'not' a democracies; even the 'Democratic Party' are Republicans by strict political science definition. However Windsor, Obama and other dictators use the term 'democracy' to define such a system. This is simply Orwellian Newspeak and part of the attempt to control of definitions of the English (or 'Greek' in this case) language which must be challenged.

Anarchy in New Orleans.

For example the mass media reported that Anarchy broke out in New Orleans after the recent disaster (i.e. rape, murder, looting, chaos). If Anarchy had really broken out in New Orleans it would be a place full of independent Communist collectives sharing resources and loving, helping, sharing and co-operating with each other; in fact what occurred was the effects of chaos in a Capitalist city.

Anarchism in Newspeak = the tyranny of individual selfishness and chaos.

Prior to the age of the Sex Pistols and the punk rock movement Anarchism was an anti-authoritarian Communist political philosophy, but it has now been defined in Newspeak as the chaos and selfishness that occurs after Capitalism breaks down.

The defence of language against Orwelian Newspeak (state controlled definitions) is important. The terms 'Israel' and 'Zion' need to be understood in their ancient historical context.

Language is a lie. Words are weapons. Propaganda is the first stage of War.

When Obama gives his speeches and uses words such as 'freedom' and 'liberation,' some people are totally hypnotised, but probably the majority of the oppressed people of the world do not accept his definitions.

Good and evil both use the same terms of language to define themselves and their enemies. If a person were to use Newspeak in Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba and most of Africa, for example and claim that the Anglo-American state terrorists represent 'freedom' and 'liberation' and 'democracy (people power)' then they would probably be met with an angry response.

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Dietrich Eckhart, author of Bolshevism: from Moses to Hitler: A dialogue between Hitler and me’ was a Nazi, but he and other Nazis were correct in a number of assumptions: 1: The god of the Israelites was / is the god of an army of militant non-Aryan slaves in revolt against their masters. 2: Communism is the modern day political faith which is the equivalent of the faith of the Egyptian slave revolution 3600 years ago. 3: Communism is a bigger political faith among Jews than the synagogue minority.

On Zionist Judaeo-Communism.

Frankly Judaeo-Communism (kibbutzim) is by far the most successful practical (non-utopian) Communist experiment thus far and is the model of collectivism and for the liberation of the Third World (the feeding of the 6 billion, or however many are left after apocalyptic war) and the substantiation of economic Heaven on Earth. However this is 'despite' the state terrorist government of Occupied Palestine (aka Israel). 100 years ago Jews and Muslims lived together in peace in Palestine. Kibbutzim (collectivism) has nothing to do with religion; it is an economic model that could have been transferred to the population of Palestine (whether Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist or whatever), however both the Palestinian and Israeli governments have chosen Capitalism.


If you consider the cost in economic terms (labour hours) of building greenhouse (glass is made mostly with sand which is in abundant supply in Palestine) agricultural collectives in the deserts of Palestine with the cost in both economic terms and human terms (i.e., militarisation and the suffering of poverty) of throwing Palestinians off their land and building a wall to keep the Palestinians out, it would have taken much less effort to introduce collective farming; instead millions of Palestinians live in refugee camps, most are unemployed, poor and full of justifiable hate. The Judaeo-Communists (kibbutzists) in Palestine have thus far lost the battle against the state terrorists, but the revolution will never be over until the eradication of the last government and the last Capitalist from the face of the earth .

Sword to Ploughshares (agricultural tools) and economic heaven on earth for everyone can only be achieved through collectivist agricultural revolution and the total eradication of Capitalism / private propertyism. There is no other way that is not Utopian (impractical idealism).

On the Khazars whose nobility converted to Judaism in the 9th century ADE and the masses followed suit.

A number of points.

1: The Khazars (in the modern age, South East Europeans, formerly in the Southern part of the Soviet Union, North of the Black Sea) are not Semites.

2: Since huge numbers of Khazars converted to Judaism, when they migrated to Christian Europe, they brought their faith with them.

3: Notable persons of alleged Khazar / Ashkenazim heritage would include Karl Marx, the Rothschild banking family and the comedian Sacha Cohen (aka Ali-G, Borat and Bruno), Speilberg, Streisand, etc., and they were / are not Semites.

4: The Egyptian slave revolution was approx 1600 BC (the exact date is disputed). The Khazars did not convert to Judaism until 2500 years later.

5: The world 'Jew' is not Hebrew but rather a non-Hebrew term used to describe the followers of Moses, the prophets, the Kabbalah etc. ....rather like the way that the derogatory word 'nigger' or 'queer' is now often used by Africans and Gays in self description as a term of endearment . Frankly I used to be offended when I was referred to as a terrorist or a queer or a Jew, whereas I am now I just laugh when described as such. The term 'Jew' appears to have a somewhat similar origin and may be derived from 'Judah (one of the 12 tribes)' however the Kahzars are not a lost tribe or 'the tribe of Judah;' they were never 'Jews' until the 9th century .

6: The Israelites (not the Jews) were Africans and Semitic (a person who is not Aryan or black) slaves.

7: Along with Judaism came 'the Kabbalah (the received tradition)' and from the darker element of the Kabbalist spiritualists came the 'Knights Templars,' the modern day Freemasons, the Rothschilds, banking etc; and from all that was good about the Kabbalah, the gods gave birth to me; I cannot speak for anyone else; I can only speak on my own behalf

8: Hebrew 'is' a Semitic language, however if a Nazi or an Israeli of European descent can speak Hebrew, it does not make them a Semite any more than person from Japan who speaks English is an Aryan.


There never has been and never will be a Jewish 'race.' The Egyptian slaves were not of a single identifiable race.


I am not for the Masters who shall perish in the Final War, but for the enslaved who shall inherit the earth as long prophesied and predicted by the prophets.

The point of prophecy is not to predict the future but to change the future.

Give me apocalyptic war, revolution, holocaust, anything good but strong…. Etc

Until Victory. Until Jerusalem. Until Revolution in all the world.

Lucifer

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The 1000 Year Revolution of Light
For Zion. For African Slave Revolution.


None are free till all are free

[verndewd]

to be honest the term antisemite is fraudulent at best. so even if David were it means nothing. Now being anti shemite or hashemite is different, and beng anti zionist is a requirement to freedom imo.

[steevo]

Is David Icke an Anti-Semite?

