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adimon
01-04-2009, 05:22 AM
Normally I recoil in horror from Wikipedia, but this article is actually a nice, neat bringing together of different philosophical debates. Thought I'd share it with ya. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life

thedivinetruth
01-04-2009, 05:45 AM
interesting

empty v
03-04-2009, 06:08 PM
the meaning of life is find joy

if you are not in bliss regularly, you are doing something wrong

you need to spread your love around, but first you need to love yourself


everything is at our disposal, whatever we want to be, do, see, live, is ours.
we just need to visualize it into existence


spread love around, and love yourself and all these problems will take care of themselves

or they wont be allowed to manifest in your reality, because its not what reflects in your mind


look up the law of attraction, or any vids by jerry & esther hicks





just my opinion btw

adimon
04-04-2009, 04:08 AM
Yes I think joy is a very good cause. Shared joy of course, not hedonism or narcissism.

I intend to do perhaps a couple more years of research and assist with the exposing of the conspirators who are undermining our world, and then retire into peace and a quiet life somewhere.

branjo
04-04-2009, 03:06 PM
I think the answer is already in the question.

To give life meaning, is the meaning of life.

adimon
26-04-2009, 02:16 AM
Very Nietzschean, branjo

"Make one's life a work of art" - like that!

Any other thoughts, people?

oiram
26-04-2009, 05:18 AM
The Meaning of Life

Work for Evil
Pay Taxes to Evil
Work more for Evil
Pay Evil for being on this Planet
Fight Corruption, Evil & the liars all you're life
Pay you're fees to the corrupt Lawyers & Corrupt Court system & anti human laws.
Work even Harder for Evil
Get sick regularly so you pay for medical treatments so the Evil system makes Profit.

Wait & dream for a God or some Aliens all your life to get you off this fucking sick Planet infested by Evil Parasites.

Then if you lucky & the Evil Governments or some good neighbors did not kill you; just die to see what this entire shit was all about & if there is anything else after this Evil Hellhole.

Thank you Satan & all his proud Voting followers.

I really had a great time & enjoyed my stay on Prison Planet!

And I thank my Spirit to be strong to respect Evil & that I always followed all Criminals with all there criminal laws; respected all Humans & never killed any evil person for being evil all there lives to me & all others.

What a blessing this was & so much Love all the way to death.

Don't lie again & tell me you had it much better.

Now I finally found my answer why we have to die & what a blessing to finally get out of this hellhole!





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orbandsceptre27
26-04-2009, 05:29 AM
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branjo
26-04-2009, 09:20 PM
Very Nietzschean, branjo

"Make one's life a work of art" - like that!

Any other thoughts, people?

lol yeah sorry about that, not exactly an answer at all really :o

Ok, I should elaborate on my "current" take on things.

I don't see evil everywhere anymore, anywhere. I don't see the nwo as evil I don't see any race "T" or "ET" as evil. I have begun to just see things as they can be.

I don't care if 5.5 billion people are going to be killed or if the earth is going to be destroyed in a catastrophe or about the starving children in Africa dying every second of every day, as you can tell by that statement I don't do "guilt" either.

In fact I am trying to not focus on any negativity because the most important thing in life is positivity. Even the most seedy of criminals do what they do to feel better, their moral and ethical compass may be truly fucked up but the direction is the same for us all, ie to feel good. Its our "feeling good techniques" are what needs to be fixed, and it may be hard to hear but you can't fix anyone else but yourself, and if you are not "fixed" by your own standards then you have no right to infringe on anyone elses, no matter how much negativity they are drowning in, its like throwing a drowning man a concrete life jacket, your intentions may be good but he had more of a chance if you would have just left him alone to save himself.

There are a ton of reasons to feel bad and depressed with the state of the world today but you know what, until you realize that the suffering we are feeling actually is the illusion then you will continue to play the game at a great disadvantage.

If people want to make you feel angry, afraid, sad, guilty, shame or pity, then just don't, and don't feel it all over again just because you think like that.

