The Biggest Manipulation?

[adbasque]

Have we all been manipulated

What I am about to write here, is no way an intention to offend anyone in anyway form or shape.

We wonder why crime is on the rise?
We wonder why families are breaking up?
We wonder why common courtesy is out of the window?
We wonder why all of these social problems start occuring?

The answers were found deep within us

In the early 60s, the woman's movement started taking place with force, we know that the programme itself was funded by the CIA and exported world wide
to encourage a woman to go out and work, but it had absolutely nothing to do, with women's freedom or liberty, that's what millions and millions of people lead to believe.
Only in the recent years people started waking up to the idea behind all of this.

When woman were staying at home, they were doing the most important and toughest job of all, raising the children.
A mother is not just a woman who stays at home, cooks, cleans she was the backbone of our society of any society.

And then came the movement to "free" women or was it?
The reason teenagers don't know any respect, it not their fault
because the poor mother is out working all day, she comes home, start cooking doing all the house chores, and by the time she finishes, she so knakered to sit and talk to her children.

or it's time for them to go to bed, because they have school the next day, she so tired to hold a proper conversation with them anyway.

So she collapses, falls asleep on the sofa, she'll be lucky if she gets time to shower before going to bed.

But the questions is why did they encourage a woman to go out and work?

well the answer is simple when you think about it very carefully
let's take a typical family here two adults and two children, right?

The father works, right?
then the state only has one person to tax, and not only that the wife will get more alloances if she stays at home, but if they can get her out to work, they have two people to tax, and give them maybe 1/5 for the "children".

The other thing, if a woman stays at home, she can raise her children a lot better than all of the social environments, like playgroups, childminders and so on.

Hold on a minute here, I am not knocking childminders down, not at all, but nobody can raise your children better than you, and that's a fact.
You know your kids better than anyone and you can discipline them better than anyone else.

and thirdly we know that women are paid less than men, generally speaking of course there are women who earn a very good living too.
but mainly men earn a lot more than women.

So on one hand they can get the woman out to work, she can pay them instead of them paying her.
And by doing this the state will have more access to her children and shape them to what they want them to grow up like.
using all other means
Curiculum
Videos
Games
Television
Magazines
and so on the list is endless
that way men are mixed at work with women, adulteries happen, because the temptation is there and it's constant.
that leads to breakage of the family bonds, which gives them more control over people's lives.

I know maybe a lot of you, will find this as nonsense or as BS, but it's ok
I can live with the criticism, and that doesn't change the truth behind it.

If it's not the aim from the establishment, then why did the CIA fund the movement?

I have read on several forums when women would love to stay at home and look after their children and see them grow, that's the most beautiful thing they want to do in their lives.
I am not saying all women want that, some women don't even want to have a child.
your views please, go easy on me :( i am only stating what I truly believe happened and still happenning

[bornagain]

Well if the daddy is not lazy he can help out with talking with the kids and cleaning the house. opps I forgot that's the woman's work to be a slave around the house. :rolleyes:

I am by no means disagreeing with you I would be all up for being a stay at home wife, but the thing is you won't keep all the women out of the workforce because some are destined to become more than just a mother, (me on the other hand to lazy to work, i have books to write instead) :D As long as the women and men have the same rights and give 50/50 in their families, than I have a no problem with that.



To other posters whom this might infuriate, do not feed the trolls sometimes their goal is to divide the genders, keep cautious people.


~Born Again

[adbasque]

Well if the daddy is not lazy he can help out with talking with the kids and cleaning the house. opps I forgot that's the woman's work to be a slave around the house. :rolleyes:

I am by no means disagreeing with you I would be all up for being a stay at home wife, but the thing is you won't keep all the women out of the workforce because some are destined to become more than just a mother, (me on the other hand to lazy to work, i have books to write instead) :D As long as the women and men have the same rights and give 50/50 in their families, than I have a no problem with that.



To other posters whom this might infuriate, do not feed the trolls sometimes their goal is to divide the genders, keep cautious people.


~Born Again

No I think you misunderstood me, a man must help around the house, no excuse whatsoever.
But I was talking in most cases a single mother, for example she is alone with two kids, she shouldn't go out and work (unless she desires)

Please read the post one more time, in anyway I was knocking women, I did say go easy on me :(
:D
And I am certainly not trying to divide the genders, nowdays men can do what women do and vice versa,
I was merely stating some women's wishes and it's true thata woman is the backbone of any society.

You can look back in the past, courtesy, generosity, understanding, and so on all of these things have disappeared, not by accident.

