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on the road
29-03-2009, 02:46 PM
watched porn and billed me and you !?

WTF!?

and before anyone starts with 'oh they are gunna pay it back' bullshit dont bother, actions speak louder than words and they are taking the piss in large doses.not just with this latest shocker but all the rest of her shite.

this woman is skating on thin ice and this latest clanger should be enough to crack it good and proper.

get this bitch sacked !!!!!!!

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7970731.stm

pipsicle
29-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Unbelievable.

gilly
29-03-2009, 02:52 PM
What a frickin nerve. Is this being made public knowledge to further provoke people though?

pipsicle
29-03-2009, 02:53 PM
I'm sure someone somewhere is playing a game with it. But even so...

redman
29-03-2009, 02:55 PM
Sack the fucking lot.



But also be very weary of all the bad publicity about bankers and politicians etc, the media is well and truly trying to stir up hatred to these cunts but when ever the media is pushing for something then it usually means that their is agenda behind it and once we react to their bull shit it usually means that we end up coming worse off in the long run.


But yeah, these cunts are taking the piss big time and I would think that in normal circumstances. But considering the country is going down the shit pan, then it sort of grates on ya just that bit more.

on the road
29-03-2009, 02:56 PM
What a frickin nerve. Is this being made public knowledge to further provoke people though?

everythings for a reason ,yes they are trying to wind us up and yes its working , for me anyway.

on the road
29-03-2009, 02:58 PM
latest link on the bent twat!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7970731.stm

this stinks of fish !!!! :)

pinkgeranium
29-03-2009, 03:03 PM
New labour scum!

keithm
29-03-2009, 03:07 PM
do these thieving,corrupt MPs actually pay for anything.

drhemp
29-03-2009, 03:10 PM
How I've enjoyed watching those New Labour scumbags squirm on TV news today. We all know they are totally corrupt, but it's good when they are caught out.

Granted, I can understand why Smith's husband might want to watch porn rather than do the business with his hideous wife, but to charge the tax payer for this is outrageous.

I was pleased to learn the Smith Bitch is almost certainly going to lose her seat in Parliament next year, I just hope she doesn't make any more progress in her attempts to turn Britain into a Police State in that time.

Of course she should resign now, but we know she wont do that as there is not a single person in the Government who has a gram of integrity.

tyler
29-03-2009, 03:13 PM
I see her husband is "employed" as her parliamentary aide. That's another £20,000 a year into her pocket then!

drhemp
29-03-2009, 03:23 PM
When they are not abusing our human rights, invading our personal privacy and destroying the very fabric of this country, they certainly know how to board the gravy train and put theirs noses in the troughs helping themselves to tax payers money.

To think not only do we have to put up with these monsters, we also have to fund them!

the itinerant shrubber
29-03-2009, 03:24 PM
If they sack her,she'll just be replaced with someone just as bad.
Stupid,unquestioning and greedy people get into government by design,not by accident. The NWO need people like that in parliement. Can you imagine what would happen if people of principle got in!

mightiswrong
29-03-2009, 03:33 PM
I wouldn't vote for any candidate that does not have their own food garden. People who live in an artificial world and eat rubbish, commute long distances and are out for their own greed can not be trusted to make wholesome decisions. The food garden voting policy is the only way that one can know someone has real values.

halloween jack
29-03-2009, 03:44 PM
I don't blame him. Married to somebody like her you'd need all the porn you could get.

rhydra
29-03-2009, 04:14 PM
It's nothing more than looting, it's a government of looters, nowt better than Mugabe's inner circle on the payroll putting their families on the payroll. New Labour MPs and Ministers are not serving the country, they are getting what they can out of the country while they can, to them a place in the Commons isn't a calling to serve the people, it is a means to become part of the millionaire set, the jet-set.

Lampposts are not just there to light up the footpath at night you know.

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 04:25 PM
Fuck sake Jacqui and her better half look like twins, except for the beard:D

I am sure she will get out her handcuffs and whip him l like a proper knotty boy! lol

tyler
29-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Yeah, we need to start a new party....."The Lampost Solution"

Have one of these fuckers dangling in every High Street in the land.

(Actually, I like this. The phrase could catch on. How do we deal with politicians? Why, the Lampost Solution of course!)

arten
29-03-2009, 04:27 PM
The real indictment is with our political system. We have a 'Rogue Prime Minister' doubling up on each throw of the dice in the hope of keeping his job while Parliament are either unable or unwilling to do something about it. Either way, the incumbents of Parliament have fallen short. In turn that makes us, the electorate, a collective failure for putting them there. In the last election we did not have much choice. In the next election we do. Vote for the status quo or choose NOTA.

http://apps.facebook.com/causes/241513/18554442?m=24fcdb20

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Lampposts are not just there to light up the footpath at night you know.

they are for hanging crooked polititions and for dogs to piss on.

rhydra
29-03-2009, 04:38 PM
The ballot box or the lamppost, the lamppost wins every time! :D

diggers_1
29-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Well did you see his wife who can blame him. but his should of paid on his own credit card.

dragond
29-03-2009, 05:14 PM
Im not suprised by any of these stories and to be honest its just confirming what most of us knew for a long time..Its funny how in the bbc report there isnt a single negative comment about the scavangers....? It seems she's doing a pretty good job to them :confused: (our tv licence money at work) Its clear that these MPricks dont really pay for anything these days and since they make the phoney laws, they know they are well above it.. This bitch aint the only one and guess what she's not gonna be the last.. and the most funny thing is nobody is doing nothing! THE SYSTEM is currupt from the foundation and up! simple as that.. but we are in a transition period and we might still have a chance..!

