New Yorkers urged to drink fluoridated water

[1 2 free]

New York City promotes tap water

By Jane Peel
BBC News, New York

The City of New York is trying to persuade its people to give up bottled drinks and consume tap water instead to help protect the environment.

It has launched an advertising campaign to promote the cause, with local restaurants encouraged to join in.

City officials say their campaign will save people money, and reduce waste.

According to environmental groups, four out of five plastic water bottles end up on landfill sites and the production process contributes to global warming.

The distribution process sometimes involves shipping water halfway around the world.

New Yorkers, who are coping with a summer heatwave, are divided on the merits of the campaign.

Already restaurants in California have begun to serve only tap water and some in New York are looking to follow suit.

But the Bottled Water Association says it is unfair to single out an industry that is promoting recycling and introducing biodegradable packaging.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/6286606.stm

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New York's water is fluoridated. There is also mercury in the sluice gates that regulate the water system.

[anoninnyc]

New York City promotes tap water

By Jane Peel
BBC News, New York

The City of New York is trying to persuade its people to give up bottled drinks and consume tap water instead to help protect the environment.

It has launched an advertising campaign to promote the cause, with local restaurants encouraged to join in.

City officials say their campaign will save people money, and reduce waste.

According to environmental groups, four out of five plastic water bottles end up on landfill sites and the production process contributes to global warming.

The distribution process sometimes involves shipping water halfway around the world.

New Yorkers, who are coping with a summer heatwave, are divided on the merits of the campaign.

Already restaurants in California have begun to serve only tap water and some in New York are looking to follow suit.

But the Bottled Water Association says it is unfair to single out an industry that is promoting recycling and introducing biodegradable packaging.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/6286606.stm

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New York's water is fluoridated. There is also mercury in the sluice gates that regulate the water system.


sorry but i will not touch nyc tap water.

[montag]

There is a bit of promotion here in Australia too trying to get people back to fluoridated tap water.. http://blogs.theage.com.au/managementline/archives/2007/07/message_in_a_bo.html?page=fullpage#comments

They also want to start adding fluoride to bottled water.. http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2007/s1858471.htm

[lottie]

why dont the new yorkers drink tap water anyway? ive never drunk bottled water in my life....im not PAYING for water!! its free!! im sure my water is full of crap anyway- but i would have thought bottled water would be easier to put shit in if 'they' wanted to?!! :confused:

[montag]

why dont the new yorkers drink tap water anyway? ive never drunk bottled water in my life....im not PAYING for water!! its free!! im sure my water is full of crap anyway- but i would have thought bottled water would be easier to put shit in if 'they' wanted to?!! :confused:
The only safe way is to distill it yourself, it costs me around 12cents a litre.
I do this mainly for my children, it's probably too late for me, I'd already been drinking fluoridated water for over thirty years before I woke up to it..:o

[truthsayer]

There's no way I am drinking water straight from the tap! I'll drink it filtered but otherwise I drink bottled.

After my father was diagnosed with Kidney cancer and they first stated it was a result of a water born virus (they later retracted that statement) I will never drink straight from the tap again.

They stick aluminum and flouride in our water here in the UK. Both have been linked alzheimers and Cancer, and the later dulls the brain and cognitive functions.

The Department of Health in New Jersey found that bone cancer in male children was between two and seven times greater in areas where water was fluoridated. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) researchers confirmed the bone cancer-causing effects of fluoride at low levels in an animal model. A new study has shown that fluoridation of water is linked to uterine cancer deaths.An also...