There is always a simple answer for everything, no matter how hard you try to avoid the question. The simple way doesn't mean "easy" it just means basic. If you feel like you can sacrifice something to save someone then don't even think about it, just do it, and if you don't want to, then don't beat yourself up about it either.

One thing that has started to take hold of me is the "unimportance" of life, let me be clear about this so you don't get the wrong idea. Life is beautiful and wonderful but its not as scarce or as solitary as we have been led to believe.

Loving life too much can have a flip side in fearing death. You didn't ask to be born but you were born nonetheless through being given some sort of cosmic "choice" of when, where, who and what, and hey presto, you exist. Now is this life your only existence? I think most of us are long past the grip of religion and fear of eternal damnation to know that no matter what befalls us in life, it will not remove us from existence.

So if death is not a bad thing in fact death is the biggest compliment to life, because it gives you the choice back of the who,when, where and what again. Then why do we protect ourselves from death so much? Is it from a fear of "no life" or a fear of "living"?, ie if we don't do certain things in life will we be rewarded with more life?<--the promise of religion.

If we are not our bodies and we are not our minds then how can we place our existence in either body or mind, only the body and mind know pain, only the body and mind feel fear. Life itself is suffering so just get over it, love all your pain, and love all your experiences because one day you will laugh at them as the most entertaining aspect of that life.

The game we all love to talk about is the game of remembering, the only rules to the game is that you forget the last time you played it. Sometimes in your best or worst moment you have a sense of knowing that comforts you. The realization that whatever you do won't make a difference because trying to change the game "within" the game is pointless. You make all those choices before you enter it, so either stay and play or give up, those are your most basic choices, but you have to make the choice through actual memory of the rules of the game, or you will enter again where you left off.

So "you" choose to be in fear, "you" choose to be in pain, because "you" wanted to have that experience under your belt like a student wants a phd.
If you are letting the game dictate who you are above "mind and body" then stop right there because it can't, you are not the game you are playing anymore than you are a game of chess when your playing that too.

Negative emotions all come from the same place, its what we feel in the absence of positivity. The positive is where you want to be always but with a dualistic mind you set yourself up for the coming negativity because that's how you have been taught through many incarnations here. We have turned ourselves into the chess pieces of the game and not the controlling force behind it. The problem is when you focus your consciousness into the chess pieces then you are believing you are bound to the life and movements of those chess pieces, those chess pieces are fighting for their lives to win that game but they have no memory of the last game or have any idea that there will always be another game, so they are locked within the boundaries of the game of chess and the "reality" of the chess board.

We are all one, and we are a bloody smart one, because we made the split in such a way that only true purpose and realization of oneness will complete us, we know everything that we would think if a hurdle or obstacle was placed in our path and we know how hard a way around it or over it would be. We are the "one" testing our self, not a separate entity called "god" that we are only one with when we are "good". That's why religion is the biggest hurdle for most people, because when you are not "good" you are passed on to the god of "bad" or "evil" to deal with you which is absurd because that is not oneness at all, that is still the dualistic mind trying to make sense of a choice that it doesn't underatand.

God loves you like "you" love you, you can treat yourself any which way you choose and life will do the same because we will all agree that you are this or that because the part of us that is you is being respected by the part of you that is "us".

So if your a skinhead neo Nazi that's got a problem with every other person on the planet then every other person on the planet agrees with you that you are a shallow minded wanker, where's the surprise in that? ...lol.

If you were to be totally and utterly cool with who you are then how could anyone else see you as anything other than being totally cool, that's all it takes. When you are at peace and in harmony with yourself, then the rest of the world will treat you as you want to be treated.

If you are afraid of the nwo or the power of the police or a particular religion then you are holding up a big sign to the rest of oneness (ie you) that says "Here I am, I am open to being controlled and having the shit scared out of me", so again, where is the problem when someone does that for you?