D

arten
29-03-2009, 05:52 PM
They are not making Laws they are passing Statutes and they can only enforce them on you if you are stupid enough to agree to them.

wchen99
29-03-2009, 06:00 PM
this sort of story just distracts people from Jacquie Smiths failings in the job and her govts ineptitude.

small potatoes.

lynfowars
29-03-2009, 06:11 PM
They want us nice and angry for the G20 protests.

They say we will be violent. So there.

This is so transparent it is insulting.

pinkgrapefruit
29-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Fuck sake Jacqui and her better half look like twins, except for the beard:Dl

Only because she shaved this morning...:D

pipsicle
29-03-2009, 07:22 PM
I don't blame him. Married to somebody like her you'd need all the porn you could get.

I've heard she's a very nice person from people who know her.

Does she really deserve your abuse because of what her husband has been getting up to?

pipsicle
29-03-2009, 07:23 PM
They want us nice and angry for the G20 protests.

They say we will be violent. So there.

This is so transparent it is insulting.

Interesting idea... but why?

dragond
29-03-2009, 07:38 PM
They are not making Laws they are passing Statutes and they can only enforce them on you if you are stupid enough to agree to them.

I know they make statutes but for the untrained mind they are LAWS.. and i also know where ur coming from but not everybody sees it that way, so for the general public it is LAWS..

D

wilkspaul
29-03-2009, 07:46 PM
This just about sums up the contempt our politicians (and the members of their families who also manage to get their noses buried in the trough) have for us. Check out the nember of MP's who claim the TV licence as part of their expenses while still expecting the ordinary tax payer to pay it his or her self.

flip side
29-03-2009, 07:53 PM
I've heard she's a very nice person from people who know her.

Does she really deserve your abuse because of what her husband has been getting up to?

So you roll with people who know Jacqui Smith. Interesting. Such a lovely Lady our Jacqui with her Nazi idealism, top girl.

brainfreeze
29-03-2009, 07:58 PM
I just love when people are "hollier than thou" and their nearest and dearest fuck up as badly as Ms Smith's hubby just did.

Shame on him.

He should be warming that cold brittle bitch up! Not unleashing her on US!

brainstormer
29-03-2009, 07:59 PM
And he had to read that from a script? How sincere! :rolleyes:

pipsicle
29-03-2009, 07:59 PM
No... but I don't see why her husband watching porn should open her to mindless sexism like this:

Well did you see his wife who can blame him. but his should of paid on his own credit card.

gilly
29-03-2009, 08:03 PM
No... but I don't see why her husband watching porn should open her to mindless sexism like this:

It's because she's disliked very much indeed, by most members of this forum, due to her fascist ways, and the threat she poses of this country being subjected to martial law. She deserves all she gets imo, and much, much more. She's a cold, evil, heartless, thieving, deceitful horror.

drhemp
29-03-2009, 08:07 PM
I've heard she's a very nice person from people who know her.

Does she really deserve your abuse because of what her husband has been getting up to?

Yeah, apparently Hitler could be charming.

There are many reasons this bitch deserves our abuse, as well as the totally corrupt actions of her family claiming vast amounts of cash from the tax payer.

How about Smith's proclamation that she was 'disappointed' when the Law Lords told her she couldn't abuse people's human rights by keeping their DNA even if they had not been convicted of any crime. What kind of person is disappointed when told they can't abuse human rights?

What about her decision to ignore her experts and reclassify cannabis as a Class B drug?

How about the constant amendments to legislation allowing government departments to pry into our every move?

I could write a post a mile long as to why this revolting woman deserves to have abuse hurled at her from every corner of the land.

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 08:25 PM
What a frickin nerve. Is this being made public knowledge to further provoke people though?

I think they are telling us this to rub our faces in the fact these crooks can do what they like. True Communism:mad:

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 08:28 PM
I don't blame him. Married to somebody like her you'd need all the porn you could get.

I'm not so sure, she looks like a bike with a worn saddle:p:D

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Only because she shaved this morning...:D

She probably needs to use a hunting knife for a big job like that:D

arten
29-03-2009, 08:49 PM
I know they make statutes but for the untrained mind they are LAWS.. and i also know where ur coming from but not everybody sees it that way, so for the general public it is LAWS..

D

We need to wake the general public up this is just a Grand Game of Deception I have no time for Smith or her thieving husband. The crooks are at the top of society and they are jailing people by the thousands because they cannot manage on the measly government handouts given to them. And before anyone says give them a Job, in case you ain't noticed the governments both Tory and Labour have destroyed the job market in the UK and what jobs are out there are being taken by unskillied cheap labour from abroad.

pduffy4
29-03-2009, 08:50 PM
I've heard she's a very nice person from people who know her.

Does she really deserve your abuse because of what her husband has been getting up to?

She is a Zionst slut and a traitor. We are abusing her because of what she is helping to do to our country.

drhemp
29-03-2009, 09:07 PM
She is a Zionst slut and a traitor. We are abusing her because of what she is helping to do to our country.