A study published in Brain Research shows that rats drinking only 1 part per million fluoride (NaF) in water had histologic lesions in their brain similar to Alzheimer's disease and dementia. In addition, evidence was seen pointing to possible damage to the blood brain barrier from extended fluoride exposure. This study was the third in a series of papers published by Varner et al. Brain Research Vol. 784 No. 12 p 284-298 (1998). Results of this recent study and other studies showing significant dangers from low-level fluoride exposure

[lookfar]

The only safe way is to distill it yourself, it costs me around 12cents a litre.
I do this mainly for my children, it's probably too late for me, I'd already been drinking fluoridated water for over thirty years before I woke up to it..:o

I totally agree montag. I hate drinking tap water with all that crap added to it!! I bought my distiller a few months ago & use it every day, wouldn't want to be without it & it's actually one of my favourite gadgets, lol!!:)

I'm not surprised that they're trying harder to get fluoride into everyone right now... they seem to be increasing pace & coming from all angles!!:mad:

[lottie]

Is there anyway 'we' can test our water ourselves? i mean any kits out there to test whats in our water? i'd be interested in trying!

[anoninnyc]

why dont the new yorkers drink tap water anyway? ive never drunk bottled water in my life....im not PAYING for water!! its free!! im sure my water is full of crap anyway- but i would have thought bottled water would be easier to put shit in if 'they' wanted to?!! :confused:

well as a new yorker i will tell you i refuse to touch it. first of all it is cloudy and funky looking. secondly it tastes like crap. and thirdly god knows what crap is in it.

i will also not drink dasani bottled water from the coca cola company.

[synergy777]

but i thought bottled water was good for you?

maybe old ny mayor mike bloomberg went short on danone/evian shares, lol less consumption, maybe a share price fall, lol

[graflok]

Fluoride can be filtered out of tap water via a reverse osmosis filter.

[chicken_little]

Bottled water is a joke. First of all, most of it comes from a tap anyway. Some if might be treated and cleaned up somehow, but that depends on the source. Second, it's stored in plastic bottles, some of which bleed toxic crap into the water. And lastly, the number of plastic bottles being tossed into landfills because of bottle water is alarming. There was a report on the news last night about this very topic, and I think they gave a number well over 1 billion bottles being thrown away every year by Americans.

On the other hand, I understand the preference towards bottled water over nasty tap water. So in some areas it makes sense to seek an alternative to the tap. But still, consider the fact that the plastics are not only toxic to the body, but also the damage being done to the earth.

Why not just invest a nice quality filter that you can attach to your sink faucet or one of the pitchers with a filter built into it? In the long run it's cheaper, plus you know where the water came from. And you won't be paying a bunch of cash for something that you can get for nearly free from your own tap. :)

Here's a good quote from an article (http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/water121003.cfm) I found pertaining to this topic:

For the price of one bottle of Evian, a person can use 1,000 gallons of tap water in the home.

[chicken_little]

Is there anyway 'we' can test our water ourselves? i mean any kits out there to test whats in our water? i'd be interested in trying!

I can't say with 100% certainty, but I imagine that there's got to be some sort of testing kit you can purchase. You can buy test kits to test water for a fish tank, so something for tap/drinking water has to be available.

[anoninnyc]

Fluoride can be filtered out of tap water via a reverse osmosis filter.


anyone know of a good brand/model of filter i can attach to my kitchen fawcett? i live in the usa.

[niftygifter]

Just ring the helplines on all the bottled water companies.Shown clearly on the side of the bottle advertising the"wonderful" natural elements that exist in their water.
Ask them if fluoride is added to their "Natural sourced water" and just wait for the very obvious pause and sheepish answer of "Yes, it is".
In, fact we should all keep doing it, continually to all the companies :rolleyes:

You will find that fluoride is added in virtually every market brand of bottled water.You wont get away from it completely.
Someone somewhere had done a list of which bottled water was worst for you, but I cant remember where it is. I think a volcanic type of water was worse;)