Your life is only a reflection of how you feel about yourself this time around, there is no love of life because we only love things that we never want to let go of, you actually can never be without life so stop thinking that this one life is everything because its not, its but a drip in an infinite ocean, it will never run out and it will never give you anything you don't want to be given. The sooner we all (including myself) realize that then the sooner we can just laugh at what once scared us, and we turn this life into a relaxing and potentially beautiful experience that can handle all the pain in it like a body handles a cold shower, just a temporary uneasiness but ultimately a refreshing experience.

And to end it on another Nietzschean proverb, ;)

"Be him who you are"

neutron flux
26-04-2009, 10:23 PM
The short answer would be to learn, grow, and find the real *I* by breaking down the false personality and building the will to DO - seeking the most objective view of reality possible. Or maybe that's just me. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QJvc_SxFQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9PzSNy3xj0

branjo
26-04-2009, 10:59 PM
lol yeah but one liners really don't say anything, I am slowly learning that, either I explain myself or I give a one liner and hope that someone gets where i am coming from. Partly the reason I don't have a little titbit of wisdom after my posts, its just misleading to what way we are taking it to mean and someone else will take it another way, or form an opinion of you on their own.

P.S I don't mean "you" in the literal sense, the you as in "the reader".

adimon
27-04-2009, 02:16 AM
Thanks branjo and neutronflux! :)

Lots of food for thought in these posts!

"Thankyoupleasecomeagain"

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

orbandsceptre27
27-04-2009, 04:39 AM
I think the answer is already in the question.
To give life meaning, is the meaning of life.

Why do you give it meaning in the first place... if there`s meaning to life do you not put it there?

I am slowly learning that, either I explain myself or I give a one liner and hope that someone gets where i am coming from.

How can you explain yourself if there is only "I"... is there a you and a self?

People want to be happy with themselves/proud of themselves, not wanting to be sad and angry in themselves........ but there is only one "self."

Language helps keep people in mental prisons.

oiram
27-04-2009, 04:59 AM
I don't care if 5.5 billion people are going to be killed or if the earth is going to be destroyed in a catastrophe or about the starving children in Africa dying every second of every day, as you can tell by that statement I don't do "guilt" either.

In fact I am trying to not focus on any negativity because the most important thing in life is positivity. Even the most seedy of criminals do what they do to feel better, their moral and ethical compass may be truly fucked up but the direction is the same for us all, ie to feel good. Its our "feeling good techniques" are what needs to be fixed, and it may be hard to hear but you can't fix anyone else but yourself, and if you are not "fixed" by your own standards then you have no right to infringe on anyone elses, no matter how much negativity they are drowning in, its like throwing a drowning man a concrete life jacket, your intentions may be good but he had more of a chance if you would have just left him alone to save himself.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

orbandsceptre27
27-04-2009, 05:40 AM
I don't care if 5.5 billion people are going to be killed or if the earth is going to be destroyed in a catastrophe or about the starving children in Africa dying every second of every day, as you can tell by that statement I don't do "guilt" either.

I can tell from that statement, there is a lack of empathy for your fellow man.

In fact I am trying to not focus on any negativity because the most important thing in life is positivity.

By focusing on one you attach yourself to the other. Positivity and negativity cannot be separated. This is dualism, one of the great illusions.

Its our "feeling good techniques" are what needs to be fixed, and it may be hard to hear but you can't fix anyone else but yourself

Again why do you need to fix yourself?

The above statement reminds me of a piece from Anthony de Mellos book "Awareness" where de Mello states most people don`t want to wake up. Just fix their "broken toys" (feel good techniques) and hand them back. You can`t feel bad/or good all the time - just see that you are not your feelings.


and if you are not "fixed" by your own standards then you have no right to infringe on anyone elses, no matter how much negativity they are drowning in, its like throwing a drowning man a concrete life jacket, your intentions may be good but he had more of a chance if you would have just left him alone to save himself.

There is nobody else to save, only to realize who you are.

adimon
27-04-2009, 05:45 AM
There is nobody else to save, only to realize who you are.