Well said!

on the road
29-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Well said!

seconded !

arten
29-03-2009, 09:52 PM
They are all Traitors every government minster since 1971 is guilty of Treason I take this from a Freeman over at TPUC enjoy:

A personal view

It seems to me that everyone here is working on different things for different reasons, from the human beings wanting to be free, to the person just wanting off a speeding fine.

I found myself at this site after seeing Robert Menards videos and wanting to know more and what is being done in the UK on this subject, this lead me to what I think is the most important subject of all.
A CASE OF TREASON.

Do you really think you can be a free man whilst the traitorous government still has the power?
How many of you have been arrested fought and won your case and then billed them successfully?
you no longer pay taxes because you are a free man, fantastic. You will fight every fine and statue law placed against you for the rest of your life, Great.
However, all the while parliament is giving all powers over to the EU, do you think they will adhere to these laws you live by. No, you will be ruled under their laws,
Yours will be gone.

I think if we really want to be a free man, we need to put the traitorous persons where they belong, and stop the handover of our country to a foreign power. Only then can we work on our real laws and become free.
The freeman is working with words and their meanings to win their battles, others are working on other things like common purpose and exposing them for what they are. I take my hat off to Brian/Rob/John for what they are doing. However, I fear once we become a state of the EU none of what they have done will matter, as we will no longer have the rights and liberty we have right now. (That is becoming less and less)

We have real laws in our country right now that we can use, TREASON. This cannot be argued, it has been committed and the evidence is irrefutable. This looks to me like the only real chance we have at getting justice, some think they are above the law and we the people need to let them know they are not and we will not stand for it. Once we have these people in prison, we can let OUR representatives know our intent to live free, under the laws we have right now, not ones coming from foreign powers.

This New world order scares me, not for me but for my children and grandchildren, I don’t want to look into their little faces and tell them that daddy/granddaddy tried to stop the new government from putting a chip in there arm, but my efforts failed.
And when they ask me “how did you try stopping them daddy” I tell them I posted some messages on a forum protesting.

We have fought wars and lost untold amount of men and women fighting for our country, and we are just giving it away, once we are a state of the EU we have lost.

I am sorry if this has turned into a speech and I hope I have not offended anyone, we are running out of time.



Albert Burgess - 'A case of Treason' talk at the Stoke 'Lawful Rebellion' Conference

http://www.tpuc.org/node/560

dragond
29-03-2009, 09:53 PM
We need to wake the general public up this is just a Grand Game of Deception I have no time for Smith or her thieving husband. The crooks are at the top of society and they are jailing people by the thousands because they cannot manage on the measly government handouts given to them. And before anyone says give them a Job, in case you ain't noticed the governments both Tory and Labour have destroyed the job market in the UK and what jobs are out there are being taken by unskillied cheap labour from abroad.

i completely agree with u.. but general public seems like they dont wanna wake up.. reminds me of myself when my mum was waking me up for school when i was young, and my repeating words, ''5 more minutes pls mum''..

D

analog
29-03-2009, 11:56 PM
watched porn and billed me and you !?

WTF!?

and before anyone starts with 'oh they are gunna pay it back' bullshit dont bother, actions speak louder than words and they are taking the piss in large doses.not just with this latest shocker but all the rest of her shite.

this woman is skating on thin ice and this latest clanger should be enough to crack it good and proper.

get this bitch sacked !!!!!!!

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7970731.stm

Just shows the type of people who rule us.

tribe_of_david
30-03-2009, 12:47 AM
What a frickin nerve. Is this being made public knowledge to further provoke people though?

Before i even started reading through the posts i thought the same thing Gilly.

Over the last year or so these type of headlines are being released to infuriate us, the Fat cat bankers getting there bonuses when the banks are up the shit street, the british gas executives getting whopping bonuses just a day after it gets released in the press that the huge gas hikes are coming, this was last year. The ammount of times we are reading stories in the press that is angering people, When if we all did a David Icke solution when he mentions take a step back and look at the bigger picture ... and "realise why" these headlines are being released.

drhemp
30-03-2009, 12:47 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5999287.ece

The Times has learnt that MPs are expected to call in the police today over how a copy of an invoice from her Virgin TV and internet account, submitted to the Commons as part of an expenses claim, came to be published in a Sunday newspaper.

Unbelievable. Smith and her ilk are seeking to have every aspect of our lives under scrutiny and surveillance by the ever prying eyes of the totalitarian state Labour have been introducing, yet they want a police investigation into how utterly inappropriate uses of tax payers money by the Smith household came to be in the public domain.

whizzer
30-03-2009, 01:53 AM
seconded !

Thirded!:)

batou
30-03-2009, 02:19 AM
Take and take and take. There's not a thing that will happen about it, other than for show. The same things will keep happening. Us vs. them.
They make things happen but we sit around and spout hot air, then make them money.
It takes so much for people to act - People are lazy, scared and docile. Nothing will happen.

decode reality
30-03-2009, 07:20 AM
I wonder what items of real news the media are trying to bury?:rolleyes:

gilly
30-03-2009, 08:07 AM
I listened to the 6am news on the radio this morning, & they're pulling the same stunt as the other week, when they were talking about the 2nd home expenses.

