Breastfeeding at 8

[drhemp]

Breastfeeding...at 8. - YouTube

Breastfeeding at 8 years old. Right or wrong?

[beldazar]

A dear sweet doctor I once had said that if we were all to live as natural people we would be breastfeeding our children until they were 7 so she isnt that gross really...we have been conditioned to even THINK that breastfeeding is something to be ashamed of.
My personal opinion. I would be more than happy to see a mum breastfeed til a child was 3, my friend did one of hers til she was 2 and a half, god I was proud of her as where she lives (Ireland) they hand out bottles just after birth!
As for me feeding an 8 year old child.......no thanks :eek:

[moondancer]

sorry but.. *shudder*

[mountain]

Oh my...
Well, I don't know Beldazar, you could be right but even me own mother cats box their kittens away after some point... :D

[lookfar]

I think that's very wrong. Upto around 18mths - 2yrs is ample imo. I certainly wouldn't do more than that, it just wouldn't feel right.

EDIT: I've just seen a bit of the vid & it's made me feel queasy:o:(

[beldazar]

Oh my...
Well, I don't know Beldazar, you could be right but even me own mother cats box their kittens away after some point... :D


lol. Did anyone see a docu on the telly about this subject several years back? One mum was feeding her 14 year old! I kid you not! Thats too weird....:eek:

[lakkimakki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74

Breastfeeding at 8 years old. Right or wrong?

i dont think its wrong ,i Remember My Father Told Me when he was 12 years old he was still feeding from mothers breast .

I Laughed And Laughed And Laughed....:D wahhahahah

that was 40 years ago!!

[hunter77]

lol. Did anyone see a docu on the telly about this subject several years back? One mum was feeding her 14 year old! I kid you not! Thats too weird....:eek:

reminds me of little brittain. BITTY, :eek:

[beldazar]

i dont think its wrong ,i Remember My Father Told Me when he was 12 years old he was still feeding from mothers breast .

I Laughed And Laughed And Laughed....:D wahhahahah

that was 40 years ago!!


well I wonder if that was the norm then? We have all been bloody mind controlled to put them on cows milk which is unnatural anyway, then powdered shite which is.....well, even more unnatural and big bucks for the manufacturers...plus mothers milk is much higher in antibodies and is meant to be given to kids (not the goaty ones though.....:D)

[beldazar]

reminds me of little brittain. BITTY, :eek:

lol, yeah, funny! :D

[limelady]

IMO, breastfeeding is for giving babies a good start in life. When they are capable of eating and drinking on their own, then (for me at least) it was 'all over red rover'!

I agree with Lookie....the thought of it beyond toddler age makes me somewhat queasy also, because it doesn't seem natural to carry on for the sake of it....more of a self-indulgence on the mother's part or something(?) and its hardly necessary when comfort can still be offered on-going to growing children via lots of daily hugs and cuddles.

But each to their own. :)

[thelyran]

...when both our children were born,partner and I cut a deal,she breastfeed
until 2 years old each child.For the first 3 months,nothing but,then started
mixing food and schedules.Both children,were,very happy and healthy kids,
always feel loved by us both,plus,you girls might like to know...never once had interupted sleep,my daughter slept with the partner so she could just access the teat,many times,S never had to wake,my son woke twice,in the first 3 years,just rub,his stomach,fart and back to sleep...although,I'd turn green at the wiff of it....the only one who never got sleep was me,due to extreme paranoia,Cot Death,so for the first 5 years,I would just watch them sleep,stayed up every night...I was a worry pot and basketcase...but they're
the best,nicest children around and everyone says so,even the bus driver.
...pity the fool who ever hurts them.But they make friends easy.
...where all my middle-class friends,rather earn money,for extravagant life
styles,sent the kids to the grandparents,within weeks at times,never bonded
with their kids,the kids were always sick,but ours,never got sick until school.
Those un-breastfed kids have a set back in life,sorry to upset females who
can't.I was a bottle fed soya baby,I rejected my mother...

[size_of_light]

When a cow doesn't wean her own calf properly (usually with a kick to the head or two and a steely 'get the hell outta there!' glare ) then the calf will go on sucking indefinitely and I've witnessed the undignified sight of near fully grown heifers still stooping down to squelch at away momma's teats when this has happened.

And Momma always has a silly look of pure pleasure on her face...which is why this youtube clip creeps me out slightly.

Not that women are cows! :eek: Not that women are cows! :eek:

I'm not saying that! :eek:

I better get out of here now. :D

[beldazar]

When a cow doesn't wean her own calf properly (usually with a kick to the head or two and a steely 'get the hell outta there!' glare ) then the calf will go on sucking indefinitely and I've witnessed the undignified sight of near fully grown heifers still stooping down to squelch at away momma's teats when this has happened.

