Beacon of hope. (I hope)

[herebynightfall]

Is it just me, or..

Ha, that phrase seems to be oh so popular throughout this forum.
I like to hear it as often as I do. It's a reassurance that I'm not the only one who thinks they have good ideas, or caught something important that no one else did. It always brightens my mood.

With that being said.

Is it just me (LOL) or does anybody else want to let the people of the world know how we feel. Want to SHOW them our perspectives.

Let the victims in the 'middle east' know that it is not us that wants to harm them in anyway, and in fact actually help them.

We have an obligation I think. To send out beacons of hope to them.

Let them know that we feel their pain. And let them know that we ourselves wish nothing more than PEACE. And that we are as sucked into this system as they are, though sadly they happen to be on the more rotten side of this bollocks puppet show.

They must be so out of touch with the true nature of reality, with all of the fear and distress that the Illuminati plague them with 24/7/365

Let them know that we're shedding at least a single tear, if not balling for them. Let them know that our military is misled into believing they are there for the better of our own country.

For our country chooses to believe that oblong box in the corner of the room.
That shouts at us that "Without us having gone there and slaughtered them, they would have come here and 'terrorized' us with high scale attacks" And they made us each personally fear terrorism.

Let us reach out to them. Via videos, webcasts, etc. Let us get into the mainstream media I say, but do not do so in such a manner that they can turn it around on you saying "this person is just an extreme liberalist hippie"

NO we will not stand to have this happen anymore. Not under our watch.

WE must let them know that it is possible to have the mindset of Mr. David Icke on the fact that. If the "leaders" of our nations have such a quarrel with eachother, throw them in a bloody room and let them duke it out.

Because our fight is not that of these global elitist. And they have the rights to know.

Love always.

[synergy777]

well said.as for the libralist hippy, stuff tahst easily overcome. all we need is suit,tie, bbc english, and their paperwork !. paperwork such as eg pnac, agenda 21, morals and dogma/pikes letter, fed reserve act, maritame law, treaties regarding political/economic unification eg treaty of rome etc.

also we could use religous texts eg revelations, if they argued, well it puts them in a catch 22. also add to this the remarks made by the elite about globalisation/nwo, which there are loads of, well it adds weight/gravitas to the tin foil delusion.

there more than enough evidence, its overwhelming.

the creator need qc's, scientist, clerics etc, a multiskilled taskforce.

[synergy777]

what we need is NWO DOSSIER, lol

[soglad]

Yes! That's it!

I was talking with a friend yesterday about the whole Northern American Union and telling him it's on the drawing board and almost being put into action, and he wouldn't believe me. I kept on telling him that all three countries are openly discussing it, and he wouldn't believe that Canada would ever join. He has Canadian family and knows what the people are like, but I swiftly reminded him the the will of the politician never reflects the will of the people, never. He still disagreed, then I pointed out Iraq. Nobody wanted it. The people protested, the UN gave out, there was social upheaval, but that didn't matter because the only thing that mattered was the will of the politician.

I agree with you 100% herebynightfall. Our voice is seldom heard! The news readers of Sky News, CNN and Fox are not the representation of the people. They don't talk about how I feel! It's like some type of alternate reality that I think must exist somewhere else, but I know it doesn't.

This has me thinking, what could we do? How can we break the mask of politicians we wear to show our smile and true knowing oneness with them? As long as the political mask is there, the politicians will frown for us, and we'll be dragged along under its guise.

I wonder if we could get some Iraqi people to print out leaflets of how we feel about them TRULY. We the people need our say. They could be distrobuted throughout the Middle East. We could make YouTube videos and get loads of people to click the "I Like It!" button on StumbleUpon to get more views.

We've been silent for too long.

[synergy777]

Add To The Dossier Bro, Then We Will Edit It Into Nice Package, Upload It, And Give People Free Downloads, Voila. Then Post It Every Forum You Can Think Off. I Watched That Programme On Bbc 2 Last Night Proof, (same Director As Spooks), Then I Thought, Ah Feck It, Lets Do It. See If We Give Them Official Reports With A Little Bit Of Esoteric Stuff, Then Well, Hopefully They Can Wake Up, Empower Themselves.

[herebynightfall]

thanks for the support soglad.

yeah i was thinking about gathering some iraqi-americans or even people of other nationalities from nations that are suffering as well. and voice the truth of our opinions in their native languages. and not twist it like our, and their media do so well.

to be honest i'm tired from sitting back and talking about action from us people.

US PEOPLE. US CONCIOUSNESS. US ONENESS.

we are the hope for now. let's get the bloody snowball rolling people.

like in v for vendetta.

david was our V.

let us be V for others.

with liberty and justice for all.