One bod comes on highlighting the many things on top of the porn that she claims on her expenses...stuff like 2 x flat screen tele's, an antique fireplace, a stone sink, even a bath plug = controlled oposition = provocation to riot.

Then her superior comes on (didn't catch his name), saying "Poor Jacki, of course I won't be calling for her resignation, how embarrassing for the poor girl, you could cry for her - people aren't responsible for what their spouses do, the fuss is really because the films were saucy, MP's are entitled to get their TV package paid for because they need it as a communication means," etc etc (ignoring the fact that she signed the claim for him,).

He then says, (like last week) "the thing we'll be looking at is dropping the expense system and just give them the money in their wages, then they can make the decision over exactly how they spend it is up to them".

It was also mentioned that none of the other MP's have called for their head, because of course they all do this.

Now, if every single comment made was not deliberately intended to incite anger from the public, I'm a Dutchman.

fekdemasons
30-03-2009, 10:02 AM
I listened to the 6am news on the radio this morning, & they're pulling the same stunt as the other week, when they were talking about the 2nd home expenses.

One bod comes on highlighting the many things on top of the porn that she claims on her expenses...stuff like 2 x flat screen tele's, an antique fireplace, a stone sink, even a bath plug = controlled oposition = provocation to riot.

Then her superior comes on (didn't catch his name), saying "Poor Jacki, of course I won't be calling for her resignation, how embarrassing for the poor girl, you could cry for her - people aren't responsible for what their spouses do, the fuss is really because the films were saucy, MP's are entitled to get their TV package paid for because they need it as a communication means," etc etc (ignoring the fact that she signed the claim for him,).

He then says, (like last week) "the thing we'll be looking at is dropping the expense system and just give them the money in their wages, then they can make the decision over exactly how they spend it is up to them".

It was also mentioned that none of the other MP's have called for their head, because of course they all do this.

Now, if every single comment made was not deliberately intended to incite anger from the public, I'm a Dutchman.

SPOT ON GILLY,

It's like someone crapping on your doorstep , then they rub your nose in it.

I have to say though I'm getting a certain level of satisfaction watching that bitch squirm.

How can anyone take her seriously after this ?

bigred
30-03-2009, 10:46 AM
Take and take and take. There's not a thing that will happen about it, other than for show. The same things will keep happening. Us vs. them.
They make things happen but we sit around and spout hot air, then make them money.
It takes so much for people to act - People are lazy, scared and docile. Nothing will happen.

Your absolutely right. The only way things will change is if people take direct action and im not talking about marching through the streets peacefully, thats never acheived anything.

We need to bring the country to a standstill. Look what happened with the fuel blockades, people took notice then when the lazy bastards had to walk to work.

People will never wake up in time as long as the media is controlled. Something needs to happen so that the media has to take notice, or someone needs to take control of part of the media. There must be wealthy people out there who are against these corrupt MP's.

drhemp
30-03-2009, 11:55 AM
One bod comes on highlighting the many things on top of the porn that she claims on her expenses...stuff like 2 x flat screen tele's, an antique fireplace, a stone sink, even a bath plug = controlled oposition = provocation to riot.



Aside from her husband watching German piss porn with public money, I should like to ask why the hell the tax payer is paying for things like flat screen tvs, antique fireplaces and even bath plugs?

mightyoak
30-03-2009, 12:40 PM
Labour are the most vile, CORRUPTED party ever to have governed these British Isles....................... Sack the fookng lot off them Blair Brown Mendalshone along with other traitors Should be took thru traitors gate and hung in the tower. :D

whizzer
30-03-2009, 12:47 PM
Believe me they claim for everything from window cleaners to housemaids, we the tax payer are paying their bills first and foremost! then we struggle to pay our own bills with what little we have left...sucks!:mad:

drhemp
30-03-2009, 12:56 PM
Labour are the most vile, CORRUPTED party ever to have governed these British Isles....................... Sack the fookng lot off them Blair Brown Mendalshone along with other traitors Should be took thru traitors gate and hung in the tower. :D

Agreed and this is quite something when one considers the last lot who were in power.

jay303
30-03-2009, 01:15 PM
im sure they will be forgiven after a couple of hail marys

sardonicus
30-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Yes indeed, its so nice to see the disgusting fat, greedy Zionist-puppet bitch
squirming!! Ha Ha, the truth always gets out eventually, no matter how long
it takes. How can we the people possibly refer to the greedy, Neo-con
thieves and gangsters as 'the government' any longer? They are all self
serving and ALL are carefully selected by the evil 'pyramid perchers' to do
their dirty work.

IMO Home Secretary Jaqui Smith deserves everything she gets now the
truth is out lmao!!

Baseball bat and a day return to Redditch anyone...

steevo
30-03-2009, 01:29 PM
I think that the PTB have already decided that Jacqui Smith has to go because the population dislike her so much, and they need someone POPULAR to bring in the Orwellian State. So they will use stories like this to get rid of her. The PTB want us to believe that the porn thing is the reason that she is gone. Obviously I could be wrong about this. These are just my thoughts on it.

