Interview with an EX Vampire

[krakhead]

Anyone seen this? Looks interesting - currently downloading it....

Vampires are REAL! Forbidden Knowledge, Occult Rituals, Secret Priesthoods, Spells, Luciferian Initiation, Illuminism, Ceremonial Magick, Vampirism. This was his world : Adept, Occultist, Satanic Priest, Black Magician, Vampire. Lured into the occult with the quest for knowledge, this nine hour video chronicles the life of an adept in service to the darkest powers of planet earth until saved from a horrible fate. Discover the preparation, initiation and the "bringing over" of the initiate into the world of true vampirism. The other-worldly initiation by a being of immense power that claimed him for its own. The reality of vampires and werewolves and the positions they hold in the dark world of the occult. The secret priesthood that helped him survive. The lust and hunger of the true vampire and how it destroys its victims. And much, more more! Containing secret, first-hand information that has never before been revealed to the public
This is a true story. Bill Schoebelen has been high up in the hierarchy of almost EVERY prominent secret society, and been deeply involved in the darkest of the darkest of the occult. He once was a true Satanist and a REAL vampire, totally addicted to blood, until he managed to break out about 20 years ago. This is a 9 hour interview and you will not be able to stop watching it. I intended to watch one DVD per night, but couldn't stop until I had watched 6 of them in a row. The night after that I watched the last 3. Amazing guy with astonishing information!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7672003660947890622
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2444187257627429016

[krakhead]

http://www.abduct.com/books/b82.php

DVD Review: Interview with an Ex-Vampire

DVD Claims Satanic Connection to Alien Abductions


This is a true story. Bill Schoebelen has been high up in the hierarchy of almost EVERY prominent secret society, and been deeply involved in the darkest of the darkest of the occult. He once was a true Satanist and a REAL vampire, totally addicted to blood, until he managed to break out about 20 years ago.

This is a 9 hour interview and you will not be able to stop watching it. I intended to watch one DVD per night, but couldn't stop until I had watched 6 of them in a row. The night after that I watched the last 3. Amazing guy with astonishing information!

This fascinating 9 disk set of DVDs is about Bill Schnoebelen, his work, and his world. It would seem that he has lead a pretty interesting life as apparently he was involved in ultra secret levels of Free Masonry, The Church of Satan, both black and white magic, and at one point in time he was a vampire – not, as the website for this release claims 'people who pretend to be vampires by drinking blood' but a real vampire with powers.

After all, evil is fascinating to most of us and the chance to hear from someone who has been there, done that and lived to tell the tale should make for a very interesting session, and so Bill Schnoebelen sits down in front of a camera and speaks about his experiences and his life.

The first DVD explains how Schnoebelen was raised Catholic and then in his youth he became hungry for knowledge, specifically of the spiritual kind. He was looking for that something, trying to find himself and as such, he became involved in white magick, then black magick, ultimately ending up in Free Masonry and then in the service of the Church of Satan.

Schnoebelen gives us a vague explanation of how that happened. He then explains how vampires and werewolves really do exist, how they are not as uncommon as one might think.

One of the shocking revelations of the DVD is that Dante's movie The Howling supposedly employed an actual lycanthrope to transform on camera for that film. This is one of many bizarre revelations by Schnoebelen.

Bill Schnoebelen reveals to us that thankfully he was saved, found Jesus, and now operates With One Accord Ministries where he specializes in helping set people free from the clutches of the devil.

According to Schnoebelen who has apparently seen over one hundred UFOs and has been studying them for over forty years, Satan is using UFO's to do his evil work. – This explains how The Relfes came on board to direct and host this interview – and about government conspiracies, biological warfare, and naturalist health aids.

The interview with Schnoebelen is conducted by an ordained minister who has supposedly been involved with the Mormons, The Freemasons, and the Church of Satan, sometimes all at the same time.

Bill Schnoebelen speaks with authority in the occult, biological warfare, clandestine societies, government conspiracies, UFOs and alien abduction, and also became a certified natural health professional and natural herbologist.

The sheer weirdness of the material and of Bill Schnoebelen in general make it worth a look to those interested in the material. There is plenty of material if you are into the supernatural but be advised Bill Schnoebelen has no qualms about presenting his opinions as facts.

