Watch this short video- very important

[lostinstrangeworld]

The New World Order is Here! - YouTube

quote:"And he causes small and great, rich and poor, free and bond
to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead
so no-one can buy and sell
unless they have this mark or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name…his number is 666," - Revelation 13:18

That "mark" is simply a chip!

:eek:

[sidewinder]

Zeitgeist is a great movie, I've watched it 2 times already. But 99% op the people either dismiss the evidence as conspiracy (and thus 'fake'), or they don't know about it at all. This off course, is just in my opinion and experience.

[lookfar]

Hi lostinstrangworld & welcome to the forum :)

That was a good vid, thanks for sharing.

[anoninnyc]

great video. welcome.

[dhallett]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVMpo

quote:"And he causes small and great, rich and poor, free and bond
to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead
so no-one can buy and sell
unless they have this mark or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name…his number is 666," - Revelation 13:18

That "mark" is simply a chip!

:eek:

I agree. Great video, I've posted a link to it on my Facebook page. I know, then THEY know about me, but they know everything anyway. There's only one way to 'fight' back, and that's with Infinite LOVE.

This video helps me: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[fccool]

The way I see it... it could be the biggest set up in the history of humankind. Just like Icke said... problem, reaction, solution. Right now they are creating the biggest problems people will soon discover and they practically feed you with information about these.

1) Media openly lies. Most people are not as stupid as you think. If you ask if media misrepresents the stories more than 5 out of 10 will probably answer yes. If you ask them if they believe that govrnment lies to them... you will probably get 7 out of 10 answer "yes".

2) There is so much information coming out all of a sudden that it is unbelievable. You can not turn around without hearing about it. NWO this 911 that, Iraq was a lie, UFOs exist... And of course it is good that people are realizing what is going on, but I can't help but ask myself. Are we being set up?

The economy of the world right now is being intentionally demolished as all of this coming out. When it all comes down crashing the people will start asking questions. And the truth movement are somebody who has "the answers". But naturally the truth movement people are not very well educated ones. These are somebody who scraped some evidence off the surface and do not want to dig deeper. There are not real solutions, there's only a reaction. Reaction is what the elites want. They want blind reaction. No thinking involved... the answers are spoon fed to you on a lilver platter. It's microchip... refuse microchip.... microchipped population is the plan...

Why do you think Rockafeller told that to Russo. He would be an idiot not to think that he could blow the wistle. He told Russo so he would blow the wistle IMO. So while we are waiting to resist the evil chip they could plan something far more sinister in the background and we would be ok with it as long as it is not a chip.

Mark of the Beast has very little to do with a chip or technology for that matter. If you understand Biblical allegory... the the mark that was in the foreheads was always supposed to be some kind of knowledge. Mark in the forehead IS knowledge. The mark is SYMBOLIC.

Exodus 3:16
And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the LORD brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand.


Deudoronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. [a] 5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads

Ibid 6:9
Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.


I love how people take 1 verse out of the book they know absolutely nothing about and use it as a substantial proof of something. Revelation is extremely complex for a reason. If everybody could read a sentence and understand it then we would not be in such a predicament. But I'll give you a crash course on what it is saying and not saying. Unfortunatly you can't just read Revelation by itself. It would not make much sense. To really understand what it going on here as far as the Beasts and who these are we'd have to go back to the book of Daniel. Specifically Daniel 7.

1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying on his bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream.
2 Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. 3 Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea.

4 "The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it.

5 "And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, 'Get up and eat your fill of flesh!'

6 "After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.

7 "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.

8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.



So daniel has this dream and it is then explained to him what the dream means (in the dream too :)).

17 'The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. 18 But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.'
19 "Then I wanted to know the true meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. 21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

23 "He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.


So we see that in Biblical prophetic languages the beasts are ALWAYS kingdoms and not individuals. It's pretty interesting how I look back and see how I did not believe this "shit" untill I came to read the book of Daniel. I love history. And history has a weird way of revealing itself. Pretty much everything that Daniel saw in a vision came just like it was said.

1st Beast - was like a lion with wings of an eagle and head of man. And since this was said to be the first Major kingdom on earth it is pretty easy to recognize. The symbol of the Babylon is exactly as described. Check it out for yourself :
http://www.crystalinks.com/wingedlionbabylon.jpg

2nd beast - A bear ( a pretty strong empire) . The consequent kingdom that apears after Babylon are Medo-Persians. They pretty much take over the kingdom... but then it is taken ove by another one. that looks like a leopard.