Also, this whole thing could have an agenda of "is YOUR husband secretly watching porn ?" I wonder how long it will be before they start talking about this ? Divide and rule.

oddblock
30-03-2009, 01:30 PM
http://quietscheentchen.redsplash.de/blog/uploads/wanker.jpg

sardonicus
30-03-2009, 01:49 PM
Agree. Jacqui Smith will just be replaced by some other nazi cunt put there to progress the 'pyramid perchers' agenda of enslavement. Whatever happens, she will still be an MP on a huge salary and claiming (fiddling) almost unlimited expenses. Think of shite like KEITH VAZ, DAVID BLUNKETT, PETER MANDELSON etc, outed, disgraced, and still there at the top of the corrupt political 'system' earning huge salaries and living like royalty.

THE DAMAGE SMITH WAS TOLD TO DO HAS BEEN DONE!!

24th January 2008 Jaqui Smith announced new sweeping powers for the police, including the proposal to hold "terrorist suspects" or those "linked to terrorism" for forty-two days without charge (Counter-Terrorism Bill 2008).

June 2008 she wrote a letter to the NUJ stating that police may restrict photography, going against a long-standing principle of not inhibiting the freedom to take photographs, stating that the police can "restrict or monitor photography in certain circumstances".

Jacqui Smith introduced a crime mapping scheme which will allow for citizens of England and Wales to access information about local crime information and how to combat crime.

Jacqui Smith, whilst being Home Secretary was pleased to announce that minor crime has dropped year on year under the Labour government, and continued to do so in 2008. Her officials, however, acknowledge that major crimes such as serious assault, rape and murder have increased year-on-year under the Labour government and are at their highest level since at least 1997.

Jacqui Smith passed the 42 day detention law plans in the House of Commons, despite heavy opposition. The House of Lords crushingly defeated the law, with Lords characterising it as "fatally flawed, ill thought through and unnecessary", stating that "it seeks to further erode [...] fundamental legal and civil rights".

She is presently in the process of pushing through legislation for UK ID cards, having announced that they are to become compulsory for foreign students and airport staff. She has announced that the cards will cost "£30" but the true figure is likely to be double this. She has claimed, despite evidence to the contrary, that the majority of the population is in favour of the scheme.

Whether she goes or not,

THE DAMAGE TO OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS HAS BEEN DONE...

kiwimaj
30-03-2009, 02:06 PM
I think that the PTB have already decided that Jacqui Smith has to go because the population dislike her so much, and they need someone POPULAR to bring in the Orwellian State. So they will use stories like this to get rid of her. The PTB want us to believe that the porn thing is the reason that she is gone. Obviously I could be wrong about this. These are just my thoughts on it.

Also, this whole thing could have an agenda of "is YOUR husband secretly watching porn ?" I wonder how long it will be before they start talking about this ? Divide and rule.

My thoughts, EXACTLY steevo...anything that comes out in the media that is against a particular polititian is done by the ones in charge against their little puppets. They want to make her vilified and hated in our eyes and to bring in someone that people will like, well they are certainly doing a grand job on that front !!

If poor old Jade hadn't been bumped off (IF in fact she is actually dead) by the pharma companies, media and those really in charge, she may have got the job, considering how popular she was....Jade for Home Secretary...you could just see it now..Jade makes a miraculous recovery, just in time to replace the hated and nasty Jaquie Smith....:D

kiwimaj
30-03-2009, 02:13 PM
Agree. Jacqui Smith will just be replaced by some other nazi cunt put there to progress the 'pyramid perchers' agenda of enslavement. Whatever happens, she will still be an MP on a huge salary and claiming (fiddling) almost unlimited expenses. Think of shite like KEITH VAZ, DAVID BLUNKETT, PETER MANDELSON etc, outed, disgraced, and still there at the top of the corrupt political 'system' earning huge salaries and living like royalty.

THE DAMAGE SMITH WAS TOLD TO DO HAS BEEN DONE!!

24th January 2008 Jaqui Smith announced new sweeping powers for the police, including the proposal to hold "terrorist suspects" or those "linked to terrorism" for forty-two days without charge (Counter-Terrorism Bill 2008).

June 2008 she wrote a letter to the NUJ stating that police may restrict photography, going against a long-standing principle of not inhibiting the freedom to take photographs, stating that the police can "restrict or monitor photography in certain circumstances".

Jacqui Smith introduced a crime mapping scheme which will allow for citizens of England and Wales to access information about local crime information and how to combat crime.

Jacqui Smith, whilst being Home Secretary was pleased to announce that minor crime has dropped year on year under the Labour government, and continued to do so in 2008. Her officials, however, acknowledge that major crimes such as serious assault, rape and murder have increased year-on-year under the Labour government and are at their highest level since at least 1997.

Jacqui Smith passed the 42 day detention law plans in the House of Commons, despite heavy opposition. The House of Lords crushingly defeated the law, with Lords characterising it as "fatally flawed, ill thought through and unnecessary", stating that "it seeks to further erode [...] fundamental legal and civil rights".

She is presently in the process of pushing through legislation for UK ID cards, having announced that they are to become compulsory for foreign students and airport staff. She has announced that the cards will cost "£30" but the true figure is likely to be double this. She has claimed, despite evidence to the contrary, that the majority of the population is in favour of the scheme.

Whether she goes or not,

THE DAMAGE TO OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS HAS BEEN DONE...