And Momma has a silly look of pure pleasure on her face...which is why this youtube clip creeps me out slightly.

Not that women are cows! :eek: Not that women are cows! :eek:

I'm not saying that! :eek:

I better get out of here now. :D


LMAO!!

One mistake men make is by thinking that women get turned on while breastfeeding WRONG! If that happened the nipple would go hard and not swell, hence no milk! That would never happen... EWW, think I had better go now, waaay to weird! :eek:

[talulah]

Breast Feeding is the most natural thing in the world and its good for babies but im sorry once a child has teeth its wrong.If youve ever breast fed youl know where im coming from.:eek:

[beldazar]

Breast Feeding is the most natural thing in the world and its good for babies but im sorry once a child has teeth its wrong.If youve ever breast fed youl know where im coming from.:eek:

I breastfed both of mine til they just got past 12 months old. neither bit, instinct, bite and OFF YOU GO!

I wonder how things will be in the future if this society is allowed to carry on....powdered milk only, tits just for men, caesarian sections, invitro fertilisation with genetic manipulation...

What Im saying is that if everyone breastfed til children were 7 then this would be accepted by everyone and this thread would never have been started!

[scatlond]

Little Britain: Meeting the Parents - YouTube

[talulah]

I breastfed both of mine til they just got past 12 months old. neither bit, instinct, bite and OFF YOU GO!

Well done hun, i only managed 3 months with mine i couldnt stand the cracked nips and she was still hungry with the breast so it was straight onto a bottle!

:)

[limelady]

LMAO!!

One mistake men make is by thinking that women get turned on while breastfeeding WRONG! If that happened the nipple would go hard and not swell, hence no milk! That would never happen... EWW, think I had better go now, waaay to weird! :eek:

Um sorry bedazar I have to disagree with you here. I knew a women who told me once she became very aroused from breastfeeding and this is why she was reluctant to give it up.

It kind of made me feel quite pukish tbh (shudders involuntarily)....but its actually more common than you may want to think about. :o

http://sexuality.about.com/od/anatomyresponse/a/orgasm_breastfe.htm

[talulah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8orUaCJ0GY

Pmsl i bet Prince Charles still has bitty.bugger Lugs ;)

[beldazar]

Well done hun, i only managed 3 months with mine i couldnt stand the cracked nips and she was still hungry with the breast so it was straight onto a bottle!

:)


thanks, :)

Originally I did it because I didnt want to keep sterilizing bottles not because Im some wonder mum :o I just thought, well, pop 'em out and Bobsur uncle, lol
I wasnt to know they would become a permanent attachment for the first 6 months.......:D

[beldazar]

Um sorry bedazar I have to disagree with you here. I knew a women who told me once she became very aroused from breastfeeding and this is why she was reluctant to give it up.

It kind of made me feel quite pukish tbh (shudders involuntarily)....but its actually more common than you may want to think about. :o

http://sexuality.about.com/od/anatomyresponse/a/orgasm_breastfe.htm

Oh gawd! Ive never heard that before....this thread gets grosser nd grosser! :eek:

I still dont understand though, she cant have been having any milk come through, as Ive said, they go hard! couldnt she have got a bloke to suck on her nipples/ (or a woman if shes that way inclined)

[thelyran]

When a cow doesn't wean her own calf properly (usually with a kick to the head or two and a steely 'get the hell outta there!' glare ) then the calf will go on sucking indefinitely and I've witnessed the undignified sight of near fully grown heifers still stooping down to squelch at away momma's teats when this has happened.

And Momma always has a silly look of pure pleasure on her face...which is why this youtube clip creeps me out slightly.

Not that women are cows! :eek: Not that women are cows! :eek:

I'm not saying that! :eek:

I better get out of here now. :D


...God,you're a funny man today,and on withdrawals...to good.That look of pure pleasure that the cow experiences,is similar to humans clearing their bowels after a big dump,Poor cow's probably lugging around 10-20 litres in
that udder...:D

[scatlond]

Aesthetically displeasing.:(

[pri01]

I only managed to breast feed one of my kids and after 6 weeks I had to give it up as a result of going back to work. I was absolutely devastated, as I wanted to carry on. So in a sense, I can see why some mothers want to continue for longer than is needed. My baby started to use the feeding ritual as a source of comfort a dummy/soother, and the result was a lot of pain on my part. So, I can see why some children may manipulate the mother into providing them with comfort for longer than is necessary. It's such a complex issue.

