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cafetimes1991

03-04-2009, 11:13 PM

I'm probably going to get a lot of abuse for this, but whatever...
I'm still not sure about aspartame. I probably just need more evidence from research to get me to stop drinking friggin' Diet Coke. The main one I'm worried about is the lowering in IQ, but I read stuff like this, and take another sip:

Well controlled scientific studies conducted by behavioral experts at a number of respected academic centers, including the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Harvard Medical School, and Yale Medical School, demonstrate that aspartame has no effects on mood, behavior, or cognition, including memory loss.

And I also read pieces like:

The overwhelming body of scientific evidence clearly demonstrates that aspartame, even in amounts many times more than what people typically consume, is safe and not associated with adverse health effects. The FDA has investigated alleged complaints since 1982 and stated that there is no “reasonable evidence of possible public health harm” and “no consistent or unique patterns of symptoms reported with respect to aspartame that can be causally linked to its use.” The trend for anecdotal reports of adverse effects from aspartame declined markedly over the years since the 1985 peak, when there were many unfounded allegations about aspartame in the media.

In 1984, the FDA commissioned the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to review complaints which some consumers related to their use of aspartame. After a review of 517 complaints, the CDC found that the complaints “do not provide evidence of the existence of serious, widespread, adverse health consequences attendant to the use of aspartame.” The CDC further noted, “The majority of frequently reported symptoms were mild and are symptoms that are common in the general populace.”

In response to these complaints, numerous additional scientific studies were done by prominent researchers at major academic institutions; the results of these studies overwhelmingly demonstrate that aspartame is not associated with adverse health effects, including headaches, seizures, changes in mood, cognition or behavior, or allergic reactions.

Could all of those researchers be lying? Including the university students? Sigh, then I see things like Aspartame Killed My Wife, but then I see presentations like the one on www.aspartame.net (http://www.aspartame.net/), which is extremely convincing (watch it first).

I'm aware I mightn't get backed up answers here, and I understand (?), but this is one of my last options.

mcmenek1

03-04-2009, 11:55 PM

Hi cafetimes1991,

Try watching this video it may help you to decide about aspartame......I'll let you make your own mind up.......

This is the first part of 10 videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB-SXOYnXeY&feature=PlayList&p=516204EED1E36A94&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=30
If it doesn't play just double click on the youtube box to take you direct to the youtube site.....

Love
&
Peace

cafetimes1991

04-04-2009, 12:53 PM

Thanks, mcmenek1, will watch those. :)

endlessvista

04-04-2009, 01:00 PM

14april2000

05-04-2009, 04:11 AM

Aspartame & Poisons
A carcinogenic sweetener created by Searle which has multiple serious health symptoms creating havok and death. Please try to watch a video called "Sweet Misery." Try to study the work of Dr Russell L Blaylock. Craig Oxley

LINK (http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showforum=15)
LINK (http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showforum=34)
**NOTE NEW POISON COMING FROM NUTRASWEET SOON** ALSO NOTE A NEW POISON SUBSITUTE FOR MSG NOW OUT CALLED -SENOMYX- 17/8/7

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/

The Full video on Aspartame, just below.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6551291488524526735&ei=V1nXSbuHMKL2qAPg6YGrBA&q=%22Aspartame%3A+Sweet+Misery%22&emb=1]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...Misery%22&emb=1
the link below is to the video just above.
LINK (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6551291488524526735&ei=V1nXSbuHMKL2qAPg6YGrBA&q=%22Aspartame%3A+Sweet+Misery%22&emb=1]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...Misery%22&emb=1)

FDA Approves Stevia, Ends the Era of Oppression of this Herbal Sweetener
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000626_stevia_Truvia_FDA.html

By Dr. Russell Blaylock

a 6 minute audio w/ his onlline sight
added, for those who need to know what to do to help you - because of toxicity of aspartame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqIFDoOwSFM

The to the above video
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqIFDoOwSFM)

Alex welcomes back to the show Russell Blaylock, M.D., a retired neurosurgeon, and author of Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills and The Blaylock Wellness Report. Dr. Blaylock has demonstrated the link between food additives and degenerative diseases.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VnQ48RT6U
The to the above video
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VnQ48RT6U)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFwowD_stk
The to the above video
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFwowD_stk)

14april2000

05-04-2009, 07:20 AM

Aspartame Consumption Again Linked to Degeneration of Brain Neurons

Thursday, September 25, 2008 by: David Gutierrez
http://www.naturalnews.com/024316.html

High intake of the artificial sweetener aspartame may lead to the degeneration of brain cells and various mental disorders, according to a research review conducted by South African scientists from the University of Pretoria and the University of Limpopo and published in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

"We propose that excessive aspartame ingestion might be involved in the pathogenesis of certain mental disorders, and also in compromised learning and emotional functioning," the researchers concluded.

The review of prior research found that aspartame, marketed as NutraSweet, Equal, Canderal and Tropicana Slim, leads to both direct and indirect changes in the brain when consumed in high quantities. Among these effects, the chemical can disrupt amino acid metabolism and structure, degrade nucleic acids, and interfere with the function of nerve cells and hormonal systems. It also appears to change the concentration of certain neurotransmitters in the brain.