Great post sardonicus we all know Ms Smith was simply carrying out the orders for her puppet masters, (like ALL politicians) and as you said, the damage has been done. But her time is up, she has done her dirty little deeds, sold her soul, got her reward (big house, money, expense accounts) and time for another to step in.

size_of_light
30-03-2009, 03:43 PM
The Sunday Express reported that two films, which cost £5 each, were viewed on 6 and 8 April 2008 at Jacqui Smith's constituency home in Redditch.

The claim was also said to include two viewings of the film Ocean's 13 - at £3.75 each - and an additional £3.50 to watch the film Surf's Up.

=21 pounds! (no pound signs on Australian keyboards ;) )

Does this really work you guys up into a lather?

Jesus Christ you should see what kinda rorts Australian politicians get up to.

batou
30-03-2009, 09:36 PM
I think it's not the actual price, but the principle.

howie
30-03-2009, 09:43 PM
=21 pounds! (no pound signs on Australian keyboards ;) )



She also claimed taxpayers money to buy the 2 widescreen HDTVs she watched them on & used expenses to pay the mortgage on the house.

arten
30-03-2009, 09:48 PM
She spent 23 grand of our money, which is why I have dropped out of the system. What we need in this god fosaken country is a Revolution.

dragond
30-03-2009, 10:04 PM
She spent 23 grand of our money, which is why I have dropped out of the system. What we need in this god fosaken country is a Revolution.

ur right arten.. we need a revolution a.s.a.p but not the way people have done it before.. this revolution has to be different to the ones in history coz lets just face it, past revolutions was staged by the people on top to replace one sytem with another.. we need to create a new system for everyone to fit in where everyone has a say.. otherwise we'll be back in the same place with different faces..

D

ps.. i dont blame J.Smiths husband for the porn films, i mean if u had a wife that looked liked that then damn good luck to u.. im personally gonna send him a cheque for £20 for more xxx films.. :D:D

orbit
30-03-2009, 11:07 PM
Put your fingers in your mouth and say: he's a banker....

We probably paid for the tissues too :eek:

kde_
31-03-2009, 10:45 AM
Did anyone stop and think that this is a very public humiliation for Jacquie Smith. Why would they do this to her?

steevo
31-03-2009, 10:46 AM
Did anyone stop and think that this is a very public humiliation for Jacquie Smith. Why would they do this to her?

Yes I think that this is leading to something else maybe.

tyler
31-03-2009, 10:47 AM
Did anyone stop and think that this is a very public humiliation for Jacquie Smith. Why would they do this to her?

You're a bit late, mate!! Just got out of bed? :D

pipsicle
01-04-2009, 03:08 PM
I was wondering myself.... other MP's have claimed more in dubious expenses. What is the target of whoever's plotting against Jacqui Smith?

Her sex industry reforms. She's getting in the way of the all-out liberalisation of sex agenda, which will also include homosexuality being encouraged through the music industry and wall-to-wall porn. I want gay people to be gay because they are following their heart, not some manipulative social engineering agenda.

Will she seriously be able to fortify laws against punters now her husband has been idenitified as one?

brainfreeze
01-04-2009, 04:58 PM
Did anyone stop and think that this is a very public humiliation for Jacquie Smith. Why would they do this to her?

Can I just say, I'm still smiling over this, this couldn't have happened to a nicer woman. She who will pass moral judgement...Pah!

What titles did hubby download? Does anyone know?

Wouldn't it be funny if it was the Real Punting series?! - Even funnier if hubby starred in one. Oh I wish....:p :D

Ian2day
01-04-2009, 05:49 PM
What we need is alternatives

mistress_medusa
01-04-2009, 06:03 PM
Did anyone stop and think that this is a very public humiliation for Jacquie Smith. Why would they do this to her?

That's what I was thinking. Who found out? I'm sure politicans pull this kind of stunt all the time without it becoming news!

I'm disappointed that we got to know he watched Ocean's 13 and Surf's Up but not the names of the porn he watched. I bet CLIMAX SHOTS #70: MY BROWN EYE, NOT THE WINKER, THE STINKER* I bet it was! I bet it was! :D

* This is an actual porn title! Check out this site - http://www.rickroot.com/blog/1/2005/06/The-100-Worst-Porn-Movie-Titles-of-All-Time.cfm
I'm still laughing!

gilly
01-04-2009, 06:09 PM
That's what I was thinking. Who found out? I'm sure politicans pull this kind of stunt all the time without it becoming news!

I'm disappointed that we got to know he watched Ocean's 13 and Surf's Up but not the names of the porn he watched. I bet CLIMAX SHOTS #70: MY BROWN EYE, NOT THE WINKER, THE STINKER* I bet it was! I bet it was! :D

* This is an actual porn title! Check out this site - http://www.rickroot.com/blog/1/2005/06/The-100-Worst-Porn-Movie-Titles-of-All-Time.cfm
I'm still laughing!

I heard on the radio yesterday that it's believed some admin clerk who processes expense claims was responsible for the leak. They reckoned someone had been touting the details to the highest bidder.

The report was vague though, in that nobody is said to have been taken to task for it, so whether it's fact or fiction - I don't know.

drhemp
01-04-2009, 06:12 PM
If the New Labour project carries on for much longer, these will be the last years where leaks like this will ever be allowed to make the news.

joyce7
01-04-2009, 06:26 PM
I've no doubt they are all at it seeing what they can claim via the Tax payer.I recently met a local MP.I had a good look at her clothes from top to bottom and she'd certainly gone up in the world from being a Local Councillor.I was so cheeky I even commented on this to her.

enga
01-04-2009, 11:04 PM
Great...now she's been seen spending in Ann Summers. Maybe she's trying to spice stuff up for the fella or herself....shudder:eek:

allure
02-04-2009, 03:06 AM
TBH he didn't bill me or you for watching porn.

