Chemtrails and Contrails

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/content/blogcategory/30/82/

New Report Challenges Basic Assumptions About Climate Change
A new report has been published which challenges certain basic assumptions about climate change. The report has been written by an independent lay researcher, and is backed by over 20 signatories from diverse backgrounds. The report presents significant ground-based and space-based data which indicates that ongoing illegal and unacknowledged aerosol spraying from aircraft could be affecting our climate. Copies of the report have been sent to Greenpeace, the Civil Aviation Authority, The Royal Air Force and DEFRA, challenging them to investigate the data themselves.
Derbyshire, UK (PRWEB (http://www.prweb.com/)) May 19, 2007 -- An independent lay researcher, with a background in Software Engineering, from Derbyshire, UK, has published a new report which documents ongoing illegal aerosol spraying activities which could be affecting our climate, our health or both. This activity can be seen in multiple, repeated instances of persistent aircraft trails across our skies.
Andrew Johnson said that, like most other people, he assumed, for many years, that the trails were just ordinary vapour trails (called 'contrails').
"In 2004, I began to notice that these trails did not behave like contrails at all. Then, on 10th June 2005, I witnessed a grid of aircraft trails right outside my window, just before sunset," Andrew has included copies of 2 photographs of this 'grid' in the report. "I sent the picture to the local paper and they published it. I also had it published on a popular website in the USA and I received quite a number of e-mail responses to the picture. Most of the responses described my picture as being of a grid of 'chemtrails' and quite a few people sent me similar pictures they had taken." Andrew then decided to write an article about this 'grid' picture and what the background to it seemed to be. The article was published, online, in September 2005 on the website of Phenomena Magazine.
"Since then, I have continued to photograph and study the chemtrails. I made some "time-lapse" videos using a webcam and this clearly showed the trails did not behave like ordinary 'contrails' or even clouds. I found that several other people have done this, including a former TV weatherman from Idaho, called Scott Stevens. I became more and more convinced that something was wrong - the time lapse footage clearly shows the difference between contrails and chemtrails. On 4th February this year, in a period of two and a half hours, I filmed 42 aircraft leaving long-lasting trails over the centre of Derby. I edited the film clips together (which were all time-stamped) and posted the results on the Internet. I reference this video in my report, and have included a copy on DVD."
Later, David Griffin, a Virtual Learning Environment Materials author based in Nottingham, contacted Andrew to share a weather satellite photo he had found, taken on the same day, which clearly showed the chemtrails.
David, who is a signatory to the report, said, "For me, the fact many of us around the country notice particularly heavy days of this phenomena and have recently managed to link the activity via satellite imaging systems, is some sort of concrete evidence that something is going on here. This evidence alone should be sufficient to at least initiate an enquiry of some sort."
Andrew explains, in the report, that the Physics of the formation of aircraft vapour trails are fairly straightforward. "On every cold winter's day, when we breathe out, we can see our breath. The reason is that our breath is warm and the winter air is cold. Tiny droplets of water vapour condense out of the warm air to form 'clouds of visible breath', before the warm air quickly cools and the 'clouds' disappear again. This is very similar to the process that is happening about 30,000 feet in the air, when hot exhaust gases from jet engines heat the air. Water droplets condense out of the exhaust fumes and from the cooler surrounding air and form a contrail - an abbreviation of condensation trail. Even in ideal conditions, these trails should become invisible after 1 or 2 minutes. This would therefore make the formation of a persistent grid of trails (like the one shown in my photograph) impossible without additional substances being sprayed or emitted from the aircraft".
Over the last few months, Andrew said that he has found a number of other people share his concerns and they have therefore agreed to be signatories to the report. For example, David Sherlock of Swanley, Kent said "I have been researching the phenomenon of aircraft releasing chemtrails into our skies. I noticed that these exhaust trails were not dispersing. After much research I discovered some startling facts as to the composition of the trails. I fully encourage more investigation into this matter."
In the report, Andrew outlines some of the work of former US Department of Defence Research Scientist Clifford Carnicom. Carnicom has tested samples of material which appear to be present in chemtrails and he has discovered Barium compounds. Samples of air from Los Angeles, for example, contained increased levels of Potassium and Calcium.
Brian Dovey, of East Tilbury said, "Over the last couple of months I have taken pictures with an old compact camera of these long trails, disturbingly most do not dissipate as contrails do, these linger and fan out over wide areas of sky usually resulting in a grey 'smogging' effect, later in the day. I really would like some answers to this phenomenon from someone in government circles."
Albert Shine, a former Aircraft Technician from Morecambe, Lancashire, said "My background is in aviation, thus I am very familiar with many current helicopters, civil airliners and some military types. As regards this phenomenon, which I have dubbed designer pollution, I was at first sceptical, until I began to observe chemtrails over Morecambe." He added "Many more people now suffer a wide spectrum of breathing related complaints (asthma is now quite common), frequent flu-like symptoms and lingering colds etc and this 'designer pollution' may be a contributory cause. It is vital that this matter is brought to as wide a section of the public as possible and it should merit headlines in the media".
As regards the report which Andrew has produced, Shine said, "The challenge to the authorities ought to be a thunderous roar demanding exposure of just what is going on. What Andrew Johnson is seeking to do, and the calm and meticulous submission that he has prepared is an excellent start."
Gil Williamson of Masham, North Yorkshire, a former member of the Armed Forces said "If the information from the US is correct, this spraying is very harmful to our health and should be stopped immediately. I certainly have not given my permission to be sprayed on, and judging by previous secret experiments unearthed by the Guardian Newspaper, this is a total breach of our democratic rights and should be stopped immediately."
Andrew points out that "Gil is quite correct in that declassified documents show that we have been sprayed before - in the 1950's and 1960's - with biological agents and I mention this matter in the report."
Nick Buchanan, a Lecturer in North West England, stated "I would like to know if the phenomena of chemtrails is what has led to the otherwise inexplicable rise in asthma of the last two decades. Proportions are now epidemic."
Another signatory to the report, Belinda McKenzie - a London-based language specialist - said "In the 1960's and 1970's, I was an avid sun-bather and, in warm weather, was almost always outside whenever the sun was. I never noticed anything like these trails then and I am therefore convinced the ones we are seeing now, so regularly, have some other cause than ordinary air traffic."
Andrew responds, "Many people are concerned about this issue, but are faced with a wall of denial by all Official Bodies - including non-partisan environmental organizations. People will undoubtedly criticize the report I have published because it has no 'Official Backing', but the report contains some very basic, easily verifiable data which proves things are not as the should be. I would argue that the report is truly independent - as it has been produced without any funding and it has been reviewed and agreed on by a 'lay jury' of over 20 people. We hear a great deal in the news about 'climate change' and 'global warming', yet all official bodies who discuss these issues ignore the sort of data presented in this report. This leads me to believe that these bodies must have drawn incorrect conclusions, which should now be subject to immediate and urgent review. Legislation has now been passed which assumes certain causes for climate change and we are increasingly subject to 'scare stories' about this. The data in the report adds a new dimension to this equation and is therefore very important in that regard alone. I encourage anyone and everyone to review the report for themselves and collect their own data too. Unless the illegal spraying suddenly stops, people will easily be able to verify the reality of this activity for themselves."
The report can be viewed, online at http://www.checktheevidence.com/Chemtrails/ (http://www.checktheevidence.com/Chemtrails/) or using this shorter link: ********************/2w8ytk/ (********************/2w8ytk/)
Andrew Johnson
22 Mear Drive
Borrowash
Derbyshire
DE72 3QW
Tel: 01332 674271

