Movies, manipulation and the NWO

[flyermay]

There is no doubt that the United States owe a lot to Hollywood for all the propaganda done in their name for most of the 20th century. People from all places and races dreamt at least once with being a cowboy, a gangster, a detective, or even an astronaut. They were also embedded the image that Americans are always the good guys, and that the US is an example of freedom and justice.

Recently, many people are starting to see that once in a while Hollywood also presents a more disturbing type of manipulation that has nothing to do with selling the American dream to the rest of the world: the hidden clues in preparation for what is to come.

There is no doubt that the “Matrix” is one of the most representative of this type of movies. On the top of my head, I also remember David Icke taking about “Monsters Inc” and their fear generator. Also, there was a short series previous to 9-11 that introduced to us to the idea of a plane being hijacked by terrorist to attack the World Trade Centre. And the date of birth of Jon Voight in the 1998 film “Enemy of the State”, who was 9-11, and was casually involved in a corruption case with the object of passing through congress some laws to increase civilian surveillance. Or "the Bourne Supremacy", which deals with brainwashing and mind controlled assassins.

The most recent case is the sci-fi movie “Watchmen”, which ends up justifying the mass murdering with a nuclear explosion all the inhabitants of a large US city to unite all the nations and achieve global peace. I was just shocked when I saw all the “watchmen” (but one; who was killed instantly) accepting the justifications for the atrocity, and with it keep the world in peace. What it's not clear is if this justifies past events, like 911, or horrors to come.

I wonder if any of you also saw one these movies that seem to present clues to future (or past) events related to the agenda of the “New World Order”, as it would be really intersting to list them here.

[oracle2008]

see i often think about things like this but i wonder what the source is. Films like the matrix changed my perspective on a lot of things because it makes you think for yourself, it makes you question things. I wonder if the people who made films like these are affiliated with the people striving to oppress us, slowly desensitising us to the idea of corrupt government and mind control etc so that when they strike the people who try to reveal them for what they are will be laughed away, or are they mavericks, people who realise what is going on and instead of trying to resist in obvious ways that get them nowhere they use the oppressors tactics against them, slowly conditioning society to be more self aware using them same technique but a different message?

I have also noticed it in tv shows, things like prison break, heroes, dexter, jericho, lost to an extent and many others that all have story lines that centre around corrupt companies/governments etc trying to take over the world or twist society to their own ends with individuals trying to fight them. The generaql unifying message seems to be not to trust society and to open your mind, think for yourself. Regardess of the source, this seems like a positive to me so its all good.

Also check the link below for a critique of 'The Obama deception' dvd. It makes alex jones look like a bit of a loony but i found this on a mainstream hip hop site, so at least information is starting to get out there about the truth. Much love peeps

Oracle

http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsdvd/archive/2009/03/30/21301702.aspx

[flyermay]

see i often think about things like this but i wonder what the source is. Films like the matrix changed my perspective on a lot of things because it makes you think for yourself, it makes you question things. I wonder if the people who made films like these are affiliated with the people striving to oppress us, slowly desensitising us to the idea of corrupt government and mind control etc so that when they strike the people who try to reveal them for what they are will be laughed away, or are they mavericks, people who realise what is going on and instead of trying to resist in obvious ways that get them nowhere they use the oppressors tactics against them, slowly conditioning society to be more self aware using them same technique but a different message?

I have also noticed it in tv shows, things like prison break, heroes, dexter, jericho, lost to an extent and many others that all have story lines that centre around corrupt companies/governments etc trying to take over the world or twist society to their own ends with individuals trying to fight them. The generaql unifying message seems to be not to trust society and to open your mind, think for yourself. Regardess of the source, this seems like a positive to me so its all good.

Also check the link below for a critique of 'The Obama deception' dvd. It makes alex jones look like a bit of a loony but i found this on a mainstream hip hop site, so at least information is starting to get out there about the truth. Much love peeps

Oracle

http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsdvd/archive/2009/03/30/21301702.aspx

In my opinion, both exist: the ones that want to keep us hypnotised, and the ones who want to wake us up. However, I have no doubt of which side is mainstream Hollywood.