The researchers also noted that aspartame appears to cause excessive signaling of nerve cells, and nerve cell damage or even death. By disrupting the functioning of the cells' mitochondria, or energy source, aspartame leads to a cascade of effects on the whole system.

"The energy systems for certain required enzyme reactions become compromised, thus indirectly leading to the inability of enzymes to function optimally," the researchers wrote.

This directly contradicts a review published in 2007, which concluded that "aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption … no credible evidence was found that aspartame is carcinogenic, neurotoxic, or has any other adverse effect on health."

Aspartame is a widely used artificial sweetener, particularly in food and beverage products marketed as low calorie or "diet." It is used in more than 6,000 products around the world.

The chemical has been controversial since its introduction, with a number of studies linking it to cancer and neurological and behavioral disorders. People have reported experiencing headaches, insomnia and even seizures from aspartame consumption.

The FDA and the European Food Safety Agency (EFSA), however, continue to insist that the sweetener is safe.

Sources for this story include: foodqualitynews.com.

cafetimes1991

08-04-2009, 05:28 PM

Thanks everyone, will try to stay away from the ol' Diet Coke. Now if I could just stop smoking...

14april2000

08-04-2009, 05:39 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6551291488524526735&ei=V1nXSbuHMKL2qAPg6YGrBA&q=%22Aspartame%3A+Sweet+Misery%22&emb=1]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...Misery%22&emb=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqIFDoOwSFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VnQ48RT6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFwowD_stk

motleyhoo

09-04-2009, 06:12 AM

The FDA, back when it was a legitimate agency, twice refused to grant Searle licensing for Aspartame after they tested it and determined it to be neurologically toxic. Only after the head of the FDA was fired and replaced by a corporate shill was Aspartame approved.

Have you ever noticed that people who drink diet coke drink a lot of them? It is because the Aspartame is an excitotoxin, and they are addictive.

If you want to know the history of Aspartame and the suspect way in which it was approved (and why it is called Rumsfeld's Plague)...

http://www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm

These are the kind of people that run our countries and hold high offices. No wonder we're all going down a crapper.

chris_com283

09-04-2009, 09:58 AM

cafetimes1991, it is good not to automatically buy into a CTs for the sake of it and well done done for doing your own research.

As for aspertame, personally I do not trust the stuff, but then again I am not a big sweets eater and do not have sugar in my coffee so it is not an issue for me. But one thing I will say the FDA approval was incredibly weird and set off all kinds of alarm bells for me.

Well said. I think there's a lot of people out there just buying into alternative theories for the hell of it without actually looking to see if they're that viable. I think I do that sometimes myself, though at least I'm willing to admit it. I think it's probably due to being disillusioned with general reality and so you buy into alternative ideas to in a way feel you have some ground to stand on and to also be part of the "crowd". Rant over.:)

On the subject of aspartame. I've never looked into it much, but I don't have good feelings about it. I made an effort to quit since I read in Autism United (I think it's called that) that aspartame seems to have a link with increased sensitivity to noise for people with Asperger syndrome. Since I both have Asperger syndrome and a rather strange form of phonophobia (there are many forms of it and after looking into it the term seems to fit my condition best) I thought it best to just play it safe and avoid it. Though it's supprising how many products contain the substance.

decided

10-04-2009, 04:34 AM

Thanks everyone, will try to stay away from the ol' Diet Coke. Now if I could just stop smoking...

http://members.iinet.com.au/~ray/TSSOASb.html

cafetimes1991

29-04-2009, 06:08 PM

Got a letter from Coke recently, quite convincing, about how aspartame is allegedly safe. Meh.

darketernal

29-04-2009, 11:07 PM

I do not have them handy right now, but I have read peer reviews that showed consumption of aspertame showed an increase in blood serum levels of methanol.

cleopatraxxx

12-05-2009, 08:54 PM

well, folks guess what:

i got cistitis, so read on some websites that cranberry juice helps to flush the bacteria.
so a neighbour got me a litre of Cranberry Classic juice today from OceanSpray brand.
i thanked her and went to open it, never reading any labels.
Thought "natural" is cool.
as i had my first sip i had to go and spit it out immediately: why? it felt like it was full of aspartame in it! so i immediately checked the ingredients: SUCRALOSE as sweetener! and i thought: "what for a sweetener in a natural juice?????????!!!!!:mad: then i saw the SPLENDA logo on one of the sides of the juice pack, ans it immediately rang the bells: SPLENA/NUTRASWEET, etc aspartame related...., but i saw no Aspartame in the ingredients, although it tasted as if it was full of it! not happy with what i was tasting and looking at i decided to visit the website to write a question about "why the taste of this supposedly natural juice contains a sweetener and tastes exactly like Aspartame?"! so i got to SPLENDA's website and in top 10 questions are topics like: is SPLENDA safe? , etc, of course, they will try and convince you of it's safety... i then decide to check alternative websites and googled on the SPLENA SUCRALOSE topic,,, hehehe, first one i find is this one http://www.splendaexposed.com/
here is what it says:
ASPARTAME VERSUS SPLENDA (SUCRALOSE)

The dangers of aspartame are now widely known, but the risks of using Splenda are not documented – until now. Splenda may not penetrate the blood brain barrier as aspartame does, hence entering the brain and creating neurotoxin havoc at the brain center, but Splenda CAN adversely affect the body in several ways because it IS a chemical substance and not natural sugar.