3rd beast - a leopard with 4 heads and wings. Just so happens that the empire that comes to topple the medo-persia are Greeks with Alexander the great. Just so happens that Alexander the great lets his 4 generals rule over the territories and just so happens that Greeks for some reason are obsessed with riding leopards :).

http://www.lib.washington.edu/subject/history/bi/hstam403/pella.jpg

But then a different beast surfaces and it takes over the whole known world. It was different from the other four. It trampled the others to the ground and had ten horns (three of which were plucked). So by the times of "Christian" Emperor Constantine you have 10 regions of the Roman Empire which pretty much swollowed up entire Europe and controlled the other surrounding free countries by proxy. It was a trully emence Empire. But it went down under and something else took over.

While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.

So we have 3 horns (regions) removed and one smaller one shows up that eventually grows immence. You don't have to go to far to recognize the Resurected Roman Empire under papacy. Which in fact claimed to be Christian but killed MILLIONS of christians throughout the history. Probably more people than Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Bush and whoever you want to put here... combined. Through Newly established order of Jesuits it rulled the world ever since. Today polititians bow down to Pope as the world's spiritual leader.


Now let's look at That infamous Revelation 13.


And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard ( culture of Greeks) , but had feet like those of a bear (strength Medo Persians) and a mouth like that of a lion (religion of the Babylon). The dragon (Satan) gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?

So you can see that the Beast of revelation is the same one as the 4th beast of Daniel.

To understand what sea represents we don't have to go far:

Revelation 17:15
Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages"


So the Beast coming out of the sea meaning that it is a kingdom coming out of the pretty dencely populated area...

Now let's get going. The opposite of the sea is land. The opposite of populated is not populated :). Why am I saying that? Because...



11Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. 12He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. 14Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

So what you have here is another kingdom coming out of the ground (fairly undiscovered and unpopulated area) and it is connected to Rome and it becomes immencely powerful. Did somebody say USA? Yes, USA would be a good guess. What is the "Image of the Beast" that the founders of the USA set up? Well, the Image is a disguised copy of the Roman "Republic" and Roman "Christianity" . The protestant religion with all of its denominations is NOT Christianity. It's simply an Image of the Roman Catholic Church. So these people will be the primary driving force towards the One World Religion. "Christianity" as it exists today is a veiled SUN WORSHIP, make no dillusions about it. Biblically the day of Christian worship was always the 7th day. This is the day that commemorates the creation Biblically. Hence why it was such a big deal for Jews to rest on 7th day. Constantine wanted to unite rome under one religious order... he though to use Christianity, but the problem was many pagans were refusing to convert. So what he fused these religions together. He simply shifted all of the Pagan holy days to be renamed and to be selebrated as Christian. He made all of the greek gods to become Christian saints. So the conversion became muich easier. Everybody who refused to conform were pretty much exterminated.

Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints,

To understand the issue of 666 you have to understand what the above text is all about. The above is describing the false religion riding on top of the Political power. Biblical prophesy writers are always alluding to characters in the past to drive the point home. So who is the whore of Babylon after whom the religious system of this whole known world originated after. Well... it is somebody named Semiramis (whose statue is welcoming American visitors). She was a temple prostitute. She was a whore. She instituted system of what we come to know as Astrology. Belief that the stars dictate the destiny of people. The most widespread belief and religion today. It's universal. Make no mistake about it, especially those of you who praise astrology, it was used to enslave people ages upon ages. These people worshipped the SUN as the primary god. All of their religion was built around worshiping the sun. The issue around the tower of babel and God confusing the languages was essentially that. It makes a pretty good explanation as far as how major world religions essentially worship the same things. Mother, Sun and Father. The tower of Babel was built under this one world religion and since then the satanic priests worked pretty hard to get it back.