In terms of the sources, I think they are quite varied, but a lot of times I can clearly see that certain policies and laws are being conveniently promoted/introduced at the right time before the real thing; which leaves me no doubt of its source. Entertainment is the perfect medium to hide subliminal messages for huge audiences who do not even suspect that they are being brainwashed/awakened, as you open your mind to them without being critical.

I also think that you are absolutely right when you say that these movies are meant to make you think, as I believe that this way the message is far more effective. The best way to convince someone of an idea is to make them think that they came up with it (this is a well known influence & persuasion technique). As an example, I heard that the original script from the “Matrix” focused heavily on the government, but had to be changed to avoid controversy; probably with an even better effect as originally thought.

In the other hand, I don’t think that the message and its effects are always obvious. For example, you talk about focusing on corrupt companies/governments, but this can be seeing as a double edged sword: in one side introducing the idea to the ones that don’t believe this is true (therefore, starting to think that this could really happen), and in the other hand convincing many others that this is just the way things are and that it is completely normal (therefore, getting used to it and accepting it).

Either way, thanks for listing those TV series, I forgot completely about them, but I totally agree with you that they have a heavy load of subliminal messages.

P.D. Thank you David Icke and Alex Jones for being such loonies!!!

[fekdemasons]

In my opinion, both exist: the ones that want to keep us hypnotised, and the ones who want to wake us up. However, I have no doubt of which side is mainstream Hollywood.

In terms of the sources, I think they are quite varied, but a lot of times I can clearly see that certain policies and laws are being conveniently promoted/introduced at the right time before the real thing; which leaves me no doubt of its source. Entertainment is the perfect medium to hide subliminal messages for huge audiences who do not even suspect that they are being brainwashed/awakened, as you open your mind to them without being critical.

I also think that you are absolutely right when you say that these movies are meant to make you think, as I believe that this way the message is far more effective. The best way to convince someone of an idea is to make them think that they came up with it (this is a well known influence & persuasion technique). As an example, I heard that the original script from the “Matrix” focused heavily on the government, but had to be changed to avoid controversy; probably with an even better effect as originally thought.

In the other hand, I don’t think that the message and its effects are always obvious. For example, you talk about focusing on corrupt companies/governments, but this can be seeing as a double edged sword: in one side introducing the idea to the ones that don’t believe this is true (therefore, starting to think that this could really happen), and in the other hand convincing many others that this is just the way things are and that it is completely normal (therefore, getting used to it and accepting it).

Either way, thanks for listing those TV series, I forgot completely about them, but I totally agree with you that they have a heavy load of subliminal messages.

P.D. Thank you David Icke and Alex Jones for being such loonies!!!

Guys , Great thread !

Since coming out of the coma I read newspapers and watch movies in a completely different way.

My favs :-

THe Trueman show. From birth he doesn't realise he's in a false reality. Lol
His wife doing the adds to camera (Hillarious)

Pleasantville.

Minority report. This will happen

Castaway. One man stranded on an island for 4 years realises when he's rescued he was probs better off on his own island !

All the apocolyptic movies we've seen increasing over the years. Deep impact , cloverfield etc etc

I could go on ...

[flyermay]

Guys , Great thread !

Since coming out of the coma I read newspapers and watch movies in a completely different way.

My favs :-

THe Trueman show. From birth he doesn't realise he's in a false reality. Lol
His wife doing the adds to camera (Hillarious)

Pleasantville.

Minority report. This will happen

Castaway. One man stranded on an island for 4 years realises when he's rescued he was probs better off on his own island !

All the apocolyptic movies we've seen increasing over the years. Deep impact , cloverfield etc etc

I could go on ...

Thanks a lot, those are great examples of the manipulation we are imposed since we are born.

It is quite worrying how many apocalyptic movies they do lately, as you pointed out. It might be sign that something big is comming this way. More examples:

The core, The Day the Earth Stood Still , the War of the Worlds, Armagedon, and so on.

All fairly rencent movies, but why? What's the message? Do they come from our side, awakening us, or from their side, spreading fear?

[size_of_light]

An oldie from left-field, but I saw it the other day and it made me laugh...

The Caine Mutiny (1954).