LOL and synergy.. to be honest that all sounds like jargon to me.
seems like you really know your paperwork and we need people like you to stick it to them where it hurts. which is where they let you go. and work this system from the inside.
i'll look into all of these theoretical catch 22's

thanks

[soglad]

I think we should organize something.

How's about writing up a big post and just copy and paste it to various forums?

We should each write a bit about something then verify it to each other and hopefully portray a good massage?

[herebynightfall]

do you know of any forums that this would take good effect in. soglad.

i suppose you mean getting translators (in part)

also i'm not too keen on subscribing to too many websites on the WWW
other forums that i won't participate in so much don't seem like a great idea to start with.

p.s.
ya know i just thought about it. if we can get in touch with these middle eastern countries. iraq specifically i suppose. wow we might be able to do some damage in the matrix. cause a riff if you would. lol

it's all about how we go about it. and wording everything just about perfectly.

[synergy777]

we need to something like collect the stuff they can't dispute. i have started a thread the dossier, in ode to dr kelly. so paste some stuff, actions speak louder than words. if we all do what we can do, play to our strengths, a multi media strategy, all of us have talents, its about teamwork.

we all know why they killed dr kelly, because he knew wmd was a scam, do the masses give a shit, nope, do they care that diana got killed, nope, we need to do it.

[soglad]

Yes well it is an effective method that is within our immediate grasp. I use various Irish forums and all one needs to do is a Google search. I have no problem in registering repeatedly as this message is very important.

[herebynightfall]

if you'll notice i edited my last post a bit.

yeah i'm good with some multi-media.

i'm not going to college (as david says ...thank bloody god)

but i suppose you can say that i 'majored' in video production, in highschool

i'd be more than happy to make a video using good visuals and audio and try to speak for the people as we really feel.

hit some hard topics. if you could give me some ideas it'd be great.

if nothing else i will work on for a couple weeks. and master a video that will be enough for the public to catch onto... like on youtube which is pretty dumbed down at the moment.

well see.. yeah ur right actions louder than words. depending on how you word it though hahaha

[synergy777]

youtube, myspace are great ways of exposure, i have put some ideas on the dossier thread, good luck.

[truthseeker1980]

Very good idea, but also...

I was thinking last night that we should all start recording the news, let's say each major news channel, BBC News24, Sky News, CNN and any others.

The reason for this is because they actually run stories with evidence about their plans, for example I remember the BBC ran a report back in 2000 about how dangerous aspartame is, does anyone remember this other than me?

NO.

I have so many arguements with unawakened people, they always ask for proof, normally i explain that it was on the news, but then i have not got the tape to prove it.

About 3 months ago there was a report about street bollards in Holland which have had microphones installed, so the CCTV monitors can also hear what people are talking about. I watched it with my flatmate he even commented, but asked him last week if he remembered and he said he had no idea what i was talking about. If I had, had a tape of the news, then it would have been easier. It's almost as if they are all brainwashed not to remember things, but they deliberately give the clues in the news.

They also had a report about x-ray camera's being installed on the UK streets, but no-one remembers that report either. If i had a tape.

Would also stop the info disappearing like the strange case of the BBC report on the WTC building 7, footage which the BBC somehow managed to loose and then delete from inboxes.

Only thing is, i don't have a VCR anymore or DVD recorder. So will have to go and get a second hand VCR this weekend.

[synergy777]

It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host

[herebynightfall]

i'm gunna be gathering info and media based on what you said synergy777 and whats in my head. love the dossier thread.

as i was doing this though. i was thinking.

if enough people back us on this. and it is so politically correct in terms that i'm sure you could put it in...

i must be dreaming now but couldnt we send this message and many more, out to places like iran, iraq, and all of these predestined hot spots of the world. because if we did, and the general public knew about it. and we proclaimed OUR peace, no matter what the actions of 'our leaders in government' do or say to their 'leaders in government'

a message of... don't attack us (even though we know that You, the concious people of the nations don't want to) and we will help you back on your feet. help you learn our ways of thinking and why our actions have led to what they have, as we would love to learn about your way of thinking and understand how you as well have been suppressed by these elitist. should you choose to make this pact from one peoples nation to another.

government with us or not. because if our gov'ts are against us on that note than they are no governments of ours to represent us

lol sorry about the rant... just venting but hey its a dream of mine

ha i've gone myspace with this idea.

working hard to bring you guys something to cheer about.

it's just a ride anyway.

love always.:rolleyes:

[i_am]

it's just a ride anyway.

love always.:rolleyes:

another Bill Hicks fan :p We have a lot here.