[limelady]

Oh gawd! Ive never heard that before....this thread gets grosser nd grosser! :eek:

I still dont understand though, she cant have been having any milk come through, as Ive said, they go hard! couldnt she have got a bloke to suck on her nipples/ (or a woman if shes that way inclined)

Dunno beldazar.....her baby (at the time) was the same age as my youngest, and he was almost twice the size, so he was obviously getting plenty of milk! :p

I remember reading somewhere once that some women transfer all their emotions onto their babies if their husbands are the emotionally distant types and there is no closeness. So perhaps if a relationship is not very physically satisfying to a woman (if you get my drift), due to a lack of closeness in the relationship, maybe her baby fulfills the role the husband is not?

I've even wondered if this sort of thing has come about since society has gone out of its way to sexualise breasts rather than primarily think of them as 'baby feeders'? Maybe some women don't feel nurtured themselves (emotionally) and therefore struggle to distinguish between the nurturing energy of breast-feeding and and nurturing energy of sexuality with somebody they feel close to?

Who would know, but tbh I do find it all a bit disturbing and I'm willing to admit it may be my own societal programming that makes me feel this way.

[drhemp]

Our first child was breastfed until the age of three and a bit, which I think is quite a long time. There was no way my partner was every going to breastfeed our second child for 3 years, so she stopped at around 7 or 8 months.

We did experience some problems with our daughter's airways being clogged up with congestion, which I believe were in part caused by the cow's formula milk that we initially used and I can say the problem noticeably improved when we switched to a goats milk formula, which I think is much better, though it's very expensive.

We're the only creatures that drink other animals' milk, that said, I'm addicted to milky things; I try to avoid cows milk and go for goat's milk. I hate black coffee, anyway coffee's bad for you too, isn't everything?

Breastfeeding at 8 years old, that's just wrong! The poor woman's nipples, they must be in tatters.

I remember my Dad telling me how is mother back in the 40s breastfed his brother til he was quite old, but this was more because they were so poor back in those days and was the cheapest way to feed the family.

[amethyst]

Breastfeeding should feel good or we women wouldn't do it ;) (except when they develope teeth and are teething)

But by letting the child breast feed up to age 8, you are not allowing them to mature properly or be weaned. It seems very odd to me to let them go that long. 8 yrs. old is much too old IMO.

[candygirl]

I am a member of Baby Millk Action group and it would be better if children in third world countries were breastfed for as long as possiable because breast milk is natures vaccine.
A child that is breastfeeding called 'late feeding' up to age 10 well they will natrally search out food as well as breast milk for nourishment meaning they will eat food and drink other things.
Breastfeeding is a pain reliever so no need for medication i.e paracetomol. Not only that it's a brain food the ultimate it enhances brain growth and development.
In the bible it is mentioned and the children being nursed upto age 12.
Formula milk companies are just as bad as the drug, oil companies and have been brainwashing for genarations. We have all been conditioned and now breasts are sexual not life giving.
Mothers in 3rd world countries can't afford formula and don't have clean water so babies are diying because they want to be like westerners.
Formula milk companies advertise in the third world Baby Milk Action have managed to stop advertising in the UK at least and formula milk is only advertised for older children not newborn and you may notice information at the bottom of the advert how formula is not meant to replace breastfeeding..
Not intending to sound like a fanatic i've read the posts and i had to pass on information as i would David's work.
Babies are not cows they are humans and should have human milk.
In sweden they only use human milk they have milk banks for mothers who cannot breastfeed why are there not more milk banks in this country?
CG:)

[amethyst]

I am a member of Baby Millk Action group and it would be better if children in third world countries were breastfed for as long as possiable because breast milk is natures vaccine.
A child that is breastfeeding called 'late feeding' up to age 10 well they will natrally search out food as well as breast milk for nourishment meaning they will eat food and drink other things.
Breastfeeding is a pain reliever so no need for medication i.e paracetomol. Not only that it's a brain food the ultimate it enhances brain growth and development.
In the bible it is mentioned and the children being nursed upto age 12.
Formula milk companies are just as bad as the drug, oil companies and have been brainwashing for genarations. We have all been conditioned and now breasts are sexual not life giving.
Mothers in 3rd world countries can't afford formula and don't have clean water so babies are diying because they want to be like westerners.
Formula milk companies advertise in the third world Baby Milk Action have managed to stop advertising in the UK at least and formula milk is only advertised for older children not newborn and you may notice information at the bottom of the advert how formula is not meant to replace breastfeeding..
Not intending to sound like a fanatic i've read the posts and i had to pass on information as i would David's work.
Babies are not cows they are humans and should have human milk.
In sweden they only use human milk they have milk banks for mothers who cannot breastfeed why are there not more milk banks in this country?
CG:)

I've read about breastfeeding being a pain reliever. For mother and child. Certain (healthy) chemicals are released when you breast feed.