No.

[meksar]

"I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War. This Jewish/non-Jewish Elite used the First World War to secure the Balfour Declaration and the principle of the Jewish State of Israel. They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."

Nothing wrong with that, as it is the truth that they don't want you to know. People who have taken it a step further and proved they are not the real Jews in Israel have been killed.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

[meksar]

I have not seen David Icke speak bad about these people at all, so therefore he is not a anti Shemite.

12 Lost Tribes of Israel

Judah - so called Negroes
Benjamin - so called West Indians
Levi - so called Haitians
Simeon - so called Dominicans
Zebulon - Guatemala to Panama
Ephraim - so called Puerto Ricans
Manasseh- so called Cubans
Gad - N.American Indians
Reuben - Seminole Indians
Napthali - Argentina to Chile
Asher - Colombia to Uruguay
Issachar - Mexicans
ALSO ITALIANS, IRISH WHOSE ANCESTRY GOES BACK TO THE MOORS

[1337]

what is the tribe of dan ?

[meksar]

The Khazar's are like rats, they crawled out of a hole and will go running back in once the truth is out.

[luciferhorus]

"I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War. This Jewish/non-Jewish Elite used the First World War to secure the Balfour Declaration and the principle of the Jewish State of Israel. They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."




I certainly concur with the above and with Icke's general analysis of the Capitalist system, though I part ways with him on his 'Reptilian shape-shifting' beliefs and on his state Capitalist solution to the current system.

I don't think of David as a racist but as an anti-racist; however anyone who is critical of the State of Israel and the Rothschild banking dynasty is going to be attacked by their defenders, however this I believe is the source of David's 'anti-Semitism' claims, but as I point out in essay above, most pro-Israel Capitalist Zionists are not in fact of Semitic but rather European descent and further they are commonly anti-Semitic themselves; many of the 5 million Palestinians living in refugee camps 'are' themselves Semites.

LL

Lux

[meksar]

Actually Palestinian's are not really shemites they are ishmalites, only the 12 lost tribes are true shemites. The Khazar's and Arab's are fighting over land that is not theirs, of course the Khazar's are doing the dirty by staging terror events to justify the genocide/inhumanity they commit. Islam was created by the Jesuits to overthrow Jerusalem and destroy King Solomon's temple, now they are going to destroy the mosque's on that site and rebuild Solomon's temple Khazar style.

[eternal_spirit]

The following is a list of ancient Semitic peoples.


Akkadians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadians) — migrated into Mesopotamia in the late 4th millennium BC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_millennium_BC) and amalgamate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgamation_%28history%29) with non-Semitic Mesopotamian (Sumerian) populations into the Assyrians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria) and Babylonians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia) of the Late Bronze Age.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#cite_note-2)
Eblaites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eblaites) — 23rd century BC
Aramaeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaeans) — 16th to 8th century BC[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#cite_note-3)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#cite_note-4) / Akhlames (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhlame) (Ahlamu) 14th century BC[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#cite_note-5)
Ugarites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugarit), 14th to 12th centuries BC
Canaanite language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_languages) speaking nations of the early Iron Age:

Amorites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorites)
Ammonites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_%28nation%29)
Edomites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edomites)
Hebrews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews) — founded the kingdom of Israel and Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah), the remnants of which became the Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews) and Samaritans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans)
Knanaya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knanaya)
Moabites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moabites)
Phoenicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicians) — founded Mediterranean colonies including Carthage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage)

Old South Arabian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_South_Arabian) speaking peoples

Sabaeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaeans) of Yemen — 9th to 1st c. BC

Ethio-Semitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Semitic_languages) speaking peoples

Aksumites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum) — 4th c. BC to 7th c. AD

Arabs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs), Old North Arabian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_North_Arabian) speaking Bedouins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouins)

Gindibu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gindibu)'s Arabs 9th c. BC
Lihyanites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lihyan) — 6th to 1st c. BC
Thamud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamud) people — 2nd to 5th c. AD
Ghassanids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassanids) — 3rd to 7th c. AD
Nabataeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataeans) — adopted Arabic in the 4th century AD

[eternal_spirit]

Similarities between Jews and Muslims

1. We worship the same G-d
2. We are descendents of Abraham
3. Our Males are circumcised according to Abrahamic law
4. Both cultures are of Semitic origin
5. Jerusalem is our Holy City
6. We stress good works over faith.
7. We share many advances in medicine; philosophy; law; literature and poetry.
8. There are extremists and peacemakers on both sides.
9. We are descendents of Abraham
10. We worship the same G-d


Similarities over differences

Much has been written about the differences between Jews and Muslims: a lot less about the similarities between us.

Jews, Muslims and Christians have a lot more in common than we care to sometimes admit.

We share belief in the same one G-d.
The originator of our religions and cultures is
the same person: Abraham.
Jews, Muslims and Christians - are regarded as Abrahamic religions.
We share one same holy place: The Temple Mount (the Rock) is where Abraham brought his son to sacrifice him. Adam was buried there. Solomon built a great temple there. Jesus prayed there. Mohammad ascended there. (Source: Bruce Feiler Abraham)

There are many common aspects between Islam and Judaism. As Islam developed it gradually became the major religion closest to Judaism. As opposed to Christianity which originated from interaction between ancient Greek and Hebrew cultures, Judaism is similar to Islam in its fundamental religious outlook, structure, jurisprudence and practice. (Source: http://rabbidavidrosen.net/)

There are many traditions within Islam originating from traditions within the Hebrew Bible or from post-biblical Jewish traditions. These practices are known collectively as the Isra'iliyat. (Source: http://post.queensu.ca/~jjl/islam.html (http://post.queensu.ca/%7Ejjl/islam.html)

Arabs in Israel

20% of today's Israeli population is Muslim. The inhabitants live together with their Jewish counterparts peacefully. The majority of Muslim citizens of Israel are descendants of the 150,000 Palestinian Arabs who remained within the State of Israel after the end of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Many Arab citizens of Israel have continued to identify themselves as Palestinian and hold ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, as well as to residents of occupied East Jerusalem, annexed by Israel in 1980. (Source: Question of Palestine: Jerusalem. United Nations. http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/qpal/index.html)

Steps forward - Jews In Iran

Iran contains the most number of Jews among Muslim countries and Uzbekistan and Turkey have the next ranks. Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. Maurice Motamed has been the Jewish MP since 2000, and was re-elected again in 2004. In 2000, former Jewish MP Manuchehr Eliasi estimated that at that time there were still 30-35,000 Jews in Iran, other sources put the figure as low as 20-25,000. (Source: Bahá'í Association http://www.uga.edu/bahai/News/021600.html)

[eternal_spirit]

George W. Bush, Zionist Double Agent, American Traitor


"A man is considered an anti-Semite if he calls a Jew a Jew."