[shodan]

Fantastic stuff - Exactly what I needed to see, been going insane watching beautiful mornings turn into depressing grey smog weather virtually every day for the last few months.

[mizz420]

This guy lives down the road from me.
Im going to go and talk to him.

[jsosic]

could you please post about your talk with the guy?

this stuff is pretty interesting - although I still can't believe that this kind of conspiracy is possible and noone involved going out with some stuff... I mean we're talkin' about tens of thousands - if not hundreds of thousand of plains spraying around every day! someone has to fill them up, someone has to fly them... either this stuff is pumped into standard jet fuel, or it's really weird for so many involved to be so silent about it

[dunadan]

This guy lives down the road from me.
Im going to go and talk to him.

I second that please get back to us and Post your comments/findings:)

[mizz420]

I shall do.
Its a hotspot for chemtrailling here.
Quite upsetting really :(

[simmo]

Remember that thing a little while back in....italy or china or somewhere where there was planes held captive and prevented from taking off because there was spraying apparatus connected to the wings and the authorities there wanted to know what the hell was going on.

Does anyone else remember or have the link? It was a big deal in here 6/8 months back.

[dunadan]

Remember that thing a little while back in....italy or china or somewhere where there was planes held captive and prevented from taking off because there was spraying apparatus connected to the wings and the authorities there wanted to know what the hell was going on.

Does anyone else remember or have the link? It was a big deal in here 6/8 months back.

I will ask a mate of mine - as he flaged that story up to me too!!!!

[seo_monster]

Great info. Chemtrails been a problem for a while. But it all comes down to the same thing. Only 1% of the population gives a shit. For every one else its a "conspiracy". Whats funny when their family gets murdered they will be programmed to believe that it was a "conspiracy" as well. Pathetic.

Need to boycott the military as they are the most useless fucks in the world anyways. They are the 2nd greatest evil in the world after taxes. And they are the ones that are hired to spray the chemtrails. Its already obvious enough that THERE IS NO ONE IN THE MILITARY WITH GOOD MORALS proven by events of last 100 years. They know what they are doing and as they say "just following orders". "just following orders" doing genocide LOL thats how it always was

"just following orders"

Once they are gone there will be no planes no spray the BS. Need to get rid of the problem and the people officially employed to do this kind of stuff. Then the problem would go away.

[motleyhoo]

They're terraforming the planet to make it more hospitable for reptiles.

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[mizz420]

They're terraforming the planet to make it more hospitable for reptiles.

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Chemtrailling is always always followed here by incredibly uncomfortably cold weather.

[iaintoff]

They're terraforming the planet to make it more hospitable for reptiles.

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lots of three fingered reptiles running round with horizontally elongated heads, oh the feeling of dread.:D

[beldazar]

This would therefore make the formation of a persistent grid of trails (like the one shown in my photograph) impossible without additional substances being sprayed or emitted from the aircraft".


thankyou!!!

As I said to my sister a couple of years ago, "do you think they are clouds of steam that magically stay in the air?" :rolleyes:

[eternal wheel]

The report presents significant ground-based and space-based data which indicates that ongoing illegal and unacknowledged aerosol spraying from aircraft could be affecting our climate.
i.e. could be. could not be. they don't know.

Derbyshire, UK (PRWEB (http://www.prweb.com/)) May 19, 2007 -- An independent lay researcher, with a background in Software Engineering, from Derbyshire, UK, has published a new report which documents ongoing illegal aerosol spraying activities which could be affecting our climate, our health or both.
that word again.....

This activity can be seen in multiple, repeated instances of persistent aircraft trails across our skies.
just like the persistant trails that have been in our skies since planes could fly high enough to leave threm.
http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/





Andrew explains, in the report, that the Physics of the formation of aircraft vapour trails are fairly straightforward. "On every cold winter's day, when we breathe out, we can see our breath. The reason is that our breath is warm and the winter air is cold. Tiny droplets of water vapour condense out of the warm air to form 'clouds of visible breath', before the warm air quickly cools and the 'clouds' disappear again. This is very similar to the process that is happening about 30,000 feet in the air, when hot exhaust gases from jet engines heat the air. Water droplets condense out of the exhaust fumes and from the cooler surrounding air and form a contrail - an abbreviation of condensation trail. Even in ideal conditions, these trails should become invisible after 1 or 2 minutes. This would therefore make the formation of a persistent grid of trails (like the one shown in my photograph) impossible without additional substances being sprayed or emitted from the aircraft".

wrong, a lie.
propaganda put out by the 'pro-chemtrail' lobby to further their agenda.
this fool abviously has no idea at all about how the atmosphere works, and how exhaust gasses from planes interact with it.

the temperature at 30,000ft is between -20'c and -40'c. hardly a 'cold winters day'. lingering trails form because the water at 30,000ft is super-cooled. i.e. well below freezing. (this has been known since the 1930's).
the water in the atmosphere uses the exhaust gasses, (the condensation and tiny soot particles) as a catalyst to form sheets of cloud that can linger for hours or days, and spread to cover hundreds or even thousands of square miles. (Minnis et al, 2002:'Spreading of isolated contrails during 2001 air traffic control shutdown'. American Meterological Society, j9-j12).



