lumukanda
10-07-2007, 03:04 PM
these are a few celtic/zulu connections, there is apparently also a sotho/egyptian connection.
i got this from a book called 'Africa through the mists of time' by brenda sullivan (foreword by credo mutwa). sorry it's so long, i'm typing it from the book, no link i'm afraid.
in this book she outlines here theory that indigenous africans have been mining diamonds for thousands of years. she also puts forward that peoples from the middle east, europe and the east have visited, traded and set up colonies in africa for thopusands of years. she speaks at great length about the religious traditions of the sumerians and babylonians and links up african religious traditions.
one particularly interesting discovery is a copy of the famous picture of athletes vaulting over a bull, on a stone in southern africa. she suggests that the egyptians' diamonds might have come from southern africa.
she also suggests that when one Cadmus conquered egypt, crete and greece, the Tuatha de Danaan fled in four directions, some ended up in ireland via greece and scotland, she suggests that one group could have headed south, to the now abandoned diamond mines in southern africa.
she contends that cretans, celts, early greeks and zulus have identical beliefs about sacred kings, oracular pronouncments, bulls and serpents. she also claims to have evidence of a sotho (another south african tribe) and egyptian link, but not as much as the zulu-celtic link. here follow 49 shared traditions between zulus and celts :
1. the imortance of oral learning, and the esoteric significance of ears. common claims are that wizrds ears are licked by serpents. children's ears should be pierced so that the mind can hear.
2. riddles for entertainment and for stimulating thought, with esoteric lessons.
3. an obsession with magic and ritual, through blood sacrifice.
4. "Beltane-type" sacred fires, topurify the land, livestock and people.
5. ritual sacrifice of children, also adult human sacrifice.
6. the annual harvest festivals, to pray for protectionof future crops and for troubl free pregnancies for wives and livestock.
7. the importance of beer in festivals, fled, celtic for brew; phehleka, zulu for brew.
8. the brewing of magical beer for the sustenance for deities, and to strengthen them against misfortunes inbattle.
9. deities of the land (rivers, trees, rocks, hills, springs etc.) have to be placated.
10. tribal and nature deities.
11. the shaman/sangoma is the living embodiement of the collective psyche, the link with the ancestral world
12. shamans needed a summons that came in dreams, ecstasy, trance or vision.
13. the importance of fasting for spiritual enlightenment.
14. poets/sanusi cursing with magical rhmes.
15. the co-mingling of deities with those of other friendly tribes.
16. a fear that the secret name of the tribal deities would become known to enemies and used against them in battle.
17. a belief that life is an endless cycle of birth, death and rebirth.
18. the burying of sacred treasures in the earth, in secret.
19. ogam, the secret language of the druids, is practised by sangomas in africa, who have reached the level of sanusi. (credo mutwa can read ogam)
20. th importance of elegance and admiration of great orators.
21. the praises of chiefs and kings chanted by high-ranking praise poets.
22. youth confined entirely to male society for military training for 2 to 3 years.
23. wealth measurd in cattle.
24. lobola, or wife purchase, particularly with cattle as medium of exchange.
25. plurality of wives permitted, with single principal wife.
26. thatched, circular huts, built around a framework of posts.
27. deep storage pits for corn or silos sunk inot the ground within the homestead or farm enclosure.
28. sanctuary, and meeting places for the men a feature of villages.
29. a great love of battle and ceremonial gear.
30. ritualistic boasting. individual warriors challenging each other before battle.
31. the champions challenge and tumult kept buy the hosts of fighters.
32. high-leaping dancing of warriors before battle, to reach frenzy.
33. the doctoring of warriors before battle with magical potions, salves and amulets.
34. weapons had names.
35. warriors love of beer and feasting after battle.
36. seating of post battle feasts was according to rank and title.
37. the ritual eating of the shoulder portionof the animal.
38. well defined social system.
39. the king was elected within the kin of his predecessor, but not necessarily his son.
40. the ritual functions of the king were of great importance to the well being of the tribe.
41. marriages contracted outside of kin and clan.
42. very devout, strong belief in the godhead. after christianity replaced paganism, a great punishment was excommunication.
43. the land belonged to the tribe. there was no individual land ownership.
44. great annual; assemblies fulfilled economic and ritual needs and were often held at the residence of the king, and also at a sacred site associated with the burial placeof the dynasty.
45. the virtue resident in the kings foot, they were forbidden to touch the ground with the feet.
46. collecting the heads of enemies.
47. custom of funeral pyres for kings. with followers burned alive.
48. the boardgame nine-man's-morris, played by the ancient greeks, viking, norsemen, old romans, indians and chinese was played under the name umlabalaba or ra-ba-ra-ba, long before the arrival of westerners in southern africa.
