Killing pigeons for free food

[fuggles]

I just had a lightbulb go off in my head, killing pigeons to save money on food.

And even if I didnt want to eat them, I could go into business selling them.

Is this a good idea ? Are pigeons edible ?

[Ratiocinator]

What a repugnant thing to suggest.

Why not just kill humans for food? They are everywhere, they don't fly away, they will likely trust you - so you can lure them into a trap - and one human will last a long time.

You could put them through a meat grinder and sell their meat for burgers to BBQ parents.

Think of the money you would save and earn then.



I don't know what sort of forum you think this is, but generally it is about love and trying to improve the world, not killing its inhabitants and creating a blood bath.

[ant777uk]

Sell them to the French... in France they are a delicacy I believe. They are also quite easy to catch. I used to have a dutch mate who thought it was hilarious to catch a pigeon in his hands and then walk around with it.

Try this:

http://www.cuisine.com.au/recipe/Gnocchi-with-pigeon-and-porcini-mushroom-ragu

With the recession and stuff I reckon catching pigeons could definitely catch on. Anyone ever tried seagull?

[boots]

Sell them to the French... in France they are a delicacy I believe. They are also quite easy to catch. I used to have a dutch mate who thought it was hilarious to catch a pigeon in his hands and then walk around with it.

Try this:

http://www.cuisine.com.au/recipe/Gnocchi-with-pigeon-and-porcini-mushroom-ragu

With the recession and stuff I reckon catching pigeons could definitely catch on. Anyone ever tried seagull?


Mmm that looks like a good recipe for pigeon.


Yes you can eat almost anything. Seagull:eek: Dont think so, bit tough maybe a long stew would help.

[pinkfreud]

Yes you can eat almost anything.


AAAAANNNNything? ;)

[alzee]

I just had a lightbulb go off in my head, killing pigeons to save money on food.

And even if I didnt want to eat them, I could go into business selling them.

Is this a good idea ? Are pigeons edible ?

It's a fine idea, pigeon tastes great!

edit: if you follow ratiocinator's advice, make sure its the vegetarians you hunt, they'll taste better than carnivores ;)

[Ratiocinator]

It's a fine idea, pigeon tastes great!

It is so very fucked-up that the taste of a creature in the minds of so many justifies death and the causing of great pain.

To the pederastic rapist, the young boy's arse hole tastes great. But, oddly, few juries permit this as a good reason for the forceful enjoyment of it.

[lupa]

arnt pidgeons like kebab meat? ..live on them four four weeks and your dead.

it's probably just a filthy rumour ..and no doubt one that i started :p

[size_of_light]

Killing pigeons for free food

Where I used to live I'd wake up every morning to a flock of pigeons cooing "I can't go on...I'm so depressed" so,

I'm in.

[backbeat]

If your talking about eating the common flying rat type pigeon that eats out of bins and on human food waste, they don't taste too good from what I've heard and they also carry a whole load of diseases.

If you want to eat pigeons you need to go for wood pigeons which live on a more natural diet and are less scummy looking.

Squirrels are supposed to be quite tastey though and those pesky grey squirrels have killed off all the native red ones, so they're fair game ;)

[al209]

ratiocinator talking about boys arses again, i swear he's a wrong un.

[alzee]

It is so very fucked-up that the taste of a creature in the minds of so many justifies death and the causing of great pain.

To the pederastic rapist, the young boy's arse hole tastes great. But, oddly, few juries permit this as a good reason for the forceful enjoyment of it.

to make the comparison you just made, now that's so very fucked-up :rolleyes:

[Ratiocinator]

ratiocinator talking about boys arses again, i swear he's a wrong un.

You are writing that I am the one here who's fucked-up? You write that in a thread where a bunch of morally bankrupt barbarians are openly, and shamelessly, talking about taking life - sentient, intelligent, pain-feeling life - in order to save a bit of cash and possibly experience some transient taste pleasure?

These are living creatures being discussed here, not inanimate objects. Pigeons are just like us in that they are sociable, emotional, intelligent, they feel pain, and they seek to live. They are not potatoes or coal, or any other type of commodity; they are living things with central nervous systems.

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child. There is no justification for it.

What is being discussed in this thread is as vile as it gets. Some of you people need to wake the fuck up and realize that. You need to develop a sense of empathy and compassion for your fellow earthlings. We need to live in harmony together, not as bastards and savages.

[Ratiocinator]

to make the comparison you just made, now that's so very fucked-up :rolleyes:

No. What's fucked-up is to say that it is a fine idea to kill pigeons.

What I wrote is a glaringly obvious parallel to what you are advocating.

Fundamentally there is no difference between pederastic rape and killing for 'food'; both activities are unnecessary. Both create innocent victims. Both are done for pleasure, through ignorance, and through a lack of empathy and compassion.

Both are abhorrent.

[nofuture]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXp455mQ4xE
:p

[nofuture]

http://showbiz.sky.com/statue-in-jades-memory

There's always a use for pigeons.