What, so are we getting taxed any extra for this incident? Would we be taxed any less if it hadn't occured?

The entire story is a complete non event. Nothing to get riled up over in the slightest.

No worse than my friend the other day phoning a taxi and charging it to the company he works fors account.

Get over it!

gilly
02-04-2009, 06:49 AM
TBH he didn't bill me or you for watching porn.

What, so are we getting taxed any extra for this incident? Would we be taxed any less if it hadn't occured?

The entire story is a complete non event. Nothing to get riled up over in the slightest.

No worse than my friend the other day phoning a taxi and charging it to the company he works fors account.

Get over it!

Yes we are paying for it, because our taxes are supposed to be spent on things for our benefit, not to give a politician's husband an ejaculation. So there's now a deficit to the value of those films in the coffers in some other area.

But it's not the value that's important - it's the principle, and the fact that it's been publicised in order to wind people up.

Also, as a result of this, it's been made clear that all politicians are up to it. Hence, a deliberate poke in the eye for impoverished Joe Public, who's wondering where his next mortgage installment's coming from, and again, it's all calculated to contribute to the summer of rage, so that they'll have an excuse to oppress people further.

Sorry, but for these reasons, this seemingly trivial indisgretion is pretty major in reality.

drhemp
02-04-2009, 10:57 AM
Yes we are paying for it, because our taxes are supposed to be spent on things for our benefit, not to give a politician's husband an ejaculation. So there's now a deficit to the value of those films in the coffers in some other area.

But it's not the value that's important - it's the principle, and the fact that it's been publicised in order to wind people up.

Also, as a result of this, it's been made clear that all politicians are up to it. Hence, a deliberate poke in the eye for impoverished Joe Public, who's wondering where his next mortgage installment's coming from, and again, it's all calculated to contribute to the summer of rage, so that they'll have an excuse to oppress people further.

Sorry, but for these reasons, this seemingly trivial indisgression is pretty major in reality.

Thank you, excellent post!

fekdemasons
02-04-2009, 12:08 PM
watched porn and billed me and you !?

WTF!?

and before anyone starts with 'oh they are gunna pay it back' bullshit dont bother, actions speak louder than words and they are taking the piss in large doses.not just with this latest shocker but all the rest of her shite.

this woman is skating on thin ice and this latest clanger should be enough to crack it good and proper.

get this bitch sacked !!!!!!!

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7970731.stm

Who can blame her old man for watching HC porn ?

He probably cant get it up for her anymore !

dlb2007
02-04-2009, 12:23 PM
watched porn and billed me and you !?

He is a wanker :D

allure
03-04-2009, 10:07 AM
Yes we are paying for it, because our taxes are supposed to be spent on things for our benefit, not to give a politician's husband an ejaculation. So there's now a deficit to the value of those films in the coffers in some other area.

But it's not the value that's important - it's the principle, and the fact that it's been publicised in order to wind people up.

Also, as a result of this, it's been made clear that all politicians are up to it. Hence, a deliberate poke in the eye for impoverished Joe Public, who's wondering where his next mortgage installment's coming from, and again, it's all calculated to contribute to the summer of rage, so that they'll have an excuse to oppress people further.

Sorry, but for these reasons, this seemingly trivial indisgretion is pretty major in reality.

In the same post you just said that this incident is only being publicised so much to wind us up, then admitted that its something we should be wound up over.

It isn't, I'm not.

gilly
03-04-2009, 10:26 AM
In the same post you just said that this incident is only being publicised so much to wind us up, then admitted that its something we should be wound up over.

It isn't, I'm not.

You seem to be either misunderstanding my point, or twisting my words, Allure. I didn't say "We should get wound up about it", I said it isn't trivial. Misappropriation of our money is a serious issue imo.

What I was saying is that their releasing this into the public domain is an attempt to incite riots, in their eagerly encouraged "Summer of Rage" escapade.

At no point have I ever said, "It's serious, so therefore let's go rioting".

It's a matter of being aware of their game, and pre-empting their 'problem - reaction -solution' tactics...and neither reacting in the way they hope, nor shrugging our shoulders at their deceit & theft and accepting that it's ok.

*edit* But if you think their deceit & theft is ok, that's your choice.

pinkgrapefruit
03-04-2009, 10:40 AM
TBH he didn't bill me or you for watching porn.

What, so are we getting taxed any extra for this incident? Would we be taxed any less if it hadn't occured?

The entire story is a complete non event. Nothing to get riled up over in the slightest.

No worse than my friend the other day phoning a taxi and charging it to the company he works fors account.

Get over it!

I don't know if it's the amount of money he 'billed' and/or what the money was for that doesn't bother you, but I am curious to know how much the bill would need to be, before you think it is an 'event'?

allure
03-04-2009, 11:15 AM
My point is that this story is a complete non event.

Look at the title of this thread, the anger being vented towards Jacqui Smiths husband and the mentions of us paying for him to have a wank. Our attention is being misdirected, a normal sexual impulse is being made out to be something shameful.