December newsletter Equal Sues Splenda

The same patterns with aspartame (NutraSweet/Equal) are repeating with sucralose (Splenda). Their claims of product safety and research results are identical to those used by The NutraSweet Company. Note the comparisons and repetitions between the products, the corporations, and marketing. Maybe now, consumers can prevent damage to human health sooner than with NutraSweet, which has damaged the health and lives of millions of innocent consumers since it was placed in the public food supply in 1982.

Has the FDA repeated the aspartame approval process for sucralose, allowing a product with proven carcinogens to flood our food supply? Only time will tell, as it has with aspartame. Yet at the cost of human lives.

Knowledge is power. As an educated consumer, you have the awareness to choose what you and your family will ingest. Unnatural artificial sweeteners may affect your health. Why take the chance? With this book, you woke up and smelled the coffee just in time. Now you can drink it safely.
SPLENDA® Is It Safe or Not?

After twenty years of NutraSweet® (aspartame) dominating the sweetener market, people are realizing for themselves that aspartame really is a foul food chemical tragically harmful to their health. Now, people think Johnson & Johnson’s Splenda, made from sucralose, has come to the rescue as the newest chemical sugar replacement “made from real sugar.” People don’t want to hear that it may be just as dangerous as aspartame, and this white knight of sweeteners is no better improvement.

New chemical sweeteners (like Splenda) and the sweetener blends (aspartame, sucralose and acesulfame K blended together in one product) may be causing users to show signs of weight gain, disruption of sleep patterns, sexual dysfunction, increases in cancer, MS, Lupus, diabetes, and a list of epidemic degenerative diseases. The corporations continue to stand tough in their denial of any connection to chemical sweetener additives.

This website takes you into the world of Splenda; ready or not, here we go again.
The Chlorine In Splenda

Chlorine is commonly found in nature, but almost always in combination with other building block elements. Chlorine's structure makes it very reactive and because it is so reactive, it is very useful to chemists, engineers and others involved in making things humans use every day.

The inventors of Splenda admit around fifteen percent (15%) of sucralose is absorbed by the body, but they cannot guarantee us (out of this fifteen percent) what amount of chlorine stays in the body and what percent flushes out.

So, do you feel lucky today as you sprinkle that yellow packet of powder in your tea? You will be alarmed once you realize how chlorine, this common chemical we’ve trusted as a “purifier”, is actually affecting our health in more ways than you know. Hopefully, this chapter will make you hesitate before you let your toddler take another sip of your diet cola.

What Are Sweetener Blends?

I’ve written about how artificial sweeteners like sucralose (found in Splenda) and aspartame (found in NutraSweet) can have a negative impact on your health. Now the sweetener industry has gone a step further in their quest to copy real sugar’s sweet flavor. They are mixing Splenda and NutraSweet and other artificial sweeteners together! Mixtures of any artificial sweeteners are called “sweetener blends.”

Instead of one harmful chemical coursing through your body, you now have two or three (or more) interacting with each other, and in ways we may not know yet. If one substance is hazardous, do you think adding toxins to it will make it better? It is just one more potent “alien” mixture with unknown interactions that your poor body will try to use, excrete, or store. Its mix n’ match chemistry at the expense of your health.

The Unsafe Sweeteners Out There

Artificial sweeteners: This category of non-nutritive, high-intensity sugar substitutes includes ASPARTAME, ACESULFAME-K, NEOTAME, SUCRALOSE, and ALITAME. The two sweeteners that have recently undergone current and pending FDA approval are SUCRALOSE and ALITAME, respectively. Cyclamate lost its FDA approval in 1970, but is currently up for re-approval. Numerous new sweeteners are currently in various stages of development and approval.

Saccharin, Stevia and Other Safe Alternative Sweeteners

Sugar and the quest for weight loss represent an enormous growth opportunity for the food and beverage manufacturers worldwide. And as everyone in the industry knows, the average human prefers taste to nutrition. Let’s see how we can reverse this trend.

The two safest choices of sweeteners to date are saccharin and stevia. Yes, saccharin! Saccharin is actually similar to stevia in its origin. It originally came from a plant imported from China, and in its original form, is a complex sugar extract from the plant itself. Stevia is extracted from a plant grown in South America, and is also a complex sugar extract.

According to FDA documents, saccharin has never caused cancer. Years ago, saccharin was sold in tiny pin-sized pellets, and merely two or three were enough to add sweetness to coffee or iced tea. This is what I consider a natural sucrose (sugar) substitute!