[alzee]

You are writing that I am the one here who's fucked-up? You write that in a thread where a bunch of morally bankrupt barbarians are openly, and shamelessly, talking about taking life - sentient, intelligent, pain-feeling life - in order to save a bit of cash and possibly experience some transient taste pleasure?

These are living creatures being discussed here, not inanimate objects. Pigeons are just like us in that they are sociable, emotional, intelligent, they feel pain, and they seek to live. They are not potatoes or coal, or any other type of commodity; they are living things with central nervous systems.

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child. There is no justification for it.

What is being discussed in this thread is as vile as it gets. Some of you people need to wake the fuck up and realize that. You need to develop a sense of empathy and compassion for your fellow earthlings. We need to live in harmony together, not as bastards and savages.

you sir, are a loony. but thanks for the laugh.

[marpat]

It is so very fucked-up that the taste of a creature in the minds of so many justifies death and the causing of great pain.

To the pederastic rapist, the young boy's arse hole tastes great. But, oddly, few juries permit this as a good reason for the forceful enjoyment of it.

For somebody who thinks they are out to save animals you have a pretty ugly way of expressing yourself.

[al209]

You are writing that I am the one here who's fucked-up? You write that in a thread where a bunch of morally bankrupt barbarians are openly, and shamelessly, talking about taking life - sentient, intelligent, pain-feeling life - in order to save a bit of cash and possibly experience some transient taste pleasure?

These are living creatures being discussed here, not inanimate objects. Pigeons are just like us in that they are sociable, emotional, intelligent, they feel pain, and they seek to live. They are not potatoes or coal, or any other type of commodity; they are living things with central nervous systems.

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child. There is no justification for it.

What is being discussed in this thread is as vile as it gets. Some of you people need to wake the fuck up and realize that. You need to develop a sense of empathy and compassion for your fellow earthlings. We need to live in harmony together, not as bastards and savages.

I'm not defending killing pigeons, i just think you go on about bumsex quite a lot. That most likely suggests a latent desire for such activities. There are other comparisons you could have made after all..

[marpat]

No. What's fucked-up is to say that it is a fine idea to kill pigeons.

What I wrote is a glaringly obvious parallel to what you are advocating.

Fundamentally there is no difference between pederastic rape and killing for 'food'; both activities are unnecessary. Both create innocent victims. Both are done for pleasure, through ignorance, and through a lack of empathy and compassion.

Both are abhorrent.

Yeah, we can just watch all the animals killing and eating each other. We can then feel compassion for them and make ourselves feel really good that something else is killing rather than ourselves.

[kiwimaj]

You are writing that I am the one here who's fucked-up? You write that in a thread where a bunch of morally bankrupt barbarians are openly, and shamelessly, talking about taking life - sentient, intelligent, pain-feeling life - in order to save a bit of cash and possibly experience some transient taste pleasure?

These are living creatures being discussed here, not inanimate objects. Pigeons are just like us in that they are sociable, emotional, intelligent, they feel pain, and they seek to live. They are not potatoes or coal, or any other type of commodity; they are living things with central nervous systems.

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child. There is no justification for it.

What is being discussed in this thread is as vile as it gets. Some of you people need to wake the fuck up and realize that. You need to develop a sense of empathy and compassion for your fellow earthlings. We need to live in harmony together, not as bastards and savages.

Well said Ratiocinator ;)

What is the matter with people on this board slagging Rat off?? There seems to be a huge wave of dislike for anything Rat says, what on earth is so wrong with wanting to respect LIFE..??

I will never forget one time seeing a pair of pigeons hiding out under a bridge that I was walking on, the female was sitting on an egg and the male was sheilding her from me (thinking I was going to harm her..) and it was so sweet..it really brought home to me how intelligent, loving and caring these creatures are.

There are plenty of dandellions and other wild greens that you could just as easily live on that is FREE..leave the poor little sweethearts ALONE..

:)

[Ratiocinator]

For somebody who thinks they are out to save animals you have a pretty ugly way of expressing yourself.


It is pretty ugly what happens to animals by this so called civilized and compassionate society.

[Ratiocinator]

There are other comparisons you could have made after all..

I know. Nazism and the slave trade. I use them as well.

[stamaheep]

Well said Rat, Pigeons are fantastic little creatures. I saved a Pigeon from a Kestrel once by simply cycling round the corner and startling the bigger raptor. The Kestrel flew away and the hardy little pigeon shook itself and flew off in a puff of fluffy grey feathers. It was a nice moment, I saved a pigeons life. :)

[alzee]

Well said Rat, Pigeons are fantastic little creatures. I saved a Pigeon from a Kestrel once by simply cycling round the corner and startling the bigger raptor. The Kestrel flew away and the hardy little pigeon shook itself and flew off in a puff of fluffy grey feathers. It was a nice moment, I saved a pigeons life. :)

I wonder if that kestrel needed that pigeon to feed its' chicks...

[al209]

I know. Nazism and the slave trade. I use them as well.

