View Full Version : INSIDER leaks what's in CHEMTRAILS
poshrat
03-04-2009, 01:44 AM
Chemtrails are being used for climate change
From my source I quote his email:
"The plumes mainly contain aluminium in an attempt to prevent global warming - the reflective surfaces of the particles inhibit sunlight radiation. The consequence is that these particles ultimately end up in the water supply: Too much alluminium can harm humans and so other chemicals are added to restrict the harm - but its a viscious cirlcle as all additives have a consequence - most european countries have similar programs - China famously altered the weather (widely known) to prevent rain falling during the olympics and to improve air quality - The Russians have been doing this since the cold war; but the USA has by far the biggest threat by global warming and so their program which aso includes HAARP is by far the greatest. Military personnel have confirmed this and so has photo and video evidence which cannot be refuted. Of course they could also use this same technology to spray other Chems but I am still working on this - I have a list of the other additives that have been found and will pass them on in due course - sadly I cannot reveal my sources as this is part of an ongoing investigation within the confines of the documentary.
But I will support your cause and pass on info as I can release it.
You may post this information to others and blog if you feel it would help
Cheers"
He then puts his name.
It all makes sense to me now. I hope the Government will admit to this in the petition. As we have a right to know.
rossus
03-04-2009, 01:49 AM
maybe "to prevent global warming" is the reason they give to the pilots and the captains in the army,
but spraying chemicals in the air sounds like a really stupid way to do this.
if they create chemtrails on purpose,
i don't believe it's to prevent global warming.
i'm still not convinced they chemtrail on purpose,
i haven't done enough research into the subject though :o
beldazar
03-04-2009, 02:00 AM
Chemtrails are being used for climate change
From my source I quote his email:
"The plumes mainly contain aluminium in an attempt to prevent global warming - the reflective surfaces of the particles inhibit sunlight radiation. The consequence is that these particles ultimately end up in the water supply: Too much alluminium can harm humans and so other chemicals are added to restrict the harm - but its a viscious cirlcle as all additives have a consequence - most european countries have similar programs - China famously altered the weather (widely known) to prevent rain falling during the olympics and to improve air quality - The Russians have been doing this since the cold war; but the USA has by far the biggest threat by global warming and so their program which aso includes HAARP is by far the greatest. Military personnel have confirmed this and so has photo and video evidence which cannot be refuted. Of course they could also use this same technology to spray other Chems but I am still working on this - I have a list of the other additives that have been found and will pass them on in due course - sadly I cannot reveal my sources as this is part of an ongoing investigation within the confines of the documentary.
But I will support your cause and pass on info as I can release it.
You may post this information to others and blog if you feel it would help
Cheers"
He then puts his name.
It all makes sense to me now. I hope the Government will admit to this in the petition. As we have a right to know.
this has already been mentioned on this forum, a while back now...a slightly different article and more detailed
If they admitted to this it stuffs up the 'man-made global warming' bullshit
poshrat
03-04-2009, 02:22 AM
The aluminum makes alot of sense.
Global warming is down to sun spot activity. Am I right?
I will see what else is revealed. I do trust this bloke.
So this is more a case of "Hold the front page" information.
john connor
03-04-2009, 02:37 AM
I just got back from the Maldives - Paradise- NOT a chemtrail in sight for 2 weeks, red hot every day, Real puffy clouds and brilliant hot sun...why no trails their???????? ...maybe because its not populated enough? sorry I dont buy this ...I was on an inhalor before I went and had breathing problems in chemtrail Britain, 2 weeks in Paradise and Im fine, lets see how long before the crap starts again...boy did it feel good to see BLUE skies, I cant think of many palces that get as much sun...so why no trails?????
mightiswrong
03-04-2009, 03:14 AM
Yeah if the global warming theory were correct it would not make sense to spray over the UK since the level of solar insulation there is minimal especially in the winter. It would make far more sense to spray in a hot place with strong sun and a low albedo such as the tropics. Furthermore if the earth is warming then sea temperatures would slowly rise creating more clouds which would reflect more sunlight causing a natural cooling. Likewise if the sun gets weaker the seas cool and you get less cloud which increases solar insultation leading to warming. It is a beautifully self regulating system. Indeed ice is the only substance that floats on it's liquid form when it becomes solid.
poshrat
03-04-2009, 10:41 AM
I don't think chemtrail spraying has much to do with Global warming in reflection.