Do you know who he is?

orbandsceptre27
27-04-2009, 06:21 AM
Do you know who he is?

I don`t know who anyone is Adimon.

gushen
27-04-2009, 11:26 AM
I think the answer is already in the question.

To give life meaning, is the meaning of life.

This conclusion has the same problem as in the "the truth is that there is no truth" one that I hear often in other forums.

if you say that the meaning is to give meaning, then you are saying that there IS a meaning and this means we should not need to give one. In other words, you are contradicting yourself. I reckon that existence is paradoxical but your answer is no answer in logical terms, unless OP is not worried with logic.

lakkimakki
27-04-2009, 11:54 AM
The Meaning of Life

keep on living , when silver cord breakz , you die; and informarion returnz back to colective.

:(

relentless
27-04-2009, 12:04 PM
what is "meaning"

noewhan
27-04-2009, 12:31 PM
what is "meaning"


Noun: meaning mee-ning

1. The message that is intended or expressed or signified
"what is the meaning of this sentence"
- significance, signification, import

2. The idea that is intended
"What is the meaning of this proverb?"
- substance

Adjective: meaning mee-ning

1. Rich in significance or implication
"a meaning look"
- pregnant, significant

Verb: mean (meant) meen

1. Have the intention to express or convey; have a particular sense or meaning
"You never understand what I mean!"
- intend

2. Have as a logical consequence
"The water shortage means that we have to stop taking long showers"
- entail, imply

3. Denote or connote
"'maison' means 'house' in French"; "An example sentence would show what this word means"
- intend, signify, stand for

4. Have in mind as a purpose
"I mean no harm"; "I only meant to help you"
- intend, think

5. Have a specified degree of importance
"My ex-husband means nothing to me"; "Happiness means everything"

6. Intend to refer to
"Yes, I meant you when I complained about people who gossip!"
- think of, have in mind

7. Destine or designate for a certain purpose
"These flowers were meant for you"

Derived forms: meanings

See also: meaningful

http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/MEANING

mean·ing (mnng)
n.
1. Something that is conveyed or signified; sense or significance.
2. Something that one wishes to convey, especially by language: The writer's meaning was obscured by his convoluted prose.
3. An interpreted goal, intent, or end: "The central meaning of his pontificate is to restore papal authority" Conor Cruise O'Brien.
4. Inner significance: "But who can comprehend the meaning of the voice of the city?" O. Henry.
adj.
1. Full of meaning; expressive.
2. Disposed or intended in a specified manner. Often used in combination: a well-meaning fellow; ill-meaning intentions.
Synonyms: meaning, acceptation, import, sense, significance, signification
These nouns refer to the idea conveyed by something, such as a word, action, gesture, or situation: Synonyms are words with the same or nearly the same meaning. In one of its acceptations value is a technical term in music. The import of his statement is ambiguous. The term anthropometry has only one sense. The significance of a green traffic light is widely understood. Linguists have determined the hieroglyphics' signification.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
meaning
Noun
1. the sense or significance of a word, sentence, or symbol
2. the inner, symbolic, or true interpretation or message: the meaning of the New Testament

Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meaning

gushen
27-04-2009, 12:31 PM
what is "meaning"

Good question. The concept of meaning implies that nothing is quite what it is, but rather is representative of something else.

In the very "what is the meaning of life" question lies the assumption that existence/life is something else instead of being just what it is.

In other words, this question itself may be hiding one's denial of facing the true essence of life, which is living, or life itself.

relentless
27-04-2009, 12:37 PM
Good question.

In other words, this question itself may be hiding


do you know what I mean?

gushen
27-04-2009, 12:47 PM
i guess you were questioning the validity of the question.

relentless
27-04-2009, 12:55 PM
i guess you were questioning the validity of the question.


only you and i can give it meaning, with the use of language

branjo
27-04-2009, 08:10 PM
This conclusion has the same problem as in the "the truth is that there is no truth" one that I hear often in other forums.

if you say that the meaning is to give meaning, then you are saying that there IS a meaning and this means we should not need to give one. In other words, you are contradicting yourself. I reckon that existence is paradoxical but your answer is no answer in logical terms, unless OP is not worried with logic.