But you chose gay paedo arse rape. why? why not just common or garden rape? why rape at all? does a rapist kill and eat his victim? did the nazis eat the jews? are slaves killed for food?

i think all is not well in your mind rat boy

[kajun666]

These are living creatures being discussed here, not inanimate objects. Pigeons are just like us in that they are sociable, emotional, intelligent, they feel pain, and they seek to live. They are not potatoes or coal, or any other type of commodity; they are living things with central nervous systems.

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child. There is no justification for it.



LOL, I'm glad this forum has a funny Troll. Everything you said was hilarious. I bet you were chuckling away as you typed it all.

Kudos m8, kudos.

[alzee]

Can we make this a pigeon recipe thread now? :)

Here's mine, a delightful pigeon & bacon salad (http://www.channel4.com/food/recipes/chefs/gordon-ramsay/pigeon-salad-recipe_p_1.html).

from this:

http://www.pigeon-shooting.co.uk/images/pigeon2.jpg

to this:

http://rbgr.billxinli.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/f_word_episode_8_recipe_ahero_07.jpg

lovely jubly :D

[hunter77]

Pigeon is very nice food, I rate it as good as steak :)

I shoot several hundred a year :cool:



Do you have any recipes :confused: Or are you just being a knob:)




You truly are a dumb f**ker arn't you :)

I don't have to justify killing pigeons to a tool like you, you don't have a clue.

Waylander:cool:

pigeon, is great meat, very accessible ,completly wide spread . cause it lives on a varied diet ,tasty(mmmm):D

well done for putting the rat in his place, you are a gent of the highest caliber:):D

[waylander]

I always like to save the livers. in my freezer.

Then at Christmas I make a nice pate. Proper food!

Waylander:cool:
P.S. Good days shooting & nice looking Lab:)

[jojo]

I challenge anyone here to justify ending the life of a pigeon - life which is just as precious as that of any human child.



do you honestly believe that? really?

[alzee]

do you honestly believe that? really?

Youre asking that question of a militant-veggie, of course he believes it. My step-mother was just the same :rolleyes:

[hunter77]

rooks are good in season also, cant beat a rook pie.
as well as using the livers it ia also good to use the carcasus for stock.
although ferrets are quite partial to them as well:)

[feckthehuns]

Nooooooo!!! Save the pigeons! I had a pet pigeon that I rescued when some builders threw him out of his nest.... but he died when he flew into my toilet and developed a chill :(:(

True story

[batou]

No. What's fucked-up is to say that it is a fine idea to kill pigeons.

What I wrote is a glaringly obvious parallel to what you are advocating.

Fundamentally there is no difference between pederastic rape and killing for 'food'; both activities are unnecessary. Both create innocent victims. Both are done for pleasure, through ignorance, and through a lack of empathy and compassion.

Both are abhorrent.

1. A pigeon isn't haunted for the rest of his life, as is a rape victim
2. A pigeon is prey
3. People need to eat, but not rape.
4. The food chain... it's natural to eat other animals.

Why does your mind link rape, and killing a pigeon to eat?
What kind of brainwashing have you suffered?

Shooting pigeons for the hell of it... I would agree that's wrong, but still not even in the same class as rape.

[hunter77]

Nooooooo!!! Save the pigeons! I had a pet pigeon that I rescued when some builders threw him out of his nest.... but he died when he flew into my toilet and developed a chill :(:(

True story

that would of been a feral pigeon, not good to eat anyway. flying rats

[Ratiocinator]

well done for putting the rat in his place,

Did he?


you are a gent of the highest caliber:):D

Coming from you, saying something like that really doesn't mean very much at all. In fact reverse the meaning of the words you use and the truth would likely be much closer.

[Ratiocinator]

do you honestly believe that? really?

Are you kidding?

What do you mean 'do I honestly believe that?' Do you think it is not the case? If you do, I would be bloody interested to hear your explanation for doing so.

[exmicrochipmafia]

I'm not defending killing pigeons, i just think you go on about bumsex quite a lot. That most likely suggests a latent desire for such activities. There are other comparisons you could have made after all..

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you got the nail on the head with that one.

[Ratiocinator]

1. A pigeon isn't haunted for the rest of his life, as is a rape victim

The pigeon doesn’t have a chance to be haunted for the rest of his life. He is killed.

Moreover, what the fuck do you know about pigeon psychology? Do you think it is not possible for anything other than the master race to become traumatised? You need to speak with people who run animal sanctuaries. What a truly despicable attitude you hold.



2. A pigeon is prey

Anything is prey to a predator. What a dumb thing to write. You are prey to a human serial killer. You are especially prey to a lion or alligator.

3. People need to eat, but not rape.

People need to eat, but not pigeons or anything else from the animal or bird kingdoms.

We are physiological plant eaters, and ill-designed for flesh. People need to eat pigeons as much as they need to eat their own fucking limbs.

Read this and learn something:

http://www.earthsave.ca/articles/health/comparative.html

4. The food chain... it's natural to eat other animals.


The food chain! Careful, you really are sounding religious now!