If only we had a Bill Hicks now! Someone to tell it like it is, without fear or favour.

[herebynightfall]

my head is very unclear at the moment.

i'm trying to gather all types of information and media, for this idea for a video that a few of us on this thread have.

thinkers block :*P

love always.

[reptileslayer]

Is it just me, or..

Ha, that phrase seems to be oh so popular throughout this forum.
I like to hear it as often as I do. It's a reassurance that I'm not the only one who thinks they have good ideas, or caught something important that no one else did. It always brightens my mood.

With that being said.

Is it just me (LOL) or does anybody else want to let the people of the world know how we feel. Want to SHOW them our perspectives.

Let the victims in the 'middle east' know that it is not us that wants to harm them in anyway, and in fact actually help them.

We have an obligation I think. To send out beacons of hope to them.

Let them know that we feel their pain. And let them know that we ourselves wish nothing more than PEACE. And that we are as sucked into this system as they are, though sadly they happen to be on the more rotten side of this bollocks puppet show.

They must be so out of touch with the true nature of reality, with all of the fear and distress that the Illuminati plague them with 24/7/365

Let them know that we're shedding at least a single tear, if not balling for them. Let them know that our military is misled into believing they are there for the better of our own country.

For our country chooses to believe that oblong box in the corner of the room.
That shouts at us that "Without us having gone there and slaughtered them, they would have come here and 'terrorized' us with high scale attacks" And they made us each personally fear terrorism.

Let us reach out to them. Via videos, webcasts, etc. Let us get into the mainstream media I say, but do not do so in such a manner that they can turn it around on you saying "this person is just an extreme liberalist hippie"

NO we will not stand to have this happen anymore. Not under our watch.

WE must let them know that it is possible to have the mindset of Mr. David Icke on the fact that. If the "leaders" of our nations have such a quarrel with eachother, throw them in a bloody room and let them duke it out.

Because our fight is not that of these global elitist. And they have the rights to know.

Love always.I like this post herebynightfall, thankyou for sharing it with us all.

[john white]

Great thread

my head is very unclear at the moment.

i'm trying to gather all types of information and media, for this idea for a video that a few of us on this thread have.

thinkers block :*P

love always.

OK, well lets identify priorities:

1) Identify where we can deliver this message to

(message boards etc in relevant countries)

2) Identify what we'd like to say

(Add thoughts to this thread and start to synthesise them)

[mk72]

I don't know what you guys think but I think an important target for this message should be guys in the army or planning on going, maybe at the level where they are recruiting people - they're biggest strenght is in the army -especially Britain and America. Without their armies they are less powerfull

[john white]

I have something to contribute to this thread:

This manifested over the course of Today:

To UNIFY The Three Religions
Judaism, Christianity and Islam
And all of the people
Within
Recognise that all Three
Validate each other:
For as they share
The same foundation
All Three
Must Be
Sound

I wondered if this decoding is a suitable message for us to send into the Middle East area?

Or might at least be the basis for the idea for a message?

[john white]

Keeping this Beacon Lit! :)

[herebynightfall]

Sort of an explanation of this thread.
Or an explanation of my reasoning for starting it rather.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6193

Thanks again for the support. I want action done. But I keep getting head aches thinking about it.

[synergy777]

john, the three a-braham-ic religions, are the same religion. its like old/new testament. judaism, was corrected by christianity, christinity corrected by islam. which is why these three religions have been used in all main global conflicts. they are people of the book.

abraham is from brahman, remember in the old days they used to add/swap letters. just look at old english names that been changed eg roman spelling, anglo saxon spelling.

[synergy777]

http://www.muat.co.uk/index.asp

QUOTE
Peace upon all those who seek the truth

Peace and welcome to Muslims United Against Terrorism (MUAT). This site is here to demonstrate that the religion of Islam stands against terrorism in all it's forms, be it acts performed by Individuals or the state against civilians unable to defend themselves. MUAT condemns outright all attrocities committed in the name of religion be it Christianity, Islam, Judiasm or any other religion or faith. Our aim is to demonstrate that the original religion of Islam is the religion for the love of others rather than hate.

MUAT wants to make it clear to all Muslims and Non-Muslims alike that the Islam of the Prophet Mohammed and his Progeny (peace be upon them all) bears no relation to the extremist and anti-Islamic idealogy of groups such as Al-Qaeda. Not only do we denounce and condemn such criminal groups but we also wish to show our solidarity with all those who share the same respect for human life as we do. We wish to show our solidarity with all people who have suffered the impacts of terrorism be it in New York, London or Baghdad. We also wish to inform others that many thousand Muslims have lost their lives due to attrocities committed by criminal terrorist groups around the world. The most well known and publicised example of this is in Iraq where 100s of Muslims are killed on a daily basis.