"Then...when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you."
—John 20:19

It was in 1990 that I first met the remarkable and brilliant Boris Lunachev. Aged, bent over slightly by repeated attacks of osteoporosis, Lunachev had asked to see me privately. He had, I understood, once been a most distinguished professor of Marxist doctrine at the prestigious Lenin Institute. He was a rising star on the Soviet political and educational scene. But in the late 70s, Lunachev was abruptly and unceremoniously ousted from his post and exiled to the West.

Shaking the wisened old man's hand and seeking to inject a friendly tone into our conversation, I smiled and said, "So, you are a Russian, Dr. Lunachev?"

"Yes, I am a Russian," he answered.

"But please, my dear friend," he continued. "Always remember, there are Russians and then there are Russians. And some who are Russian are not Russian."

Confusing language, I thought, if intriguing. I made a mental note to later inquire further into the nature of Lunachev's puzzling words. However, I soon discovered that follow up was not at all necessary. The good Professor Lunachev more than answered my curiosity with what he had to say.

A Stellar Career Until...

Lunachev recounted his stellar career, beginning as a leader of the Communist Youth, his earning of high-level doctorate degrees, and his academic career, during which he was lauded and commended on a regular basis. Apparently, Lunachev was poised for further advancement; he was even being considered for a top political position in the Kremlin as a Marxist theoretician and was well rewarded economically by the elite intelligencia. Until...until he said something very, very vital—and very, very sensitive—to the wrong person.

It seems that a high-ranking Commissar had come from Moscow to the Institute to interview Lunachev for the Kremlin post.

The Commissar, who was very pleased with Lunachev's deportment and his responses to standard questions, finally stated: "Professor Lunachev, is there any area of research or study that you have conducted that is unique or unusual?"

"Yes," Lunachev replied. "I have recently been studying the field of race and biology. I have discovered that the great Karl Marx was a Jew and so was Comrade Lenin." "Comrade Stalin was an avid reader of the Jewish Talmud, and Comrade Khruschev's real surname was Perlmutter. He, too, was a Jew."

"I believe these facts of racial history need to be reported to the Soviet people and to the world," said Lunachev, "so everyone will recognize that the government of the USSR is not, as some have alleged, anti-Semitic."

"Thank you for your time." retorted the now sober-faced and ashen Commissar. "You are dismissed."

His Unpardonable Crime

That very evening, Boris Lunachev was accosted on his way home by Soviet secret police. He was taken promptly to a waiting aircraft and flown to Rome, Italy, where he was told by Soviet Embassy officials he would forever be persona non grata (unwelcome) in his native Russia. He had become an outcast.

What was Lunachev's horrible crime, his unacceptable transgression against his Communist overseers?

"My unpardonable crime," Lunachev said to me, "was to call a Jew a Jew."

Professor Lunachev, however, considered himself fortunate, indeed. "In 1917 in Soviet Russia," he explained, "one of the first laws passed by Lenin and the Bolsheviks was a law making anti-Semitism a crime punishable by death. In Rome, the KGB bluntly told me that to call a Jew a Jew, and especially to make public the name of a crypto-Jew, one who was hiding under an assumed Russian name, was clearly an act of anti-Semitism."

And so it was that Lunachev, by no means an anti-Semite in the real meaning of the term, a man who simply wanted to give Communism's founders and pioneers their due by recognizing their racial ancestry, became a feared and marked outlaw, a dangerous subversive to be banished and persecuted.

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Lenin and his cohorts were satanic Jews who put 66 million to death in the indescribable Red Terror. Yet, it was a capital crime ("anti-semitism") to reveal their Jewish ethnic identity. Pictured above are four Soviet gulag camp commandants, all Jews. They are giving a Masonic hand sign

Below: Many Communist gulag prisoners died of malnutrition. Their meager daily diet consisted of a filthy, rat feces-infested bowl of gruel and occasionally a tiny bit of black bread.
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Understanding Lunachev's Predicament

I vaguely understand Lunachev's predicament. I was the first to publish the true facts regarding Hillary Rodham Clinton's Jewish ancestry. I also exposed "Irish" Senator John Kerry's true race—yep, he's a crypto-Jew. And for good measure, I threw in revelations that former Secretary of State, Comrade Madeleine Albright, and General Wesley Clark are also Jews. Reluctantly and angrily, Hillary, Kerry, Clark and Albright subsequently came out of the closet and owned up to their Jewish heritage, though they have all refused to explain why they had hidden it all these many years.

What a buzzsaw and furor I had ignited! The hounds out of Jerusalem's darkest cemeteries came at me with fangs bared, blood dripping from the corners of their gaping jaws. I discovered, as did Lunachev, that it is forbidden to call a Jew a Jew.

That was when I, too, realized, that I had unwittingly became a vile and evil "anti-Semite," targeted for destruction by the denizens of the emerging Jewish World State.

However, unlike in Soviet Russia, in America the midnight cowboys who reside in the cesspool of Soviet Washington, D.C. have so far been unable to banish Texe Marrs or to oust me from my independent perch as president of Power of Prophecy Ministries. Oh, how they have tried, but I am still here, toiling away, exercising my First Amendment rights, much to their chagrin and annoyance.

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In this photo from a radical Jewish Lubavitcher web site, President Bush waves on the way to his Jewish Talmud class. He was accompanied by former White House spokesman and recently ordained Rabbi, Ari Fleischer. Sources confirm that the President is a Jewish religious fanatic but understands he must keep his beliefs under cover.
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And Now, Yet Another Revelation

And now, dear friends, I have decided to reveal to you the name of yet another crypto-Jew. This time, the culprit is a man who is only the latest in a series of dynastic leaders, all of whom were and are Jews and all of whom have carefully and watchfully guarded this Great Secret. I hereby stamp myself—according to the reigning criteria or rules promulgated by the Illuminati elite—as a bonafide anti-Semite merely by once again calling a Jew a Jew. Fact: GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, is a Jew.