Brian Dovey, of East Tilbury said, "Over the last couple of months I have taken pictures with an old compact camera of these long trails, disturbingly most do not dissipate as contrails do, these linger and fan out over wide areas of sky usually resulting in a grey 'smogging' effect, later in the day.
see answer above.









I really would like some answers to this phenomenon from someone
see answer above.

Albert Shine, a former Aircraft Technician from Morecambe, Lancashire, said "My background is in aviation, thus I am very familiar with many current helicopters, civil airliners and some military types. As regards this phenomenon, which I have dubbed designer pollution,
i've not heard that phrase before. an accurate description IMHO.




declassified documents show that we have been sprayed before - in the 1950's and 1960's - with biological agents and I mention this matter in the report."
common knowledge. not 'chemtrailing', a lot of these biological agents were sprayed from land rovers or ships in the english channel.





I never noticed anything like these trails then and I am therefore convinced the ones we are seeing now, so regularly, have some other cause than ordinary air traffic."
by the industries own figures, there are approx 1,000 additional civil passenger carrying planes certified for airworthyness every year, in addition the new, modern efficient turbo-fan engines, by their very design, leave bigger, longer lasting contrails that the older type of engine.

[worlds beyond]

Chemtrailling is always always followed here by incredibly uncomfortably cold weather.

...and here by a blanket of white hazy/feathered clouds which block out the sun.

about time Govt. were made to answer what these trails are.. acknowledgement and answers Re: what is going on above our heads is long overdue.

p.s. did you all sign petition to No.10 asking for answers re Chemtrails?? Was posted on here several weeks ago by someone.

[eternal wheel]

thankyou!!!

As I said to my sister a couple of years ago, "do you think they are clouds of steam that magically stay in the air?" :rolleyes:

you think clouds are made of steam???!!:eek::eek:

i suppose you think the big cooling towers at power stations are 'cloud factories' do you???:eek::p

[eternal wheel]

...and here by a blanket of white hazy/feathered clouds which block out the sun.


as a by-product of the civil aviation industry. nothing more sinister.
chemtrailing by military/black ops is entirely different.

[beldazar]

you think clouds are made of steam???!!:eek::eek:

i suppose you think the big cooling towers at power stations are 'cloud factories' do you???:eek::p

they weren't freaking clouds!!!! :rolleyes:

[mizz420]

...and here by a blanket of white hazy/feathered clouds which block out the sun.

about time Govt. were made to answer what these trails are.. acknowledgement and answers Re: what is going on above our heads is long overdue.

p.s. did you all sign petition to No.10 asking for answers re Chemtrails?? Was posted on here several weeks ago by someone.

Yeah i did.
Also on days after heavy chemtrailling you literally cannot see a single star in the sky and turns a nice blue day into a horrible foggy piece of shit.

Anyone who thinks chemtrailling doesn't happen needs to just look up at the sky a little more.

[eternal wheel]

Anyone who thinks chemtrailling doesn't happen needs to just look up at the sky a little more.
they're just contrails.
it's the price we have to pay for modern intercontinental air travel.
the more efficient the engine, the bigger the contrail. the industries push for cleaner, more efficient air travel has the side effect of filling the sky with a milky mess, if conditions are right.

[worlds beyond]

Anyone who thinks chemtrailling doesn't happen needs to just look up at the sky a little more.


hear! hear! It's not hard to see there's something wrong going on up there!

[eternal wheel]

hear! hear! It's not hard to see there's something wrong going on up there!

can't argue with that.

but it's not some secret gvmt spraying program, it's just mr and mrs bloggs off on their hols.

they're fucking up our atmosphere quite well on their own, without any 'help' from the PTB.

[worlds beyond]

but it's not some secret gvmt spraying program, it's just mr and mrs bloggs off on their hols.

they're fucking up our atmosphere quite well on their own, without any 'help' from the PTB.



I wish that were true, but unfortunately, the evidence and my own eyes say different.

It's also interesting how in past decade more and more civil aviation pilots and cabin crew, and some passengers, have been coming forward and reporting noxious "fumes" in the aircraft cabin. There have been several serious incidents in UK/Europe of Pilots and crew feeling very ill and unable to breathe properly due to "fumes" and there have been one or two documentaries about it too...

these are experienced pilots and staff who say that this has only been happening recent years.. some have been forced to retire or resign due to illness or inability to fly without being affected by these fumes, leading to conerns over pilot safety/health, others say they have been ordered into silence.

Why, I wonder, has this only been a problem in past decade, and not the many decades previous of air travel? Something has changed. Perhaps (not saying it definitely is) this is linked to the chemicals being spewed out of the aircraft??

[mizz420]

they're just contrails.
it's the price we have to pay for modern intercontinental air travel.
the more efficient the engine, the bigger the contrail. the industries push for cleaner, more efficient air travel has the side effect of filling the sky with a milky mess, if conditions are right.

Your so called debunking doesnt explain why i regularly see upwards of 25 planes criss crossing the skies above my village regularly. Its not normal air traffic nor private planes. There are too many, they fly far too close to each other to be passenger jets and they go in every direction including making fuckign u turns in the sky.