Oh dear..... :rolleyes:

Still, worth a watch I think :)

[brainfreeze]

Is there a way to bookmark topics we want to come back to?

I want to watch this when I have time over the weekend. I'll find this thread again by viewing my last posts, but is there another way to bookmark future threads?

[krakhead]

You can click on 'thread tools' then 'subscribe to thread' - but there's no need now as you've posted on here - automatically subscribes you! :D

[brainfreeze]

Yo can click on 'thread tools' then 'subscribe to thread' - but there's no need now as you've posted on here - automatically subscribes you! :D


Cheers KH. I'll do just that next time round, if I can find the thread tools! Oops, got it :)

[thelyran]

...there is a torrent for it on Piratebay...d/l it last week,2.1 gig over 4 days
straight,but got it.Seen the first 2,just finding time for the other 7...
The first two episodes,are very similar to what he discusses at the Prophecy
Club,it's still good...but hoping,for more of the intricate technocalities of
occult vampirism.If something good comes up,I'll post findings.

[hobo]

Bookmarking this for later...:)

[jp13]

and bookmarking

[turquoisefire777]

schnoebelen knows what he's talking about. it's worth a watch.

[themime]

I watched this a while back at the same time as I watch that ex-FBI guy video talking about child abuse.

Good watching.

[keystone]

schnoebelen knows what he's talking about. it's worth a watch.It's no coincidence that his initials are BS. He's an out and out fraud!

Cheers

[hobo]

It's no coincidence that his initials are BS. He's an out and out fraud!

Cheers

Unsubstantiated and unproductive statements like yours are beginning to bore me on this forum.
Maybe your avatar is no coincidence either...:rolleyes:

[alithinos]

This man isn't and either wasn't a vampire.
A mancer yes,a satanist yes,an occultist yes,but not a vampire.
Drinking blood doesn't make you a vampire.
And vampires are not like you see them in most Hollywood movies..
They are not just humans with long teeth that can climb up a wall.
If we are interested to find some truth,we should look to real reports of people that said they saw vampires.
There were many reports for them during the middle ages at the places of Serbia,Romania,Greece and Yugoslavia..
Vampirism according to the Church's point of view back then was a plausible situation.
Every human has a soul <ghost> that normaly goes to heaven and waits for the final judjement when someone passes away.
But there is a possibility that if a person was tricked by satan and during it's life did many sins,that it's soul could not fly to heaven,and get trapped to Earth.
If that soul remains in Earth but doesn't reenter a body is what we call a "ghost".
But at ever rarer situations a soul might reenter the body and reanimate it,and this is called a "vampire".
Actually back then zombies and vampires were considered the same thing.
Trapped souls become mean against living people because they are forced to watch them live while they cannot.
That's why they try to harm them.

[keystone]

Unsubstantiated and unproductive statements like yours are beginning to bore me on this forum.Put me on ignore then. BS is full of BS. You want a list? - just do some research on him.

Maybe your avatar is no coincidence either...:rolleyes:Unsubstantiated and unproductive statements like this are beginning to bore me on this forum. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Cheers

[brainfreeze]

This man isn't and either wasn't a vampire.
A mancer yes,a satanist yes,an occultist yes,but not a vampire.
Drinking blood doesn't make you a vampire.
And vampires are not like you see them in most Hollywood movies..
They are not just humans with long teeth that can climb up a wall.
If we are interested to find some truth,we should look to real reports of people that said they saw vampires.
There were many reports for them during the middle ages at the places of Serbia,Romania,Greece and Yugoslavia..
Vampirism according to the Church's point of view back then was a plausible situation.
Every human has a soul <ghost> that normaly goes to heaven and waits for the final judjement when someone passes away.
But there is a possibility that if a person was tricked by satan and during it's life did many sins,that it's soul could not fly to heaven,and get trapped to Earth.
If that soul remains in Earth but doesn't reenter a body is what we call a "ghost".
But at ever rarer situations a soul might reenter the body and reanimate it,and this is called a "vampire".
Actually back then zombies and vampires were considered the same thing.
Trapped souls become mean against living people because they are forced to watch them live while they cannot.
That's why they try to harm them.