This food chain bollocks is a religion - a religion of stupid people to justify living a stupid life of violence and cruelty. They see on the telly pictures of lions killing oxen and then believe that they, too, should be out doing the same! This is such an idiotic dogmatism, and completely unfounded.

If you had ever bothered to investigate before commenting, you would realise that humans, just as elephants, giraffes, and hippopotami (to whom is the elephant prey?), are herbivores - albeit bastardised herbivores who think they are as lions! Humans are fools.

Why does your mind link rape, and killing a pigeon to eat?
What kind of brainwashing have you suffered?

I seriously have difficulty fathoming the stupidity displayed by some of you. I truly am thankful that not all members of this forum are as you are.

In this instance, rape, just as killing animals and birds, is an unnecessary brutal act which results in innocent victims. Killing animals and birds is done for pleasure, not necessity. It is also done as a result of lack of empathy and mental illness. It is done as a result of a psychic imbalance which makes people want to exert their power over others and dominate their fellow earthlings. Rape is done for the same reasons. It is about brutal savages violating others as they please. It is about selfish and deplorable behaviour.

Did I really have to spell that out?


Shooting pigeons for the hell of it... I would agree that's wrong, but still not even in the same class as rape.

At least the rape victim has a chance to recover and get on with their life. So perhaps you are right; killing pigeons is worse.

[exmicrochipmafia]

Pigeons: Feral in cities and towns are probably a no-no. They tend to feed off of refuse, etc and have been known to be carriers of a number of pathogens like anthrax for one. You can catch them and then feed them on a strict grain diet for about a month and it cleans them right up. They taste a lot like liver...if you like the taste.

As for Ratiocinator- couldn't expect anything less of him. I suspect he'd be the one flea-combing all the rats if the plague broke out again.:rolleyes:

[Ratiocinator]

As for Ratiocinator- couldn't expect anything less of him. I suspect he'd be the one flea-combing all the rats if the plague broke out again.:rolleyes:

despite the vociferousness of you and your ilk here, I am glad to know that yours is a dying mentality heading for the scrapheap of obsolete psychopathy.

The new emerging dominant mindset is that of compassion and intelligence. This new benevolent mentality will soon replace your archaic brutality and cesspool-like disposition.

[amercury]

rooks are good in season also, cant beat a rook pie.
as well as using the livers it ia also good to use the carcasus for stock.
although ferrets are quite partial to them as well:)


I saw Gordon Ramsey make a rook pie on TV :o LOL

I was thinking to mysef...man people actually eat rook pie!?...but they all raved about how good the rook tasted, and it didn't look bad.:)

BTW this thread is hilarious

[batou]

The pigeon doesn’t have a chance to be haunted for the rest of his life. He is killed.

Moreover, what the fuck do you know about pigeon psychology? Do you think it is not possible for anything other than the master race to become traumatised? You need to speak with people who run animal sanctuaries. What a truly despicable attitude you hold.





Anything is prey to a predator. What a dumb thing to write. You are prey to a human serial killer. You are especially prey to a lion or alligator.



People need to eat, but not pigeons or anything else from the animal or bird kingdoms.

We are physiological plant eaters, and ill-designed for flesh. People need to eat pigeons as much as they need to eat their own fucking limbs.

Read this and learn something:

http://www.earthsave.ca/articles/health/comparative.html




The food chain! Careful, you really are sounding religious now!

This food chain bollocks is a religion - a religion of stupid people to justify living a stupid life of violence and cruelty. They see on the telly pictures of lions killing oxen and then believe that they, too, should be out doing the same! This is such an idiotic dogmatism, and completely unfounded.

If you had ever bothered to investigate before commenting, you would realise that humans, just as elephants, giraffes, and hippopotami (to whom is the elephant prey?), are herbivores - albeit bastardised herbivores who think they are as lions! Humans are fools.



I seriously have difficulty fathoming the stupidity displayed by some of you. I truly am thankful that not all members of this forum are as you are.

In this instance, rape, just as killing animals and birds, is an unnecessary brutal act which results in innocent victims. Killing animals and birds is done for pleasure, not necessity. It is also done as a result of lack of empathy and mental illness. It is done as a result of a psychic imbalance which makes people want to exert their power over others and dominate their fellow earthlings. Rape is done for the same reasons. It is about brutal savages violating others as they please. It is about selfish and deplorable behaviour.

Did I really have to spell that out?




At least the rape victim has a chance to recover and get on with their life. So perhaps you are right; killing pigeons is worse.

Damn dude, you have a lot of rage.
Eating is a pretty necessary act, too.

[Ratiocinator]

Damn dude, you have a lot of rage.

I am one of those rare types who can see injustice where it occurs.

Eating is a pretty necessary act, too.

No shit! i acknowledged that, did you not read that part? Eating food is necessary. Eating pigeons, is not.