In the bible it is mentioned and the children being nursed upto age 12.

I've never read that. That seems very old...much too old actually.

Breast milk is definitely better for baby than formula. But if a woman can't breastfeed, they have to go to alternative sources. They used to have wet nurses for that very problem, but it's not in use as much in western countries, which is a shame.

[beldazar]

Dunno beldazar.....her baby (at the time) was the same age as my youngest, and he was almost twice the size, so he was obviously getting plenty of milk! :p

I remember reading somewhere once that some women transfer all their emotions onto their babies if their husbands are the emotionally distant types and there is no closeness. So perhaps if a relationship is not very physically satisfying to a woman (if you get my drift), due to a lack of closeness in the relationship, maybe her baby fulfills the role the husband is not?

I've even wondered if this sort of thing has come about since society has gone out of its way to sexualise breasts rather than primarily think of them as 'baby feeders'? Maybe some women don't feel nurtured themselves (emotionally) and therefore struggle to distinguish between the nurturing energy of breast-feeding and and nurturing energy of sexuality with somebody they feel close to?

Who would know, but tbh I do find it all a bit disturbing and I'm willing to admit it may be my own societal programming that makes me feel this way.

I thought about this last night when I came off here, if it wasnt for your friend I would feel very suspicious of it. Is your friend highly sexed? I dont know of any woman who can orgasm just by having her nipples sucked although I know that it is said some women can orgasm by just thinking of sex. A friend of mine in her 60's used to get wet dreams (:eek::D)

I read your link and yes, I remember reading up on the oxytocin thinggy but its a completely different feeling, certainly not pleasurable, more like a very mild period pain and feeling as if there is something pulling up the uterus from inside. There is of course the weird feeling of the tingling just before the milk comes out, its neither pleasurable nor unpleasant. Some people may like it but the first thought is usually 'I hope my breast pad is in right', lol
Plus the desire for sex usually depletes after the birth until the child is about a year old or stops breastfeeding...
I expressed a couple of times and would have to stimulate the flow myself (yes, I know, too much information, my shoe size is 6 by the way.....) and if nipples go hard then you CANNOT express milk! The alveola (sp) has to swell and not pucker up! It looks as if your friend was using the baby for her own sexual gratification!!!

I dont trust the poll on that link either, after all, if a woman did get aroused, do you think she would admit it? Its like paedophilia....
Unfortunately I certainly wouldnt know enough women to enquire more about this, not that I would want to...

For a long time now I have thought that we have been put off breastfeeding for nefarious reasons.......stop mums antibodies getting through to the baby, rise in childhood diseases......voila! VACCINATIONS!
:mad:

[beldazar]

I am a member of Baby Millk Action group and it would be better if children in third world countries were breastfed for as long as possiable because breast milk is natures vaccine.
A child that is breastfeeding called 'late feeding' up to age 10 well they will natrally search out food as well as breast milk for nourishment meaning they will eat food and drink other things.
Breastfeeding is a pain reliever so no need for medication i.e paracetomol. Not only that it's a brain food the ultimate it enhances brain growth and development.
In the bible it is mentioned and the children being nursed upto age 12.
Formula milk companies are just as bad as the drug, oil companies and have been brainwashing for genarations. We have all been conditioned and now breasts are sexual not life giving.
Mothers in 3rd world countries can't afford formula and don't have clean water so babies are diying because they want to be like westerners.
Formula milk companies advertise in the third world Baby Milk Action have managed to stop advertising in the UK at least and formula milk is only advertised for older children not newborn and you may notice information at the bottom of the advert how formula is not meant to replace breastfeeding..
Not intending to sound like a fanatic i've read the posts and i had to pass on information as i would David's work.
Babies are not cows they are humans and should have human milk.
In sweden they only use human milk they have milk banks for mothers who cannot breastfeed why are there not more milk banks in this country?
CG:)

Great post, thankyou! This thread shows how well the turn away from breastfeeding has worked, see the reactions?

[size_of_light]

I dont know of any woman who can orgasm just by having her nipples sucked

Come 'ere! ;)

:p

[gilly]

I breastfed my daughter till her teeth started cutting though (I mean cutting through ther gums btw). As a newborn, I had to be really careful, because she'd such a good appetite that she'd latch on anywhere she could before I was ready, & be sucking my blood with great gusto.

I found it fairly painful, and not remotely erotic. I can orgasm by willing myself to btw.

My little boy would never latch on properly, so I had to give him bottles, but to be honest, the midwives were dead against bottle-feeding.

How could anyone bear a child with teeth chomping at them? Even without teeth, the 1st few chugs felt like it was tearing my nipple off!