The Real Scoop On Sugar

Everyone needs to know that there is a difference between sugars - natural sugar, refined sugar, and corn syrup. Sugar is like a two-sided coin: heads – if natural, it can be useful to the body, and tails – if altered by man, it can be harmful to the body. How do you know the difference, and where can you buy the right kind of sugar products? Here’s the scoop...artificial sweeteners are not the solution.

Dying To Be Thin: Weight Loss and Weight Gain

Do diet sweeteners really help you lose weight, or do you eat more and gain weight in the long run? Do diet sweeteners make you fat? Yes, because they trick your body and don’t feed it what it needs

According to researchers, there is no clear-cut evidence that sugar substitutes help people lose weight. These days, more and more data suggests that these chemical sweeteners may actually stimulate appetite. Aspartame has been on the market for over twenty years, so most of the information in this chapter refers to weight gain in relation to products made with aspartame. It is too early to know how these patterns will repeat with sucralose (Splenda).

Are Your Kids Depressed and Aggressive?

If you have kids, you’ll be the first one to notice health and behavioral changes in your children. Children are reacting to artificial sweeteners in harmful ways, but this aspect of the sweetener wars has gone unnoticed in the mainstream health community. The sweetener corporations market to children by placing soft drink machines in public elementary schools, and by influencing doctors that diet sweeteners don’t cause abnormal behavior and emotional stress in children. When you have exhausted all the other reasons for your child’s poor health or mental/emotional problems, then diet chemicals could be the culprit.

The rising numbers of mental disorders have gone unexplained until now. A diet of chemical foods means a diet of malnutrition, and when the body is starved of nutrients, it becomes mentally and physically stressed. Don’t raise your children on diet chemicals – search for healthy alternatives.

Sugar-Free With Diabetes

Diabetes may be a common disease these days, but it is still misunderstood. Most people think diabetes is simply a disease that means you just can’t eat sugar. The artificial sugar industry markets fake sugars as totally harmless to the diabetic, and tempts them into believing they can eat and drink all they want by “tricking” their bodies. But what works for one person may not work for another. What makes this matter even more difficult to understand: diabetes is just a little bit different for every diabetic. This is why no one artificial sweetener company can truly make a blanket statement that their product is “safe for diabetics.”

As delicate as diabetes is, how then, can diet chemical sweeteners be safe when a person with diabetes requires such precise chemical management?
Who Will Win The Sweetener Wars?

The immediate dramatic success of Splenda has shaken things up in the artificial-sweetener business, dominated for decades by the rivalry between the blue and pink - Equal and Sweet'N Low®. Each of these brands has come up with a new marketing approach to deal with the ravenous dynamics of the ‘diet’ marketplace. Are they playing fair or playing on consumer trust?

In the midst of the continued controversy over aspartame, many pharmaceutical and health food manufacturers - Pro Lab, Twin Lab

and Ross Products, makers of Pedialyte®, for example - have switched to using sucralose in their manufactured products. But who are these major big corporations ‘fighting’ in the artificial sweetener wars, and what do these mega corporations really stand for? This is an important question to answer before buying their products.
Rising From The Grave’s Disease

Justin Dumais is a 2004 Athens' Olympic Silver Medalist, a Grave’s Disease survivor, and aspartame victim. Merely months before the Olympic trials, Justin contacted me for nutritional help in recovering from a diagnosis of Grave’s Disease caused by diet colas with aspartame. He read my first book Sweet Poison, followed my recovery experience from my own case of Grave’s caused by aspartame, and cured his disease in six weeks (just like I did) by simply removing aspartame from his diet, cleansing, and restoring his depleted nutrients. His recovery from a “false” diagnosis of Grave’s Disease came merely months before the 2004 Athen’s Olympic Trials. But, like me, did Justin really have Grave’s or merely aspartame disease?

Nutritional Alternatives To Stay Healthy

Nutritional diets are critical to long-term health, but when you are polluted with chemical toxins from your foods, such as chlorine in sucralose and methanol in aspartame, it is important to remove these toxins as quickly and as safely as possible. Removing chemicals from the human body is a two part process – eating right and cleansing from the chemicals permeating your tissues.

Go here for the nutritional protocol for restoring good health I used to recovery from my own near-fatal disease. I pass on to you the best of my nutritional programs and recommendations for removing harmful food chemicals from your body in the 10 Steps to Detoxification and The Richardson Cancer Diet, most importantly – how to cleanse from artificial sweetener chemicals.
Splenda Product List

As of May 2004, the list of over 3,000 products containing Splenda was thirty-four pages in length. Note: some of the products are not labeled sugar-free, and some products also contain aspartame. The best advise is to read ALL the labels on anything you buy for you or for your children’s safety.

The list includes a variety of foods and food products, pharmaceuticals and children’s medications, vitamin supplements, protein powders, protein bars and weight loss products, liquid and powdered drinks, popcorn, gums and mints, toothpaste, and water.
Aspartame Case Histories

Case histories are an excellent way to share the experiences of those who have faced one of life’s hardest challenges – nutritionally turning disease into health. Most of these case histories have happy endings, and after considering the evidence, especially after their long and arduous struggles for health, what these people have learned serves as a beacon of hope for others.

