kimball13
06-04-2009, 11:17 PM
kinda like the first earth battalion or the trojan warrior project,,,,,,,,,,,then the ever famouse dan brown types and cohorts trying to jump into the next great forms of plagerism,,,,,,,,,,but then maybe just because i knew of first earth battalion and the trojan warrior project far before there being published doesnt say anything does it? Then there is a real phenomenom of two people learning the same lesson at the same time and working on it, bu this is rare and it is also a reason why allot of plagiarists get away with there copy catting.
There is nothing wrong with emulateing and building upon, but allot of them want the credit for greedy purpose and prestige and this is where the evil festers in these things. All to often the real originator of bodys of work is left in some corner plugging away at his passion to busy to even try to become popular and then some idiot comes along and plagerises it,,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i know this well its happend to me over and over again and ive lost track of allot of things,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya but they kept telling me that i should not expect or want any recognition or reward, i kept saying i have no problem with that my problem is with the influence others are gaining and missuseing what i am uncovering...............pagiarism can be very dangerous to the people that follow one, this became very much a reality on 911, a few things leading up to it and what has happend after. It became very clear that someone jumpstarted his carrear with my work and ttried to destroy any further future, it also became apparent that a few others felt the same, in other words i had leachs in a sense, fcking parasites, but then let just what has happend since 1997 as well as let me see, Oboma, Blagovich, new paper payoffs, wallst, and a few blurbs in govermental fopas and millitary scadals, as well as a whole gamit of things all to coverup the fact that there are allot of plagerists now adays that have built little empires on a lie.
plagerists tend to have a look good motif, where as the originals tend to be a bit original, they have what is called character which seems to be frowned upon now adays unless you a sex object and develop a new look good for others to emulate and get laid.
i should stop now because i could realy go on about the damage copy catting does and the difference between plagiarism and emulating, ya imitation is the highest form of flattery, and as it is written do not flatter your brother because it is like laying a net before his feat, you see the teachings of the elders is layered/multidimensional,,,,,,,,,,,,so emulate or imitate which path do you choose,,,,,,,,,,,,kinda like the difference between victorian houses and track/prefab housing.
But it also explains why ive felt the way about certain people like Kennedy and King,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what about Roosevelt or Obama, oh ya they are original.
this thread reminds me of a type of thing some people do and use as a type of mantra, they say that if you say it 3 times it is yours, sounds dangerous to me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is that why the lack of accountability, when it goes wrong is that why there is never a solution accept war because there is no plagiarism in death, scary huh. Think of it this way it always escalates, the originator has to keep creating to live and can only be release from the plagiarists chains if the plagiarist is dead because it is the plagiarist that has the fame and fortune from taking the credit so sooner or later it builds up almost like a collective over time then large groups begin to rebel and from this the herd becomes thinned because only those that can think on there feat survive the onslaught of the peoples wrath and questions, the other problem here is allot of good creators are caught in the peoples wrath because in any kindof warfare there is innocent blood shed whether it be intellectual or physical(and there is another subject, the difference between intellectual, spiritual, physical blood),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i do hope i made my thoughts on this subject as simple as possible, i know i think things in the extreme, but hay i can look at it as a mouse or an eagle(lakota teachings).
kimball13
09-04-2009, 08:34 PM
What kind of work do you do that has been plagerised Kimball13?
i have only advised and consulted mostly:o i used to be somewhat involved in cult retrieval,,,,,,,,,,,i grew up around xxxxxxxxxxx, i am a bit ashamed of some of what has bin plagiarized of mine because i was unaware of what was being done with it,,,,,,,,,,,,,it was a shocker when something i was working on in the mid-90's became published by xxxxxxxxxxxxx
So maybe plagerizm isnt the correct term for what has happend to me since i was a boy,,,,,,,,,,,think of a show like Pretender, now consider this as a boy i was basicly put in the field, ya the rumors of the children of some soldiers being considerd as goverment property is very true,,,,,,,,but in my case this was also extended to corprate,,,,,,,,around 2000 i began conversing with another consultant of official stature, our conversations included something called remote influenceing, something i knew about for sometime already, it was one of those things that i would remember then it would just become one of those memories just under the surface, he spoke more of remote veiwing as to were i was more of and influencer,,,,,,,,so anyeways i began having long conversations as well as contirbuting to possible advancements in protecting people,,,,,then 911 hit and my life realy became interesting,,,,,,,,,,includeing hitchicking trips and being picked up by airforce and driven a couple hundred miles a coupleof times, or falling asleep in an airport in denver and waking up next to a submariner(navy),,,,,then there is the fire wall trojan horse attack on the LA water supply that i helped solve,,,,,,,,,,so maybe its not plagerism, it might be called a more advanced form of slavery,,,,,,,,,it is very complicated,,,,,,,,,,,you see i have this almost like breathing urge to solve social architectural problems,,,,,,,,,,and to tell you the truth this building is very unsafe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,anyways the answer to that question is very complicated, you see i took my gifts for granted and just did what was infront of me, so for a while i tought, helped, and performed native american cerimonial vision quests and other cerimonys,,,,,,,,,,i never realy thought much about all of the retired millitary types i have bin around most of my life,,,,,,,but after 911 i noticed to many ex-marines/Masons mixed with cold war types, i also noticed how they would learn more from me than they, there was allot of a type of guilt trip learn from them tactic used to become more mature and get my emotional turmoil under control,,,,,,,,,,,,but as time went on my suspitions grew,,,,,,,,especialy after i noticed that i have moved my whole life about once a year for over 30 years and each time i left note books and such behind along with knowledge of how to combat manipulation and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so now that ive accepted what has happend i can only correct the missdeeds done by the missuse of knowledge, imagine if Einstein didnt know what they did with his work,,,,,,,,,,,,you see one thing ive noticed is that missuse of something potentialy dangerouse i less likely to happen if the originator of whatever is an overseer of any aplications of such knowledge,,,,,,,,,,,,
i was fooled basicly, i was learning native ways from a native yet he, his family and myself were basilcly surrounded by information gathers and such then the trap for my life being thrown into turmoil was set as well as my spiritual teacher being almost killed during a sundance(good thing i showed up in time, just like a good tokala/fire chief) ,,,,,,,,so then what happend was the whole ward churhill thing,,,,,,,,,the natives that stood behind him were basicly duped into it to set another part of the stage to tie them and my spiritual teacher and myself into a terrorist type organization even though we were not behind him,,,,,,,,,,those with Ward Churchill were bascly kinda like the ones that would be the tribal successors of myself and my teacher. but then think of it just those two names Churchill and Kimball, then the conspiracy theorists talking about an inside job maybe they are not far off.