Sorry I should have said "existence is paradoxical" that would have cleared it all up and the thread could have been closed and stamped "resolved"...:D

adimon
27-04-2009, 08:24 PM
Sorry I should have said "existence is paradoxical" that would have cleared it all up and the thread could have been closed and stamped "resolved"...:D

:eek: Resolved?

No, I want to hear lots more thoughts on this! Sil vous plait?

branjo
27-04-2009, 08:48 PM
he he :D No doubt you will my friend, The title is like gravity..lol

gushen
27-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Sorry I should have said "existence is paradoxical" that would have cleared it all up and the thread could have been closed and stamped "resolved"...:D

well, someday it was to be resolved like you describe because there are simply too many people in the world asking questions and failing to know the answers.

In theory it can be resolved. i think that this relativism that some of you guys tend to fall into (e.g. "there is no final answer") has exceeded its value and now we need some real answers. How long until we keep asking the same question, generation after generation? Maybe we are in denial of knowing the answers. These are the limits of modern philosophy in my opinion: never ending discussion and no solutions. Philosophy has lost its place in a practical world.

I think that you should not underestimate the importance of "existence is paradoxical". It may be mere words, but I could write much more about it to show that this could very well be the final answer. But I guess that other flies will fall into this "magnet" to answer in my place right? I guess not. They will just keep going on and on.

Anyway, I reckon that a real answer will never appear in a thread like this, but this does not stop me from trying. Do you blame me from trying?

branjo
27-04-2009, 09:48 PM
Ahh ok...can you point me to the post where you actually "tried" cause i'd be interested to read it. All you seem to have done is spend your time dissecting the question and replies of other people without actually attempting to give your own account of the meaning to life, unless of course that is the meaning to your life.

Asking questions is no crime and not a waste of time either, Adimon wanted to know what people think the meaning of life is to them, not the answer that will end the need to ask the question. I think your overindulging your self with your statement of "existence is paradoxical", its quite deflective of the question you seem to have a hard time fashioning an answer for.

Do I blame you for trying, is that an attempt to draw me into saying "yes I blame you for trying" so you can rebut that with another deflective answer from the subject at hand

So here is your chance to cut out all the shit, you have the floor.

Tell us what the meaning of life is for you?

gushen
27-04-2009, 11:05 PM
Ahh ok...can you point me to the post where you actually "tried" cause i'd be interested to read it. All you seem to have done is spend your time dissecting the question and replies of other people without actually attempting to give your own account of the meaning to life, unless of course that is the meaning to your life.

Asking questions is no crime and not a waste of time either, Adimon wanted to know what people think the meaning of life is to them, not the answer that will end the need to ask the question. I think your overindulging your self with your statement of "existence is paradoxical", its quite deflective of the question you seem to have a hard time fashioning an answer for.

Do I blame you for trying, is that an attempt to draw me into saying "yes I blame you for trying" so you can rebut that with another deflective answer from the subject at hand

So here is your chance to cut out all the shit, you have the floor.

Tell us what the meaning of life is for you?

i gave an answer here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62855&page=6

anyway, i committed a very serious error when I first replied to this thread: I used the word 'you', that is, I addressed you directly. This automatically creates pre-judgement. I should have been impersonal while sticking to the information only. Sorry. (I'm being serious.)

branjo
28-04-2009, 02:20 AM
i gave an answer here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62855&page=6

anyway, i committed a very serious error when I first replied to this thread: I used the word 'you', that is, I addressed you directly. This automatically creates pre-judgement. I should have been impersonal while sticking to the information only. Sorry. (I'm being serious.)

Well then I apologize too, it wasn't quite nice of me to put you on the spot like that so sorry bro.

Peace

gushen
28-04-2009, 03:14 AM
Well then I apologize too, it wasn't quite nice of me to put you on the spot like that so sorry bro.