Aspartame has been on the market since 1981, so over twenty years of aspartame use has passed. Let’s hope our new awareness of the influences of sucralose and the other chemical sweeteners comes much sooner to prevent any more human suffering.
NutraSweet Product List

The original product list containing NutraSweet’s twenty-year product monopoly is impossible to find these days. Taken from my book on aspartame, Sweet Poison, the original list of NutraSweet’s novel 5,000 products from the 1980s was sent to me directly from the NutraSweet Company.
Splenda Research Studies

Bottom line – what’s the research say about sucralose? Well, the studies proving the safety concerns are out there, but they are hard to find and technical. Nonetheless, they prove the claims of concern are valid and I have spent the past 10 months uncovering the research thanks to my contacts around the world.

With this website, you woke up and smelled the coffee just in time. Now you can drink it safely.

all I can say is that this natural cranberry juice tasted exactly like all aspartame filled products! HORRIBLE!! :eek: :mad: :(
to me Splenda is an out of the question ingredient to consume. My kids already avoid all sweets and gums with aspartame (phenylalaline (http://www.sweetpoison.com/phenylalanine.html) it's chemical denomination). this one is another to avoid definitely!

cafetimes1991

12-05-2009, 08:57 PM

Thanks for that, cleopatraxxx! :) I've been staying away from aspartame. I looked odd today checking the ingredients lists on soft drink cans.

darketernal

12-05-2009, 09:01 PM

Thanks for that, cleopatraxxx! :) I've been staying away from aspartame. I looked odd today checking the ingredients lists on soft drink cans.

Don't worry about looking weird checking labels. Those who chose not too will look far stranger obese, or with horrible health problems, or dead at a younger age than you. :)

cleopatraxxx

12-05-2009, 09:05 PM

Thanks for that, cleopatraxxx! :) I've been staying away from aspartame. I looked odd today checking the ingredients lists on soft drink cans.

you are more than welcome.
i got aquainted with the aspartame dangers through the old David Icke's website some 7 years ago at least. Since then i have been avoiding it and telling people to avoid aspartame and do their own research online, because there was loads of evidence of it's unsafety there.

once again, today i read even more and am hapy to have warned so many people and taught my children to avoid it. they come to me and say: "MOM, i found another sweet today i can't buy, it has Aspartame" with a smile on their face!!! :) a smile of a hero who defeated another enemy! :D

i don't bother if someone looks at me weird when i talk to unaware people about it. I KNOW soon in time they will understand what i was on about. I actually quote many times the fact that SOUTH AFRICA is a country that FORBID the use of ASPARTAME in any South African Products!!!!
i found that TURKEY has a some brands of their chewing gum with labels saying "NO ASPARTAME ADDED"!!!! ;) that was fabulous to see and of course i bought it!!!!!!! :))))) don't ask me the name of it. i am not much into chewing gums. and only bought it then due to the label really! ;)

enga

12-05-2009, 09:07 PM

Trust me Cafetimes you should give it up. Give up fizzy drinks altogether. Aspartame or not.
I used to drink 2-4 litres of diet coke a day for 10 years or more. I have gone from being interviewed for Cambridge (I didn't go...was pregnant and didn't want to move) and having very good analytical thinking skills to a having a brain that doesn't function well at all. I struggle with concentration, my memory is next to non-existent for most purposes when it used to be sharp. I even struggle putting sentences together and used to be highly articulate. I did not know the effects of aspartame and I really think that this it what caused it looking back along with my previous appalling diet.
You are what you eat /drink....it is certainly true.
Even sugared fizzy drinks are terrible. They all contain phosphoric acid and an average can of coke contains 9 teaspoons of sugar.
They showed brain scans recently in a newspaper of people who used various substances and caffeine had a noticeably effect on the degeneration of the brain (at least that is what they blamed it on).
If I could do over my time on Earth so far I wouldn't eat or drink anything with chemicals in or any toxins. I guess it's all experience but once your health has gone you don't get it back completely.

robindean

14-05-2009, 08:06 PM

Aspartame is a poison, plain and simple.

Surgeons operating on brain tumours of Aspartame consumers often report the tumour to be 'covered in/made of some kind of white plastic'!

It messes with our DNA, fucks up the electrical signal flow in the brain, and they say it doesn't interrupt with thought because it doesn't stop you thinking, it stops you focusing on one thing for a long time..

All kinds of shit can be cause by even small amounts of the stuff..

noir

14-05-2009, 08:20 PM

my mom needs to read that splenda exposed, too bad most in the medical field think they know everything.

ex sheep

15-05-2009, 08:02 AM

obsidian knighthawk

17-05-2009, 01:48 PM

Hi I'm new to this site:),
correct me if I'm wrong but people consume aspartame (nutrisweet, equal etc.) because they don't want to consume sugar, which they think will cause them to put on 'weight'.

Everyone I know who is 'overweight' and ingests this chemical have not and are not losing weight, sitting at a computer screen slugging known neurotoxins under the brand of 'DIET' will not improve your body.