[beldazar]

Your so called debunking doesnt explain why i regularly see upwards of 25 planes criss crossing the skies above my village regularly. Its not normal air traffic nor private planes. There are too many, they fly far too close to each other to be passenger jets and they go in every direction including making fuckign u turns in the sky.

you tell him, I've tried......:)

[worlds beyond]

Your so called debunking doesnt explain why i regularly see upwards of 25 planes criss crossing the skies above my village regularly. Its not normal air traffic nor private planes. There are too many, they fly far too close to each other to be passenger jets and they go in every direction including making fuckign u turns in the sky.

absolutely.. the U-turns and other strange flight patterns are, to me anyway, one of biggest giveaways..

we've seen plenty of corkscrew/twisted trails around here, plus trails going off at sudden very strange trajectories (suddenly going straight up vertically), plus almost circular/looping trails....

.. though the most common is the straight line, often one over the other, or criss-cross... and not forgetting frequent 'lettering' types ... "A" and "H" being quite here!

[worlds beyond]

"Are we being poisoned by fumes in holiday jets?

By Fiona Macrae
Last updated at 11:26 AM on 25th September 2009

Comments (45) Add to My Stories

Poisons in the air pumped into plane cabins and cockpits may be linked to brain damage.

Scientists say that chemicals in contaminated air are connected to health problems being experienced by pilots.

Cabin crew have long blamed exposure to jet engine fumes for memory loss, tremors, lethargy and other symptoms of so-called aerotoxic syndrome.

Dangerous? Scientists say they have found a link between toxic fumes on planes and brain damage in pilots (picture posed by models)

Peter Julu, a consultant neurophysiologist at the Breakspear clinic in Hertfordshire, said his tests on pilots with memory loss leave no doubt that they were poisoned by fumes in the air used to pressurise cabins.
Half the air we breathe on-board is recycled but the rest is drawn from deep within the engines and cooled before being pumped into the plane.
Faulty seals can lead to this ‘bleed air’ being contaminated with fumes from engine oil.

Official figures suggest that the cabin air on one in 2,000 flights is polluted.
But unions say it happens more frequently and highlighted the widely used Boeing 757 and BAE 146 aircraft as being of particular concern.
Dr Julu collaborated with scientists from around the world to test pilots suffering from aerotoxic syndrome.

U.S. tests found organophosphates – toxic chemicals found in jet oil – in the blood and fat of pilots.

Dr Julu ran tests on 26 British, American and Australian pilots suffering from memory loss and other symptoms.

He found damage to the part of the brain that controls dozens of vital bodily processes including breathing and heart rate matched that seen in farmers exposed to organophosphates from sheep dip.

He is adamant that the pattern of changes seen could only have been the result of engine fumes.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: ‘The only connection I can derive from there is the organophosphate meaning that the pilots who have been tested have suffered neurological damage because of organophosphates that they were exposed to while on the planes.’

He believes passengers do not fly enough to be put at risk.

However John Hoyte, a former pilot and founder of the Aerotoxic Association, believes differently.

Mr Hoyte, who gave up his licence because of ill-health, said: ‘Can you imagine a baby of 12 months breathing toxic fumes on a journey across the Atlantic?

'Of course it is going to affect anybody on board.’


Professor Helen Muir, one of the researchers, said the link was not yet proven.
She said: ‘There will be organophosphates on the flight deck, but what matters is, are they in sufficient concentrations to potentially cause harm to people?’
BAE Systems said that a new filtration system has been tested and is being fitted onto aircraft.

A spokesman added: ‘BAE Systems regards the safety of its fleet of aircraft and those who operate them as of the utmost importance.
‘The air quality on the BAE 146 has been shown by independent studies to exceed all existing international standards.’
Boeing said the air quality on its aeroplanes was ‘healthy and safe’ and levels of contaminants were ‘generally low’.

The Department for Transport commissioned a study into the issue last year and the results are due this winter.

The British Airline Pilots Association said it will not comment until the results of the Government study are released.

˜British Airways is to charge passengers up to £60 to reserve a seat.
The national carrier is following the example of no-frills airlines like Ryanair, which allows passengers to pay extra to reserve seating.
But it was branded a charter for rich queue jumpers and ‘ fundamentally dishonest’ by a leading MP.

Charges will begin at £10 for a short-haul economy seat, £20 for a long-haul economy rising to £60 for a business-class seat.

Those who don’t pay the charge will be able to choose a seat free 24 hours before departure – but only from those that are left.

Liberal Democrat Transport spokesman Norman Baker, who has campaigned on air ticket transparency, said: ‘This is fundamentally dishonest. It’s about extra revenue. The Government should step in so people know the price they are paying when they book their ticket.’

BA last night defended the charges. A spokesman said the airline was ‘launching a new service to give customers more control over their seating options’.

Toxins left me with numbness, nausea and a racing heartBy TRISTAN LORAINE
Tristan Loraine: Former pilot and co-chairman of the Global Cabin Air Quality Executive

It is nothing less than an outrage that the Government is party to a cover-up rather than addressing what is palpably a very serious situation.

I am only too aware of Aerotoxic Syndrome, having been forced to retire as a BA captain after developing the condition.

Towards the end of my flying career I began to detect, in varying degrees, the telltale 'dirty sock' smell of contaminated air on an estimated 90 per cent of the flights I was flying on Boeing 757s.

I was fit — I used to compete in Ironman triathlons — and should have had years of flying ahead, but I'm now retired on the grounds of ill-health, my body poisoned by the air I breathed while doing my job.

I was first alerted to the problem in 2001 when I was a union rep for the British Airline Pilots Association.

One Sunday night I took a phone call from a pilot who said he was regularly being poisoned by chemicals in the cockpit air supply, that flight safety was being seriously threatened and that the airlines and the aircraft manufacturers were engaged in a massive cover-up.

At first I though he was winding me up, but he pointed me towards a couple of bits of research, and when I checked them out they seemed to add up.

I started to look into it more seriously. Then, within a couple of years, I realised I was displaying symptoms of Aerotoxic Syndrome. And they were getting worse.
I recall flying into Heathrow for a full emergency landing with both myself and the co-pilot wearing emergency oxygen masks because fumes in the cockpit had left me feeling like I'd been hit by a baseball bat.

It wasn't the only emergency landing I made and we did get down safely, but it was the only one when I was still so disorientated that a couple of hours later I couldn't find the key to start my car. It was still in the car door.

The next day I woke up with nausea and a burn blister by the side of my nose. Over the next few months my symptoms got worse.