I'm not saying MP's charging everything and anything they want to their expense account is fine, I'm saying this event hasn't opened my eyes to anything I wasn't already aware of.

I'm not angry about it, or surprised.

The only shameful thing in this event is that all the attention is towards Jacqui Smiths husband spending £10 on porn, no mention of the fact that Jacqui Smiths expense account also included several wisescreen TV's and digi boxes, oh forget those, give us that 10er back for the porn films.

We all know that sacking her isn't going to change a thing.

If I worked in a postition where I had the opportunity to charge all and sundry to an expense account, I'd use it.

gilly
03-04-2009, 11:38 AM
My point is that this story is a complete non event.

Look at the title of this thread, the anger being vented towards Jacqui Smiths husband and the mentions of us paying for him to have a wank. Our attention is being misdirected, a normal sexual impulse is being made out to be something shameful.

I'm not saying MP's charging everything and anything they want to their expense account is fine, I'm saying this event hasn't opened my eyes to anything I wasn't already aware of.

I'm not angry about it, or surprised.

The only shameful thing in this event is that all the attention is towards Jacqui Smiths husband spending £10 on porn, no mention of the fact that Jacqui Smiths expense account also included several wisescreen TV's and digi boxes, oh forget those, give us that 10er back for the porn films.

We all know that sacking her isn't going to change a thing.

If I worked in a postition where I had the opportunity to charge all and sundry to an expense account, I'd use it.

You're wrong there Allure - I did bring up (maybe it was in a different thread) that she's claimed expenses for a 1,000 quid (my pound sign's duff), antique fireplace, a stone sink, a 300+ quid cooker, even a bath plug, etc.etc.etc.

That's what I said in an earlier post - with this porn thing hitting the headlines, they have taken the opportunity to publish all these many other items she's claimed AND the fact that the only reason other politicians aren't baying for her blood, is because they're all at it - it's the norm.

Add to that, the fact that spokesmen, instead of saying they'll put a stop to this abuse of power, are saying they'll look at stopping the expense claims, BUT, they'll INCREASE the bastards' wages, to compensate.

It's all intended as fuel to the fire, I'm sure.

The porn thing is just to add an extra sleaze dimension (like it was needed).

pinkgrapefruit
03-04-2009, 11:42 AM
My point is that this story is a complete non event.

Look at the title of this thread, the anger being vented towards Jacqui Smiths husband and the mentions of us paying for him to have a wank. Our attention is being misdirected, a normal sexual impulse is being made out to be something shameful.

I'm not saying MP's charging everything and anything they want to their expense account is fine, I'm saying this event hasn't opened my eyes to anything I wasn't already aware of.

I'm not angry about it, or surprised.

The only shameful thing in this event is that all the attention is towards Jacqui Smiths husband spending £10 on porn, no mention of the fact that Jacqui Smiths expense account also included several wisescreen TV's and digi boxes, oh forget those, give us that 10er back for the porn films.

We all know that sacking her isn't going to change a thing.

If I worked in a postition where I had the opportunity to charge all and sundry to an expense account, I'd use it.

Fair enough... And yes you're right about the TV and washing machine, no one seems to make a big issue of that.

Personally, what wound me up about it was Jacqui Smith telling us it was a mistake. If an MP admits a mistake and apologises then it's done and dusted... Why does this not apply to the minions they rule over?

fekdemasons
03-04-2009, 11:43 AM
Can I just say, I'm still smiling over this, this couldn't have happened to a nicer woman. She who will pass moral judgement...Pah!

What titles did hubby download? Does anyone know?

Wouldn't it be funny if it was the Real Punting series?! - Even funnier if hubby starred in one. Oh I wish....:p :D

Watching " THe wright stuff" I think it was Raw Meat 3.

sardonicus
03-04-2009, 11:48 AM
Steevo Yes I think that this is leading to something else maybe.

Agree. It won't be long before 'Global Global Gordon' gets the push.
Cue Jackboot Jacqui, the next lady Prime Minister to take Britain into
war with Iran...

gilly
03-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Steevo
Agree. It won't be long before 'Global Global Gordon' gets the push.
Cue Jackboot Jacqui, the next lady Prime Minister to take Britain to
war with Iran...

:eek: Say it isn't so!

pinkgrapefruit
03-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Steevo

Agree. It won't be long before 'Global Global Gordon' gets the push.
Cue Jackboot Jacqui, the next lady Prime Minister to take Britain into
war with Iran...

Ooh... that's a warped mind you've got there Sir!

whizzer
03-04-2009, 12:12 PM
Steevo

Agree. It won't be long before 'Global Global Gordon' gets the push.
Cue Jackboot Jacqui, the next lady Prime Minister to take Britain into
war with Iran...

Don't even joke about that!!:eek::eek::eek::)

pinkgrapefruit
05-04-2009, 12:23 PM
More revalations about this woman and her expenses, don't worry though, 'she hasn't broken any rules'!

But has 'poor' Mr Smith been banished to the Sofa for watching porn? I can't see how this should matter much as according to Mrs. Smith, she is rarely at their second home anyway.
She refused to comment on claims that her husband Richard Timney, who was blamed for ordering the adult films, had been banished to the sofa.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167576/Shamed-Jacqui-Smith-claimed-expenses-household-goods-including-barbecue.html