Synopsis:

During the Second World War, onboard a small insignificant ship in the U.S. Pacific Fleet, an event occurs unlike any that the United States Navy has ever experianced. A Ship's Captain is removed from his command by his Executive Officer in an apparent outright act of mutiny. As the trial of the mutineers unfold, it is then learned that the Captain of the ship was mentally unstable, perhaps even insane. The Navy must then decide: was the Caine Mutiny a criminal act? Or an act of courage to save a ship from destruction at the hands of her Captain.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/plotsummary

To ruin the movie for you if you've never seen it, Humphrey Bogart - the ship's captain - is proven mad during the court hearing and our heroes are spared execution.

Then, afterwards at the celebration party, the heroic Defendant who begrudgingly took on the case but then proved them right (played by Jose Ferrera, who I think Obama modeled his voice on) staggers in drunk in a surprise twist and delivers a sermon to them on how they were really the villains - not the Captain - because they should have offered him emotional support and stood by his decisions no matter what, because, after all, he was the Captain. Our heroes then look guilty and realise he's right.

That's it. That's the moral of this batshit-insane movie: even if you're right, you're wrong because this is the US-fucking-Navy and even if your Captain is crazy, supporting him is the right thing to do.

I'm not kidding. And it's considered a cinema classic, not some laughable wartime propaganda-reel.

[flyermay]

The Caine Mutiny (1954).

Synopsis:

During the Second World War, onboard a small insignificant ship in the U.S. Pacific Fleet, an event occurs unlike any that the United States Navy has ever experianced. A Ship's Captain is removed from his command by his Executive Officer in an apparent outright act of mutiny. As the trial of the mutineers unfold, it is then learned that the Captain of the ship was mentally unstable, perhaps even insane. The Navy must then decide: was the Caine Mutiny a criminal act? Or an act of courage to save a ship from destruction at the hands of her Captain.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/plotsummary



This one is on the line of "Billy Budd", written by Herman Melville and taken to the cinema in 1962 and to television in 1980, 1988 and 1998.

The plot goes around a sailor from the British navy that accidentally kills an officer. He is court marshalled and hanged, though everyone thinks that it was an accident and that he was innocent. Unfortunately, they also understand that the future of the navy is at stake and that not hanging him could provoke mutinies and insurrections among other British ships.

Many researchers believe that this is exactly what is happening these days behind the scenes; explaining why there are so many people convicted without a fair trial, while the real perpetrators are left conveniently untouched (it's not fair, but it keeps the status quo).

[ownoiz]

Comments about dna/genetics/regeneration/living longer...

X-files movie.

Gattaca.

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

Claire Bear in Heroes...episode with discussion about humans with lizard DNA to regenerate limbs etc..

"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

Who is the other 2% and whats going to happen to them??

In the movie Click, Mr "Roth" :rolleyes: (Adam Sandler) tells his daughter he will live for 200 years.

Little Nicky starring Adam Sandler...shoving pineapples up Hitlers ass in hell is funny, right? Maybe not a sign of things to come as the thread suggests, but another obvious bit of joo ish BS from a Sandler movie, plenty more where that came from if you look hard enough...

As Homer Simpson stares at the TV in a trancelike state, Lisa just discovers the bees are dying, and runs in to tell Homer..

LISA: Dad! Dad! all the bees are dying out!

HOMER (major sarcasm): Oh no! now who will sting me and walk all over my sandwhiches!

Yeah, bees suck, says the people who fall for the joke, who needs em right, they are just a PITA.
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"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" - Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

[rydeon]

I've found that many movies made pre-1990s do not push the NWO agenda, indeed they tended to be opposed to such notions.
This, I think was a reflection of the actual time and lack of NWO 'force' present then
It could also be that the film industry was more fragmented, more diverse.
It was cheaper to make a movie, ergo you didn't need to go cap in hand to Hollywood for funding under their producers.
Post 1990s Movies made that cater to 'entertainment' and more to children/adolescents over adults. This means that they tend to be more dumbed down and less intelligent.

Sure some of the trend-setting films started as far back as the late 1970s like Star Wars and by the mid to late 1980s the paradigm shift had taken hold pretty much.

I look and like films that aren't part of the NWO bs.

If I start delving into what are it's quite depressive to search for the negative.