However I fitted one of these:D
http://www.fountainfilters.co.uk/prac979.htm
This filters out all Fluoride, Chlorine and all nasties, costs around £120, is a doddle to fit and even at half life of the filters still filters 98% of flouride.
Filter renewal cost £40 per annum. Cheaper than buying bottled water continuously:rolleyes:
If you are in Scotland, I believe they dont have fluoride in their water, in most areas at least. I also believe that the dental decay there is significantly less than England because of this:mad:
As for the rest of this wonderful planet I am not sure if the fittings would be compatable with your pipes.
I am also very interested in charged or energised water. It is very interesting to note that straight pipes de-energise water, whereas natural tumbling of water down streams actually charges it. Hmmm!
The filters are good for about 7000 litres of water, and it tastes sooo sweet:p
The backup from the company is also superb.
You cant actually filter the whole house, so you will be still showering or bathing in it and, of course, if you have non stick pans, then you are cooking with it also. Yes non stick pans exude fluoride into your food as well!
Dont this lovely government think of everything and to think that we even pay them as well:cool:
Get yourself a good quality drinking bottle (polycarbonate) and you are good to go and fluoride free'r for the year (or most of it).


Nifty

[ashyr]

if u know anything about alchemy. anything to test what is in the water is adding something to the water. therefore readings will never be correct.

also bottled water has flouride in it. they just dont put it on the "INGREDIENTS" list.

they got away with that here for a while. just putting "Pure Bottled At The Source Water" on the bottle.
now they have to put "Based on Typical Analysis" the contents of the waters. etc sulphate's/sodiums etc even flouride. but some bottles dont put flouride on the analysis. eg. evian. im sure and that really expensive san palegro i think its called. has flouride.

flouride is such a problem, now sports.

[1 2 free]

I had no idea that bottled water has fluoride added to it. But Googling confirms it. :( Anyone know of any UK brands that are fluoride free? I can get a water filter sorted out at home but if I'm out and about it would be nice to get something fluoride/sugar/aspartame free.

[real6]

Damn, i been living in NYC my whole life and i havent really touched the Tap Water. hahahaahahahah@ that report. they really exspect us to drink that shit!!!
They must be out their GOD DAMN MIND!!!!!
Oh wait, they are......Sowwy!!!!!!!!!

[anoninnyc]

Figures from tests conducted by the Natural Resources Defense Council:


Apollinaris Sparkling Mineral Water (1 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.37 ppm, below std.

Beechnut Water, Fluoride Added (1 gallon)
Fluoride found at 0.71 ppm

Black Mountain Fluoridated Water (1 gallon)
Fluoride found at 0.93 ppm (exceeds standard in warm areas)

Black Mountain Fluoridated Water
Fluoride found at 1.3 ppm (exceeds standard in warm areas)

Canada Dry (Sparklling Water)
Fluoride found at 0.13 ppm, well below std.

Crystal Geyser Alpine Spring Water
Fluoride found at 0.82 ppm

Gerber Baby Water with Fluoride (1.5 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.46 ppm, below standard

Lucky Seltzer Water (2 liters)
Fluoride found at 0.84 ppm

Odwalla Geothermal Natural Spring Water (1 liter)
Fluoride found at 1.5 ppm and 1.6 ppm

Opal Spring Water (1.5 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.16 ppm

S. Pellegrino Sparkling Natural Mineral Water (1 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.37 ppm (below standard)

Safeway Drinking Water (1 gallon)
Fluoride found at 0.81 ppm (above standard in warm weather areas)

Safeway Select Club Soda (2 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.64 ppm, below std.

Safeway Select Seltzer Water (2 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.83 ppm* above warm weather std. for added fluoride

Safeway Spring Water (1 gallon)
Fluoride found at 0.28 ppm, below std.

Sahara Mountain Spring Water (1.5 liter)
Fluoride at 0.54 ppm

Schweppes Club Soda (1 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.13 ppm, well below standard

Schweppes Seltzer Water (1 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.28 ppm, well below standard

Shasta Sparkling Club Soda (2 liters)
Fluoride found at 0.19 ppm, well below standard

Volvic Natural Spring Water (1.5 liter)
Fluoride found at 0.17 ppm, well below standard

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=521352

[truthsayer]

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=521352

Argh, there's me drinking Evian because I don't want to drink fluoride water and its in there too, and I didn't even know. Thankfully I drink filtered tap water using a Brita filter jug as well and I know about this now so will just stop drinking bottled water altogether.

