View Full Version : David's take on the money system.
herebynightfall
12-07-2007, 09:10 AM
Okay bear with me. I'm new to this wonderful forum.
---Well it seems I'm not the only who's having trouble coping with being a free soul in this systematic world. I'm glad you all are sharing this burden with me as we try and break through this massive deception. Just thought I'd say that.---
I started this thread though. Because I remember reading a while back somewhere about David's point of view on how he thinks our "monetary" system should be. At least once we awake as a whole people and realize that there's been such a rubbish way of going about money these past few decades, or centuries rather.
I was wondering if we could talk here about that if anybody else can recall what I'm thinking of.
And also maybe start some topics of how else various lifestyles and systems that we've grown accustomed to and content with will have to change or be abolished completely once this awakening occurs. I'm sure we will still need leadership and a new system. Or it will be anarchy for the worse if there is not. Considering the massive population that is Man.
food for thought.
Anders Lindman
12-07-2007, 10:00 AM
My guess is that the problem is that the banking pyramid is constantly, minute by minute, sucking huge amounts of money in the form of interest to the top of the banking pyramid. That in itself is not I believe a problem. The problem is that the banking elite don't have to make much value-creating contributions to society in order to get their money. Money is almost automatically just sucked up into the pockets of a tiny banking elite.
I'm not saying that the banking elite are not working hard. They are probably working their asses off in order to uphold this simplistic and utterly mindless automatic sucking up of interest created from an ever increasing debt. With a bit smarter administration of the money flow in society, a more efficient and INTELLIGENT monetary system would be possible.
The banks at the top of the pyramid are like age-old huge dinosaurs, no doubt very efficient in what they do, and have done for ages, but the lack of any form of sophisticated administration has turned them into stupid debt-creating and interest-eating monsters.
11kushna11
12-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Good post, and an issue that plagues me constantly.
We know that the monetary system is corrupt and we know that, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't really work. A currency for trade based on nothing but invisible debt is a ludicrous way to live, and yet we're all born to slave towards the accumulation of what is essentially nothing.
It doesn't have to be like that. We can trade commodities, skills, knowledge, labour and it would encourage us all to do positive things for the community around us instead of working to pay for somebody richer than you just to scrape rent every month. It would require impetus and motivation on the part of the people to keep the system going, but ultimately trade is the only system there should be. Sadly that would mean far too much power for the people.
reptilianshapeshifter
12-07-2007, 10:30 AM
I read the comments David made about macro-economies and that we should trade labour instead of money and use points system so we can use that to buy services instead.
While it's a great idea on the whole, isn't that what we call money? The same situation would only end up as it is today. People with services that no one wants won't have any money, people with services who are worth more than others will accumulate more tickets to purchase other serivces and goods with. People will counterfeit service tickets and on it goes. Right back to where we started.
There are far to many people in the world to make an economy work this way but it might work between a group of people select people to make our daily bills cheaper.
I mean, most of us already have some kind of system like this in place with our friends? A favour for a favour.
Unfortunately, human nature shows that people fall out, people get greedy, people don't return the favours and then "real life" will get in the way when your plumber can't find time to help you out on the ticket system because he has to go and work in the real world to pay the bills.
Interesting idea for folk that are decent and trustworthy but never going to work on the whole, is it?
umbrex
12-07-2007, 11:01 AM
Reinstall silverbacked currency and make it forbidden to use a government system based on credits..
Why do u care about Icke's view on the monetary system ?
What's your view ?
Maybe dig up some info and form your own oppinion :) ?
stikmata
12-07-2007, 11:29 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2274614016843026486&q=gettin+it&total=9074&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
pay special attention to the line at :49-:51
and of course the chorus is what hit me immediately when reading this thread
Anders Lindman
12-07-2007, 01:11 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2274614016843026486&q=gettin+it&total=9074&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
pay special attention to the line at :49-:51
and of course the chorus is what hit me immediately when reading this thread
Subliminal!
Anders Lindman
12-07-2007, 01:15 PM
We need to upgrade from monetary system 1.0 to monetary system 2.0. The fastest and most efficient way of doing this is to keep the whole shebang and just make the management of it a bit smarter.
stikmata
12-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Subliminal!
buy now everyone should recognize that right off the bat... however, weather they decide to buy consciously or if they make their purchase through subconscious influence, there's no denying that Too$hort is one of the most well known rappers from the yay area and that i'm using well known manipulative tactics in this post. Buy you some, ninja.
Anders Lindman
12-07-2007, 01:28 PM
buy now everyone should recognize that right off the bat... however, weather they decide to buy consciously or if they make their purchase through subconscious influence, there's no denying that Too$hort is one of the most well known rappers from the yay area and that i'm using well known manipulative tactics in this post. Buy you some, ninja.
I listened to the song and didn't notice the subliminal. Only when I did rewind and play that part again did I notice it. :eek:
stikmata
12-07-2007, 01:42 PM
I listened to the song and didn't notice the subliminal. Only when I did rewind and play that part again did I notice it. :eek:
it's not really subliminal dude... it's pretty blatant... if there were any points of reference in my post, it would be WAY more subliminal than that song.... which isn't very subliminal at all.
Anders Lindman
12-07-2007, 06:25 PM
it's not really subliminal dude... it's pretty blatant... if there were any points of reference in my post, it would be WAY more subliminal than that song.... which isn't very subliminal at all.
Yet for me it was subliminal. I am aware of how subliminals work and how they can be used and still I didn't consciously registered it the first time I listened to the song. I wonder how many other things I listen to that contain similar things. I suspect that very few people are actually able to spot inserted messages like that, and then it can be called subliminal advertising.
cruise4
12-07-2007, 08:14 PM
A fair money system to replace the extortion racket we have now is possible I think. Rather than repeat post here, check this thread at NineEleven.co.uk:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=9890&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
herebynightfall
06-11-2007, 12:42 AM
It's been a few months... Bump!