What Is Time?

[peejay]

If time travel is possible then that would mean the future has already happened, so does that make our lives pre determined?
Also if you went back in time and changed the past then all you would be doing is creating an alternative timeline, which then means there must be an infinite amount of timelines as every choice we make and everything that happens shapes our future (butterfly effect).


and if only the present exists then wouldn't that mean that time travel isn't possible?


The 10th dimension videos are also very interesting..
Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/user/10thdim

[sphere555]

We can look at time as: calendar time, physical time and psychological/emotional/subjective time. They are all related. The Gregorian calendar for example, is an example of calendar time, and it's both nasty and good imo. Psychological time is another interesting form of time, where sometimes one minute can seem like a long time, while in other situations several hours can feel like no time at all has passed. Physical time is the exact movement of atoms etc.

One important thing about the future: the future cannot fully be predicted in the now.

That's the scientific mind talking. Remember what Forest Gump said about life? It's both deterministic and random, meaning, because this reality is an illusion inside the Matrix computer, there are certain "check-points" in the future, which you must pass through. If you were destined to meet someone in the future, you will meet that person regardless of what you do. But between now and the appointed time, which was preordained, any number of non-destiny-altering random events may occur in your life to give you the illusion of having free choice.

There are people, who waste needless energy going out to look for love. Don't bother. When the time is right, you'll fall in love with the person you fell in love with in your past life in the exact same situation and at same age. If you betrayed your wife at such and such age in your last life, your ego will attract the same betrayal again, at the exact same age, etc. This physical life you're living in is just a minor variation on the last one. It's only when you're willing to give up control of your life are you given the power to change it for the better.

[sphere555]

Those who stress over time are under the delusion that they are in control of it. Let it go, work smart (not hard) and enjoy life. Whatever was meant to come your way will come your way regardless of if you choose to feel shitty/good about yourself, fight/walk your way to getting to that point. Don't stress over them or try to want more by applying the law of attraction, etc.

[steevo]

I have posted the following information in other threads but I thought that it would also apply to THIS thread too, so here it is :-

It is very interesting that the word "clock" is derived from "bell". This makes me think that maybe a clock is a silent bell that "rings" (in our mind) and tells us that we must start the days "work" (as a slave), and it rings again (in our minds) when thePTB allow us to stop working. The PTB could get rid of clocks and just use bells....BUT we would NOT we accept this (or would we :eek:).

The English word clock probably comes from the Middle Dutch word "klocke" which is in turn derived from the mediaeval Latin word "clocca", which is ultimately derived from Celtic, and is cognate with French, Latin, and German words that mean bell. The passage of the hours at sea were marked by bells, and denoted the time (see ship's bells). The hours were marked by bells in the abbeys as well as at sea.


A chip-scale atomic clockClocks can range from watches, to more exotic varieties such as the Clock of the Long Now. They can be driven by a variety of means, including gravity, springs, and various forms of electrical power, and regulated by a variety of means such as a pendulum.

A chronometer is a portable timekeeper that meets certain precision standards. Initially, the term was used to refer to the marine chronometer, a timepiece used to determine longitude by means of celestial navigation. More recently, the term has also been applied to the chronometer watch, a wristwatch that meets precision standards set by the Swiss agency COSC.

The most accurate timekeeping devices are atomic clocks, which are accurate to seconds in many millions of years, and are used to calibrate other clocks and timekeeping instruments. Atomic clocks use the spin property of atoms as their basis, and since 1967, the International System of Measurements bases its unit of time, the second, on the properties of caesium atoms. SI defines the second as 9,192,631,770 cycles of that radiation which corresponds to the transition between two electron spin energy levels of the ground state of the 133Cs atom.

Time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (wikipedia :o)

[sphere555]

I have posted the following information in other threads but I thought that it would also apply to THIS thread too, so here it is :-

It is very interesting that the word "clock" is derived from "bell". This makes me think that maybe a clock is a silent bell that "rings" (in our mind) and tells us that we must start the days "work" (as a slave), and it rings again (in our minds) when thePTB allow us to stop working. The PTB could get rid of clocks and just use bells....BUT we would NOT we accept this (or would we :eek:).



Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time) (wikipedia :o)

It's funny that you mention it, because 666 is found on the face of a clock, or wristwatch:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92272

Talk about labor ownage... :cool:

[steevo]

It's funny that you mention it, because 666 is found on the face of a clock, or wristwatch:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92272

Talk about labor ownage... :cool:

The PTB would NEVER miss an opportunity like that :cool:

[white horse]

Time is what we perception as a result of the flow of energy from one state to another;

I believe that time does not exist as we imagine it.

Time does not flow... the universe does not move...

Imagine time is like the cells of a roll of film. Each of those cells is tatic.

The universe is static. Each point in the Universe has a potential number of points it can move to next (or stay still), a bit like the tesalated stones of teh Giant's Causeway...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Causeway-code_poet-4.jpg/800px-Causeway-code_poet-4.jpg

... each moment in time represents one stone/brick. The Universe can move to any of the neighbouring bricks in the next instance of time. And so on. This is in relation to the amount of energy in the Universe.

Nothing actually moves, matter simply goes from one static state to another static state, that is very slightly different.

Play that to an audience at full speed and it gives the impression of movement - i.e. energy - i.e time -

Time can only exist as a result of the use of energy. If the Universe was at rest there would be no time because there would be nothing moving and there would be no energy to transfer to a measuring device (clock/watch) to perceive the passage of time/energy.

Time is dependent upon matter - if there is no matter then there is nothing for the energy to interact with and there will be no perceived kinetic motion to the Universe (no matter to move).

Time = Matter + Energy

[kblood]

If time travel is possible then that would mean the future has already happened, so does that make our lives pre determined?
Also if you went back in time and changed the past then all you would be doing is creating an alternative timeline, which then means there must be an infinite amount of timelines as every choice we make and everything that happens shapes our future (butterfly effect).


and if only the present exists then wouldn't that mean that time travel isn't possible?


The 10th dimension videos are also very interesting..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

http://www.youtube.com/user/10thdim

I have a theory that our reality is not one of infinite alternate timelines. Maybe infinite timelines of different realities but not the same. I also believe time travel is possible, since I believe preminitions of the future has been somewhat proven. If anyone can predict some of the future, then it means the future does exist before it happens in someway, and able to affect the past, and the past is always able to afffect the future.

How would it be possible for someone to travel back in time with entering a new timeline? My guess is this Universe is a product of a conciousness dreaming everything into existance and it can therefore also make a paradox possible and de-paradox it in some way. So lets say you travel to the past and meet yourself, then the future self of you will gain the memory of meeting itself in its own past as the experience happens. And this is when fate begins playing in, because then for this moment to still happen, the past self should not change its oppinion about meeting itself.

I think the most basic description of my theory is that our reality is a consensus reality. Everything from time to the laws of physics. So if some paradox was to happen that is to be impossible, then maybe part of the timeline is allowed to split and have two different outcomes, but with both at some point joining together in the same timeline again. Or maybe even that will not happen, and a consensus will be made of what happened. It is a bit like the branch falling deep in the forest, does it make a sound if noone hears it? Unless people goes against this consensus of laws of physics and what is happening, has happened and will happen then that is the way things will stay.

[steevo]

I have a theory that our reality is not one of infinite alternate timelines. Maybe infinite timelines of different realities but not the same. I also believe time travel is possible, since I believe preminitions of the future has been somewhat proven. If anyone can predict some of the future, then it means the future does exist before it happens in someway, and able to affect the past, and the past is always able to afffect the future.

How would it be possible for someone to travel back in time with entering a new timeline? My guess is this Universe is a product of a conciousness dreaming everything into existance and it can therefore also make a paradox possible and de-paradox it in some way. So lets say you travel to the past and meet yourself, then the future self of you will gain the memory of meeting itself in its own past as the experience happens. And this is when fate begins playing in, because then for this moment to still happen, the past self should not change its oppinion about meeting itself.

I think the most basic description of my theory is that our reality is a consensus reality. Everything from time to the laws of physics. So if some paradox was to happen that is to be impossible, then maybe part of the timeline is allowed to split and have two different outcomes, but with both at some point joining together in the same timeline again. Or maybe even that will not happen, and a consensus will be made of what happened. It is a bit like the branch falling deep in the forest, does it make a sound if noone hears it? Unless people goes against this consensus of laws of physics and what is happening, has happened and will happen then that is the way things will stay.