Absurd? Preposterous, you say? Well, I have carefully traced the history of the Bush Dynasty, including the Rothschild faction, and without hesitation I declare to you that, yes, indeed, George W. Bush is a Jew: A Jew by race, a Jew by religious choice. Hidden from public view.

What the media dare not tell you is that, as President, George W. Bush appointed as his first official White House spokesman, a Jew—in fact, a Jewish rabbi—Ari Fleischer. He retained a Jewish banker, Alan Greenspan, as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He made a Jewish Rabbi, Dov Zackheim, the Comptroller (money man!) of the Pentagon, and he placed a Jewish ideologue and Christian hater, Michael Chertoff, in the scary position of being head of FEMA and Homeland Security. Yes, Chertoff, an ADL fiend whose father is a Jewish rabbi, is now America's Gulag Commandant, our American version of Himmler.

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This publication of the National Jewish Welfare Board lists a Major George Bush, Major Louis Bush, and Major Solomon Bush, as Jews participating in the American Revolutionary War against the British. It also reveals the money connection of Rothschild agent, Haym Salomon, to what it describes as the "weak U.S. government."

My investigation of the Bush-Jewish connection has been in progress for six years now. One thing I discovered is that George W. Bush is a devoted student of the Jewish Talmud, just as were Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. He is also, I am persuaded, a dedicated agent of Zionist Israel, which makes him double agent and traitor to the United States of America.

Bush has adopted the same techniques of torture, political deceit, perpetual war, and pure hatred of perceived enemies, as has the notorious Israeli spy agency, Mossad. The Mossad's motto is "By Way of Deception Make War." This, not coincidentally, is also George W. Bush's motto. How very Talmudic. How very Satanic.

"Christians Who Are Not Christians"

But, isn't Bush supposed to be a Christian? How, then can he be a religious Jew? Ah, perhaps those who ask this question should read books like Colonel Donn de Grand Pré's insightful Barbarians Inside the Gates: Book Three, the Rattler's Revenge. As my friend, the good Colonel de Grand Pré, notes so wisely in his excellently documented volume, we are confronted today by Leviathan, a two-headed monster, "one head comprised of Jews who are not Jews and the other, Christians who are not Christians."

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This official photo shows First Lady Laura Bush, December 6, 2005, "kosherizing" the White House kitchen. Present is the Bush family rabbi along with two other rabbis, approved Jewish chefs, and assistants. (whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005)

Which leads me back to Professor Boris Lunachev and our informative and rewarding meeting. As we departed, I again took his hand in mine and I asked him. "Dr. Lunachev, is there anything you'd like to say to me, perhaps to capitalize or to emphasize the importance of what we have discussed?"

"Yes," Lunachev answered, his probing brown eyes peering deep into mine. "I beg you to never forget, there are Americans and then there are Americans. And some who are American are not American."

"We are one nation. We are neither American Jews nor Soviet Jews, but only Jews!"

-Theodore Herzl
Founder of Modern Zionism

http://www.goyimpride.org/2008/07/george-w.html

[luciferhorus]

[B]
"We are one nation. We are neither American Jews nor Soviet Jews, but only Jews!"

-Theodore Herzl
Founder of Modern Zionism



Zion

Some Jews (the Capitalists) are vermin who are unworthy of life and should be exterminated, whereas other Jews (the Communists) are the future saviours of humanity.

Obvioulsy I tend to take the side of of the wheat (the Israeli Communists) and despise the chaff (the Israeli Capitaists)

I am new here,

I should 'out' myself, prior to further debate.

I am an evangelical Zionist and Communist.

I have genocidal tendencies, I am a kabbalist, I practice ritual magick, sex magck, necromancy and I want to kill all anti-Communists (there are probably at least a bnillion of you) and I will not suffer racists in my presence without retribution.

I am of Aryan stock, but I am racist only in regard to the fact that I like African men; it is a personal preference of mine; they are better lovers.

If you are of the Capitalist camp, I should point out that unlike the Christian and Capitalist Zionist 'untermenshce', that I have no desire to torture, imprision and sexualy abuse anyone; I simply demand your blood and the blood of your children and children's children, etc, until I can be sure of your total eradication.


Lux
The Separation of the wheat from the chaff.

[serpentseed]

You mean like this zionist masonic pig? All the "isms" don't work all are the construct of the same "hidden hand"

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I bet you dont even realise that osiris/horus/lucifer/jabulon/ is the lord of the old testament that is the reptile behind the illuminati.

Genesis 15

8And he said, LORD God, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
9And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
10And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.
11And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.
12And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

Now look at this again as a composite symbol
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A female goat with rams legs and doves wings....But also note the reptilian scales around the mid section...As above so below in Heaven as it is on Earth.... Also the caduceus of hermes on the lap also known as the staff of moses and the staff of horus.

You're so consumed with being some so called antichrist you don't even realise you've been had.

Icke isn't an anti semite this is NOTHING to do with race at all but more the corruption that has been here since antiquity.

[thetonic]

Zion

Some Jews (the Capitalists) are vermin who are unworthy of life and should be exterminated, whereas other Jews (the Communists) are the future saviours of humanity.

Obvioulsy I tend to take the side of of the wheat (the Israeli Communists) and despise the chaff (the Israeli Capitaists)

I am new here,

I should 'out' myself, prior to further debate.

I am an evangelical Zionist and Communist.

I have genocidal tendencies, I am a kabbalist, I practice ritual magick, sex magck, necromancy and I want to kill all anti-Communists (there are probably at least a bnillion of you) and I will not suffer racists in my presence without retribution.

I am of Aryan stock, but I am racist only in regard to the fact that I like African men; it is a personal preference of mine; they are better lovers.

If you are of the Capitalist camp, I should point out that unlike the Christian and Capitalist Zionist 'untermenshce', that I have no desire to torture, imprision and sexualy abuse anyone; I simply demand your blood and the blood of your children and children's children, etc, until I can be sure of your total eradication.




LOL lolololol you are a deluded muppet of satan

[watson_k]

Zion

Some Jews (the Capitalists) are vermin who are unworthy of life and should be exterminated, whereas other Jews (the Communists) are the future saviours of humanity.