By the spring of 2006 it was clear I was no longer well enough to carry on flying.

I had numbness in my fingers and feet, nausea and heart palpitations — damage that over a dozen doctors confirmed had been caused by toxins from contaminated aircraft air.

The Civil Aviation Authority took away my medical certificate and, at 44, I retired on the grounds of ill-health.

It was a bitter blow, all caused by the failure of the Government and the airline industry to take seriously the issue of air quality.

Even now, despite growing public concern, little has really improved. I would reckon that a third of all the flights I have been on this year have had contaminated air.

The exposure can be just as bad on short-haul flights as long haul. The central cause of Aerotoxic Syndrome is the fact that 100 per cent of the air in all but the very latest Boeing 787 aircraft is taken from the compression section of the engine and circulated in the cabin to be inhaled by everyone on board.

It does not matter if they are pilots or passengers seated in first class or economy. Everyone is at risk.

There is little scientific dispute - except by airlines and the Government - that vaporised oil can be harmful since it contains carcinogenic and neurotoxic organophosphates, the same lethal cocktail that is reported to be behind Gulf War syndrome.

Workers handling heated oil fumes have to wear respirators because of the risks, so it is absurd that the Government allows the elderly, children, or pregnant women to inhale such fumes aboard a plane.

Aircraft manufacturers often argue that the dangers of contamination are reduced by filtering around 50 per cent of the air in the cabin, but this is spurious.

Most of the filtering systems only sift out larger bacteria and viruses, not the much smaller chemicals which pass through like water through a sieve.

Air travel did not use to be like this. When the first generations of jetliners arrived in the 1950s, they had turbo compressors --which took in air from the atmosphere --ensuring high quality air in the cabins.

But despite its success, this technology was dumped to save costs.

We should not have to put up with the Government’s misinformation any longer.

Whatever the politicians and officials claim, contaminated air is not safe.

Yet there are plenty of simple steps that could be taken to address the problem.

The air system could be fitted with filters to clean out the contamination.

They could also install detection systems to warn the aircrews of contaminated air.

Above all, they should push for the next generation of jets to use air taken from the clean skies, not from the dirty engines.

That is what pilots and the public deserve.

The cynical vested interests of the Government and industry, undermining safety on short-term financial grounds, should not be allowed to stand in the way of this potentially life-saving change.

Tristan Loraine's novel Toxic Airlines is now available (£9.99) and his documentary film Welcome Aboard Toxic Airlines is on DVD.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1215742/Toxic-fumes-planes-linked-brain-damage-pilots.html#ixzz0hxGgpvk7"





"Incident reports on fume events


These are just a few incident reports involving fume events. Many go unreported, do not get investigated by the AAIB or similar bodies, or are not made available for public viewing.
Incident reports in German


Airbus A319, G-EUPP, Descent to Berlin TXL, 29 April 2009
“Upon initial descent there suddenly was a very strong oil smell in the cabin.” “Both pilots had red irritated eyes and gave me the impression that they were quite fatigued.” “…the pilots did confirm that there is something and that this is very likely a strong oil smell.”

This incident was reported to the Bundesstelle für Flugunfalluntersuchung (BFU) in Germany who sent it to their UK counterparts, the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) for investigation. The BFU never got any response from the AAIB and the incident was not followed up.

Email from reporter of incident to the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA)



BAe 146-300, D-AEWB, After departure from Birmingham, 19 February 2007
Both crew members began to experience symptoms of tunnel vision, loss of balance and loss of feeling in the hands and lower arms." "Two of the three cabin crew members also reported similar symptoms."


Boeing 757-200, G-BYAO, London Stansted Airport, 22 October 2006
"The CM advised the flight crew that the haze appeared to be worsening and that some passengers were starting to feel unwell. Fumes were then detected on the flight deck, which prompted the pilots to don oxygen masks and declare a ‘MAYDAY’".

In the report it is noted that the AAIB recommended the EASA and FAA consider that aircraft be required to be installed with fume detectors. To date this has not occurred.


Boeing 757-200, G-CPET, En route from Madrid to London, 4 October 2006
"During the descent, both crew members began to feel disorientated and found that they had to concentrate hard to carry out their normal duties. At this point the commander began to feel 'confused'."


Boeing 757-200, G-CPET, London Heathrow Airport 10 March 2006
"Both flight crew members continued to feel abnormal - the co-pilot considered himself partially incapacitated - but the cabin staff appeared unaffected. Both engines were shut down as the crew no longer felt fit to taxi the aircraft and it was towed back to the stand."


BAe 146-300, G-JEBA, Climb from Belfast City Airport, 2 February 2006
"The co-pilot complained of a dry throat, burning eyes, a tingling sensation in the fingers and of being hot. After donning his oxygen mask he slid his seat back and took no further part in the flight."


BAe 146, G-JEAW, Southampton Airport, 7 December 2005
"One cabin crew member became nauseous and started vomiting, another felt light-headed and complained of a racing heartbeat." "The most affected cabin crew member had difficulty concentrating, was unable to perform her duties and continued vomiting, sporadically, for up to one hour after the event."


Bombardier DHC-8‑400, G-JECE, near Leeds, UK, 4 August 2005
"Shortly after initiating a descent, an oily smell was noticed on the flight deck, almost immediately followed by a smoke build-up in the flight deck and cabin." "during the 36 months examined (by IATA), there occurred an average of two and a half smoke
events each day." "Smoke protection for passengers is not a requirement on
public transport aircraft"

It is noted that the report cites other cases where pilots had suffered adverse physiological effects due to fumes and it also recommends the FAA and EASA consider that aircraft be required to be fitted with fume detectors. To date this has not occurred.


Avro 146-RJ100, G-CFAH, En route Nice - London Stansted, 4 July 2005
"Both pilots have suffered from symptoms including, ulcerated throat, skin rashes, headaches, stomach upsets, nausea, numb, tingling fingers. These are apparently consistent with exposure to organophosphates for approximately 14 days after incident."