Anyway films that often seem to strike a cord against the brainwashing hollywood/NWO entertainment.
Films that are anti-NWO tend to be more indie style.

Conan the Barbarian.
She.
Gattaca.
Warlords of the 21st Century aka Battletruck.
Firebird 2015 AD.
The Keep.

[flyermay]

I've found that many movies made pre-1990s do not push the NWO agenda, indeed they tended to be opposed to such notions.
This, I think was a reflection of the actual time and lack of NWO 'force' present then
It could also be that the film industry was more fragmented, more diverse.
It was cheaper to make a movie, ergo you didn't need to go cap in hand to Hollywood for funding under their producers.
Post 1990s Movies made that cater to 'entertainment' and more to children/adolescents over adults. This means that they tend to be more dumbed down and less intelligent.

I totally agree with these statements. It seems that their agenda pre-1990 was more focused towards accumulating power than brainwashing for the final goal. But they did heavy brainwashing during those times too, just that they seem to focus on other objectives, probably following a series of steps. These steps might seem contradictory: first nationalism, then globalism, but they wouldn't be able to push globalisation previous to the 1990's, no one would fall for it.

There is also no doubt about the fact that they are targeting the youth, who have been conveniently stripped out of any sensibilities, dumbed down, and granted an enormous decision and acquisition power.

Sure some of the trend-setting films started as far back as the late 1970s like Star Wars and by the mid to late 1980s the paradigm shift had taken hold pretty much.

You see, I don't agree with those who think Star Wars is part of the NWO agenda; at least the first trilogy (maybe I'm not connecting the dots). At the contrary, I think that Star Wars promotes the uprising and the revolution against the system:

The plot is about some revels that fight against an established totalitarian empire.
The heroes are: a poor farmer, a pair of contrabandists, a princess on exile, and 2 robots that don't seem to conform to their programming and specifications.
The message: the dark side is faster and easier, but not necessarily more powerful.
The result: it doesn't matter if you are the small guy, you can beat the system if you fight for what is fair and right.


I don't know, am I just being naive?

[size_of_light]

You see, I don't agree with those who think Star Wars is part of the NWO agenda; at least the first trilogy (maybe I'm not connecting the dots). At the contrary, I think that Star Wars promotes the uprising and the revolution against the system:

The plot is about some revels that fight against an established totalitarian empire.
The heroes are: a poor farmer, a pair of contrabandists, a princess on exile, and 2 robots that don't seem to conform to their programming and specifications.
The message: the dark side is faster and easier, but not necessarily more powerful.
The result: it doesn't matter if you are the small guy, you can beat the system if you fight for what is fair and right.


I don't know, am I just being naive?

No, I agree.

There's stuff written about agendas at play behind the creation of Star Wars and I think it did lead to what one critic described as "the juvenalisation of film", but the Original Trilogy as storytelling experiences alone could hardly be described as negative manipulation.

The scene where Darth Vader turns back from the Dark Side at the end of Return of the Jedi still gives me a lump in the throat and makes my heart swell.

As for the Prequel Trilogy, well, I just pretend that doesn't exist.

[flyermay]

As for the Prequel Trilogy, well, I just pretend that doesn't exist.

Completely agree, well... it does exist, but it isn't what I refer to as "Star Wars".

[size_of_light]

Completely agree, well... it does exist, but it isn't what I refer to as "Star Wars".

No! No! DOESN'T exist! Never happened! I don't even know what you're talking about!

:D

[flyermay]

No! No! DOESN'T exist! Never happened! I don't even now what you're talking about!

:D

That's fine with me, for what it's worth, I'm willing to accept it never existed ;)

[rydeon]

I totally agree with these statements. It seems that their agenda pre-1990 was more focused towards accumulating power than brainwashing for the final goal. But they did heavy brainwashing during those times too, just that they seem to focus on other objectives, probably following a series of steps. These steps might seem contradictory: first nationalism, then globalism, but they wouldn't be able to push globalisation previous to the 1990's, no one would fall for it.

There is also no doubt about the fact that they are targeting the youth, who have been conveniently stripped out of any sensibilities, dumbed down, and granted an enormous decision and acquisition power.