[bornagain]

No I think you misunderstood me, a man must help around the house, no excuse whatsoever.
But I was talking in most cases a single mother, for example she is alone with two kids, she shouldn't go out and work (unless she desires)

Please read the post one more time, in anyway I was knocking women, I did say go easy on me :(
:D

Why do you think their are single women moms? because the men are so degenerated by media, culture and the "manhood" to actually take the responsibility of their kids.
Okay, but where does the mother get her income from if not working?



~Born Again

[adbasque]

Why do you think their are single women moms? because the men are so degenerated by media, culture and the "manhood" to actually take the responsibility of their kids.
Okay, but where does the mother get her income from if not working?



~Born Again

When I said a woman shouldn't work, in brackets unless she desires to, I meant the state should pay any woman who wishes to stay at home, as if she is working from 9 to 5.

Because she is raising children, she is not going to live on "some tax credit" or stupid schemes they seem to give families nowdays.
And then if a woman decides to go out and work, or follow a career than it's her choice.

At the moment it's like most families are forced to go out to work, the old system, was scrapped for over 30 + years maybe more.

Yes if a woman is found as a single mother with two or more kids, it's not necessarily her fault, the father buggered off and remaried soemwhere, they should force him to contribute to his children.

[adbasque]

I aprreciate this is a very delicate subject, but I am willing to take it on the chin :D

[bornagain]

When I said a woman shouldn't work, in brackets unless she desires to, I meant the state should pay any woman who wishes to stay at home, as if she is working from 9 to 5.

Because she is raising children, she is not going to live on "some tax credit" or stupid schemes they seem to give families nowdays.
And then if a woman decides to go out and work, or follow a career than it's her choice.

At the moment it's like most families are forced to go out to work, the old system, was scrapped for over 30 + years maybe more.

Yes if a woman is found as a single mother with two or more kids, it's not necessarily her fault, the father buggered off and remaried soemwhere, they should force him to contribute to his children.


Great idea about the paying but where will the governments get the money, from. Well unless after 30 from now the nwo is gone and we established a new governing system, maybe then but at this time definitely not.
Well, than forcing a man to contribute to a child would be more government control.

To solve this problem people really need to change their sexual mentality because the world that we are living in is definitely screwed up especially spiritually and sex only slows our spiritual progression, so therefore in my opinion there needs to be a change of values which would say that it is not okay for a man to bang every single woman may it be prostitute he could find.

Or their could be some sort of magical pill which would not let women get pregnant, so the poor "useless" children will not suffer through their lifetime.


~Born Again

[adbasque]

Great idea about the paying but where will the governments get the money,
Did you know that the government has an average of 24 billion a year profit?
where does that money go?

forcing a man to contribute to a child would be more government control.
to force a man to face his responsibility nothing more nothing less


To solve this problem people really need to change their sexual mentality because the world that we are living in is definitely screwed up especially spiritually and sex only slows our spiritual progression
Totally agree with you here I have nothing more to add, well said ! :)


So therefore in my opinion there needs to be a change of values which would say that it is not okay for a man to bang every single woman may it be prostitute he could find.

Here again I heartedly agree with you, now they are trying to legalise the prostitution, so they can tax them :)


Or their could be some sort of magical pill which would not let women get pregnant, so the poor "useless" children will not suffer through their lifetime.
~Born Again

The key is a good education, back to my initial suggestion, back to basics,
when I was a teenager I was not allowed to bring a girl in to my house, or go in to her house, if her father doesn't kill me, her brother will :D

Yes people need to restrict themselves, I won't hold my breath on a magical pill, because the people who manufacture them, do want chaos in our society, they don't want a good society with good values.

They worked hard to eradicate them
There you have it

[annahughes]

yes, I have to agree with you. Women were encouraged to go out and work with the hidden aims of collecting more taxes and weakening the family structure. Housewife has become a dirty word and women are encouraged to be independent and liberate themselves from the kitchen sink. The liberation of women was as hollow as the 'end of apartheid'. You ask any woman working a crappy low paid job. Sure there are plenty of women out there with decent jobs but the vast majority are in part time or low paid jobs. Look around you, most managerial and white collar work is still the domain of men. A lot of families are actually worse off now and can't afford to have one parent remain at home. This hasn't just affected families but has also impacted on communities, people leave early for work, do long hours and get home late. Is it surprising that a lot of people barely know their neighbours names? I'm not suggesting that women should have to stay home but househusband has as much if not more stigma attached to it than housewife. Surely whichever parent stays at home with the kids is deserving of as much respect as the one who works. Women have been brainwashed by the feminist movement and made to feel bad if they don't want to go out and work. But how hard would it be to stay at home (new technologies have taken a lot of the burden out of housework) and watch your kids grow up. Would that really be so bad? The worst things about it would be the lack of value of your role and financial dependence. Surely those things could be addressed by a media campaign and strong child support policies. True equality would allow people to make a genuine choice.