Obvioulsy I tend to take the side of of the wheat (the Israeli Communists) and despise the chaff (the Israeli Capitaists)

I am new here,

I should 'out' myself, prior to further debate.

I am an evangelical Zionist and Communist.

I have genocidal tendencies, I am a kabbalist, I practice ritual magick, sex magck, necromancy and I want to kill all anti-Communists (there are probably at least a bnillion of you) and I will not suffer racists in my presence without retribution.

I am of Aryan stock, but I am racist only in regard to the fact that I like African men; it is a personal preference of mine; they are better lovers.

If you are of the Capitalist camp, I should point out that unlike the Christian and Capitalist Zionist 'untermenshce', that I have no desire to torture, imprision and sexualy abuse anyone; I simply demand your blood and the blood of your children and children's children, etc, until I can be sure of your total eradication.


Lux
The Separation of the wheat from the chaff.

Doesn't sound like a typical post from you. Or are you explaining how a Zionist would describe himself?

[thetonic]

Doesn't sound like a typical post from you. Or are you explaining how a Zionist would describe himself?

youre joking right?

[watson_k]

youre joking right?

Not at all.

[thetonic]

Not at all.

re read the post carefully and then see how redundant you sound


I am new here,

I should 'out' myself, prior to further debate.

[watson_k]

re read the post carefully and then see how redundant you sound

I am new here,

I should 'out' myself, prior to further debate.

I am an evangelical Zionist and Communist.

I have genocidal tendencies, I am a kabbalist, I practice ritual magick, sex magck, necromancy and I want to kill all anti-Communists (there are probably at least a bnillion of you) and I will not suffer racists in my presence without retribution.

I am of Aryan stock, but I am racist only in regard to the fact that I like African men; it is a personal preference of mine; they are better lovers.

If you are of the Capitalist camp, I should point out that unlike the Christian and Capitalist Zionist 'untermenshce', that I have no desire to torture, imprision and sexualy abuse anyone; I simply demand your blood and the blood of your children and children's children, etc, until I can be sure of your total eradication.

He's talked about himself differently before, in previous posts I have re-read that and from what I am reading, he is either talking about himself or about the Zionists from their own point of view.

[thetonic]

He's talked about himself differently before, in previous posts I have re-read that and from what I am reading, he is either talking about himself or about the Zionists.

yes because loving african men in the butty is so cliche Zionist! :rolleyes:

do you feel betrayed by your kaballah master ?

[watson_k]

yes because loving african men in the butty is so cliche Zionist! :rolleyes:

do you feel betrayed by your kaballah master ?

What ever do you mean my Kaballah master. You must not realise I don't agree with a lot that he has said, but then again, you probably wouldn't care.

Now Zionists come from all walks of life, they are not just Jewish. It wouldn't be a stretch of the mind to think some Zionists a black queers, would it.

[thetonic]

It wouldn't be a stretch of the mind to think some Zionists a black queers, would it.


oh dear , at least you gave me a good laugh!!!

[watson_k]

oh dear , at least you gave me a good laugh!!!

That's all I can hope for.

[luciferhorus]

Doesn't sound like a typical post from you. Or are you explaining how a Zionist would describe himself?

I am just trying to wind up the Christians; it is what I do.

Frankly the militant Christians and the Muslims want to nuke each other back to the stoneage.

There is no real possibility of intelligent debate with either side; war and blood sacrifice is their chosen method; their choice not mine; I would simply prefer both sides to surrender and give up their weapons.

The military strategy of the Christian state terrorists has been that of division and conquest; why fight your enemies if you can get them to fight each other? The Christians used this strategy in African to get African tribes to fight each other and they are using this strategy today.

Bear in mind also that the Christian state terrorists long supported and financed militant Islam in their war against the Soviets and other common enemies.

I simply have to take the same view as a Communist; the Muslims and Christian state terrorists are both willing to want to fight each other to the death for their differing brands of Capitalism; they both represent the enemies of the Final Revolutionary War of Economic Salvation and the liberation of the Motherland (Africa).



LL

Lux
ordo ab chaos.

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On Alleged Islamic Extremism. On the forthcoming apocalyptic war against Christendom. On Christianity and Islam


cc: alt.messianic, alt.religion.islam, alt.anarchism, uk.religion.islam, various Christian and Islamic discussion groups, etc.

Lucifer

For World Communist Revolution.

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Aeon of Light, 2009.

Dear Islamic Brothers and Sisters,

True Muslims are militant; non militants are Christian collaborators.

Militant Christian extremists define their Muslim collaborators as ’True Muslims’ and their militant enemies as ’extremists.’ You are being sold this lie by a multi-lingual army of professional bloggers and journalists in the employment of the Anglo-American-Israeli governments who will never admit who their true masters are. This propaganda war is not a war of arms, but of words, and is taking place in the realm of the Internet, the mass media and the academic realms where many of you exist. Do not be fooled.

Mohammad was a reformer of Capitalism. He was not entirely anti-slavery (on the contrary); I cannot be entirely uncritical of him, but he forbade ‘Ahat (Usury, loan sharking, money lending).’

His armies did not peacefully liberate Mecca from the Usuryists, pimps and religious cultists who had enslaved the masses in sex slavery and economic slavery.

The Meccan revolution was an armed violent revolution and blood was shed.

Similarly in Cuba, the country was run by the mafia, by loan sharks, by American corporations and by pimps; it was full of Casinos and like pre-revolutionary Mecca it’s young women had to sell themselves to rich old men for capitalist coin. Cuba had 100, 000 prostitutes among it’s tiny population.

To fight such evil and violent men, you have to be prepared, as Mohammad and Castro’s militia did, to use militant will.

You cannot eradicate armed Christian gangsters with peace rallies.

The Christian state terrorists / narco-terrorists are currently engaged in armed violent World Capitalist Revolution, the holocaust of all militant enemies, and the economic enslavement of humanity under Capitalism.

As Muslims, you are probably aware that Jesus was an anti-Capitalist / anti-monetarist who told the rich to give all that they had to the poor; that makes not an iota of difference to the Christian state terrorists; you cannot debate theology with an army who is dropping depleted uranium shells on women and children for the purposes of Capitalist imperialism, even if they do so in Jesus’ name.