[batou]

Well you are rabidly anti carnivore, and I don't see a problem with it. We are going to go around in circles, and not convince each other. Let us agree to disagree.
Please take solace in that I am probably not going to eat pigeon unless things get bad. :p

[Ratiocinator]

I saw Gordon Ramsey make a rook pie on TV :o LOL

I was thinking to mysef...man people actually eat rook pie!?...but they all raved about how good the rook tasted, and it didn't look bad.:)

The people on TV love you. They do not serve an agenda! Notice how many vegan cookery shows are on TV?

BTW this thread is hilarious

The Romans used to find hilarious Christians and ethnic minorities being slain in the Colosseum.

[Ratiocinator]

Well you are rabidly anti carnivore,

Firstly, I am not rabidly anything. secondly, I am pro-justice; I stand for reason, logic, compassion, and empathy - empathy for all species.

and I don't see a problem with it.

It is this blindness that is the problem.


Please take solace in that I am probably not going to eat pigeon unless things get bad. :p

How about other birds, animals, fish, and insects? This world will never be at peace while man condemns other creatures to enslavement, exploitation, brutality, and death.

[jojo]

Are you kidding?

What do you mean 'do I honestly believe that?' Do you think it is not the case? If you do, I would be bloody interested to hear your explanation for doing so.


ok then, let me put it to you in the form of a question.

if you were present at a house fire, and there was a trapped child and a trapped bird within the house and you only had time to save one of them. which one would you save?

for me, it would be the child without a doubt.

[waylander]

At least the rape victim has a chance to recover and get on with their life. So perhaps you are right; killing pigeons is worse.

Do you speak any other language apart from arse biscuit :)

You are indeed Daddytool :):)

Waylander:cool:

[jojo]

ok then, let me put it to you in the form of a question.

if you were present at a house fire, and there was a trapped child and a trapped bird within the house and you only had time to save one of them. which one would you save?

for me, it would be the child without a doubt.


please rat, answer the question above.

surley you would rescue the child?

[Ratiocinator]

ok then, let me put it to you in the form of a question.

if you were present at a house fire, and there was a trapped child and a trapped bird within the house and you only had time to save one of them. which one would you save?

for me, it would be the child without a doubt.


Unlike you i respect ALL life. I consider the two life forms as equal. I trust this answers your hypothetical question.

[norton]

just came across this thread, don't know how old it is but lol! this is funny.

Nothing more tedious than self righteous veggies who feel the need to make the world vegetarian and try to make meat eaters feel guilty, get it through you're weak limbed body, we don't feel guilty....it's tasty, tasty very very tasty, it's very tasty! (apart from seafood in my case! :D)

1. that pigeon meal (page 2 or 3) looks damn tasty!

2. it's a freakin' pigeon! they think nothing of shitting on my car so i'll think nothing of eating them. in fact, does anyone know where i could buy one? as i'm a lousy shot :o

3. why is it, if you go out for a meal with a veggie they always feel the need to tell the world they are veggies? they can NEVER just say 'i'll have tomato sauce 'n' pasta' they ALWAYS - no exceptions- say 'i'll have tomato sauce 'n' pasta.....because i'm a vegetarian'.....tossers.

[marpat]

I guess all veggie types are good people. Heinrich Himmler springs to mind, never one to eat an animal :D

[element]

3. why is it, if you go out for a meal with a veggie they always feel the need to tell the world they are veggies? they can NEVER just say 'i'll have tomato sauce 'n' pasta' they ALWAYS - no exceptions- say 'i'll have tomato sauce 'n' pasta.....because i'm a vegetarian'.....tossers.
Simple logic. There are a lot of products which seem 'vegetarian' but still contain slaughter-by-products. Gelatine and rennet for example.
I hope that answers your question.

What Jojo said, I would instinctively safe the child if I had only one choice.

I guess all veggie types are good people. Heinrich Himmler springs to mind, never one to eat an animal :D
Just as there have been many genuine, inspirational veggies..what can you say? Rotten apples are everywhere.

[al209]

Unlike you i respect ALL life. I consider the two life forms as equal. I trust this answers your hypothetical question.

Nice side step. Answer the fucking question

[norton]

Simple logic. There are a lot of products which seem 'vegetarian' but still contain slaughter-by-products. Gelatine and rennet for example.
I hope that answers your question.




well, on a menu it will have a 'v' next to it if suitable for veggies. there is no need to explain your actions.

personally, if i was a waiter and someone said that, i'd drizzle lard over their rabbit food.

back to ratty, you obviously don't have kids. you can't possibly value a pigeons life on par with a human child.

[Ratiocinator]

Nice side step. Answer the fucking question

What is it about my answer that you have failed to understand?

[Ratiocinator]

I guess all veggie types are good people. Heinrich Himmler springs to mind, never one to eat an animal :D

How about Gandhi?

[al209]

back to ratty, you obviously don't have kids. you can't possibly value a pigeons life on par with a human child.

That must be true, he wouldnt go on about arse raping kids all the time if he did..

[Ratiocinator]

back to ratty, you obviously don't have kids. you can't possibly value a pigeons life on par with a human child.


OK, genius. You explain to me why a human life is not equal with that of a pigeon?