The points made above are pure common sense.
To tell you the truth I don't think the petition will make one god dam bit of difference.
I have woken up this morning feeling very different.
Big reality bites. BIG TIME
If you heard the first 4 words on the 10 o'clock news last night you'll know what I mean.
The future is very very clear.
My visions are true and I have not been going mad.
It feels right to be angry now.
mightiswrong
03-04-2009, 03:41 PM
What did they say on the 10 o clock news?
size_of_light
03-04-2009, 03:45 PM
To tell you the truth I don't think the petition will make one god dam bit of difference.
It wont.
It feels right to be angry now.
Why are you angry now?
poshrat
03-04-2009, 03:46 PM
What did they say on the 10 o clock news?
BBC News 10pm first words were:
A NEW WORLD ORDER has been created.
Clear as day, shiver down my spine.
poshrat
03-04-2009, 03:50 PM
It wont.
Why are you angry now?
The NWO is true and I feel powerless to do anything.
My visions are true and I have been ignoring them.
size_of_light
03-04-2009, 03:53 PM
The NWO is true and I feel powerless to do anything.
My visions are true and I have been ignoring them.
There might be a bit of shock at first when the reality of it really hits home, but remember that it's not new, only your awareness of it.
You're not powerless at all, so hang in there.
We'll sort 'em out - you watch ;)
beldazar
03-04-2009, 03:57 PM
The NWO is true and I feel powerless to do anything.
My visions are true and I have been ignoring them.
Big hug to you Poshrat, take note of what Size has said...yes its one massive shock finding all this out, thats on one level. but it runs very deep......
flyermay
03-04-2009, 04:21 PM
It makes no sense to be using chemtrails to stop global warming. Even if the sun rays were really deflected by the supposed aluminium on the chemtrails, then why spray it over every city?
If this was true, wouldn't it have the same effect using chamtrails only over the sea and/or uninhabited areas, so that those chemicals didn't fall down over the population?
Also, if it really was to fight global warming, why so much secret over this measure? Most people believe the story of the "global warming" already, then why hide this project from everyone around the world?
How can anyone fall for that explanation!!!
hagbard_celine
04-04-2009, 02:30 AM
I've signed the petition.:cool:
Are you sure this insider is real?:confused:
dinachick
04-04-2009, 02:41 AM
Maybe chemtrails are in part to promote Global Cooling.
hagbard_celine
04-04-2009, 02:43 AM
Maybe chemtrails are in part to promote Global Cooling.
I don't think Global Cooling needs any help from us!:D
john connor
04-04-2009, 11:18 AM
I don't think chemtrail spraying has much to do with Global warming in reflection.
The points made above are pure common sense.
To tell you the truth I don't think the petition will make one god dam bit of difference.
I have woken up this morning feeling very different.
Big reality bites. BIG TIME
If you heard the first 4 words on the 10 o'clock news last night you'll know what I mean.
The future is very very clear.
My visions are true and I have not been going mad.
It feels right to be angry now.
There is an awfal lot of disinfo about a lot of things, I do appreciate how you feel, my wife and I only started discovering the truth last year and it is mindblowing, hang in their more and more are waking up. They are spraying here in the East Midlands today:mad: 2 weeks in Paradise is well and truley over
poshrat
04-04-2009, 02:04 PM
I've signed the petition.:cool:
Are you sure this insider is real?:confused:
My friend is definitely real but the insiders/people who he is contacting can not be revealed to me. From what I can work out though they are Australian as the Government are against these programs.
hagbard_celine
04-04-2009, 02:12 PM
My friend is definitely real but the insiders/people who he is contacting can not be revealed to me. From what I can work out though they are Australian as the Government are against these programs.