Avro 146-RJ100, HB-IXN, Flight LX1103, Approach to Zurich-Kloten Airport, 19 April 2005
“The aircraft was released for flight operations several times, even though the defect had not been rectified.” “The copilot was limited in his capability of acting during the approach and landing due to the effects of fumes.” “The medical examination of the copilot after the flight showed that during the flight toxic exposure took place.”

“Cause: The serious incident is attributable to the fact that on approach to Zurich Airport the cockpit filled with fumes which caused a toxic effect, leading to a limited capability of acting of the copilot. These fumes were caused by an oil leak …”

Aerotoxic Association Comment: It is significant that the Swiss Air Accident Investigation Bureau have acknowledged the TOXIC effects of cabin air contaminated by engine oil. Other reports have usually described these fumes as an “irritant” only".

German Version



Boeing 757-200, G-BPEE, 12, 16 and 23 November 2004
"The aircraft experienced several incidents, on different flights, of fumes in the cockpit and cabin and in some cases this produced symptoms in the flight and cabin crew." "The commander had considered going onto oxygen as he was feeling a little unwell and 'a bit spacey'" "...symptoms being recorded as including headaches, a sore throat, coughing, nausea, burning sensation in the lungs, and a 'slightly spaced' feeling."


BAe 146-200, G-MANS, Belfast City Airport, 1 August 2003
Fumes in the cabin on the ground followed by an evacuation. "... the cabin crew became aware of a smell of fumes and could see smoke appearing which seemed to be worst towards the rear of the cabin." "Minor leakage is not atypical for this type of APU" "... dismantling of the APU revealed that the compressor carbon seal had, for some time, been leaking oil into its air inlet."


BAe 146-100, VH-NJX, Perth Airport, 2 December 2002
"The copilot had been exposed to the fumes for approximately 30 minutes. The two cabin crew, who boarded the aircraft shortly after the copilot, were exposed to the fumes for approximately 20 minutes. All three were eventually affected by the fumes, became unwell, and were removed from flight duty." "On the return sector, both cabin crew reported feeling unwell, with symptoms consistent with fumes inhalation.


BAe 146-300, VH-NJL, Approach to Karratha, 20 October 2002
"About 10 minutes prior to the top of descent, the co-pilot recalled starting to experience symptoms of a headache. He was able to continue his duties as handling pilot and completed the descent to the Karratha circuit area" "During the taxi to the passenger terminal, the co-pilot became aware that he was experiencing symptoms of an unusually strong headache, nausea and irritated eyes, nose and throat."


BAe 146-200, VH-YAD, Departure from Brisbane, 29 June 2002
"Approximately 5 minutes after take-off the flight crew detected that smoke was present on the flight deck. They donned their oxygen masks in accordance with the emergency checklists that dealt with smoke..."


BAe 146-100, VH-NJA, Takeoff from Brisbane, 7 August 2001
"The flight crew donned oxygen masks as a precautionary measure. Symptoms of sore eyes, sore throat and headache were reported by both the crew and passengers. The pilot in command, who had been affected by fumes on previous occasions, received medical attention after landing."


BAe 146-200, VH-JJU, Takeoff from Perth, 18 July 2001
"The cabin manager felt overwhelmed by the fumes and was on the verge of passing out when her colleagues became aware of the situation and provided her with portable oxygen." "Although she was eventually cleared to return to work, symptoms of anxiety, impaired judgement, and light-headedness remained with her for in excess of one week."


BAe146-100, VH-NJR, Mackay Airport, 31 May 2001
"After starting three of the four engines the pilot in command felt increasingly unwell and the cabin staff also became aware that they were being affected by the fumes." "Previous incidents have indicated that operating crews were not aware of their impairment and the subsequent effect on their decision making ability."


BAe 146-200, G-JEAK, Descent into Birmingham, 5 November 2000
"The first officer's condition began to decline to an extent that he had difficulty in concentrating. The commander took over the handling duties and the first officer went onto 100% oxygen, and took no further part in the flight. The commander also felt "light headed" and had difficulty in judging height during the ensuing approach and landing."


BAe 146-200, SE-DRE, Approach to Malmö, 12 November 1999
"During the approach towards Malmö/Sturup airport when the aircraft was descending through FL 150 the co-pilot suddenly became nauseous and donned his oxygen mask. Then, after an estimated period of ten seconds, the commander also became very nauseous and immediately donned his oxygen mask." "The captain felt markedly dizzy and groggy for a couple of minutes. He had difficulty with physiological motor response, simultaneity and in focusing."

Paragraph 1.16.3 and 1.16.4 of the report discusses a test run on the engine to take air quality samples.

Bleed Air Quality test for LF502 engine SE-DRE



BAe 146-300, VH-NJF, Descent into Melbourne, 10 July 1997
"The pilot in command advised that, following the onset of the fumes, he had experienced difficulty in concentrating on the operation of the aircraft, and had suffered from a loss of situational awareness. By the time the aircraft had reached an altitude of approximately 2,000 ft, his control inputs had become jerky and he began suffering vertigo." "During the course of the investigation, a number of flight and cabin crew members, employed by various Australian operators on BAe146 type aircraft, reported to the Bureau that they and others were experiencing a number of health problems."

http://www.aerotoxic.org/index.php/incident-reports




also:


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12093-toxic-fumes-impairing-our-ability-to-fly-say-pilots.html


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/05/06/223448/toxic-fumes-in-airliner-cabins-ignored-by-authorities.html


http://www.impactlab.com/2009/09/24/toxic-fumes-on-planes-linked-to-brain-damage-in-pilots/


http://www.aerotoxic.org/index.php/multimedia-archive/54-tv-documentaries


http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/passenger-planes-increasingly-contaminated-by-toxic-fumes_100155775.html




imho.. far too much of a 'coincidence' that this started happening around same time chemtrails first being noticed en masse!

[fekdemasons]

can't argue with that.

but it's not some secret gvmt spraying program, it's just mr and mrs bloggs off on their hols.

they're fucking up our atmosphere quite well on their own, without any 'help' from the PTB.

Its like watching the headmaster standing at the gate on the last day of school when 500 kids charge for it.

Sure you'll grab one or two stragglers , but eventually even they'll be allowed home...