Peace

well, I was definitely calling for it. peace

adimon
28-04-2009, 07:20 AM
It seems the meaning of life has become apology :P (j/k)

Good stuff guys, I appreciate it.

Do you think any light can be shed on this topic by exploring moral realism?

mane
28-04-2009, 07:38 AM
There is something to be had in moral realism, for the interconnected nature of life implies an ethics, where statements such as 'do unto others as you would do unto yourself' ring profound; thus, in regards to the meaning of life, one could argue that our purpose is to realize such love-- face to face with GOD, as we become a function of heightening order, existing within tensions of chaos and harmony. On that note, our purpose may be to realize balance within imbalance; congruently, to give meaning to life-- finding rhyme or reason within absurdity-- to create reality, experiencing our nature as to the vantage realized.

ex_anser_ovo
28-04-2009, 07:59 AM
Finding rhyme or reason within absurdity, makes us laugh and induces an awesome rapport among groups.
It also strengthens our immune system like gang busters.
A bonding mechanic + longevity augmenter, all in one. :)

You know what is one of the most successful interrogation tactics?
Building a rapport through humour. No lie. lol

mane
28-04-2009, 08:11 AM
Aye! There are sessions of laughing yoga people attend for the sake of laugher with its positive properties. They don't necessarily know anybody, and that is the point-- to simply connect on that plane of rhyme or reason within absurdity.

ex_anser_ovo
28-04-2009, 08:23 AM
Two of my friends are both brothers, and they both have really funny sounding laughs, and their laughter escalates the other brother's laughing.
It starts a hilarious cycle, that cracks everyone up until we are crying from laughter.
I wish I could record it. It is a sight. I think they call it chain laughter....and it will be our end!

arty2000
29-04-2009, 03:21 AM
lol yeah sorry about that, not exactly an answer at all really :o

Ok, I should elaborate on my "current" take on things.

I don't see evil everywhere anymore, anywhere. I don't see the nwo as evil I don't see any race "T" or "ET" as evil. I have begun to just see things as they can be.

I don't care if 5.5 billion people are going to be killed or if the earth is going to be destroyed in a catastrophe or about the starving children in Africa dying every second of every day, as you can tell by that statement I don't do "guilt" either.

In fact I am trying to not focus on any negativity because the most important thing in life is positivity. Even the most seedy of criminals do what they do to feel better, their moral and ethical compass may be truly fucked up but the direction is the same for us all, ie to feel good. Its our "feeling good techniques" are what needs to be fixed, and it may be hard to hear but you can't fix anyone else but yourself, and if you are not "fixed" by your own standards then you have no right to infringe on anyone elses, no matter how much negativity they are drowning in, its like throwing a drowning man a concrete life jacket, your intentions may be good but he had more of a chance if you would have just left him alone to save himself.

There are a ton of reasons to feel bad and depressed with the state of the world today but you know what, until you realize that the suffering we are feeling actually is the illusion then you will continue to play the game at a great disadvantage.

If people want to make you feel angry, afraid, sad, guilty, shame or pity, then just don't, and don't feel it all over again just because you think like that.

There is always a simple answer for everything, no matter how hard you try to avoid the question. The simple way doesn't mean "easy" it just means basic. If you feel like you can sacrifice something to save someone then don't even think about it, just do it, and if you don't want to, then don't beat yourself up about it either.

One thing that has started to take hold of me is the "unimportance" of life, let me be clear about this so you don't get the wrong idea. Life is beautiful and wonderful but its not as scarce or as solitary as we have been led to believe.

Loving life too much can have a flip side in fearing death. You didn't ask to be born but you were born nonetheless through being given some sort of cosmic "choice" of when, where, who and what, and hey presto, you exist. Now is this life your only existence? I think most of us are long past the grip of religion and fear of eternal damnation to know that no matter what befalls us in life, it will not remove us from existence.