[blondina1]

IMO, breastfeeding is for giving babies a good start in life. When they are capable of eating and drinking on their own, then (for me at least) it was 'all over red rover'!

I agree with Lookie....the thought of it beyond toddler age makes me somewhat queasy also...

But each to their own. :)


I completley agree.

[beldazar]

Come 'ere! ;)

:p


lol :D

[kiwimaj]

WRONG WRONG WRONG...

The selfish woman.... and I can't even be bothered to read the story...


:D

[candygirl]

Great post, thankyou! This thread shows how well the turn away from breastfeeding has worked, see the reactions?
The questions we should all be asking ourselves is: "why break the band between baby and mother?" why activly encourage formula milk for babies and children when breastmilk enhances brain growth in humans is this the ultimate dumbing down of society?.
When my two were ill and yes breastfed babies do get illness's i as informed that my body would pass the antibodies to baby no need for vaccinations.

Another question to ask ourselves is what better way to mass vaccinate the population by stopping the best vaccination to the human race mother natures vaccination by coming up with a alternative that cannot prevent disease.

Has anybody noticed the rise in post natal deppression? Is there a link to that and mothers not breastfeeding.
A study also has shown that a village in Italy where there is a convent well nearly all or most of the nuns got breastcancer or cervical cancer the village women did not because they all breastfed. Just some food for thought lol.

I think the actual sicence behind feeding our babies and the effects on mother and child have been totally squashed down we get smatterings of the benifits of breastfeeding for baby but what about the mother?
By the way did you know you do not have to give birth in order to breastfeed? That's right you can if you have never even had a baby and one can breastfeed an adopted baby. The oldest wet nurse was 78! she was in France.
Children will loose the sucking reflex when the body is ready and child will automaticly stop nursing when mother nature dictates so to speak.

The mention of cows still trying it on well that could be just fluke!.
The mention of teeth well the teeth shouldn't even be touching the nipple if child/baby is latched on properly.
Yes there is no sexual arousal for mother what she does get is a release of hormones to relax her about the same ones that she would get when in a relaxed mediative state they are supposed to relax her to release the best milk for baby the best time and yes there is a best time to nurse that is between the hours of 11pm to 6am i suppose that's mother natures way of allowing baby to grow and mother to get relaxed.

BTW great way to loose weight after childbirth!
People please don't take everything at face value try to see the bigger picture and read between the lines before jumping to uninformed opinions.
Get the knowledge and understanding.
The formula milk industry is massive and one main supplier is Nestle anbody know much about them? they are massive from baby food to formula milk, coffee, cleaning products dog food/cat food choclates the list goes on there is a Nestle boycott going on as we speak and it's hurting them if you go to baby milk action they have a list of what is being boycotted.
http://www.babymilkaction.org/pages/boycott.html

Well this is my opinion and i am not forcing it on anyone just want to inform.
CG:)

[candygirl]

Sorry here is an updated web address for Baby Milk Action group http://www.babymilkaction.org/
CG

[tyler]

I don't know if this has been mentioned already but what if they were two little boys breast feeding at eight years old?

[candygirl]

I don't know if this has been mentioned already but what if they were two little boys breast feeding at eight years old?
That is the problem Breasts have been made sexual by the big corporations.
So what if boys or girls breastfeed?. At least they are getting brain food.
If there were milk banks or the mother expressed her milk at least child is getting benefits so children as old as 8 or 12 could still consume the breastmilk without feeding from the mother.
Do you think this story was like a plant? Why would a mother subject herself to media attention on this subject? poor children.

You don't hear or see such a fuss when a child as late as 15 is still sucking on a dummy or a bottle do you? I have seen this.
It seems that's ok what about children sucking on the thumb? how old should they be when they should stop?. Question is why are they? could it be because they need to because they were stopped to early for them and the natrual process was stopped?.
There is a natrual process for everything mother nature does have all the answers we are conditioned to ignore them.
Ask yourselves why?.

CG:)

[candygirl]

BTW One thing i did not mention is the suckiling of a newborn is totally diffrent to an older child the mothers body produces diffrent milk for diffrent ages so if she has a newborn and an older child both will get diffrent milk.
The amount of milk an older child is a lot more per feed then newborn.

Also if the baby is feeding but wants a drink not a meal the mothers body will produce that if baby is in pain she produces the pain killing remedy and if baby is coming down with something dadah she produces antibodies!. (this is also the case the older the child).

The human body is a wonderful machine!
The best of the best even we humans really cannot replicate it to it's full extent.

Human milk can also be used for anyboody who is say suffering from deppression and b4 you freak i mean expressd milk and used in cooking or just drinking it.