OK, Posthat, thanks. Keep us informed as much as you can, mate. Good researching.:cool:
pipsicle
04-04-2009, 02:48 PM
Chemtrails are being used for climate change
From my source I quote his email:
"The plumes mainly contain aluminium in an attempt to prevent global warming - the reflective surfaces of the particles inhibit sunlight radiation. The consequence is that these particles ultimately end up in the water supply: Too much alluminium can harm humans and so other chemicals are added to restrict the harm - but its a viscious cirlcle as all additives have a consequence - most european countries have similar programs - China famously altered the weather (widely known) to prevent rain falling during the olympics and to improve air quality - The Russians have been doing this since the cold war; but the USA has by far the biggest threat by global warming and so their program which aso includes HAARP is by far the greatest. Military personnel have confirmed this and so has photo and video evidence which cannot be refuted. Of course they could also use this same technology to spray other Chems but I am still working on this - I have a list of the other additives that have been found and will pass them on in due course - sadly I cannot reveal my sources as this is part of an ongoing investigation within the confines of the documentary.
But I will support your cause and pass on info as I can release it.
You may post this information to others and blog if you feel it would help
Cheers"
He then puts his name.
It all makes sense to me now. I hope the Government will admit to this in the petition. As we have a right to know.
...The Insider *emails* posters???
hank_scorpio
04-04-2009, 05:32 PM
BULLSHIT chemtrails are being used for global warming its CAUSING IT. "insider", hmm dis-info to make sure people dont get too close to the truth.
marpat
04-04-2009, 06:28 PM
Chemtrails are being used for climate change
From my source I quote his email:
"The plumes mainly contain aluminium in an attempt to prevent global warming - the reflective surfaces of the particles inhibit sunlight radiation. The consequence is that these particles ultimately end up in the water supply: Too much alluminium can harm humans and so other chemicals are added to restrict the harm - but its a viscious cirlcle as all additives have a consequence - most european countries have similar programs - China famously altered the weather (widely known) to prevent rain falling during the olympics and to improve air quality - The Russians have been doing this since the cold war; but the USA has by far the biggest threat by global warming and so their program which aso includes HAARP is by far the greatest. Military personnel have confirmed this and so has photo and video evidence which cannot be refuted. Of course they could also use this same technology to spray other Chems but I am still working on this - I have a list of the other additives that have been found and will pass them on in due course - sadly I cannot reveal my sources as this is part of an ongoing investigation within the confines of the documentary.
But I will support your cause and pass on info as I can release it.
You may post this information to others and blog if you feel it would help
Cheers"
He then puts his name.
It all makes sense to me now. I hope the Government will admit to this in the petition. As we have a right to know.
Is this a joke? an anonymous post that claims to shed light on the situation.
Note that people often connect the idea of chemtrail to falling particles. If this is the case then why spray aluminium into the atmosphere when it will just fall from the sky? there is no reason why such particle should remain suspended in the air under the constant gravitational pull. If you create cloud cover you may prevent direct heating of the earths surface but you create a blanket effect so that any heat formed becomes trapped by the clouds so this is hardly going to combat global warming when the heat will be trapped.
If global warming is another cover up or scam then why would there be a secret chemtrailing plan to counter it?
poshrat
04-04-2009, 06:40 PM
...The Insider *emails* posters???
The person I am in contact is a documentary film maker/producer.
He is a contact/friend of mine on facebook.
I created a group and petition because I want to be proactive in finding the truth about what it is they are spraying.
I have a right to know especially as it is right over my head and I am breathing this shit in.
Plus I got so fed up up with all the conspiracy stuff on youtube.
I just want the truth.
Anyway, turns out my friend joined the group and emailed me saying he at this very time has been gathering research and evidence for a documentary and a book.
The people he is contacting don't know about me or this forum.
He doesn't know I have been posting here but is happy for me to share.
The info he has shared with me relates to GEOCONTROL the posh name for weather alteration.
I quote from his email:
"as I say Chem Trails are only part of the series and there are many others that have an equal amount of concern"
My thing is to get the government to admit they are spraying something deliberately in the sky for some reason and we the people have a right to know what it is and what they are doing. The fact they haven't said anything kinda says to me that if they did the people would go up in arms about it.
Now a delivery system has obviously been designed to spray stuff from planes. What is sprayed depends on who is spraying it and what their intentions are.