If you don't have and are unwilling to obtain a basic understanding of biochemistry then you'll never know why 'we' are so against it but here's some common sense for you-
Who should you trust? :confused:
These huge multinational companies who stand to make billions from these chemicals:mad: OR members of the public and assorted health professionals who stand to gain nothing and may even be harming their career by enlightening you?:cool:

Still unwilling to forgo sweet tasting snacks and drinks even at the possible risk of all the documented ill effects?:(
The very fact that you can't do without this 'sweetness' in your diet should raise alarm bells, that's chemical dependency, not natural hunger or thirst.

Sounds like you've had too much aspartame.:p

Here's a list of much healthier alternatives-

Stevia (Stevia is also safe for diabetics)

Evaporated cane juice

Fruit juice

Rice syrup

Honey

Licorice Root (small amounts)

Fructooligosaccharides (FOS)

Amasake

Maple Syrup (Without Added Sugar)

Barley Malt

Sugar Alcohols (Xylitol*, Sorbitol)

cafetimes1991

17-05-2009, 01:58 PM

Mm. Thanks, obsidian knighthawk (cool screen-name!). And welcome to the forum.
I haven't had Diet Coke in weeks now. ;) Have been having Pepsi, the lesser of two evils. :cool:

tracker

17-05-2009, 02:03 PM

cleopatraxxx

18-05-2009, 12:23 AM

I was shocked to hear this, but just been on their site and it states

cranberry classic juice drink 1L
ingredients

Water, Cranberry Juice from Concentrate (25%), Glucose-Fructose Syrup, Sugar, Vitamin C.

Free from artificial colours, flavourings and sweeteners.

Made with North American Cranberries.

Also available in a 4 pack.
nutrition info
per 250ml per 100ml
Energy 523kJ / 123kcal 209kJ / 49kcal
Protein 0g 0g
Carbohydrate
of which sugars 29g
29g 11.6g
11.6g
Fat
of which saturates trace
0g trace
0g
Fibre trace trace
Sodium trace trace
Vitamin C 75mg (125% RDA*) 30mg (50% RDA*)

yes, definitely!
Please open the link i provide,
http://www.oceanspray.co.uk/products/light_cranberry_classic_and_blends#nutrition
press "view product info", and a new window will appear with the ingredients, press "ingredients", now TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE PHOTO OF THE JUICE PACK: ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PACK YOU CAN VIEW AT AN ANGLE THE SIDE OF IT AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DISTIGUISH AN ELLIPTIC SHAPE: IT IS SPLENDAs LOGO!!!!!
GO TO THE CO-OP, GET YOURSELF ONE PLEASE , TASTE IT AND COMPARE TO THE TASTE OF ANY SUGARFREE GUM. jst for the sake of comparison. i was myself gobsmacked. :mad: when i felt the taste similar to aspartamne in a supposedly natural juice!!!!!!

what i have noticed, recently, even some toothpastes, manage not to put into their main front designs the FLUORIDE word, and you have to SEARCH FOR IT in the INGREDIENTS. before people started to complain the word FLUORIDE has been outstanding as the main ingredient which was advertised of " fighting plaque". But people are waking up! so some companies becoming cautious.

It also came to my attention that when you are buying fizzy bottles of pop, you will see the words: NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS NOR COLOURS,...that makes one think , cool, but PAY ATTEMNTION AND SEARCH FOR IT IN THE INGREDIENTS: you will find: contains traces of phenylalanine, or aspartame, or sucralose.......ALWAYS CHECK ALL THE PACK untill you are 100% sure it doesnt' contain any.

Regards
CLeo

ex sheep

18-05-2009, 01:41 PM

yes, definitely!
Please open the link i provide,
http://www.oceanspray.co.uk/products/light_cranberry_classic_and_blends#nutrition
press "view product info", and a new window will appear with the ingredients, press "ingredients", now TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE PHOTO OF THE JUICE PACK: ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PACK YOU CAN VIEW AT AN ANGLE THE SIDE OF IT AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DISTIGUISH AN ELLIPTIC SHAPE: IT IS SPLENDAs LOGO!!!!!
GO TO THE CO-OP, GET YOURSELF ONE PLEASE , TASTE IT AND COMPARE TO THE TASTE OF ANY SUGARFREE GUM. jst for the sake of comparison. i was myself gobsmacked. :mad: when i felt the taste similar to aspartamne in a supposedly natural juice!!!!!!

what i have noticed, recently, even some toothpastes, manage not to put into their main front designs the FLUORIDE word, and you have to SEARCH FOR IT in the INGREDIENTS. before people started to complain the word FLUORIDE has been outstanding as the main ingredient which was advertised of " fighting plaque". But people are waking up! so some companies becoming cautious.

It also came to my attention that when you are buying fizzy bottles of pop, you will see the words: NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS NOR COLOURS,...that makes one think , cool, but PAY ATTEMNTION AND SEARCH FOR IT IN THE INGREDIENTS: you will find: contains traces of phenylalanine, or aspartame, or sucralose.......ALWAYS CHECK ALL THE PACK untill you are 100% sure it doesnt' contain any.