"People are of two kinds: Either your brothers in faith or your equals in humanity" - Imam Ali (pbuh)

"To make peace between two individuals (in comparison) is worthier than one's entire prayers and fastings."

"Live amongst people in such a manner that if you die they weep over you and if you are alive they crave for your company." this is why hijab, tribal laws, etc are not religion, but man made laws, oral law like talmud, tribal customs.

"If you are greeted then return the greetings more warmly. If you are favoured, then repay the obligation manifold; but he who takes the initiative will always excel in merit."

"The best deed of a great man is to forgive and forget."

[john white]

john, the three a-braham-ic religions, are the same religion. its like old/new testament. judaism, was corrected by christianity, christinity corrected by islam. which is why these three religions have been used in all main global conflicts. they are people of the book.

abraham is from brahman, remember in the old days they used to add/swap letters. just look at old english names that been changed eg roman spelling, anglo saxon spelling.

Of course Syn, absolutely of course: I know my post above is rather simplistic (I was thinking of a message that needs to be simple!)

So if a majority of Christians, Jews and Muslims came to consciously understand that they all share the same religion, what would the effects for global peace be?

judaism, was corrected by christianity, christinity corrected by islam.

I've come to look at it slightly differently: Judaism was expanded by Christianity, Christianity was expanded by Islam (and the whole faith has started to be unified by Bahai's)

Of course, it’s just a map: I know that personal gnosis is a real path: oh boy, how I know!

But if the map can be cleared up and redone in a nice easy to read version, what a benefit that would be! I have come to believe that doing so is a necessary step in Global Healing

Religion is there to help those who choose it, not enslave them: although mans ego has been only to keen to enslave itself. If ALL Religion's did not have within them a valid path to God consciousness, the illuminati would have no need of manipulating it

[lifeofbrian]

Religion is there to help those who choose it, not enslave them: although mans ego has been only to keen to enslave itself. If ALL Religion's did not have within them a valid path to God consciousness, the illuminati would have no need of manipulating it

Funny. The desert demons who wanted to be "God" are excellent strategists.

They know how to create a mock opposition to strengthen their own position.

Are you still falling for it?

[john white]

Funny. The desert demons who wanted to be "God" are excellent strategists.

They know how to create a mock opposition to strengthen their own position.

Are you still falling for it?

And are "desert demons" not also part of the ONE?

don't get me worng, I've done years of researching and I don't own any "sacred Cows" and I also fully endorse Icke's "Snow Ploughing" to create a space where everything can be looked at anew

But what's next? Does saying "Your all deluded by desert demons" to the Worlds 2 billion or so Jews, Christians and Muslims actually help to progress the overall situation at all?

I can see it helps you, and its helped me, but my intent is bent to the question:

"Moving towards a Healed World: whats the next step? what perceptions need to be grounded and earthed to move the situation along?"

[lifeofbrian]

And are "desert demons" not also part of the ONE?

don't get me worng, I've done years of researching and I don't own any "sacred Cows" and I also fully endorse Icke's "Snow Ploughing" to create a space where everything can be looked at anew

But what's next? Does saying "Your all deluded by desert demons" to the Worlds 2 billion or so Jews, Christians and Muslims actually help to progress the overall situation at all?

I can see it helps you, and its helped me, but my intent is bent to the question:

"Moving towards a Healed World: whats the next step? what perceptions need to be grounded and earthed to move the situation along?"

Demons are not part of "the One", no. Unless you mean That One - the master of this world.

"Looked at anew"? How many years do you have at your disposal? 500,000?

"What perceptions need to be grounded and earthed to move the situation along"?

Well, first of all you root out and expose the lies. No truth can be built on lies.

[john white]

Well the Unity of Abrahamic Religions is a definate truth, so we are on good lines there

[herebynightfall]

keepin this alive

love

[herebynightfall]

keepin this alive

love always.

and be..

just be.

[herebynightfall]

i am . are you ?

live, thread, live !

[herebynightfall]

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[mountain]

I think it would be great if someone could translate a message in Arabic, and then send it around but I have a feeling that most of the civilians there KNOW the truth and experienced first hand that the leaders are the perps!

I am pretty sure that they feel our compassion as we feel theirs.

[malvern]

should we just send the words


love and freedom

or tell them the truth, there lucky.... the NWO is trying to push there will apon them, over here the NWO will rules.




freedom for all:)