49. the houses of celts and zulus are universally round.
credo mutwa is apparently in possesion of a phallus enscribed with both egyptian script and ogham.
i got this from a book called 'Africa through the mists of time' by brenda sullivan (foreword by credo mutwa). sorry it's so long, i'm typing it from the book, no link i'm afraid.
in this book she outlines here theory that indigenous africans have been mining diamonds for thousands of years. she also puts forward that peoples from the middle east, europe and the east have visited, traded and set up colonies in africa for thopusands of years. she speaks at great length about the religious traditions of the sumerians and babylonians and links up african religious traditions.
one particularly interesting discovery is a copy of the famous picture of athletes vaulting over a bull, on a stone in southern africa. she suggests that the egyptians' diamonds might have come from southern africa.
she also suggests that when one Cadmus conquered egypt, crete and greece, the Tuatha de Danaan fled in four directions, some ended up in ireland via greece and scotland, she suggests that one group could have headed south, to the now abandoned diamond mines in southern africa.
she contends that cretans, celts, early greeks and zulus have identical beliefs about sacred kings, oracular pronouncments, bulls and serpents. she also claims to have evidence of a sotho (another south african tribe) and egyptian link, but not as much as the zulu-celtic link. here follow 49 shared traditions between zulus and celts :
1. the imortance of oral learning, and the esoteric significance of ears. common claims are that wizrds ears are licked by serpents. children's ears should be pierced so that the mind can hear.
2. riddles for entertainment and for stimulating thought, with esoteric lessons.
3. an obsession with magic and ritual, through blood sacrifice.
4. "Beltane-type" sacred fires, topurify the land, livestock and people.
5. ritual sacrifice of children, also adult human sacrifice.
6. the annual harvest festivals, to pray for protectionof future crops and for troubl free pregnancies for wives and livestock.
7. the importance of beer in festivals, fled, celtic for brew; phehleka, zulu for brew.
8. the brewing of magical beer for the sustenance for deities, and to strengthen them against misfortunes inbattle.
9. deities of the land (rivers, trees, rocks, hills, springs etc.) have to be placated.
10. tribal and nature deities.
11. the shaman/sangoma is the living embodiement of the collective psyche, the link with the ancestral world
12. shamans needed a summons that came in dreams, ecstasy, trance or vision.
13. the importance of fasting for spiritual enlightenment.
14. poets/sanusi cursing with magical rhmes.
15. the co-mingling of deities with those of other friendly tribes.
16. a fear that the secret name of the tribal deities would become known to enemies and used against them in battle.
17. a belief that life is an endless cycle of birth, death and rebirth.
18. the burying of sacred treasures in the earth, in secret.
19. ogam, the secret language of the druids, is practised by sangomas in africa, who have reached the level of sanusi. (credo mutwa can read ogam)
20. th importance of elegance and admiration of great orators.
21. the praises of chiefs and kings chanted by high-ranking praise poets.
22. youth confined entirely to male society for military training for 2 to 3 years.
23. wealth measurd in cattle.
24. lobola, or wife purchase, particularly with cattle as medium of exchange.
25. plurality of wives permitted, with single principal wife.
26. thatched, circular huts, built around a framework of posts.
27. deep storage pits for corn or silos sunk inot the ground within the homestead or farm enclosure.
28. sanctuary, and meeting places for the men a feature of villages.
29. a great love of battle and ceremonial gear.
30. ritualistic boasting. individual warriors challenging each other before battle.
31. the champions challenge and tumult kept buy the hosts of fighters.
32. high-leaping dancing of warriors before battle, to reach frenzy.
33. the doctoring of warriors before battle with magical potions, salves and amulets.
34. weapons had names.
35. warriors love of beer and feasting after battle.
36. seating of post battle feasts was according to rank and title.
37. the ritual eating of the shoulder portionof the animal.
38. well defined social system.
39. the king was elected within the kin of his predecessor, but not necessarily his son.
40. the ritual functions of the king were of great importance to the well being of the tribe.
41. marriages contracted outside of kin and clan.
42. very devout, strong belief in the godhead. after christianity replaced paganism, a great punishment was excommunication.
43. the land belonged to the tribe. there was no individual land ownership.
44. great annual; assemblies fulfilled economic and ritual needs and were often held at the residence of the king, and also at a sacred site associated with the burial placeof the dynasty.
45. the virtue resident in the kings foot, they were forbidden to touch the ground with the feet.
46. collecting the heads of enemies.
47. custom of funeral pyres for kings. with followers burned alive.
48. the boardgame nine-man's-morris, played by the ancient greeks, viking, norsemen, old romans, indians and chinese was played under the name umlabalaba or ra-ba-ra-ba, long before the arrival of westerners in southern africa.
49. the houses of celts and zulus are universally round.
credo mutwa is apparently in possesion of a phallus enscribed with both egyptian script and ogham.