Sorry about the long answer but it dose take some explaining due to the many facets i have found in my life,,,,but my job has basicly bin just survival,,,,,,,,,it is more the research and disoveries that ive come across that has bin stolen and used to elevate the thiefs to places of influence were there has bin great harm created, after my grandfathers death the USA Templar organization was taken over by millitary types including the millitary industrial complex, then my father died when there take over was complete becase due to his head injurie he could not fullfill the family duty, they assumed i would be harmless and easly gotten rid of if they needed, but then they forgot that i was already in my grandfathers home around 97 so those enemys of mine may have taken the physical sturcture of the Templar organization of US but i was in the process of accepting from my grandfather the spiritual,,,,,,,,,,so you see there are things that only certain people can do, maybe its genetic or spiritual or maybe both, but one thing im sure of is some of the myths of pendragons and merovingians may just be true but part of what has happened is allot of either missinfo or misdirected info entered into the system,,, maybe im what urantria calls a system buster/builder.
Im just one that is a center brain thinker in the top of abstract reasoning that refuses to be contoled and told that i dont know the out come of certain actions and decisions based on uncommon sense,,,,,,,,,that could be part of the problem is has bin to much common sense and not enough uncommon sense:) So realy im just the last in my line dirrect desendent of the first Pendragon as well as that particular line, kinda poetic considering that was way back in 5 A.D just in time to welcome Mary Magdeline:eek: oh but then she wouldnt have anyreason to go to were the Pendragons are would she, but then another interesting thing happens the Merovingians apear huh, could it be the bloodline of David crossing with that of Pendragon/Cymbeline,,,,,,,,this also explains why when the romans came to conquer britton they found that there was already a form of christianity, although different it was called christianity by the Roman Catholic army, but then ther was also mention of magic on the Pendragon part to,,,,,,,,,,,so in reality i am doing what i do right now. Im just a bit more aware of it and some dont like that because it takes there paycheck away,,,,,,,,,,,i wonder what Maddoff did with that 50 billion,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya ive heard rumors of what it cost to contain me the way they did, i heard the number of people in the complete know of what was being done to me was/is around 2,000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so spread that over around a 40 year peoproid of time, what just happend to wall st, but it had to be done, i didnot know exactly what was going to happen but on june-20-2008 i got the finnal go ahead from a much higher source to start to tell my entire story to the best of my ability and memory, even if some of it is forgotten or distorted, i had to stick to mostly what is provable that there is evidence to back, so what is in a name or birth certificate and that is where i started my new job, and its pretty fckin lonely when you realy cant look to someone else to make the decisions, after all were would a real king go to for his orders:rolleyes:and that is why i say june-20-2008 was the day i had my final go ahead. Just imagine allot of people moveing up a ladder because of a false vacancy then the guy that is supposed to be there shows up and all those that moved into positions that they had no bussines even looking at found themselves clawing and lying to stay in there seatand the only answer any of them could think of was to screw the guy up so bad that he could not possibly do his duty, or the other one was to get me to commit suicide or a convenient accident,,,,,,,,,,,,,there little false diagnosis almost worked but then some that met me knew right when i spoke that those records were false as well as the accusations made,,,,,,,,,,,,,so realy my mane job has bin survival and to help others without harming others in the process of surviving,,,,,,,,,kinda like be as wise as a serpent harmless as a dove,,,,,,,,,,,,but then some job descriptions change.
sorry about the long drawn out answer but i thought you started a very good thread and i enjoy the stimulating affect it has on problem solving when kept in that dirrection,,,,,,,,,,,maybe i just go to deep sometimes and i just wanted to explore the many aspects of what plagiarism is,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe its just he difference between a cheap copy and something emulating/building upon.
oh one is that Prince Michael of Albany guy, but that is more thievery than plagiarism, it downded on me that what may have also occurred it he had access to my research and growth therefore he had access to my knowledge which helped him to maintain a facade around the orders of knights he hobnobbed with,,,,after all his ambassador before his downfall was a retired marine intel officer.