You see, I don't agree with those who think Star Wars is part of the NWO agenda; at least the first trilogy (maybe I'm not connecting the dots). At the contrary, I think that Star Wars promotes the uprising and the revolution against the system:

The plot is about some revels that fight against an established totalitarian empire.
The heroes are: a poor farmer, a pair of contrabandists, a princess on exile, and 2 robots that don't seem to conform to their programming and specifications.
The message: the dark side is faster and easier, but not necessarily more powerful.
The result: it doesn't matter if you are the small guy, you can beat the system if you fight for what is fair and right.


I don't know, am I just being naive?

No, maybe you're right I think the more I look at it maybe I was being a bit too blanket punishment on the first three as a whole.

ROFTJ was maybe my least favourite of the three. The other 3 (newer ones) I didn't rate that much. Less intense and powerful, plus it seemed very surface level too.
But movies did start to shift from small budget sci-fi / action and so on to bigger ones. The trend was set by star wars. Indeed, after star wars success I think more violent films were more shunned than they used to be by the mainstream.
Sorta like 'oh that's not nice to watch, it must be a bad movie.'

[ytch]

No! No! DOESN'T exist! Never happened! I don't even know what you're talking about!

:D
Exactly, what prequel are you talking about?
I just remember a load of horsedung CGI piece of XXXX,
and it seemed some of the names of characters were somehow similiar.
I hope they get sued for that...

But a Star Wars Prequel?
That would be awsome, I guess...:D

Love and larks

[flickflack]

One movie that comes to my mind by reading this thread is the Sci-Fi movie Equilibrium, where people are not supposed to even have or show feelings. Because it was believed that feelings starts wars and fighting... There is a lot of rage/anger in it though.

[flyermay]

One movie that comes to my mind by reading this thread is the Sci-Fi movie Equilibrium, where people are not supposed to even have or show feelings. Because it was believed that feelings starts wars and fighting... There is a lot of rage/anger in it though.

That's a really good example. I think that the message of that movie is particularly sad, as it seems to be where we are heading to: a insensibilised totalitarian society where everyone has been brainwashed or killed. Humans are simply not meant to live like ants or bees.

[ludovico tec]

I keep seeing this bloody poster everywhere here in the Midlands
http://www.tbatheatres.com/images/Posters/monsters_vs_aliens.jpg
Anyone else see the symbolism?

[flyermay]

I keep seeing this bloody poster everywhere here in the Midlands
http://www.tbatheatres.com/images/Posters/monsters_vs_aliens.jpg
Anyone else see the symbolism?

You mean, apart from the all seeing eye,
and the aliens and mosters saving us? ;)

Didn't saw that one though (doesn't look like my type of movie)

[ludovico tec]

You mean, apart from the all seeing eye? ;)

Who's going to save us.. the nwo ;) ?

The victory hand gestures.. and the guy just happens to be called..

http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/monsters-v-aliens-bob.jpg

The magic name

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58879

[flyermay]

Who's going to save us.. the nwo ;) ?

The victory hand gestures.. and the guy just happens to be called..

http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/monsters-v-aliens-bob.jpg

The magic name

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58879

Nothing better than brainwashing a fresh little kid... They must be quite proud of themselves.

[white horse]

Logan's Run - totalitarian society where peope are 'exterminated' at 31. Central computer; total population and information control.

Brazil - the film 1984 should have been; an Orwellian nightmare all the better cos most people don't realise it is a nightmare; total population and information control.

Zardoz - Totalitarian society where the PTB are hiding the truth from the masses and are manipulating behaviours patterns; total population and information control.

[white horse]

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0004/4199/brand.gif

I just 'noticed' this the other night.

The all seeing eye in Monsters inc.

So why this eye, Mikey has one eye? Yes but his eye is round and playful, if this logo is refering to the movie, why not use the 'o' in 'Monsters' instead which actually looks like Mikey's eye?

These people spend millions on every pixel of image - why would they make a 'mistake' liek this? Nowhere in this movie is there a one eye like this...

M for... (Media/Masons/Moloch...? etc etc etc)

[flyermay]

I just remembered two key movies:

Carpenter's "They live"
And the tv series "V"


Were they prophetic of what was to come, an advice of what is happening, or getting our minds used to the idea?