NO OFFICIAL DENIAL FROM GOVERNMENT.

NO OFFICIAL "INDEPENDENT " SCIENTIFIC STUDY...

NO MSM COVERAGE ...

If there's really nothing to hide we should have seen all these by now..

If your so sure of your argument then you must sleep soundly and forget about those who believe it. After all , you are 100 percent certain its all ludicrous..

[oioioi]

Where's the link to Islam?

:confused:

[eternal wheel]

I wish that were true, but unfortunately, the evidence and my own eyes say different.

It's also interesting how in past decade more and more civil aviation pilots and cabin crew, and some passengers, have been coming forward and reporting noxious "fumes" in the aircraft cabin. There have been several serious incidents in UK/Europe of Pilots and crew feeling very ill and unable to breathe properly due to "fumes" and there have been one or two documentaries about it too...

these are experienced pilots and staff who say that this has only been happening recent years.. some have been forced to retire or resign due to illness or inability to fly without being affected by these fumes, leading to conerns over pilot safety/health, others say they have been ordered into silence.

Why, I wonder, has this only been a problem in past decade, and not the many decades previous of air travel? Something has changed. Perhaps (not saying it definitely is) this is linked to the chemicals being spewed out of the aircraft??

interesting post. are you saying that the chemtrail stuff is leaking into the cabin somehow? not very efficient of the PTB.... most people on here seem to think that it's aluminium and barium being 'sprayed', how would these metals cause fumes?

[eternal wheel]

Your so called debunking doesnt explain why i regularly see upwards of 25 planes criss crossing the skies above my village regularly. Its not normal air traffic nor private planes. There are too many, they fly far too close to each other to be passenger jets and they go in every direction including making fuckign u turns in the sky.
i would venture that there are upwards of 25 planes above your village daily, but sometimes they don't leave trails, so you don't notice them...
'u' turns? could be military?
not everything is a conspiracy, but that doesn't mean some things arn't...

[eternal wheel]

absolutely.. the U-turns and other strange flight patterns are, to me anyway, one of biggest giveaways..

we've seen plenty of corkscrew/twisted trails around here, plus trails going off at sudden very strange trajectories (suddenly going straight up vertically), plus almost circular/looping trails....

.. though the most common is the straight line, often one over the other, or criss-cross... and not forgetting frequent 'lettering' types ... "A" and "H" being quite here!

why can't it simply be military planes on exersize?? why does everything have to be a conspiracy??
if you're spraying an area, it's not a good use of chemicals to fly about randomly.....

[worlds beyond]

I wish that were true, but unfortunately, the evidence and my own eyes say different.

It's also interesting how in past decade more and more civil aviation pilots and cabin crew, and some passengers, have been coming forward and reporting noxious "fumes" in the aircraft cabin. There have been several serious incidents in UK/Europe of Pilots and crew feeling very ill and unable to breathe properly due to "fumes" and there have been one or two documentaries about it too...

these are experienced pilots and staff who say that this has only been happening recent years.. some have been forced to retire or resign due to illness or inability to fly without being affected by these fumes, leading to conerns over pilot safety/health, others say they have been ordered into silence.

Why, I wonder, has this only been a problem in past decade, and not the many decades previous of air travel? Something has changed. Perhaps (not saying it definitely is) this is linked to the chemicals being spewed out of the aircraft??



latest news:


"Page last updated at 15:44 GMT, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:44 UK


US plane makes emergency landing in Iceland


Crew members had complained of dizziness amid reports of fumes.

A US passenger jet has made an emergency landing in Iceland after reports of chemical fumes in the cabin.

A spokesman for Keflavik airport outside Reykjavik said several crew members on the American Airlines flight had complained of dizziness.

The Boeing 767 landed safely just after 1345 GMT, Fridthor Eydal told Associated Press. No-one was injured.

The flight, with 145 people on board, was travelling from Paris to Fort Worth in Texas.

The plane was diverted after five crew members said they felt ill in the cooking area after reports of fumes in the cabin.

The source of the fumes was being investigated, said Mr Eydal. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8618093.stm

[beldazar]

Thanks worlds' beyond, interesting read...

[worlds beyond]

Thanks worlds' beyond, interesting read...

it is indeed... this whole thing re: fumes in cabin and pilots/cabin crew geting sick (to point of being forced into retirement in lots cases and /or suffering serious health effects) has only been happening past 10-12 years or so from what i've researched/found so far.. strange this is also the time period during which chemtrails have been getting SO frequent, visible and relentless too.

There are numerous documented cases, globally, of air staff/Pilots being seriously affected by these fumes, yet they're rarely reported, which is why was interesting to see on BBC headlines this evening!

[worlds beyond]

here's some info from March 2010:

"Issue of cabin fumes lingers
Submitted by Jon on 17 Mar 2010

The issue of contaminated air entering the cabin of commercial aircraft has been around for years and returns to the public spotlight on a regular basis. Events such as today's hospitalisation of 9 passengers and crew from a US Airways Boeing 767 add to the fear surrounding the issue. All individuals seeking medical attention today are expected to be discharged within hours, however it continues to raise questions.

The potential problem is reported to stem from the engine bleed air being used to feed the cabin air containing high concentrations of heated oil fumes. These chemicals, if released into the air conditioning, contain organophosphates which can contaminate occupants.

Government departments in both the UK and US are reportedly considering the idea that contaminated cabin air can have a significant health effect on passengers and crew. Previously they have denied any such link but the meeting of a Government Committee would suggest their concerns are growing.

Some airlines are now beggining to address the matter on their own by introducing more advanced air treatment systems and training pilots in their engine management to try and reduce the quantity of contminant in bleed air. Two aircraft that are reported to have more significant cabin air contamination histories are the Boeing 757 and BAe 146. In addition, BALPA, the Union responsible for representing British Airline Pilots, claims to have received nearly 800 anonymous reports of 'toxic fumes' within the cabin.

Channel 4 News recently reported the issue ahead of the Committee review. The article lays out some of the evidence behind the idea of cabin contamination."

Source: Flight International

http://www.flightcrewfinder.com/news/issue-cabin-fumes-lingers



also....