So if death is not a bad thing in fact death is the biggest compliment to life, because it gives you the choice back of the who,when, where and what again. Then why do we protect ourselves from death so much? Is it from a fear of "no life" or a fear of "living"?, ie if we don't do certain things in life will we be rewarded with more life?<--the promise of religion.

If we are not our bodies and we are not our minds then how can we place our existence in either body or mind, only the body and mind know pain, only the body and mind feel fear. Life itself is suffering so just get over it, love all your pain, and love all your experiences because one day you will laugh at them as the most entertaining aspect of that life.

The game we all love to talk about is the game of remembering, the only rules to the game is that you forget the last time you played it. Sometimes in your best or worst moment you have a sense of knowing that comforts you. The realization that whatever you do won't make a difference because trying to change the game "within" the game is pointless. You make all those choices before you enter it, so either stay and play or give up, those are your most basic choices, but you have to make the choice through actual memory of the rules of the game, or you will enter again where you left off.

So "you" choose to be in fear, "you" choose to be in pain, because "you" wanted to have that experience under your belt like a student wants a phd.
If you are letting the game dictate who you are above "mind and body" then stop right there because it can't, you are not the game you are playing anymore than you are a game of chess when your playing that too.

Negative emotions all come from the same place, its what we feel in the absence of positivity. The positive is where you want to be always but with a dualistic mind you set yourself up for the coming negativity because that's how you have been taught through many incarnations here. We have turned ourselves into the chess pieces of the game and not the controlling force behind it. The problem is when you focus your consciousness into the chess pieces then you are believing you are bound to the life and movements of those chess pieces, those chess pieces are fighting for their lives to win that game but they have no memory of the last game or have any idea that there will always be another game, so they are locked within the boundaries of the game of chess and the "reality" of the chess board.

We are all one, and we are a bloody smart one, because we made the split in such a way that only true purpose and realization of oneness will complete us, we know everything that we would think if a hurdle or obstacle was placed in our path and we know how hard a way around it or over it would be. We are the "one" testing our self, not a separate entity called "god" that we are only one with when we are "good". That's why religion is the biggest hurdle for most people, because when you are not "good" you are passed on to the god of "bad" or "evil" to deal with you which is absurd because that is not oneness at all, that is still the dualistic mind trying to make sense of a choice that it doesn't underatand.

God loves you like "you" love you, you can treat yourself any which way you choose and life will do the same because we will all agree that you are this or that because the part of us that is you is being respected by the part of you that is "us".

So if your a skinhead neo Nazi that's got a problem with every other person on the planet then every other person on the planet agrees with you that you are a shallow minded wanker, where's the surprise in that? ...lol.

If you were to be totally and utterly cool with who you are then how could anyone else see you as anything other than being totally cool, that's all it takes. When you are at peace and in harmony with yourself, then the rest of the world will treat you as you want to be treated.

If you are afraid of the nwo or the power of the police or a particular religion then you are holding up a big sign to the rest of oneness (ie you) that says "Here I am, I am open to being controlled and having the shit scared out of me", so again, where is the problem when someone does that for you?

Your life is only a reflection of how you feel about yourself this time around, there is no love of life because we only love things that we never want to let go of, you actually can never be without life so stop thinking that this one life is everything because its not, its but a drip in an infinite ocean, it will never run out and it will never give you anything you don't want to be given. The sooner we all (including myself) realize that then the sooner we can just laugh at what once scared us, and we turn this life into a relaxing and potentially beautiful experience that can handle all the pain in it like a body handles a cold shower, just a temporary uneasiness but ultimately a refreshing experience.

And to end it on another Nietzschean proverb, ;)

"Be him who you are"

All negativity stems from fear and fear is simply the absence of truth..see the truth,love and humor in all things,it is ego perception that is the source of all misery...a little story my friends,a man was asked his opinion on what he would say if he saw a person driving a car w/ a ditch on either side and the car was veering to the left or right ...he said he would suggest that the person go to the middle of the road...I can give you info and advice but I cannot drive the car for you,nor would I want to because afterall it is your car.:)

Peace and Luv my friends