Regards
CLeo

You must but the cranberry classic, never buy anything light, diet, etc these ones have the sweeteners in them.

cleopatraxxx

18-05-2009, 02:45 PM

You must but the cranberry classic, never buy anything light, diet, etc these ones have the sweeteners in them.

as i wrote in the begining, this was brought to my door by my concerned neighbour. she has not a clue. as she doesn't belive in any conspiracy nor aspartame facts. she loves watching big brother....as well as her husband

i do not consume any diet products. i was poorly and was happy for the juice and gesture of the neighbour, so never even paid attention to the word light. I read NATURAL JUICE and felt happy, but it didn't occur to me to even look through more details untill my first sip... then i became worried and totally dissapointed.

thank you ex sheep for the concern and advice :)
Regards
Cleo

i am definitely going to go and try the CLASSIC not light CRANBERRY :) and will let you know if i liked it ;)

cafetimes1991

18-05-2009, 08:42 PM

unlike you who drinks aspartame

I stopped. :)

state_of_mind

19-05-2009, 11:22 PM

cafetimes1991

19-05-2009, 11:25 PM

Welcome to the forum, Tony. :)
I've just being having less than a glass of Pepsi or 7-Up per day, which seems quite healthy compared to my one cigarette a day.

state_of_mind

19-05-2009, 11:32 PM

Welcome to the forum, Tony. :)
I've just being having less than a glass of Pepsi or 7-Up per day, which seems quite healthy compared to my one cigarette a day.

Thanks for the welcome...

Good luck with your reduction on soft drinks, easier said than done I know.

Not sure what to say about cigarettes, I quit 10 years ago this August :D

Tony :)

rockinrobinsuk

20-05-2009, 08:27 PM

Did you know asda is the first supermarket to stop putting aspartame in there own brand products? It states aspartame free on the packets.
http://www.weitzlux.com/benzeneresourcecenter/Drinksampletable1:B_403066.html
check it out. Also sodium benzate when mixed with vit c turns cancerous
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/caution-some-soft-drinks-may-seriously-harm-your-health-450593.html

iitokio

21-05-2009, 02:24 PM

I hardly drink any fizzy soft drinks but drink lots of squash, seems aspartame gets everywhere :(

Anyway, just requested to the missus to buy lots more fruit juice to mix with water......the squash can stay in the shops from now on

Tony :)

I quite like drinking some lemon barley water (squash) that is free from aspartame. I used to drink quite a bit of other squash that had the "no added sugar" on the front but when i realised what aspartame is i ceased to go near the stuff if i can help it. I can even taste if a drink has aspartame in it haha

state_of_mind

21-05-2009, 10:24 PM

Did you know asda is the first supermarket to stop putting aspartame in there own brand products? It states aspartame free on the packets.

I'll have a look next time I'm near Asda, we dont have one local.

Cheers!

Tony :)

state_of_mind

21-05-2009, 10:26 PM

I quite like drinking some lemon barley water (squash) that is free from aspartame

Thanks for the heads up, worth getting some then.

Cheers!

Tony :)

accuracy

22-05-2009, 12:44 PM

NCI Study Links Aspartame
To Leukemia & Lymphoma

* EFSA blesses formaldehyde-forming aspartame on April 20
* NCI backs study linking formaldehyde to
leukemia, lymphoma on May 14

From Dr. Betty Martini
Mission Possible International
5-21-9

The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) announced April 20, 2009: ..."on the basis of all the evidence currently available including the [second] published ERF study there is no indication of any genotoxic or carcinogenic potential of aspartame and that there is no reason to revise the previously established ADI (allowable daily intake) for aspartame of 40mg/kg bw/day." Truth be told: aspartame is an addictive excitoneurotoxic, genetically engineered, carcinogenic that interacts with virtually all medications.

EFSA is blinded by allegiance to commercial interests so it invents objections to acclaimed medical research, disregarding the suffering, ruined lives and death their cupidity brings to Europe.

In 2005 the renowned Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences reported a rigorous three years study on 1,800 rats, concluding: aspartame causes significant increases in lympomas/leukemias and is a multi-potential carcinogen. EFSA invented "deficiencies" in the study to protect manufacturers pet poison. The second study, ERF 2007, entirely verified the first. Dr. Morando Soffritti, who led both projects, noted that so much formaldehyde developed in aspartame-exposed rats that their skin turned yellow.

Who is the European Food Safety Authority? In 2002 a review of aspartame a review of aspartame y the European commission, Scientific Committee on Food attempted to pass off this deadly addictive drug as safe. An assessment by the European Anti-Fraud Agency (OLAF) revealed the opinion was written by a single person and not by the entire Scientific Committee on Food. OLAF did not reveal the name of this individual or any scientific expertise or conflict of interest he/she had.

Astonishingly, one unnamed individual writes each opinion of the committees. Next, persons, often industry consultants, review the draft. What is clear: neither the author nor the Committee (including industry consultants) considered or had familiarity with the scientific research detailed in the 2002 analysis.