"PILOTS SPEAK OUT AGAINST TOXIC CABIN FUMES February 28, 2008

home >> LATEST NEWS >> February 28, 2008

Chris Grimshaw

After decades of inaction and denial by governments and the airline industry, former airline captain Tristan Loraine has decided it’s time to tackle the problem of engine-contaminated toxic cabin fumes. He could be the aviation industry’s biggest whistle blower. Corporate Watch gets the details from Susan Michaelis, a former Australian Pilot, who is undertaking a PhD at UNSW in Australian has been researching this issue for over a decade.

Is four decades long enough to address the problem of aircraft contaminated air? The aviation industry, backed by governments, have spent much time and money denying the problem, downplaying it or appearing to deal with the issue. Therefore it is time the public demanded that the air in an aircraft from the engines, air they pay good money for, is properly filtered. Much aircraft air is supplied direct from the engines, contaminated with synthetic jet engine oils. While the oil is clearly good for the engines, it now appears it is not so good for the people who are forced to breathe it when it leaks into the air supply.

Tristan Loraine is the Co-Chair of the Global Cabin Air Quality Executive (GCAQE) and on the oversight committee of the US Federal Aviation Authority cabin air research. After years of sitting on airline industry committees dealing with the cabin air issue he has decided it is time the public was told the truth of what is going on – what has in fact been known for nearly 50 years.

In 2006, after a 'fume event' while captaining a Boeing 757 out of Heathrow, Tristan Loraine found TCP, the engine oil additive, in his blood. With increasing ill health after repeated exposures to regular fume events, the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) deemed him no longer fit to fly as a commercial airline captain. His airline advised that he was to be medically retired and as such his 25 year airline career came to an end.

His experiences have been put into his novel, Toxic Airlines and a recently completed feature length documentary Welcome Aboard Toxic Airlines, which will be screened at a number of cinemas in the UK, beginning with Rich Mix Cinema in London on Sunday March 9 2008 at 1pm and then at the Phoenix Picture House in Oxford on the 16th of March 2008 at 1.30pm, both followed by a question and answer session with the film maker.

Panorama will also be airing a program made in association with Tristan’s Fact Not Fiction Films company on 24th March 2008 and BBC South’s Inside Out program looking at why Tristan felt it necessary to make the documentary on Friday 29 February at 7.30pm and also shown on Sky Channel 984. The airline industry, via the UK Comittee of Toxicity (COT) and the Department of Transport, has effectively dismissed the issue as unproven, requiring ‘further research’.

However - papers have recently turned up in the Australian Senate revealing how money changed hands to bury this issue years ago and how the evidence was hidden.

Australian former pilot Susan Michaelis has published the first definitive reference manual covering the complete issue. The 844 page ‘Aviation Contaminated Air Reference Manual’, available on-line, has been highly commended by the Royal Australian Air Force ( RAAF), who noted the ‘widespread prevalence of denial of the existence of the problem, particularly among the aircraft operators and aviation regulators.'

In October 2007 Lord Tyler asked the UK government what discussions they have had with the Civil Aviation Authority since the publication of Michaelis' manual. The response given by Lord Bassam of Brighton was ‘Ministers and officials regularly meet the Civil Aviation Authority to discuss aviation’. Denial at it’s best.

Meanwhile aircraft continue to fly with no detection systems or filters to clean the air bled off the engines. When fume events occur passengers are never told. Perhaps the Government and ministers involved should attend the cinema screenings in March. They might learn something."

Aviation Contaminated Air Reference Manual online www.susanmichaelis.com
Tristan Loraine's book - www.toxicairlines.com
Tristan Loraine's documentary - www.welcomeaboardtoxicairlines.com

See also
www.aerotoxic.org
www.toxicfreeairlines.com
www.aopis.org
www.gcaqe.org


http://www.corporatewatch.org/?lid=3073

[rusticformer]

This guy lives down the road from me.
Im going to go and talk to him.
You should do, I'v met Andrew. He's a really genuine friendly guy, and a bit of a comic so get your punch lines ready.

Peace...

[worlds beyond]

these are some of symptoms of exposure to toxic cabin fumes:



"Symptoms from single or short-term exposures include:

AEROTOXIC SYNDROME

neurotoxic symptoms: blurred or tunnel vision, nystagmus, disorientation, shaking and tremors, loss of balance and vertigo, seizures, loss of consciousness, parathesias;

neuropsychological symptoms: memory impairment, headache, light-headedness, dizziness, confusion and feeling intoxicated;

gastro-intestinal symptoms: nausea, vomiting;

respiratory symptoms: cough, breathing difficulties (shortness of breath), tightness in chest, respiratory failure requiring oxygen;

cardiovascular symptoms: increased heart rate and palpitations;

irritation of eyes, nose and upper airways.


Neurotoxicity is a major flight safety concern.
TREAT CONTAMINATED AIR EVENTS SERIOUSLY




"Symptoms from long term low-level exposure or residual symptoms from exposure events include: :

AEROTOXIC SYNDROME

neurotoxic symptoms: numbness (fingers, lips, limbs), parathesias;

neuropsychological symptoms: memory impairment, forgetfulness, lack of co-ordination, severe headaches, dizziness, depression, sleep disorders;

gastro-intestinal symptoms: salivation, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea

respiratory symptoms: breathing difficulties (shortness of breath), tightness in chest, respiratory failure, susceptibility to upper respiratory tract infections;

cardiovascular symptoms: chest pain, increased heart rate and palpitations;

skin symptoms: skin itching and rashes, skin blisters (on uncovered body parts), hair loss;

irritation of eyes, nose and upper airways;

sensitivity: signs of immunosupression, chemical sensitivity leading to acquired or multiple chemical sensitivity;

general: weakness and fatigue (leading to chronic fatigue), exhaustion, hot flashes, joint pain, muscle weakness and pain.




TEXT EXTRACT FROM:

" Aircrew exposure to chemicals in aircraft: Symptoms of irritation and toxicity" C. Winder & J.C Balouet
The Journal of Occupational Health & Safety- Australia & New Zealand, Volume 17 # 5 October, 2001