I am not suggesting women be used as cows to supply not at all there must be a good way of supplying this.
Sweden does it they have got it right with the milk banks.
CG:)

[candygirl]

I do apologise i didn't reliase the link was a programme first shown on C4 so no mother was not a plant it was a programme.

Programme did not give out all the facts though pity.
They conveinetly miss out benefits to mother as well as child/baby.

CG:)

[amethyst]

That is the problem Breasts have been made sexual by the big corporations.
So what if boys or girls breastfeed?. At least they are getting brain food.
If there were milk banks or the mother expressed her milk at least child is getting benefits so children as old as 8 or 12 could still consume the breastmilk without feeding from the mother.
Do you think this story was like a plant? Why would a mother subject herself to media attention on this subject? poor children.

You don't hear or see such a fuss when a child as late as 15 is still sucking on a dummy or a bottle do you? I have seen this.
It seems that's ok what about children sucking on the thumb? how old should they be when they should stop?. Question is why are they? could it be because they need to because they were stopped to early for them and the natrual process was stopped?.
There is a natrual process for everything mother nature does have all the answers we are conditioned to ignore them.
Ask yourselves why?.

CG:)

Breasts haven't been made sexual by big corporations...breasts are sexual AND are also lifegiving for your child. They are both.

Madison avenue has simply picked up on this and promoted it to the extreme.

But let's be honest. Because we are sexual beings, it's not a healthy thing to promote breastfeeding at say 8, 9, 10 yrs. old and up. Because children are aware at that age, and it is inappropiate to breastfeed for so long of a time.

Any woman who understands her anatomy will tell you that her breasts are one of her erogenous zones and pleasure centers.

Yet, they are also life sustaining for your children. This was the way it was intended to be. Just not at older ages.

[candygirl]

Breasts haven't been made sexual by big corporations...breasts are sexual AND are also lifegiving for your child. They are both.

Madison avenue has simply picked up on this and promoted it to the extreme.

But let's be honest. Because we are sexual beings, it's not a healthy thing to promote breastfeeding at say 8, 9, 10 yrs. old and up. Because children are aware at that age, and it is inappropiate to breastfeed for so long of a time.

Any woman who understands her anatomy will tell you that her breasts are one of her erogenous zones and pleasure centers.

Yet, they are also life sustaining for your children. This was the way it was intended to be. Just not at older ages.

Children are being sexulised earlier and earlier why would a supermarket have a pole for pole dancing for children what's all that about? High heels for babies i think i saw that by i think walmart wasn't it?.
The children on the programme didn't look like they thought it was sexual.
Aren't we all being given a diffrent perception on sexuality all the time.

Breasts may be an erogonous zone during a sexual act but the human brain does a wonderful thing to the mother when nursing sex is the furthest thing from her mind the baby/child only thinks about what's going in to the mouth.The mothers instinct kicks is and all she wants to do is protect.

I am no scientist but we all do underestimate the human body and what all those hormones and chemicals are supposed to do.

Sexualising breasts has been going on for years and i blame page 3 in newspapers! lol

if you look at victorian pornography breasts were really not that important unlike today men used to be blown over when they saw an ankle!. In the middle east way back in sinbads day the most sexual part of the female body was the belly button hence belly dancing the stomach was far more appealing.

Children are being manipulated/brainwashed by the agenda and they are being subjected to sexual images involving breasts from very early on we have katie price there flaunting herself with her breasts and all little girls want is to be like her.

what about the sublimamal advertising on every box of cereal i think we all have reevaluate our perceptions of sexuality in this modern western society not to mention Disney that are just as bad as everything else.

CG:)

[amethyst]

Children are being sexulised earlier and earlier why would a supermarket have a pole for pole dancing for children what's all that about? High heels for babies i think i saw that by i think walmart wasn't it?.
The children on the programme didn't look like they thought it was sexual.
Aren't we all being given a diffrent perception on sexuality all the time.

Breasts may be an erogonous zone during a sexual act but the human brain does a wonderful thing to the mother when nursing sex is the furthest thing from her mind the baby/child only thinks about what's going in to the mouth.The mothers instinct kicks is and all she wants to do is protect.

I am no scientist but we all do underestimate the human body and what all those hormones and chemicals are supposed to do.

Sexualising breasts has been going on for years and i blame page 3 in newspapers! lol

if you look at victorian pornography breasts were really not that important unlike today men used to be blown over when they saw an ankle!. In the middle east way back in sinbads day the most sexual part of the female body was the belly button hence belly dancing the stomach was far more appealing.

Children are being manipulated/brainwashed by the agenda and they are being subjected to sexual images involving breasts from very early on we have katie price there flaunting herself with her breasts and all little girls want is to be like her.

what about the sublimamal advertising on every box of cereal i think we all have reevaluate our perceptions of sexuality in this modern western society not to mention Disney that are just as bad as everything else.