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My own head of state in the UK (Elizabeth Windsor) is both head of the Anglican Church, head of State and head of the armed forces; she is allegedly Jesus’ representative on earth. In the army recruiting offices her photo is proudly on display; all officers in army are Q.C’s (Queen’s Commission); all soldiers fight for her and her god (Jesus to the Christians) and her chaplains bury their soldiers promising them eternal paradise for their devotion to state terrorism, torture, murder, narco-terrorism, genoicide and capitalist imperialism.

Among the Christians, particularly in Latin America are many Christian Communists and Liberation Theologians who realise that Jesus was an anti-Capitalist, and who oppose Anglo-American-Israeli imperialism; these Christian Communists are not bombing your brothers and sisters, and are generally considered heretics and even terrorists by the Christian state terrorists; with them you could debate theology and beliefs regarding Jesus and Mohammad, but you cannot debate theology with the Christian state terrorists. Establishment, state terrorist / narco-terrorist Capitalist Christianity is, in my judgement, simply the Devil’s mockery of an anti-Capitalist martyr.

You cannot make peace with a tyrant who seeks to bomb you, torture you and enslave you unless you comply with his will. That was not the attitude which the armies of Mohammad took in the Meccan revolution.

False Flags.

The ‘False Flag’ strategy is a tried and tested strategy by the Christian / Zionist state terrorists. It always works to some extent. Many of you have probably watched numerous Internet videos and read reports on this subject and are aware of this.

First the state terrorists have attacked Sunni civilians (‘especially’ women and children) and then blamed it on the Shia. Then they have attacked the Shia civilians and blamed it on the Sunnis. Soon both sides hate each other and they fight each other instead of fighting the Christian state terrorists.

The Iraqi police have already arrested British soldiers dressed as Muslims who were driving around shooting civilians, only for them to later be ‘rescued’ by the British; this is well known; it is a deliberate strategy to divide you.

You quite simply cannot make peace with such Christian demons.

Most of you are highly educated in comparison to many of the Afghans who are fighting the Christian narco-terrorists for the control of Afghanistan’s opium production. It is not merely an issue that this opium war leads to many wasted lives among the junkies of the Capitalist states, but this is how the Christians fund their military black budgets which finance their wars.

Many of you on the Internet are Islam’s intellectual vanguard, many of you live in the west among your enemies and you can study this war from the world’s largest resource of essays, reports and film media on the Internet.

Revolutionary Vanguard of Islam

Revolutions generally do not being with the uneducated, helpless and enslaved proletariat; they begin with an intellectual revolutionary vanguard; this requires intelligence, education, study, research and revolutionary propaganda.

Your brothers and sisters in the field of conflict are confused, they are at war with each other, and many seek to collaborate with their enemies for Capitalist coin.

Education is required, and the Internet is one of the best means of disseminating this. Here you can speak from the sky to all peoples and nations, as the lightening flashes from the east to the west, and sit in judgement on the living and dead.

King of all the World (Ad Dijjal)

The Islamic prophecies predict an apocalyptic (i.e., nuclear) war between the armies of Islam and the Ad Dijjal, just as the Israelite prophecies predict a final conflict against the anti-Messiah. The Communists also seek to eradicate the king of Capitalism and his international allies and armies.

Until the armies and allies of the King of all the World (Ad Dijall) are defeated, and the birds of the air eat their flesh, the world shall never know peace.

Great and terrible and dreadful and wrathful shall be the day of judgement. This shall not be a consequence of supernatural events, but the consequence of science.

Physics is War

The Seven Angels of the apocalypse shall not be supernatural beings; they shall be physicists who apply militant will to science.

All the evil that the Christians have done to the world shall in time come back on them 7 times 77, but this shall not occur by divine predestination, it shall require the application of militant apocalyptic will.


Physics is war. Propaganda is the first stage of war.

Love and Light



Lucifer

Until Victory, until Jerusalem, until victory in all the world, there shall be no peace.


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War, revolution, anything good but strong.



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" A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate…..Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine--this is what our soldiers must become."

[watson_k]

Zionist: Zionism is the international Jewish political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine.

According to some conspirators Mr Obama had a fling with a black man and the bloke was killed for it.

Obviously Obama is in the position of trying to push for the state of Israel.

Would that not make him a Zionist and a lover of black men. I'm just using the claims from here.

[watson_k]

I am just trying to wind up the Christians; it is what I do.

So you weren't talking about yourself.

[luciferhorus]

You mean like this zionist masonic pig? .

Firstly I should point out that I am an Anarchist, and all Anarchists spearated themselves ideologically from the Marxists; indeed every year in London at the Anarchist Book fair, the Marxists demonstrate against us.

The power of Masonry stems from the three pillars of 1: Capitalism (monetarism and proeprtyism), 2: Tryanny (government) and 3: Organised religion.

Marxists support the modification of 1 and 2 above and the eradication of 3.
Anarchist Communists tend to seek the eradication of all three, including many Christians Anarchists for whom their faith has nothing to do with organised religion.

Many of the so-called anti-Illuminati crowd are actually seeking no more than to 'modify' 1 and 2 above.

All the "isms" don't work all are the construct of the same "hidden hand"

Well what then is your counterproposal to the current situation.

It is very easy to point the finger are corrupt government and religion, but what is your alternative?

You're so consumed with being some so called antichrist you don't even realise you've been had.

I suppose that I should be considered 'an' Antichrist as far as the Christian Capitalists and state terrorists are concerned, since I am anti their Capitalist defintion of Christ; however I am not the Antichrist; he would be the wealthiest Capitalist King in all the world.



Icke isn't an anti semite this is NOTHING to do with race at all but more the corruption that has been here since antiquity.

Well I think you probably did not read the original essay or you missed the point of it.

LL


Lux

[luciferhorus]

So you weren't talking about yourself.

Well I am taking the piss somewhat since this forum is full of Christians and Freemasons.

However, with regards to Zionism, this term is far more ancient that Theodore Hertzl's 19th century defintion of Zion and Zionism.

Zion is the promised land where the liberated slaves of the African slave revolution could be free; that is still the Communist agenda today

LL

Lux

[meksar]

The real Jews/Israelites are in poverty and have little to no knowledge of their divine history. If you are of African descent and have a European surname(slave name) you are a Israelite, if you are a Hispanic/Latino from South/Central America and have a Spanish or Portuguese surname you are a Israelite. Of course the true identity of the 12 tribes is one of the best kept secrets in the world, however if you keep your eyes and ears open then you will see it for yourself.