[ashyr]

yeah good move. wish i could do the same.

btw guys theres 2 types of flouride.

im not sure in understandin the difference between them bt i think

FLOURIDE = bad
FLOURINE or FLOURENE i think its called is a good natural type.

check it out.

[phoenixchilde]

According to environmental groups, four out of five plastic water bottles end up on landfill sites and the production process contributes to global warming.

Are New Yorkers really that lazy when it comes to recycling?


The distribution process sometimes involves shipping water halfway around the world.

How the hell is that true. Ontario exports bottled water. We're definitely not halfway around the world.

[chicken_little]

How the hell is that true. Ontario exports bottled water. We're definitely not halfway around the world.

It's because some people regard bottled water, especially the more "exotic" brands, as something of a status symbol. So they only purchase the stuff that comes from...halfway around the world. :eek:

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the stuff that supposedly comes from a place like the Swiss Alps, which is probably something like what these uppity water drinkers MUST have, is actually bottled in some run down home with a rusty faucet and some mean old woman running the show and employing her grandkids by making them fill up bottles with water.

[freespark]

...Wouldn't it be hilarious if the stuff that supposedly comes from a place like the Swiss Alps, which is probably something like what these uppity water drinkers MUST have, is actually bottled in some run down home with a rusty faucet and some mean old woman running the show and employing her grandkids by making them fill up bottles with water.

This time next year Rodders...we'll be millionairs!

[notaslave]

This time next year Rodders...we'll be millionairs!

:D hehehe

I only drink boiled tap stuff not sure if that kills off any dangerous chemicals but well you know lol

Someone mentioned the plastic leaking into the water (from the bottles). I wouldnt know but I can certainly taste the plastic in milk and will only buy in cartons where possible.

[truthsayer]

Someone mentioned the plastic leaking into the water (from the bottles). I wouldnt know but I can certainly taste the plastic in milk and will only buy in cartons where possible.

Worse still, there is the female hormone oestrogen in these plastics and is linked with sterility in men.

[niftygifter]

Boiling water does get rid of some nasties, but Not the real nasties or Fluoride.

Nifty;)

[anoninnyc]

noone has answered my question about a good water filter in the usa. i realize most of you are from the u.k. guess that is why. really wish i had a good solution here.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Anyone who has a few hundred bucks to spare, look up Burkey water filters. I hear they're good, but I've never been able to afford one. Lucky for me, I'm on my own well out here in Missouri. :cool:

[phoenixchilde]

Someone mentioned the plastic leaking into the water (from the bottles). I wouldnt know but I can certainly taste the plastic in milk and will only buy in cartons where possible.

The articles published by health Canada indicate three situations in which the chemicals leak from the bottle into the water. Those are if you freeze the water, if you heat the water(ie leave it in the sun on a hot day) or if you refill a water bottle. So, if you're like me and drink bottled water, try to avoid those situations.

[mikeproteau]

Argh, there's me drinking Evian because I don't want to drink fluoride water and its in there too, and I didn't even know. Thankfully I drink filtered tap water using a Brita filter jug as well and I know about this now so will just stop drinking bottled water altogether.
sorry to burst your bubble agian dude but brita is a total cop-out. It does NOTHING to remove floride and only improves taste. Get a berkey and that is not even 100% but its better than nothing

[cmdr_sabbathius]

I've always heard with a berkey if it is one of the really high-dollar ones, you can run water from a pond, creek, or river through it and it would be drinkable.

Personally, I wouldn't do that without boiling the water first, tho, just to be safe. Savvy?

[anoninnyc]

Anyone who has a few hundred bucks to spare, look up Burkey water filters. I hear they're good, but I've never been able to afford one. Lucky for me, I'm on my own well out here in Missouri. :cool:

thanks. the berkey flter looks very good. but in a small nyc apartment i was hoping for one i could just put on my faucet. thanks though, as this gives me a good comparison for filters.