CG:)

I agree with you that they are pushing sexuality on children at younger and younger ages, which is not healthy IMO, but that wasn't my point.

Because we are sexual beings, it's not good to breast feed past a certain age, once the child comes to a certain awareness. The problem the woman on the video had, was not saying "no" to her child. There was something strange about her atitude IMO.

Breasts may be an erogonous zone during a sexual act but the human brain does a wonderful thing to the mother when nursing sex is the furthest thing from her mind the baby/child only thinks about what's going in to the mouth.The mothers instinct kicks is and all she wants to do is protect.

Well, you are not thinking about sex when you breast feed.

But the truth is, it feels good to breast feed. At least it did for me. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You are bonding with your child and that is a healthy thing. But NOT when the child is older because that is crossing a line a parent should not cross with their child.

Sexualising breasts has been going on for years and i blame page 3 in newspapers! lol

Sexualizing of breasts have been going on for years because breasts are sexual. I think you are meaning the "over-emphasizing" of all things sexual is the problem. And if that is the case, I agree with you.
But we can't deny that we are sexual beings....as well as spiritual and intellectual beings.

[j_shell]

This is interesting, I have a close mate who was breast fed until he was 6. i remember one situation in particular, we at the hair dressers waiting for his mum to get her hair done and take us to the shops, he was obviously feeling a bit peckish so he walked straight up to his mother and said "suck mummy, suck" then dissapeared under the cloak. after a few minutes he popped his head out, and with a mouth full of stretched old milky boob said, "finished mum" she replied "good, me too" then off to the shops we went.

I will never forget that, probably one of my funniest childhood memories.

And it is interesting, to this day i have never met more of a gentleman than my mate, he would be the definition of a ladies man not the best looking guy but he is beating them off with a stick, just has a knack with the girls. I've always wondered if his childhood had something to do with it.

[beldazar]

Again, thankyou for your input Candygirl, I too have often thought that breast cancer may be common because of the fact they arent often used after childbirth.


Amethyst, I understand what you say about an 8 year old boy hanging off your tits, because of my 'conditioning' I cant say I would like it either but if you had already been feeding him throughout his life it wouldnt seem so gross because I dont know about you as 10 years can fly by before your very eyes , you turn around onr day and your little boy is all grown up!


This subject is just another prime example of how much of whats left of our 'humanity' has been stripped away,
Must wear make-up, must shower twice a day, must shave your legs, must wear designer clothes, must use deodorant, must give babies formula.....need I go on? Its too depressing :(

[amethyst]

Again, thankyou for your input Candygirl, I too have often thought that breast cancer may be common because of the fact they arent often used after childbirth.


Amethyst, I understand what you say about an 8 year old boy hanging off your tits, because of my 'conditioning' I cant say I would like it either but if you had already been feeding him throughout his life it wouldnt seem so gross because I dont know about you as 10 years can fly by before your very eyes , you turn around onr day and your little boy is all grown up!


This subject is just another prime example of how much of whats left of our 'humanity' has been stripped away,
Must wear make-up, must shower twice a day, must shave your legs, must wear designer clothes, must use deodorant, must give babies formula.....need I go on? Its too depressing :(

I think we need to get away from this idea that sexuality is gross and breastfeeding is unnatural.

They are not. Sexuality and breastfeeding your child are both natural and good.

But at a certain age (I keep repeating here) there is a certain awareness from the child that, because they are sexual beings, they need to be weaned off mom's breast.....at a certain point. Both for child and for mom.

Mom needs to know when to say no. Someone else said it, a mother cow knows when to wean her baby. At a certain age of (awareness), it isn't appropriate to breastfeed your child.

Now if you mate wants to play with your breasts, that is an entirely different story. :p You are two consenting adults, not children.

lol, I'm starting to sound more and more like Dr. Ruth.

[beldazar]

Yes you are right Amethyst and as Candygirl has stated, children are sexualised far too early :(

My aerial is now pulled, the final straw? Condom adverts aimed at children! :mad:

[candygirl]

Amethyest yes i agree we are sexual spritual beings one thing is there is a fine line yes but if we all go back to basiscs i think we should letnature take it's course what one person thinks is diffrent to another and in the third world where there is a lack of clean fresh water money food and disease surly the longer women do breastfeed older children there is a better chance of survival.
Breastfeeding well it's totally sterile as well. Yes there is the aids epedemic jury is still out on can aids be passed through breastmilk.

Surly a drive for mother natures answer to vaccines and virtually everything else would be the answer for 3rd world countries well some of the problems at least. We are diverted and made to think there is something wrong with feeding children till quite old we must ask ourselves why?.
What if they encoureged milk banks in the 3rd world the formula milk campanies go racing over to disasters to countries where breastfeeding is predominat therefore actually killing babies.