The Khazar's/Ashkenazi's were not sold into Bondage(Egypt) and are definitely doing very well for themselves due to their merciless lies and deception. By the way the Egyptian hierarchy was also black and not Arabic as "historians" would have you believe. African's with Arabic surnames are the true Egyptian's. The elite use the lie that are own people sold us into slavery to hide the fact that the Arab's/African elite sold us to the European's who took inhumanity to another level. Black people in America should be offended by the term "African American" as it is derogatory, they and West African's with European names are the Lion of Judah.

[luciferhorus]

The Anarchist-Communist Bakunin on Marx and Rothschild

“Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.


This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ....”
Source: Michael Bakunin, 1871, Personliche Beziehungen zu Marx. In: Gesammelte Werke. Band 3. Berlin 1924. P. 204-216.

Critique and counterproposal.

I should point out that centralised state banking is not only the Marxist/Leninist agenda, but the stated objective of Alex Jones, David Icke and numerous other allegedly anti-New World Order activists and pseudo-Christians (Christian Capitalists).

In 1920's Germany the Marxist/Leninists and Nazis both had very similar ciritiques of the Weimar Republic but different counterproposals; today the anti-Capitalists who seek the total eradication of Capital, and the Capitalist reformers who seek the nationalisation of banking both have similar critiques of the current global Capitalist elites but again different counterproposals.

Athough I accept Icke' s analysis of the economic evil of modern Capitalism, it's web of Capitalist secret societies and the evil of Christianity, as one who seeks and predicts the total future eradication of Capital (As all Anarchists do and as Bakunin demanded), if find it ridiculous to be compared to Marx on a David Icke forum by an anti-Communist (i.e. a Capitalist reformer), since Icke is in favour of nationalised banking, which is after all the agenda of all Marxist / Leninists.

Capitalism cannot and must not be reformed; it must be abolished, through apocalyptic war if necessary.

The Capitalists and Capitalist reformers will be unable to negiotate with unseen enemies who have the moral resolve and the simple military means to nuke them back to their father hell where they belong.

In Christendom (the elite Capitalist nations) you have an limited time for a 'politically correct' revolution; the penalty for failure will be the total destruction of Christendom.

On a day and an hour when expected least, like a theif in the night, on the clouds of heaven, great and terrible and dreadful and wrathful shall be the fall of Christendom.


LL
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Lux.

[goanna]

no, david isnt an anti semite....




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[zero1]

No, I say David Icke is not a Jew-hater. Neither am I, for that matter.

Though what the phrase "anti-Semite" has to do with Jew-hating, given Lucifer's essay, is debatable.

OP is also almost exactly the same essay as - On The Jewish Problem. On Zion. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65233)

[luciferhorus]

no, david isnt an anti semite....

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I posted that essay since a couple of years ago there was a documentary on British TV accusing him of being anti-Semitic, and interviewing numerous people including the anti-Defamation league who consider him to be anti-Semitic; there are also a number of Internet site which repeat this accusation

You can find numerous articles repeating this accusation on:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=david%20icke%20anti%20semite&hl=en&emb=0&sa=N&tab=vw

The 48 minute video can be watched on http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4578459371649519263&ei=wXEYSpKIDcWK-QatzqTsBQ&q=david+icke+anti+semite&hl=en

(The Secret Rulers of the World - David Icke - Reptiles and Jews.wmv )

My essay here argues that the 'Jewish Banking Elites' such as the Rothschild banking dynasty, whom Icke commonly attacks are not Semites, but the descendents of European converts and that many of these European Jews are in fact anti-Semites who despise the Arabs (who are Semites).

Another issue is that David has a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on his site and that he refers to it in his writings.

The Protocols are generally considered to have been 'proven' to be a forgery, and anti-Jewish propaganda; however fact they have never been 'proven' to be a forgery; and I am willing to explain this further if challenged.


The alleged origin of the Protocols is the Mizraim Masonic Lodge in Paris and they contain the alleged speeches of a Masonic Master who speaks of taking over the world through the banking system, ending the gold standard, controlling paper money, infiltrating the media, setting up puppet presidents in all nations, infiltrating all political parties etc, and in fact of this seems to have occured since the protocols were published.

If the Protocols are designed to inspire hatred of the Jews, they certainly give the impression that they would rather inspire hatred of the Masons, though they do make the case that the Masons are controlled by the Jewish banking elites, and that what the Protocols refer to as 'Goyim (Heb: cattle) ' Masons are simply expendible useful idiots who will be exposed of in time.

Since A: Masons are Solomonic Temple cultists whose alleged origins go back to the high priest and architect of Solomon's Temple (Hiram Abiff / Secret King) and it is a Kabbalistic cult; B: Most non Jewish Masons seem to be totally unaware of the Israelite and Kabbalistic nature of their cult; the thesis that non Jewish Masons are simply useful idiots is thus a position which seems rather obvious to me.

Addendum(Edit)


The most common critique of the Protocols is that they are a plagarism of Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu

You can read the entire of Jolly's satire here: http://www.notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html

If you read both texts you will see that they have a very similar theme, Jolly's satire consists of 25 dialogues and the Protocols of 24.



And you can read the Protocols here: http://www.shoaheducation.com/protocols.html

Lux

Consider also:

He (Icke) openly endorsed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Tsarist anti-Semitic forgery that informed Hitler's notion of a global Jewish conspiracy.'

"The following year Icke brought out another book, '..and the truth shall set you free.' This one, however, was self-published, as its content was so objectionable that his publisher refused to have it printed. And small wonder. The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were true, and went on to state: 'I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War....They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament.'

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/01/a_warning_about.html

For more vitriol, see also:

David Icke And The Politics Of Madness: Where The New Age Meets The Third Reich

http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm

[zero1]

I posted that essay since a couple of years ago there was a documentary on British TV accusing him of being anti-Semitic, and interviewing numerous people including the anti-Defamation league who consider him to be anti-Semitic; there are also a number of Internet site which repeat this accusation

You can find numerous articles repeating this accusation on:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=david%20icke%20anti%20semite&hl=en&emb=0&sa=N&tab=vw

The 48 minute video can be watched on http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4578459371649519263&ei=wXEYSpKIDcWK-QatzqTsBQ&q=david+icke+anti+semite&hl=en

(The Secret Rulers of the World - David Icke - Reptiles and Jews.wmv )

My essay here argues that the 'Jewish Banking Elites' such as the Rothschild banking dynasty, whom Icke commonly attacks are not Semites, but the descendents of European converts and that many of these European Jews are in fact anti-Semites who despise the Arabs (who are Semites).