[norton]

OK, genius. You explain to me why a human life is not equal with that of a pigeon?


i'm saying a human life is more valuable than a pigeons life.

given the choice of saving a humans life or birds life, i'd save the human everytime.

given the choice of sharing food with a starving human or starving bird, i'd give it to the human

etc etc

[Ratiocinator]

That must be true, he wouldnt go on about arse raping kids all the time if he did..

Norton likes the taste of dead animals. In his perverse world, transient taste pleasures - pleasures which can easily be found elsewhere - is justification enough for brutally killing innocent creatures.

You tell me why the pleasure experienced by paedophiles does not justify the arse raping of children?

Eating meat and paedophilic rape are two of the same. Both selfish activities which leave innocent victims.

[Ratiocinator]

i'm saying a human life is more valuable than a pigeons life.

I know you are, which is why I am asking you to justify it.

[Ratiocinator]

http://www.speciesism.com/arpage.htm

[waylander]

OK, genius. You explain to me why a human life is not equal with that of a pigeon?

If you can't see it for yourself, your too thick for it to be explained to you :)

Waylander:cool:

[alzee]

C'mon folks, don't leave the recipes to just me!

I've not tried this one but it looks gorgeous :D Let us know if you try it.

Tandoori-style Pigeon Breast
You may find this recipe a bit long-winded, as I did to begin with. But I know from my limited experience that certain preparations such as marinating, toasting and grinding, or almost burning and blending the spices, actually f make a difference to the end result and taste, and all the effort is worthwhile. So don't just look at the recipe and think, "Oh forget it, that will take hours," just try it. Most of the work goes into the kebabs, so you could just do the pigeon breasts with the two marinades. I've matched the pigeon with the lemon rice - The Cinnamon Club Cookbook, and Das Sreedharan's Indian have similar recipes for this, but I've taken Das's version. Hope you don't mind, chaps.

4 pigeons with or without their livers
1tbsp vegetable or corn oil

for the kebabs

1tbsp vegetable or corn oil
1¿4tsp royal or black cumin seeds
1 onion, peeled and finely chopped
1 small beetroot (100g), peeled and finely chopped
1¿4tsp red chilli powder
1¿4tsp cumin seeds lightly roasted and ground
1tsp chopped root ginger
2 green chillies, seeded and chopped
A few mint leaves, shredded
1tsp salt
1¿4tsp garam masala
1 egg, beaten
Dried or fresh breadcrumbs for coating
Oil for deep frying

for the first marinade

1tsp crushed root ginger
1tsp crushed garlic
1tsp salt
1tsp red chilli powder
Juice of half a lemon

for the second marinade

1tsp fried onion paste (1¿2 small onion, chopped, fried and blended into a paste)
1tbsp Greek yoghurt
1¿2tsp garam masala
1¿2tsp salt
1tbsp vegetable or corn oil

Remove the breasts and legs from the pigeons. Put the breasts to one side and then strip all the meat from the legs with a sharp knife. Remove the skin and chop the meat as finely as possible together with any livers, or simply mince it.

To make the kebabs, heat the oil in a pan and add the cumin seeds. When they start to crackle, add the onion and sauté until golden brown. Add the chopped pigeon meat and the beetroot and sauté for 3 minutes, then add the chilli powder and ground cumin and cook until the mixture is almost dry. Stir in the ginger, chillies, mint, salt and garam masala, then remove from the heat and leave to cool. Shape into 4 cakes.

Mix the ingredients for the first marinade and rub over the pigeon breasts. Leave to marinate for at least 20 minutes. Preheat the oven to 200°C/400°F/gas mark 6. Heat a grill or barbecue.

Skewer the pigeon breasts and grill them or pan-fry them for 3-4 minutes on each side so they remain a little pink in the middle. Mix the ingredients for the second marinade, spread it over the pigeon, and transfer to a baking tray in the oven and cook for 3-5 minutes.

Meanwhile heat the oil in an electric fryer or deep pan to 160-180°C. Dip the kebab mix in the beaten egg, then roll them in the breadcrumbs. Deep-fry for 3-4 minutes until golden brown. Drain on kitchen paper and serve with the pigeon breasts, on the same skewers, if you like, on the rice.

[backbeat]

In his perverse world, transient taste pleasures - pleasures which can easily be found elsewhere - is justification enough for brutally killing innocent creatures.

What about the poor innocent cabbages veg killer?

[element]

well, on a menu it will have a 'v' next to it if suitable for veggies. there is no need to explain your actions.

Apparently, that is not the case everywhere.

[al209]

What is it about my answer that you have failed to understand?

the fact is, it wasnt an answer, it was a side step. You can only save one..which is it?

A human child could grow up to be something special, could change the world. A pigeon will only ever be a dumb animal. Perhaps that doesnt justify eating them, but it makes a great case for saving the kid. What if the baby Gandhi was in a house fire and someone saved the fucking budgie?

[Ratiocinator]

C'mon folks, don't leave the recipes to just me!