[adbasque]

yes, I have to agree with you. Women were encouraged to go out and work with the hidden aims of collecting more taxes and weakening the family structure. Housewife has become a dirty word and women are encouraged to be independent and liberate themselves from the kitchen sink. The liberation of women was as hollow as the 'end of apartheid'. You ask any woman working a crappy low paid job. Sure there are plenty of women out there with decent jobs but the vast majority are in part time or low paid jobs. Look around you, most managerial and white collar work is still the domain of men. A lot of families are actually worse off now and can't afford to have one parent remain at home. This hasn't just affected families but has also impacted on communities, people leave early for work, do long hours and get home late. Is it surprising that a lot of people barely know their neighbours names? I'm not suggesting that women should have to stay home but househusband has as much if not more stigma attached to it than housewife. Surely whichever parent stays at home with the kids is deserving of as much respect as the one who works. Women have been brainwashed by the feminist movement and made to feel bad if they don't want to go out and work. But how hard would it be to stay at home (new technologies have taken a lot of the burden out of housework) and watch your kids grow up. Would that really be so bad? The worst things about it would be the lack of value of your role and financial dependence. Surely those things could be addressed by a media campaign and strong child support policies. True equality would allow people to make a genuine choice.

You said it :)
This is exactly what I was trying to put through to people, without being crucified for saying it, it has become almost a taboo, a very delicate subject.
I am for women's liberties and they deserve more than what they are getting as "liberty" this is not a real liberation.

It had two or more hidden aims.

[astrochicken]

You said it :)
This is exactly what I was trying to put through to people, without being crucified for saying it, it has become almost a taboo, a very delicate subject.
I am for women's liberties and they deserve more than what they are getting as "liberty" this is not a real liberation.

It had two or more hidden aims.


Hidden aims a plenty.

Fuck up the idea of a family.State control of children. And a 50% increase in
tax earnings.

I'm a bloke and i would quite happily stay at home with the kids if
it were economically viable.

[adbasque]

Hidden aims a plenty.

Fuck up the idea of a family.State control of children. And a 50% increase in
tax earnings.

I'm a bloke and i would quite happily stay at home with the kids if
it were economically viable.

Nowdays, it's almost impossible for a family to have just one bread winner, except the people who earn 100k + a year.

Now it's obvious, the gap between working families and the rich keeps widening
it gets bigger and bigger by the day

no middle class anymore, just the filthy rich and the very poor.
I was talking to my son today I said, remember about 90% of the rich people, either stole the money, cheated, or their ancestors cheated.

an idiot that kicks a ball earns 50 000 a week, is this right?
some people don't earn that much a year, I know people some teachers earn less than 20 000 year, they teach our children and they earn sod all.

Bankers earn on average between 50 000 to 900 000 a year plus all the expenses, and many other investements, of course once you have the money you can't stop getting richer and richer, because money calls money.

and that's why some people have nothing at all, they are in debts every end of month and both work longer hours they don't get to see they kids.

And we think we live in a free society? but we deserve everything that is happening to us.

We were stupid full stop.
we can only blame ourselves for being dumb, I know it's hard to take in but it's the truth.

[oiram]

I told them so when they started this shit also all our Parents warned them!

But as usual they always smarter then there parents, reason & reality they have there free choice; so face it by you're self now.

Children make mistakes that's why they need the complete set of Parents "which we called the Family long time ago" to help them along.
Once you left your Parents house you an Adult which makes choices; which you are fully responsible for on a individual base.

No one gave a shit & now I don't give a shit anymore let them rot in the bottomless pit!

The smallest Government in a Government is the Family once you destroyed it you only left with shit & don't the Governments like to create shit!
They are very well aware of this fact & is part of there overall agenda.

Look around you're self's what do you see?? I see a lot of shit like I predicted & warned them about!

Well they did not like to listen now they finally feel it! "Good"

That's right & I told them 28 years ago now they can try to clean there own shit them self's!

Do I feel sorry for them now ..... absolutely not.

The once I feel sorry for are the children they produced having no experience of the protecting Family.

You done the crime you do the time. "Full Stop" & don't blame anyone but you're self. http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/banana.gif

OP ... No they have not been Manipulated they had there own brain to think about it & they made there own choice!

And once you people which are asking the question now really understand that money never ever was the problem; then you will get even more pissed of why you helped them to destroy the Family structure by you're own stupid choice.

The once which already understand the real money system understand exactly what I am talking about. "Money is man made & only the controllers are mad maniacs.

But the truth will be known to all very soon; then you can have you're revenge on the once which are fully responsible for all the mess you see all around you.

When this time comes I will get my self some nice popcorn & I will enjoy the great party.

The Elites & Goverments know exactly what is on the way & what they did wrong all there lifes; that's why they love to get there global War going because there own toilets are overflowing right now.