[flickflack]

That's a really good example. I think that the message of that movie is particularly sad, as it seems to be where we are heading to: a insensibilised totalitarian society where everyone has been brainwashed or killed. Humans are simply not meant to live like ants or bees.

If you like movies like "Equilibrium", I recommend to check out movies in the CyberPunk genre. Cyberpunk is a sub-genre in Sci-Fi, and "Equilibrium" can be called cyberpunk too, although it's not a big hit in the cyberpunk genre.

eXistenZ is definately a big hit in cyberpunk. In cyberpunk, it's often that some few fight the big systems or governments. Movies mentioned here like "Gattaca" and "Freejack" fits right in the cyperbunk genre too.

[flyermay]

If you like movies like "Equilibrium", I recommend to check out movies in the CyberPunk genre. Cyberpunk is a sub-genre in Sci-Fi, and "Equilibrium" can be called cyberpunk too, although it's not a big hit in the cyberpunk genre.

eXistenZ is definately a big hit in cyberpunk. In cyberpunk, it's often that some few fight the big systems or governments. Movies mentioned here like "Gattaca" and "Freejack" fits right in the cyperbunk genre too.

I'm not much into that genre, but I saw these 2 that might fit the criteria: "Ultraviolet" and "Æon Flux" (not my cup of tee though). I pretty sure I also saw Gattaca time ago, but not eXistenZ or Freejack. Let's see if I can find them this weekend.

[flyermay]

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0004/4199/brand.gif

I just 'noticed' this the other night.

The all seeing eye in Monsters inc.

So why this eye, Mikey has one eye? Yes but his eye is round and playful, if this logo is refering to the movie, why not use the 'o' in 'Monsters' instead which actually looks like Mikey's eye?

These people spend millions on every pixel of image - why would they make a 'mistake' liek this? Nowhere in this movie is there a one eye like this...

M for... (Media/Masons/Moloch...? etc etc etc)

I just saw the movie, only for curiosity. And what did I found on it: no less than the president of the United States doing his famous salute (in stereo)!!!

Isn't it nice that our children get used to see these things, so that they don't question the reasons?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=333&pictureid=3002

[flickflack]

I'm not much into that genre, but I saw these 2 that might fit the criteria: "Ultraviolet" and "Æon Flux" (not my cup of tee though). I pretty sure I also saw Gattaca time ago, but not eXistenZ or Freejack. Let's see if I can find them this weekend.

Yes, "Ultraviolet" and "Aeon Flux" are definately in the cyberpunk genre. I was somewhat disappointed with "Aeon Flux" because I so wanted to see it, and when I saw it I thought it was just okay.

[januspolanski]

Equilibrium is an excellent film. Very underated. Great scene when he kills like 10 police to save his puppy.

[flyermay]

Yes, "Ultraviolet" and "Aeon Flux" are definately in the cyberpunk genre. I was somewhat disappointed with "Aeon Flux" because I so wanted to see it, and when I saw it I thought it was just okay.

I didn't like any of those 2: "Ultraviolet" and "Aeon Flux".

Equilibrium is an excellent film. Very underated. Great scene when he kills like 10 police to save his puppy.

But I saw nothing wrong with Equilibrium, and I agree it's been unfairly underated.

[merlincove]

2001 had a pretty big 'the aliens are out there and they helped create mankind' thing going on...

and i think someone already mentioned 'They Live' and V...

I am Legend had some fairly worrying moments in too.

i always felt that equilibrium was a little over the top.

And star wars is just a fantasy..... :rolleyes:

Was there a film caled contact with jodie foster in it?

[flyermay]

2001 had a pretty big 'the aliens are out there and they helped create mankind' thing going on...

True

and i think someone already mentioned 'They Live' and V...

I

And star wars is just a fantasy..... :rolleyes:

Aren't they all ;)

Was there a film caled contact with jodie foster in it?

Yes

Talking about 2001, can anyone explain what was the end all about. I remember being frustrated with it when I saw it.

[merlincove]

True


Quote:
Originally Posted by merlincove
and i think someone already mentioned 'They Live' and V...