Yes we are all totally controlled brainwashed and can be deppressing you are right beldazler.
CG

[amethyst]

Amethyest yes i agree we are sexual spritual beings one thing is there is a fine line yes but if we all go back to basiscs i think we should letnature take it's course what one person thinks is diffrent to another and in the third world where there is a lack of clean fresh water money food and disease surly the longer women do breastfeed older children there is a better chance of survival.
Breastfeeding well it's totally sterile as well. Yes there is the aids epedemic jury is still out on can aids be passed through breastmilk.

Surly a drive for mother natures answer to vaccines and virtually everything else would be the answer for 3rd world countries well some of the problems at least. We are diverted and made to think there is something wrong with feeding children till quite old we must ask ourselves why?.
What if they encoureged milk banks in the 3rd world the formula milk campanies go racing over to disasters to countries where breastfeeding is predominat therefore actually killing babies.

Yes we are all totally controlled brainwashed and can be deppressing you are right beldazler.
CG

But can the mother continue to produce milk up to say, age eight? If they are nursing other small children they would have milk, but if not, that well is going to run dry earlier on.

[candygirl]

But can the mother continue to produce milk up to say, age eight? If they are nursing other small children they would have milk, but if not, that well is going to run dry earlier on.
Well actually the more you feed the more you make it's just an endless supply the beuty of the human body!.
As long as mother has something to keep her hydrated body will supply.
again the more you express the more you make.

CG:)

[rhydra]

Why should the women get all the fun?

http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/miscarticles/milkmen.html

I first became interested in male lactation in 1978 after reading Dana Raphael's book, The Tender Gift: Breastfeeding. Although Raphael only dealt with the subject briefly, she did say that men can and have produced milk after stimulating their nipples.

Gross enough? There's more!

It is possible, and has been observed in animals and humans. In 1992, 18 Dayak fruit bats were captured from a rainforest in the Krau Game Reserve, Pahang, Malaysia. Of the 10 mature males captured, each had functional mammary glands from which small amounts of milk were expressed. A breast is a breast. Male lactation is physiologically possible and, according to Dr. Robert Greenblatt, production in males can be stimulated by letting a baby suckle for several weeks. Indeed some human males secrete milk at birth and at puberty.Historically, male lactation was noted by the German explorer Alexander Freiherr von Humboldt prior to 1859, who wrote of a 32-year-old man who breastfed his child for five months. It was also observed in a 55-year-old Baltimore man who had been the wetnurse of the children of his mistress.

My interest in male lactation was piqued again when I recently received the following letter from a friend of mine.
I knew these two wonderful guys, very dear friends of mine for years. A mutual acquaintance of ours was pregnant, unplanned, and did not want to do the whole "adoption thing" so when the guys approached her about taking the baby, they just proceeded as if it had been a planned surrogate pregnancy. The guys were adamant that the baby should get breastmilk. So when she was in her 7th month we bought a really good quality breastpump and Ian started pumping, every 2 hours during the day and once during the night. He was wonderful about it! He used an SNS (supplimental nursing system) after she was born, with donated milk from several friends who were nursing. He was making milk but not a full supply. By the time the baby was 12 weeks old he was making a full milk supply! He stayed at home with the baby (he was a massage therapist) and nursed her exclusively until she was 8 months old!! I don't think many people outside their intimate circle knew about it, I'm sure folks would have had a fit if they'd known...but I thought it was wonderful!

:D

[candygirl]

Now i have never heard of that rhydra wow that really does put another slant on things!

Men should share the breastfeeding hoorah!.

Thanks for the link very intresting.

Maybe men could then donate to milkbanks hoorah.

CG:)

[rhydra]

:D

[biblegirl]

well...I try to be openminded about stuff like this, and encouraging what is natural and healthy, but the girls groping their mom when she is getting dressed is just plain WRONG!

probably an indication that the breastfeeding for this family should have stopped a long time ago...

[deadskinball]

Has anyone in this thread made a point about the mental health, or lack of, of the mother?

If there has been such ,then all i'll say is that she is an obnoxious selfish woman. I bet she felt like a real woman when she first started breast feeding and now, just a junkie, she cannot loose that feeling of empowerment that she gets.

It is most probably the case and I think, like alot of other people think, that this is an issue concerning the mother and not an issue of how healthy it is, or waht ever positives arise from that, for there are positives of breast feeding when a child needs a high fat, fat nutrient food to grow quickly.

Until the age of teeth coming out, then breast feeding should slowly be replaced by solids.

That woman in the video is not right in the head.