Time travel or dimensional travel, whatever you wanna call it - It aint something that is easy to prove (that I know of anyway). If someone has a preminition, and then tells the people involved what is about to happen, then they can change it. Therefore our "future" is not destined.

We can apparently predict when the solar eclipse is going to happen, but that dont mean that it is pre-planned before hand. An eclipse prediction is just based on observing the diection that something is moving, and then measuring the speed, and working out a date.

What sort of preminition do you mean Kblood ?

[kblood]

Time travel or dimensional travel, whatever you wanna call it - It aint something that is easy to prove (that I know of anyway). If someone has a preminition, and then tells the people involved what is about to happen, then they can change it. Therefore our "future" is not destined.

We can apparently predict when the solar eclipse is going to happen, but that dont mean that it is pre-planned before hand. An eclipse prediction is just based on observing the diection that something is moving, and then measuring the speed, and working out a date.

What sort of preminition do you mean Kblood ?

If we are to believe all kinds of premonitions I have heard about, then some people dream of accidents happening. Although they do not know where it will happen they might see it in the news or read about it in a paper.

Then there is Nostradamus who might have foreseen many things, although I guess his premonitions could be interpreted in many ways.

And we have the Deja Vu which might also be seeing something in the near future but we just did not remember seeing it.

Fortune tellers is hard to prove but if true (and I do think some of them are) then they have ways to see into the future. Maybe through spirits or something like that, and if they can do it then there can be a two way interaction of sorts with the future.

And exactly, I do not believe our future is destined. I just believe if something changes, then our memory of it just changes along with it, maybe even some will remember what happened "the first time it happened".

But without proof I guess all can be said to be pure guess work.

[camreeno]

Well yeah, it's not very hard to understand. What we call "seconds", "hours", etc. are nothing but measurements of the movement of objects. We only have "time" because things are moving and seem to have chronology. Everything is in the NOW and future and past are just illusions.

[rodin]

Well yeah, it's not very hard to understand. What we call "seconds", "hours", etc. are nothing but measurements of the movement of objects. We only have "time" because things are moving and seem to have chronology. Everything is in the NOW and future and past are just illusions.

Now is always Now of course. In a Roland digital recorder I reviewed they used NOW time - a window that the recorded music scrolled thru

But time can be measured from past to present and predicted forward

So the past is real and so is the elapsed time

Falling ball

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Falling_ball.jpg

[heartbeatsalute]

Noun, 1. elapsed time - the time that elapses while some event is occurring.
period, period of time, time period - an amount of time; "a time period of 30 years"; ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/elapsed+time - 28k - Similar pages

I agree, the past is gone, and the future is yet to come, so we only have the present, the NOW :D

[heartbeatsalute]

http://c69282.r82.cf3.rackcdn.com/time_is_money_gp_rtg.jpg

[heartbeatsalute]

" In 1572 Pope Gregory announced that a new calendar was to be introduced, The Gregorian Calendar, and it was implemented in October 1582.
It was another Brotherhood scam and the Gregorian Calendar became the fixed standard time for the planet.

This means that the human mind is tuned to this manufactured flow of 'time'
when we look at a clock, watch, or plan the future with a diary

(....) The Gregorian Calendar is a farce.It is the time eqauivalent of throwing all your clothes in a wardrobe and leaning against the door to stop it flinging open. Here we have a 12 month year of 6o minute hours and 24 hour day with the months so ill fitting that some are 30 days, others 31 , another 28, or 29 every four years. The idea was to disconnect human conciousness from Moon time , and the Gregorian Calendar removed the 13th moon . Instead we have 12 months and 12 moon cycles The Brotherhood hierarchy still l operate their calendars to Moon time--another reason for their obsession with 13.

And when you disconnect people from the natural flow of time ,you are disconnecting them from all that operates in that flow of time. Thus the Western (and incresingly Global 'civilisation') has lost his rapport with the natural world and is out of sync with its environment."

THE BIGGEST SECRET----DAVID ICKE

Good David Icke quote on Time