So what is that misterious number 666? These people were pretty meticulous to create systems and calendars. Zodiac is pretty common around the world. It is pretty much a calendar system that is based around earth rotation around the sun. Naturally we have 12 periods which are divided into 3 and a god asigned to oversee those (signs of the Zodiac). So we have 36 chambers. Babylonians assigned numbers 1-36 to these. The sum of all of the numbers was the number of the supreme god of the sun. Which was in fact 666. Those people even made these into amulets to wear around the neck. 6x6 tablets with all of the rows and colums adding up to 111. Ever played sudoku?

http://www.calendersign.com/images/soquadr.JPG

The writer of revelation is telling you to calculate the number of the Beast. He would not have dreamed you doing it using English alphanumerics, or even Latin or Hebrew alphanumerics. So for those fans obsessing over the calculation of alphanumerics - it's much simpler. Just take a look back in time. 666 calculated as the number of the Sun. Essentially today it is a number of the "Christianity" and their sun worshiping rituals. Almost every major Christian holyday is connected to sun worship in one way or another. Weekly Sunday, Yearly Christmas,


So the irony is that the "Christians" who claim to go against the mark of the Beast will be its enforcers. They do not read what they claim to believe themselves. Christianity was never about forcing beliefs on somebody. It was never about control. Yet the powers that be made it a tool for control masses and still use the "Mark of The Beast" tactics to make you think it's going to be something to look forward to. Something that is physical that you will know is coming and something you can taste smell or touch. There are hundreds of these being pushed forward. The mark is a microchip, the mark is a tatoo, it's a social security number.

I can tell you what that mark is.

Here's the mark of God:

Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

As you can see, the mark of God was not physical. It's a belief system. Words of advice in your mind (symbolically forehead) that you remember and carry out through your actions (symbolically right hand). So the Mark of the Beast basically is similar system that will state that it is a god and that you should believe what they say and carry it out in action or suffer consequences. It will be one world under one economy and one religion. And it will sound so good that most of the population of the world will fall for it.

So what you are seeing right now is the enormous set up to carry out that plan. Think about... almost all of the Evangelical Denominations (including Catholics) believe and state that mark of the beast will be a microchip or some kind of tatoo. That's 2++ billion of people. Plus you can add to that much of the agnostics and Muslims who believe the same thing and you have a pretty good resistance crowd. And believe you me, those conservatives have guns to oppose the microchip. They will not give up the guns easily.

But take this scenario:

Economy crashes, several terrosist atacks around the world carried out, then major pandemic is released. Governments mandate microchipping for safety. People all over the world are praing for devine help AND all of a sudden "Jesus" comes back. He performs incredible miracles to really prove that he is Jesus and tells that the world should unite under one roof to praise him and restore order. All of the unbelievers should be dealt with and killed. The elites that rule this world have the means and I believe the desire to make this happen. And it looks like the world it rolling towards that nightmarish state of events. But let's hope that I'm wrong....

[ashyr]

nice post. that square says alot

[tejas]

Nice post. Makes a lot of sense, I always wondered what the NWO planned to do with the million+ christians and million+ muslims who knew about this 'mark/chip'.

Its a very possible outcome that they will be part of enforcing the conspiracy.
A conspiracy within a conspiracy!

I also read somewhere that the mark of the beast was meant to be calculated, and it is not acutally 666 but 1480 or something similar, which is infact the name of "Jesus Christ" in greek. I.e the mark of the 'beast's name is Jesus.

[fccool]

Nice post. Makes a lot of sense, I always wondered what the NWO planned to do with the million+ christians and million+ muslims who knew about this 'mark/chip'.

Its a very possible outcome that they will be part of enforcing the conspiracy.
A conspiracy within a conspiracy!

I also read somewhere that the mark of the beast was meant to be calculated, and it is not acutally 666 but 1480 or something similar, which is infact the name of "Jesus Christ" in greek. I.e the mark of the 'beast's name is Jesus.

Very few of the earliest manustcripts give number 606. But the majority is consentually give 666 as the number. The NWO's primary religion is Astrology, believe it or not. That's what the New Age movement is all about. The elites want you to believe that we are all a part of one Universal conciousness. They want to erase individuality and individual mind set. I beleieve that originally humans were created as individuals. It makes more sence to me rather than believing that we are all a one giant ball of energy and we are all concentually dreaming that we are individuals. In essence that's the belief of the New Age that Icke is pushing. If you ask him if it would be a good Idea to unite under one roof to make what he believes possible.... I wonder what his answer would be.

All of the religions of the world are awating some kind of Christ to come back to earth and rule. "Christians" beleieve that Jesus will come back and rule on Earth for a 1000 years. Muslim also believe that Jesus will return and await his coming. The New Agers and Buddist are waiting for Matreya who will bring peace. Through misinterpretation of the Bible they are all lead to Believe that it will be the same person and I believe that the NWO will make this happen.