The European Commission, Scientific Committee on Food is defunct and reviews are now conducted by EFSA, which is composed of many of the same scientists with conflicts of interest who were on the earlier bureaucracy.

America's FDA approved aspartame as a synthetic sweetener in 1981. However, studies given the FDA by the manufacturer hide the fact the poison caused tumors in lab rats.

An Interesting Twist Of Formaldehyde Fate

On May 14, 2009, the National Cancer Institute confirmed the link between formaldehyde and cancer. The NCI's Laura E. Beane Freeman, Ph.D. reported that an extended analysis of workers exposed to formaldehyde was associated with a 37 percent increased death-risk from lymphoma and leukemia. "The overall patterns of risk seen in this extended follow-up of industrial workers are consistent with a causal association between formaldehyde exposure and cancers of the blood and lymphatic system and warrant continued concern," Online: Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

According to Kristina Fiore of MedPage Today, "Since the 1980s, the Institute has studied a cohort of 25,619 workers employed before Jan. 1, 1966 in 10 industrial plants that produced formaldehyde in molded-plastic products, photographic film, decorative laminates and plywood. The formaldehyde cohort, originally assessed through Dec. 31, 1979, was then updated through Dec. 31, 1994."

Researchers have not yet identified the mechanism by which formaldehyde causes leukemia but the pattern is consistent with "a possible causal association, with the largest risks occurring closer in time to relevant exposure." She called for further study to "evaluate risks of these cancers in other formaldehyde-exposed populations and to assess possible biological mechanisms."

Toxicologist, Dr. George Schwartz, told team NutraSweet in 1999 they had presented a one-sided self serving polemic defending their potentially dangerous product and said, "As one example, your comment that "formate is quickly eliminated by the body" is demonstrably false. .. The study done by Trocho et al, Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue components in vivo. Life Sciences 63:5:p.337-49, 1998, clearly demonstrates cellular persistence and accumulation, or in layman's terms, that formaldehyde can remain and accumulate in the body."

It is absolutely established that formaldehyde converted from the methyl ester in aspartame embalms living tissue and damages DNA. http://www.mpwhi.com/formaldehyde_from_aspartame.pdf

EPA listed formaldehyde as a probable human carcinogen in 1987. In 2004 the International Agency for Research on Cancer went further classifying formaldehyde as a "known human carcinogen" based partly on research suggesting a link to leukemia. Dr. Woodrow Monte (Aspartame: Methanol and the Public Health) in New Zealand saw that the New Zealand Food Safety Authority was concerned formaldehyde was found in pajamas. He wrote: "If you are concerned about formaldehyde in your pajamas then think twice about taking it with your breakfast cereal. Aspartame or Equal, the controversial sweetener virtually forced down the throats of the American FDA by the notorious former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (the president of the company that produced it) turns into Formaldehyde inside your children's bodies. It is well known aspartame or Equal (E951/951) turns into wood alcohol when it is consumed, however, few people realize this wood alcohol morphs into formaldehyde in the cells of the human body. Formaldehyde is a Class 1 causing agent (the world class of carcinogen) and is responsible for everything from sick house syndrome to birth defects. Definitely something we don't want to see in Pajamas but most certainly not in our food."

Dr. James Bowen said: "Other examples of this toxic axis are the extreme poisonings caused by formaldehyde, which plasticizes corpses, and is a deadly carcinogen. Both acute and chronic poisonings from methanol with the several other synergistic poisonings from aspartame ingestion steadily accumulate within aspartame consumers until finally hastening or culminating in fatal events."

"The NCI study confirms the work of Dr. Soffritti," said Mission Possible Director Dr. Betty Martini. "Now we have to get the NCI to realize that the 'biological mechanisms' that cause formaldehyde-induced cancers from workplace exposures are likely to be identical to the 'biological mechanisms' causing aspartame-induced cancers. Research shows formaldehyde, which aspartame produces, causes lymphoma and leukemia in both lab rats and people. EFSA's general review of aspartame will be completed in November. With their tight relationship with industry what should we expect? Perhaps they'll remember Mark Twain's words: "Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."

FDA has admitted aspartame carcinogenicity; nevertheless the NCI and NIH recently said aspartame is a safe artificial sweetener.

Note: For 30 years the neurotoxicity/carcinogenicity of aspartame have been demonstrated in numerous studies posted on the sites below. This research is confirmed by the case histories of thousands of victims who suffered dread infirmities or died from the myriad complications from this chemical poison. This could end if the NCI announces workplace formaldehyde and dietary formaldehyde have the same affect on the body and produce the same cancers.

FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross, told Congress in 1985 aspartame violates the Delaney Amendment because it causes cancer and an allowable daily intake should never have been allowed to be set.

Russell Blaylock, M.D. said in "Health and Nutrition Secrets to Save Your Life": "So in the case of diet drinks in aluminum cans, the very toxic brain aluminum fluoride compound co-exists with multiple toxins found in aspartame, thus creating the most powerful government-approved toxic soup imaginable."

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