[danielg]

Berky with blackfilters work decent for gravity filters, but there are better gravity filters about. Even the WaterMan pocket filter is superior, removes more flouride, produces cleaner water and increases the pH value. Far better than any distiller I've used is the Jupiter Melody (a better mode>l Alphion is now out) which oxgenates, acidifies/alkailinises, adds calcium and carbon fliters water.
I've had it for 2 years and have'nt had any illness.
Water test kits can be found on www.ionlife.com as well as electric/gravitywater filters and shower filters.
https://secure15.ozhosting.com/ionlife/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1&cat=Alkaline%20Ionized%20Water%20filters.
Preferred System for:
Dr. Robert O. Young ("The pH Miracle")
Dr. Ted Baroody ("Alkalize or Die")
Sang Whang ("Reverse Aging")
David Niven Miller ("Grow Youthful")
Daniel Reid ("The Tao of Health Sex and Longevity")
Nutritionalist Walter Last ("Radiant Health")

If you have a garden, buying a waterbutt is a cleaner choice than drinking recycled tap water, with unflitered pharma compounds like prozac and the pill (yummy!).

[kerksal]

My family uses a Brita water filter, and I just checked on their website for anything about fluoride.

http://www.brita.com.au/help/frequently_asked_questions
Then control-f and type 'fluoride'.

'Does BRITA reduce / remove fluoride ?

The BRITA Water Filter System does not remove fluoride from tap water. Fluoride is a negatively charged ion and does not react with the components of the BRITA Filter Cartridge.'

So whoever it was that said Brita doesn't filter out fluoride is correct... unfortunately.

I don't know what to do :(

Anyone here know which bottled water brands in Australia have no fluoride

EDIT: Looks like the best choice is just tap water which is properly filtered... Bottled water either has fluoride or will have fluoride soon, it seems. They don't even need to actually list fluoride in the ingredients on the bottle...

[david ickes bike]

Bush to America: Drink Shit

www.irregulartimes.com/drinkshit.html

[ashyr]

well something seriously dumb is going on. who deleted my post.

thats the lst straw. im sick of ppl stuffin with my shit on this forum.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH MY ARSE

here it is again if people are so concerned about what i speak. they have to delete my posts cause its gonig to give people to much ideas and thoughts.

for those of you who are really interested in how to avoid the problems associated with MODERATED water. jus like this MODERATED- site. then follow this link..

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magtrap.htm

HERE!!!!!

[friendsinthesky]

Anyone here know which bottled water brands in Australia have no fluoride


In Melbourne you can buy Crystal Creek 'reverse osmosis' bottled water from selected IGA supermarkets.

Crystal Creek 1300 720 227 (mornington,vic)


..or


Get a 'reverse osmosis' system for your tap water.

http://www.psifilters.com.au/Reverse%20Osmosis%20undersink.htm


# Anyone who wants to "fast" should also douche and the best water to use is 'reverse osmosis'.

[ashyr]

reverse osmosis can be good yep... thogh if u search thru it and further investigate what reverse ozmosis is like. you will move towards the realm of what im talkin with that link above. thats where ppl start jumping on your back. prison 101.

[lookfar]

well something seriously dumb is going on. who deleted my post.

thats the lst straw. im sick of ppl stuffin with my shit on this forum.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH MY ARSE

here it is again if people are so concerned about what i speak. they have to delete my posts cause its gonig to give people to much ideas and thoughts.

for those of you who are really interested in how to avoid the problems associated with MODERATED water. jus like this MODERATED- site. then follow this link..

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magtrap.htm

HERE!!!!!

Thanks for the link ashyr, just checking it out now...

I currently use a stainless steel water distiller at the moment, which I wouldn't be without, but need to find out more from Barry Carter, he's got some great info on ORMUS. Thanks for sharing :)

[kromagg]

So global warming is officially the new boogeyman, then?