The first step is to get an admittance they are spraying but as he says it is the way you ask the questions. Again I quote from email...
I am not a conspiracist perse but have always distrusted responses form ours and other official sources - but it would seem that if we can prove that spraying exists - then the next step is to discover what is being sprayed, then why, for how long and the long term impact - and of course whhat would haapen if they WERE NOT spraying - Heres an example of hoe difficult this is - Is my car spraying exhaust fumes, or is it just releasing them ?? Or is it a consequence of the additives and the forward motion of the vehicle?? Unless you ask the right question in the first place you won't get the right answer, if any at all. Another is that unless you ask the right question to the right person. If I asked my mechanic to explain why my car emits carbon monoxide - he may not know the answer and even if he did he would not be able to tell me what the long term consequence to the environment woulb be. This is not a cover up - he genuinely does not know - so when we have the holy grail of footage from inside a miltary aircraft - we could be told when we present our 'evidence' that it could be 'oxygen !!!' Nothing is as ever simple as it seems, and everything is thought to be a conspiracy if we are not told enough about it and we feel that someone or some department is witholding information or giving out information which seems to contradict ourinvestigation. This is basic journalism - however I firmly believe that harm is being done and regularly and the long term consequences have not been considered.
I am very happy that he is contacting me as his information does make sense.
I have been searching myself on the web I found this looking under " Geocontrol "
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2056251/US-PATENT-by-NASA-Chemtrails-related
PATENT - NASA BARIUM ION CLOUD US3813875: ROCKET HAVING BARIUM RELEASE SYSTEM TO CREATE ION CLOUDS IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE Abstract: A chemical system for releasing a good yield of free barium (Ba�) atoms and barium ions (BA+) to create ion clouds in the upper atmosphere and interplanetary space for the study of the geophysical properties of the medium. Inventor(s): Paine; Thomas O. Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration with respect to an invention of , Hampton, VA 23364 Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972 Application Number: US1972000248761 CLAIMS: What is claimed as new and desired to be secured by Letters Patent of the United States is: 1. Apparatus for releasing free barium atoms and barium ions in the upper atmosphere to emit resonance radiation in the form of a luminous cloud comprising: a rocket vehicle capable of being launched into the upper atmosphere of earth, a longitudinally configured payload carried by said rocket vehicle, said payload including: a fuel tank disposed at one end of the payload, an oxidizer tank disposed at the opposite end of the payload, and an open ended combustion chamber diametrically disposed intermediate said fuel tank and said oxidizer tank and with both ends thereof being open to the atmosphere, conduit means connecting said fuel tank and said oxidizer tank to said combustion chamber, valve means disposed in said conduit means for selectively permitting fluid flow from said fuel tank and said oxidizer tank into said combustion chamber, a liquid fuel having a quantity of barium salts dissolved therein disposed within said fuel tank, a liquid oxidizer disposed in said oxidizer tank, said liquid fuel and said liquid oxidizer having the inherent chemical property characteristics of undergoing a hypergolic reaction upon contact with each other whereby, when said valve means permit flow of said liquid fuel and said liquid oxidizer into said combusion chamber the resulting hypergolic reaction releases a high yield of luminous barium atoms and barium ions. 2. The apparatus of claim 1 wherein the liquid fuel is selected from the group consisting of hydrazine and liquid ammonia. 3. The apparatus of claim 2 wherein the barium salts contained in the liquid fuel is a mixture of barium chloride and barium nitrate. 4. The apparatus of claim 1 wherein the liquid oxidizer is selected from the group consisting of F2, OF2 and ClF3.
Probably nothing new but does mention Barium.
mightiswrong
04-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Ultimately I think or should I say I know that the solution to this and all the other problems we are facing is to set up kin's domains. I really hope people are thinking this thru because kin's domains are the answer. May they appear hastefully. I have had some dreams recently about them. Remember dreams are not random you are creating them yourself and they will come true unless challenged. Believe me I am not challenging my dreams about kin's domains.
antinwo
05-04-2009, 01:47 PM
I just got back from the Maldives - Paradise- NOT a chemtrail in sight for 2 weeks, red hot every day, Real puffy clouds and brilliant hot sun...why no trails their???????? ...maybe because its not populated enough? sorry I dont buy this ...I was on an inhalor before I went and had breathing problems in chemtrail Britain, 2 weeks in Paradise and Im fine, lets see how long before the crap starts again...boy did it feel good to see BLUE skies, I cant think of many palces that get as much sun...so why no trails?????