When Jesus was first born it was foretold by prophets of old. By the way his name is not Jesus. There are no such thing as Jesus anywhere. Yeshua is the only name that we find in the Bible. It was first mistranslated into greek to be Lesous (pronounced ee-ai-sus) and then once again mistranslated into latin to be yesus. Latin y has both j and y sound, and when translated into English it became Jesus, which sounds not even close to Yeshua (which means salvation).... word Jesus has no meaning.

Nevertheless Jews expected Yeshua to be a great king who came and set them free from roman rule and took over the world which he then ruled through Israel by proxy. Instead they got a carpenter who went around telling others to be nicer to people while healing them and criticizing the elites who used religion for control and profit. So the elites killed him as foretold.

Now, the same thing happend. We see the pictures of Jesus in every church and many of the Hollywood movies. The followers of Jesus (Yeshua) never painted any images of him because of the 2nd commandment which they took seriously. As soon as you paint god ... the image becomes the object of worship. So now... if I show you a picture of somebody with long hair, a beard, and wearing a robe... and ask you who do you think it is. I think 90% of people will say it is Jesus. Why is it? We are conditioned to accept a certain image in our mind.
According to the bible... Yeshua was not very pleasant in apearance, yet people crowded around him because he would not reject anybody. Today's christians segregate in churches and will only come out to convert you and make you go to the church to be one of them. Yeshua never commanded such thing. His idea of conversion was changing the way you are looking at this world. Changing the way you are thinking. Making people more important than a piece of paper or a heap of metal shaped into a car.

So, as you can see. Christianity today is veeeery different from what Bible or Jesus (yeshya) really taught. His word were twisted to gain control of the population and supress any idea of individual freedom.

So no, the name of Jesus has nothing to do with 666. People don't even know what his real name is. Devouted christians.... they have no clue. They have an image in their minds and that image is there for a reason.

Mark of the beast, I believe, is this system of false belief that people has embraced, or will be forced to embrace in the future. It will be in your forehead (as knowledge that you accept) and in your right hand (as an action that you do based on that knowledge). The monetary system will be abolished. And something new instituted that will require you to have a certain set of beliefs in order to have a transaction or a salary. We are not too far from it. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but when I see It .... I think and hope to recognize it.

[space lizard]

so what the deal, how to we stay sane, what to believe about reality now.

David Ickes information has brought me to a point where I no loger believe in anything except myself.

what else can I believe in.

[klinker]

what else can I believe in.

How about infinite love? I've felt it a few times since waking up so I know I have touched it but it's a journey. Things make so much more sense now. The fear of insanity is nothing more than fear itself and you can choose to turn your back on it. Do not be afraid.

[fccool]

The whole idea that is being passed around as "infinite love" is a great idea. The problem is that it is not defined. It is just an abstract thought. Love means different things to different people. The reason that this world is in a heap of mess IS LOVE. Misplaced love. Love of something that should not be loved. Love is not a feeling you feel, and it is not something that you do. Love is an idea. A state of mind that bring about positive things. There are so many atrocities commited under disguise of love, that it's hard to imagine what love really is. But Bible does define what love is if you read carefully here.

1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

The above is the true love. Unfortunatly you will not hear this concept anywhere. And even if you hear it you will not see it in practice.

[tejas]

The whole idea that is being passed around as "infinite love" is a great idea. The problem is that it is not defined. It is just an abstract thought. Love means different things to different people. The reason that this world is in a heap of mess IS LOVE. Misplaced love. Love of something that should not be loved. Love is not a feeling you feel, and it is not something that you do. Love is an idea. A state of mind that bring about positive things. There are so many atrocities commited under disguise of love, that it's hard to imagine what love really is. But Bible does define what love is if you read carefully here.

1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

The above is the true love. Unfortunatly you will not hear this concept anywhere. And even if you hear it you will not see it in practice.


MAy i Ask, are you are christian?
I used to be one untill I studied bible history and realised it was another construct created by man. Not to belittle your beliefs of couse, that is just my opinion.

I would also disagree with your above statement. I dont think real 'Love' as the infinite love that Icke explains, can be defined with those words, I think it is something else.

What most people describe as 'love' is merely an expanded altruistic survival drive of the human species.