I

Talking about 2001, can anyone explain what was the end all about. I remember being frustrated with it when I saw it.

Respect :-)

2001 beat the heck outa me - in fact 5 minutes from the end i was strongly considering switchin it off because it was so frustrating and seemed like it was just going into more and more inanity :cool:

[flyermay]

Respect :-)

2001 beat the heck outa me - in fact 5 minutes from the end i was strongly considering switchin it off because it was so frustrating and seemed like it was just going into more and more inanity :cool:

Exactly, once the guy leaves the ship in the capsule and starts seeing colour lights I get lost. And all the sudden an unborn baby approaches the earth. Was he born again?

[merlincove]

it was a big unborn baby though....

i thought that it was the consciosness of a planet, maybe even planet x / nibiru?

waiting to see 2010, but worried that it will be more of the same.

i felt that the first twenty mins of 2001 was a brilliant piece of scinematpography, charting the birth of man from ape to wielder of weapons. But then after watching the entire film, i felt like wielding a weapon lol :rolleyes:

[flyermay]

waiting to see 2010, but worried that it will be more of the same.

i felt that the first twenty mins of 2001 was a brilliant piece of scinematpography, charting the birth of man from ape to wielder of weapons. But then after watching the entire film, i felt like wielding a weapon lol :rolleyes:

Yes, 2010 is more of the same, but much, much worst. 2001 is a classic that has no match in the genre. There's nothing bad about it (except for the end, but that's probably because I didn't get it).

[merlincove]

2010 on ebay then :rolleyes:

[gripit]

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0004/4199/brand.gif

I just 'noticed' this the other night.

The all seeing eye in Monsters inc.

So why this eye, Mikey has one eye? Yes but his eye is round and playful, if this logo is refering to the movie, why not use the 'o' in 'Monsters' instead which actually looks like Mikey's eye?

These people spend millions on every pixel of image - why would they make a 'mistake' liek this? Nowhere in this movie is there a one eye like this...

M for... (Media/Masons/Moloch...? etc etc etc)

The plot of the movie is that the Monsters access a dimensional door to childrens' bedrooms throughout the world and harvest their screams for energy! Now why does that sound familiar? :eek:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3038

[merlincove]

And isn't one of the main baddies a lizard that can change its appearance?

And the boss man who has an alterior motive to line his own pocket.

Hmm, sneaky

[gripit]

And isn't one of the main baddies a lizard that can change its appearance?

And the boss man who has an alterior motive to line his own pocket.

Hmm, sneaky

the Chameleon, who can cloak himself, Randall Boggs, voice by Steve Buscemi.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3039

and James Waternoose (James Coburn), the spider thingamabob, depicted here with a canister of energy charged from scaring the bejesus out of little children!..."There's nothing more toxic or deadly than a human child. A single touch could kill you. Leave a door open, and one can walk right into this factory; right into the monster world."

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3040

[gripit]

Demolition Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/), made in 1993! It's the New World Order, bang on! Extremely funny movie, Stallone was great, Sandra Bullock was hilarious, so was Benjamen Brat and Dennis Leary.

Note* Director Marco Brambilla: It was his first and last film, very strange.

Basic plot: It's 2032, a psycho killer (Wesley Snipes) is let out of 'cryo-prison' to kill the underground freedom leader of a 'group of savages and thieves' (Dennis Leary) and to start a revolution so the nutball leader can have complete control. Stallone is 'thawed out' to capture Snipes.

-population is micro-chipped
-cashless society
-no more guns
-meat, salt, cheese, good food in general, smoking, drinking; all banned
-kissing, sex, physical contact; banned
-children are produced from a lab where genetics can be purified.
-your every move and word is video taped and recorded.
-swearing is a fine, a ticket comes out of a machine "you have been fined one credit"
-music is banned. the only thing on the radio are old commercials "land of the jolly green giant", etc. lol.
-all the restaurants are Taco Bell (Pizza Hut in some foreign markets)
-Schwarzenegger is the former president (61st amendment to the constitution to allow foreign born to be prez). Isn't that the current case as well?! Obama born in Kenya? lol
-etc etc

Dennis Leary line: You see, according to Cocteau's plan I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener". :D