God I wish I could go there. I have constant chest infection after chest infection here in the north east of england and I am constantly using inhalers thanks to the bastards who spray the chemicals in the air:mad:
marpat
05-04-2009, 05:15 PM
God I wish I could go there. I have constant chest infection after chest infection here in the north east of england and I am constantly using inhalers thanks to the bastards who spray the chemicals in the air:mad:
Thats crap because my family and I are from that area. My wife has asthma but it is not affected by 'chemtrails'. In fact he condition has improved over the past few years.
endlessvista
05-04-2009, 05:23 PM
on a side note the Earth's magnetic field is losing its strenght rapidly and has been been getting worse in the last 20 years.
The media has kept this very quiet, but that magnetic field deflects solar radiation.
calico
05-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Where I live, Pacific NW, we have been getting pounded by these things for the last 2 days. It has been relentless. Whatever else the larger purpose, this desecration of the sky creates negative emotional effects including feelings of helplessness and hatred towards the bastards committing these crimes (at least for those of us who bother to look up and observe). We are coming off a (typically) gloomy winter - we should have had completely clear blue skies for the last 2 days (and today). Instead, we've got a fucking soupy mess. We need the sun and blue skies when we can get them this time of year for our mental health. I despair that we'll never be allowed another magnificent blue sky (and the most beautiful blue skies are possible here). It's incredibly sad and distressing.
I also don't believe this program has anything to do with "saving us" from global warming. I have suspected that when enough people started pulling their heads out of their collective asses and noticing what's going on in the sky this would be the explanation. Bullshit piled on bullshit.
size_of_light
05-04-2009, 07:00 PM
My friend is definitely real but the insiders/people who he is contacting can not be revealed to me. From what I can work out though they are Australian as the Government are against these programs.
If the Australian Government is against these programs then they mustn't be aware that the offenders are using Sale RAAF base to carry them out.
lizzy
05-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Where I live, Pacific NW, we have been getting pounded by these things for the last 2 days. It has been relentless. Whatever else the larger purpose, this desecration of the sky creates negative emotional effects including feelings of helplessness and hatred towards the bastards committing these crimes (at least for those of us who bother to look up and observe). We are coming off a (typically) gloomy winter - we should have had completely clear blue skies for the last 2 days (and today). Instead, we've got a fucking soupy mess. We need the sun and blue skies when we can get them this time of year for our mental health. I despair that we'll never be allowed another magnificent blue sky (and the most beautiful blue skies are possible here). It's incredibly sad and distressing.
I also don't believe this program has anything to do with "saving us" from global warming. I have suspected that when enough people started pulling their heads out of their collective asses and noticing what's going on in the sky this would be the explanation. Bullshit piled on bullshit.
hi calico.......welcome:)
I'm in Pac. NW....good post.......it is indeed BS pliled on BS.......
I think the spraying creates warming by reflecting the sunlight , trapping gases , causing greenhouse effect.
TPTB have SO much riding on global warming..we have to be made to believe it.........and as of late many scientists are distancing themselves from it.....but the next tax burdens and global carbon tax credit market / rip -off is all based on the premise.......
antinwo
05-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Thats crap because my family and I are from that area. My wife has asthma but it is not affected by 'chemtrails'. In fact he condition has improved over the past few years.
Ok Mr Know it all, I do apologise:rolleyes:
realfake
06-04-2009, 09:30 PM
on a side note the Earth's magnetic field is losing its strenght rapidly and has been been getting worse in the last 20 years.
The media has kept this very quiet, but that magnetic field deflects solar radiation.It is now more than just a breach.
Data from NASA's THEMIS satellite has shown that a 4,000-mile-thick (6,437 kilometer) layer of solar particles has gathered within the outermost part of the magnetosphere and it is rapidly growing.
The 'protective bubble' created by Earth's magnetic field is no longer doing its job.