What an incredibly fucking puerile thing to do, posting such a recipe in such a way. This is typical of the sort of mentality responsible for much of the shit in the world.

Fuck your goading efforts. Why not contribute something of worth instead? -Silly me, it's likely beyond you, as thusly evidenced.

[Ratiocinator]

If you can't see it for yourself, your too thick for it to be explained to you :)

Waylander:cool:

Haha! Oh my, I am so fucking surprised by your reply!

You people are incapable of answering my simple question. All you cvan offer is shit such as that quoted above, claiming the answer to be 'so obvious it doen's need saying'!

My God, listen to your fucking selves.

Now, answer me my simple question. You live and kill and rape by its answer, yet you are all incapable of expressing it in text and posting it here.

Haha!

[alzee]

What an incredibly fucking puerile thing to do, posting such a recipe in such a way. This is typical of the sort of mentality responsible for much of the shit in the world.

Fuck your goading efforts. Why not contribute something of worth instead? -Silly me, it's likely beyond you, as thusly evidenced.

Check out the thread title, asshat. Just because you've turned up and trashed the thread doesn't mean I have to ignore the OP's question nor offer some tasty recipes :)

[norton]

Norton likes the taste of dead animals. In his perverse world, transient taste pleasures - pleasures which can easily be found elsewhere - is justification enough for brutally killing innocent creatures.

You tell me why the pleasure experienced by paedophiles does not justify the arse raping of children?

Eating meat and paedophilic rape are two of the same. Both selfish activities which leave innocent victims.

hmmm, odd comparison there, if you really can't see the difference between eating meat and raping children....there is no helping you.

nothing beats the pleasure of a bacon sandwich first thing in the morning!

and i don't find eating meat orgasmic, so your comparison isn't relevant either and the fact you try to make the 2 the same.. i think says more about you.

[Ratiocinator]

the fact is, it wasnt an answer, it was a side step. You can only save one..which is it?

Let's say that there are two children - twins - and only one can be rescued. Let's also say that you are their parent. Which one would you rescue, bearing in mind that you love them both equally?

I am sure my answer would be the same as yours.

A human child could grow up to be something special, could change the world. A pigeon will only ever be a dumb animal.

What kind of racist, prejudiced bullshit is that for an answer? That is pure Nazi-like dogmatism. So, by your reasoning, you would happily slaughter old people with Alzheimer's, people ion a vegetative state, and various disabled people in favour of the earth worm, because only the earthworm is likely to actually achieve something useful during it's life?


Perhaps that doesnt justify eating them, but it makes a great case for saving the kid. What if the baby Gandhi was in a house fire and someone saved the fucking budgie?


Damned right it doesn't justify it.

The child is more likely to grow up to become a polluter, a useless eater, a vacuous consumer, a user, or a Hitler, than a fucking Gandhi figure.

[Ratiocinator]

Check out the thread title, asshat. Just because you've turned up and trashed the thread doesn't mean I have to ignore the OP's question nor offer some tasty recipes :)

How silly of me. I forgot the vile and deplorable purpose of this thread. I had hoped that compassion, intelligence, and reason would have taken hold, but I guess I was wrong.


Compassion? Intelligence? Reason? Loving one's fellow creatures equally? On the David Icke forum? I must have lost my fucking head!

[norton]

ratty doesn't seem to like people at all. so much hate in him. lack of vitamins. do yourself a favour, go to a buger van and order a breakfast roll. i promise you'll feel fu**in' great after !! :D

[Ratiocinator]

hmmm, odd comparison there, if you really can't see the difference between eating meat and raping children....there is no helping you.


I notice that the only retort you have to offer is one of merely claiming that there is no comparison.

I have explained my comparison several times, yet no one has offered any refutation, just opinion without any explanation to back it up.

[norton]

I notice that the only retort you have to offer is one of merely claiming that there is no comparison.

I have explained my comparison several times, yet no one has offered any refutation, just opinion without any explanation to back it up.


because there is no comparison. you can't compare the two and it just makes you look like a freaking moron

by your rationale, anyone capable of eating meat is capable of raping children.....

[al209]

Let's say that there are two children - twins - and only one can be rescued. Let's also say that you are their parent. Which one would you rescue, bearing in mind that you love them both equally?

I am sure my answer would be the same as yours..

I would grab the nearest and never get over it. Better than them both die. And anyway, we're talking about fucking birds here..



What kind of racist, prejudiced bullshit is that for an answer? That is pure Nazi-like dogmatism. So, by your reasoning, you would happily slaughter old people with Alzheimer's, people ion a vegetative state, and various disabled people in favour of the earth worm, because only the earthworm is likely to actually achieve something useful during it's life?..

How the fuck is that racist you tool? Racist against pigeons?

The child is more likely to grow up to become a polluter, a useless eater, a vacuous consumer, a user, or a Hitler, than a fucking Gandhi figure.
The child should be given a chance, the pigeon will never amount to shit.