Another issue is that David has a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on his site and that he refers to it in his writings.

The Protocols are generally considered to have been 'proven' to be a forgery, and anti-Jewish propaganda; however fact they have never been 'proven' to be a forgery; and I am willing to explain this further if challenged.

The alleged origin of the Protocols is the Mizraim Masonic Lodge in Paris and they contain the alleged speeches of a Masonic Master who speaks of taking over the world through the banking system, ending the gold standard, controlling paper money, infiltrating the media, setting up puppet presidents in all nations, infiltrating all political parties etc, and in fact of this seems to have occured since the protocols were published.

If the Protocols are designed to inspire hatred of the Jews, they certainly give the impression that they would rather inspire hatred of the Masons, though they do make the case that the Masons are controlled by the Jewish banking elites, and that what the Protocols refer to as 'Goyim (Heb: cattle) ' Masons are simply expendible useful idiots who will be exposed of in time.

Since A: Masons are Solomonic Temple cultists whose alleged origins go back to the high priest and architect of Solomon's Temple (Hiram Abiff / Secret King) and it is a Kabbalistic cult; B: Most non Jewish Masons seem to be totally unaware of the Israelite and Kabbalistic nature of their cult; the thesis that non Jewish Masons are simply useful idiots is thus a position which seems rather obvious to me.

Lux

Consider also:

He (Icke) openly endorsed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Tsarist anti-Semitic forgery that informed Hitler's notion of a global Jewish conspiracy.'

"The following year Icke brought out another book, '..and the truth shall set you free.' This one, however, was self-published, as its content was so objectionable that his publisher refused to have it printed. And small wonder. The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were true, and went on to state: 'I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War....They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament.'

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/01/a_warning_about.html

For more vitriol, see also:

David Icke And The Politics Of Madness: Where The New Age Meets The Third Reich

http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm

Two things, if I may;

Although as you say, Commandante, the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion may never have been proven a forgery, it has always seemed to me that the official Court (no doubt Masonic) which found them to be a 'forgery' were saying-not-saying that they were real - because for a forgery to exist, then there must be an original, source material upon which it is based, so it may be that the Protocols as we know them (and freely available on the 'Net) are in fact diluted or edited or altered forms of a source document which is legitimately a manifesto for world domination.

Second, accusations against Icke of "anti-Semitism" always stem from the suspicion that when Icke refers to 'Reptilians' being behind the Conspiracy, he actually means Jews. He himself has denied this, however, and apparently literally means extra-dimensional Reptilian/Draconian beings - not humans of any kind.

Love & Light to you, brother

Zero

[luciferhorus]

Two things, if I may;

Although as you say, Commandante, the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion may never have been proven a forgery, it has always seemed to me that the official Court (no doubt Masonic) which found them to be a 'forgery' were saying-not-saying that they were real - because for a forgery to exist, then there must be an original, source material upon which it is based, so it may be that the Protocols as we know them (and freely available on the 'Net) are in fact diluted or edited or altered forms of a source document which is legitimately a manifesto for world domination.

Second, accusations against Icke of "anti-Semitism" always stem from the suspicion that when Icke refers to 'Reptilians' being behind the Conspiracy, he actually means Jews. He himself has denied this, however, and apparently literally means extra-dimensional Reptilian/Draconian beings - not humans of any kind.

Love & Light to you, brother

Zero


Yes Zero, if you watch the actual video, you will find that a central accusation against Icke is that when he says 'reptiles' he really means Jews, which I find to be a rather ridiculous argument.

I have been debating on Nazi sites in the past and the Internet is full of Nazis and far rightists who are entirely and overtly anti-Jewish; there are also debaters of this ilk here on this forum such as the Christian 'Miracles' who has a habit of spouting his anti-Jewish nonsense on the Religious forum and seems to assume that the Talmud represents the beliefs of the current Jewish generation. If David Icke was anti-Jewish I think he would have said so by now, but in fact he claims to be an anti-racist and I take his word for it, since the Internet is full of people who clearly 'are' racist and I can tell the difference.

Back to the Protocols.

If you compare Jolly's satire http://www.notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html with the actual Protocols http://www.shoaheducation.com/protocols.html, you find a similar theme.

Joly however was satirising Napoleon and Joly actually ended up in prison for his written attack on the Emperor. There is no question that both works have a similar theme, too much to be coincidental in my opinion, but this does not prove a 'forgery' as such; it may well be that the Protocols are a similar satire, but satire is not comedy; it is way of criticising an enemy, just as many of the great comedians are political satirists.

For example the great and late political satist George Carlin's attacks on religion and politics are quite serious attacks based on the ridiculousness of his religious and political enemies.

Similarly I think the Protocols may just be a work of Satire, but a satire based upon a certain truth; further it is the case that many of the predictions of this satire have indeed come to pass. Imagine if today we might write a satire where some Capitalist devil speaks about taking over the world and what his strategy is; in fact it may well address certain truths about the strategy of the International Capitalists.

Love and Light

Lux

[zero1]

If you compare Jolly's satire http://www.notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html with the actual Protocols http://www.shoaheducation.com/protocols.html, you find a similar theme.

Interesting, I shall read them through.

Similarly I think the Protocols may just be a work of Satire, but a satire based upon a certain truth; further it is the case that many of the predictions of this satire have indeed come to pass. Imagine if today we might write a satire where some Capitalist devil speaks about taking over the world and what his strategy is; in fact it may well address certain truths about the strategy of the International Capitalists.

Love and Light

Lux

Emphasis added.

A Black Comedy, indeed...

LL,

Z1

[paolo]

Stuff Lucifer Horus. From his very name he can't be trusted however much stuff he puts up
Bakunin lifted his violent material wholesale from Weishaupt
And old Luc still seems to be pushing this agenda
Still ignore it, it is a kind of anarchism we need without the go-between of Marxism and all those evil Zionists, Jew or non-Jew
It's a whole diversion
The basis is non-violent and the cue is coming very soon