Depression.

[consciousness84]

Maybe it's just me, and this might piss some people off, but I think that sometimes, with certain people (a lot actually) that depression is a choice. The thing is, they may not be aware that they are making that choice, or are unaware that there is another choice out there.

I say this because, growing up, during my adolescent years, I thought I was depressed. At 19, I got on Zoloft and took it only a week, it was horrible. Constant brain freeze feelings, and not being able to eat or sleep. I felt that all my movements were predetermined by an entity other than myself, something that was trying to invade my mind. Then later on I got put on some "mood stabilizer" which I think was really an anti-psychotic!!!! :eek: However, I think that sometimes all thats needed is a change in diet, a change in activity level and (the most important one) a change in mindset (which is easier said than done).

Looking back, I drank all of the time (it also helps to quit that), and I slept around, and I wondered why I was "depressed." Then all that became a no brainer. I HAD to have a change in mindset at some point, it was inevitable. I just wonder why that change doesn't happen to more people. One thing that pisses me off about the pharmaceutical companies is they want you to believe that life is supposed to be a continuous incline. And if your life is not this picture perfect incline they present, then OMG your depressed, theres something wrong with you, here, have these pills. In reality, life is a series of ups and downs.

Don't get me wrong, I know that there IS real depression out there and some people truly need the help that they get. Other people need help they are not getting. But I honestly think that a lot of it is a fluke, and its the easier way out to just go towards the pills. I have one friend who has anxiety and depression issues, and sometimes she'll stop taking certain things because she "wants to work on her moods on her own." Which I can respect. She's getting there. A lot of doctors would say that was a bad idea but I don't think so. It was that attitude which eventually got me to a stage of enlightenment that I am at today. I guess too what else I am saying is that a lot of depression is situational depression, and constantly I see people reverting to the pills rather than trying to change their situation.

[kanz]

I agree in a sence , im a bit more harsh. I don't see depression as a illness, well not the way people make it out to be. We have all been depressed at one point or another, all it really is , is you feel horrible and can't be assed with anything. Just some people can deal with it better than other's.

Now all the people who end up 'useless' (I use that word lightly) because of depression are usually weak (if you get me) , don't know how to deal with it or are looking for attention.

I'm not trying to offend anyone , just speaking on what I have seen for my self.

[deadskinball]

I'd be guessing that in some parts of the world it cool to have a mental illness. Just like in school these days its cool to be different - be it openly flamboiant, metro, grunge, extreme hippy... whatever. Back in my schooling days those types were picked on because they were different. Now its ok to have that image (although I fucking detest metro! ) and i think that since it ok to 'fit in' with a certain group its ok to fit in with the mental problem crowd if chosen to.

And yes, if all those fake-ass idiots would grow a brain and realise that no gives a shit about their 'whoa is me, pity poor me' (emo idiots!! ) attitudes then those with real problems would have the available resources.

So, you are right to ridicule people with fake problems. I hate them too.

[deadskinball]

I don't see depression as a illness, well not the way people make it out to be.

As a past sufferer of reactive depression, I'll agree 100%.

:eek:

Depression as a term is not a mental illness. Its an umbrella term for a group of symptoms which (when expressed) are one or some may not fall under depression per se.

There is no treatment for depression.

There is treatment for the underlying problems.

For me, I had OCD (obsessive complusive disorder), anxiety disorder (extremely low self esteem), screwed up emotions (burst out in tears when I heard a siren), lax motivation (and hygiene) and anger management issues (passive).

All those issues fall under the global term of depression for one by itself isn't depression, but combined they certainly are.

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I hope this sort of explains it. I'll stop now since i need to squash in down.

[unusual_suspect]

I agree with you to a large extent consciousness84, having been depressed at one point in my life, I have to say that it became a habit as much as anything else. At some piont someone has to make the descision to stop being depressed. :)

[14april2000]

Question : What is the best cure for depression - i am asking for another person. he is going through a difficult period at the moment and would like some help?


Answer : Okay a simple but very effective method he can easily do is get on a B Vitamin Complex. He should start off on a 100mg complex that are NOT time release. He should then split the tablet into 4 so hes taking 25mg 4x daily. After 2-3 months on this put him on 50mg a day for a nice period of time. This is something that usually works quickly and aids people well with depression. I don't usually promote vitamins but in certain circumstances like this it will suit them well till they can become hollistic. Also I got my aunty off 20 years of Prozac with simply a B Complex. A complex means all the B's are present and balanced. We should never take seperate B vitamins. They may like use a combo of these essential oils; Ylang Ylang, Clary Sage, Rose & Frankincense. This will help the Root chakra linked to depression as would a chiro adjustment of the Coccyx and Sacrum. Craig Oxley

LINK (http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=9056)

[simplysimon]

I've done a bit of research on depression and have probably gone through it myself. However, I feel it's a natural part of our growth. We are far too quick to run off for medication when it could just be our soul saying STOP! This is not what you're meant to be doing!

I think once we take the time to be introspective and realise what is really important to us, then we change the direction we have taken and become more than we were.

Probably way off the mark here, but it's my opinion.

[unusual_suspect]

I've done a bit of research on depression and have probably gone through it myself. However, I feel it's a natural part of our growth. We are far too quick to run off for medication when it could just be our soul saying STOP! This is not what you're meant to be doing!

I think once we take the time to be introspective and realise what is really important to us, then we change the direction we have taken and become more than we were.

Probably way off the mark here, but it's my opinion.

I am inclined to agree with you there, you have to go through the dark night of the soul to get to the golden dawn.

If more people fully understood the huge possiblity for growth that such challenging experiences bring, they might welcome such times with open arms instead of drowning them out with chemicals and other means.

No one ever said that it was going to be easy :D

[simplysimon]

When I read "Care of the Soul" by Thomas Moore, something really struck home with me. If you discount his Catcholic preaching towards the end of the book, it's a great read. He goes into the history of depression right back to the Greeks and being a "Child of Saturn".

How can we live in light if we haven't experienced the darkness :)