[alzee]

Pigeon Pie recipe

5 fl oz (150 ml) red wine
2 tab!espoons (30 ml) port
6 juniper berries, crushed
2 tablespoons (30 ml) vegetabie oil
4 pigeons
1 oz (25 g) butter
1 tbsp (15 ml) vegetabie oil
1 onion, finely chopped
4 rashers streaky bacon, rinds removed, chopped
12 oz (350 g) chuck steak, trimmed and cut into 1 inch (2.5 cm) cubes
6 oz (175 g) flat mushrooms, thickly sliced
few sprigs of parsley, chopped
1/2 tsp dried thyme
12 oz (350 g) shortcrust pastry


method
1. Mix together wine, port, juniper berries and oil for the marinade and season with freshly ground black pepper. Remove breasts from the pigeons and cut into large pieces. Put into a non-metallic dish, pour over the marinade, cover. Leave in fridge overnight.

2. Melt the butter and oil in a frying pan, add the onion and bacon and fry gently for 5 minutes. Remove with a slotted spoon, reserve.

3. Remove pigeon from the marinade, drain. Reserve marinade. Increase heat and fry the pigeon and the steak in batches, sealing on all sides.

4. Put the pigeon, steak, onion and bacon into a 2 pint (1.25 litre) pie dish and top with the mushrooms. Sprinkle with herbs, pour over the reserved marinade.

5. Roll out the pastry to 1/4 inch (5 mm) thick, put a pie funnel into the dish. Cut a 1/2 inch (1 cm) strip of pastry and place around the edge of the dish. Brush with water and top with the remaining pastry. Use the pastry trimmings to decorate the top of the pie.

6. Bake at Mark 4 (180°C) 350°F for 20 minutes, then reduce the heat to Mark 2 (150°C) 300°F and cook for a further 1 1/2 hours. Cover the pastry with foil if it browns too much during cooking.


serving amount
serves 5 - 6

http://www.cookitsimply.com/i/ss/m/1251-1500/1410.jpg

[norton]

that's one tasty looking pie!

someone seems to have gone quiet all of a sudden. :rolleyes:

[jojo]

The child is more likely to grow up to become a polluter, a useless eater, a vacuous consumer, a user, or a Hitler, than a fucking Gandhi figure.

oh dear rat, i feel so sorry for you, honestly i do. so much anger and hatred for your own species. I suspect you could do with some healing at a deep soul level.

[kajun666]

Im thinking, instead of pigeons why not seagulls, or a nice Fox's stew. Anyone had Badger pie and mash?

:D

[norton]

lol! mmm, magpie soup (has to be 2 in there though)

or how about hamster steak on a bed of horses minge (gone to far do you think?)


Oooo! bit of goss, rat's on a warning! who grassed?

[al209]

i suspect he has deep problems. all that hate and bile he manifests.. You gotta feel sorry for him really. I would hate to be in such a place inside.

Certainly his diet hasnt made him at peace

[i_am]

OK guys, can we please not discuss another member.

Thanks :)

[hunter77]

i go to work , and miss all the juicy action:D
any one interested in game recipies theres a recipie thread on here with loads in , i will post the thread number http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53223:. its not all game and wild recipies but theres loads on there if you sift through.:D

[fuggles]

in fact, certain cat breeds naturally kill rabbits and pigeons, so they could do the work for me

[smariot]

by your rationale, anyone capable of eating meat is capable of raping children.....
I'm capable of both, but choose to do neither.

How the fuck is that racist you tool? Racist against pigeons?

Technically, it's speciesist.

The child should be given a chance, the pigeon will never amount to shit.
You can only say that because you can't be hurt by it. If an advanced alien race touched down and said 'what a worthless bunch of hairless apes, the only thing they'll be good for is as a cheap source of protein', you'd be the first to object. Of course, they'll take the annoying sounds you'll make to be an 'involuntary reaction of your primitive nervous system, something evolution has programmed you to do, and certainly isn't an indication that you're a thinking feeling being.'

[waylander]

c'mon folks, don't leave the recipes to just me!



Pigeon Pate.

6oz butter
Half an onion finely chopped,
1 apple chopped
Salt & Pepper
1 glass of wine
8 pigeon breasts chopped:)
dash of cream.
2 teaspoons mustard.

Fry the apples & onion. Add the pigeon until just pink.
Tip into a food proccesor add the rest of the ingredients and blend untill smooth.

Tip into terrine and allow to cool.

Occasionally I add a few pigeon livers to the above, if i remember to collect them, instead of just breasting off in the field.:)

Enjoy on french bread.

Waylander:cool:

[fuggles]

what about eating foxes ? they seem plentiful these days

setting up a trap could be useful too

My park has lots of squirrels in it aswell

[godgoo]

pigeon could be a very useful staple in a flood mate, but why it's dry just hatch some chickens.

[fuggles]

nature will always work its magic and send us an animal to eat

and chicken is dry, i dont know how to cook it so it tastes nice though

[batou]

Boil it or fry it..

[fuggles]

thanks

fried in coconut oil with turmeric so it creates a paste

nice