I heard that vampirism was the misunderstanding of people with porphyria. The red blood cells break down and iron and vitim B a desperately needed. Some people with porphyria develop a taste for blood but it is usually their own, from a scratch or a nick. And porphyrics have a sensitivity to light and can't eat garlic hence the myth that it's the best way to ward them off.

[alithinos]

I heard that vampirism was the misunderstanding of people with porphyria. The red blood cells break down and iron and vitim B a desperately needed. Some people with porphyria develop a taste for blood but it is usually their own, from a scratch or a nick. And porphyrics have a sensitivity to light and can't eat garlic hence the myth that it's the best way to ward them off.

It would be nice if it was as simple..
But what for all those stories of people that died and then they saw them walking on the streets ??:confused:

[brainfreeze]

It would be nice if it was as simple..
But what for all those stories of people that died and then they saw them walking on the streets ??:confused:

To be honest I've not really look into vampirism at all. I related what my doctor told me when I was diagnosed and then I looked it up.

As for the sightings? I always thought they were urban myths, kinda like Draculla and seeing Elvis.

[skyver]

It's no coincidence that his initials are BS. He's an out and out fraud!

Cheers

I totally agree! I've got a very open mind but this guy is pushing it! There is quite a few people out there like him & I don't know what their motives are but he is talking crap! Another person who I think is a bullshitter is Clifford Stone.

[azaziel01]

That Bill Schoebelen talks rubbish

I concur Keystone

[turquoisefire777]

It's no coincidence that his initials are BS. He's an out and out fraud!

Cheers

i see. you can prove he is a fraud then?

tell me your main points.

[keystone]

i see. you can prove he is a fraud then?

tell me your main points.Look at the timeline he claims for his memberships of various organisations. He finds Jesus in 1984 when he is a Mormon but at the same time claims to have been a Wiccan. Was he both at exactly the same time?

He claims his studies enabled him to have "a comprehensive knowledge of occult and esoteric (hidden, high-level) Masonry and ceremonial magik." But then if he had discovered all these wicked things about Freemasonry he talked about later why did he then go on to join the organisation? Then his meteoric rise to a very high degree level plus admission to Illuminati status in the space of 8 or 9 years is stretching the imagination.

It seems he became a Freemason at the same time that he was a member of the Church Of Satan. The two are incompatible - so either he lied or was confused.

and by 2007 he's also a vampire.

ts not credible. I call him a fraud.

Cheers

[kblood]

Look at the timeline he claims for his memberships of various organisations. He finds Jesus in 1984 when he is a Mormon but at the same time claims to have been a Wiccan. Was he both at exactly the same time?

He claims his studies enabled him to have "a comprehensive knowledge of occult and esoteric (hidden, high-level) Masonry and ceremonial magik." But then if he had discovered all these wicked things about Freemasonry he talked about later why did he then go on to join the organisation? Then his meteoric rise to a very high degree level plus admission to Illuminati status in the space of 8 or 9 years is stretching the imagination.

It seems he became a Freemason at the same time that he was a member of the Church Of Satan. The two are incompatible - so either he lied or was confused.

and by 2007 he's also a vampire.

ts not credible. I call him a fraud.

Cheers

By 2007 he is also a vampire? Im no expert on this guy, but I am somewhat certain I downloaded some videos with him talking about his time as a vampire, and that was before I joined this forum. And I joined this forum in 2007. But of course I guess that might have been the same year he converted to being a christian?

The stuff he talks about is interesting. Fantastic tales and unlikely without doubt, still I am I undecided what box to put him in yet. All he says could be true from what I know, but as soon as I find evidence on him about anything, I guess I will know what box to put him in.

[kblood]

Looked into it. First I found a masonic site. Not very organised review about all Bill's claims, but clearly not believing him. Then I found a more organized site:

http://www.relfe.com/07/Bill_William_Schnoebelen.html

Which explains the whole deal with timelines for all of it.

True? Still seems unlikely, but from my own experience then just being unlikely isnt the same as being a lie. Some people question why he would join Freemasonry after looking into it and seeing it as evil. If he was worshipping lucifer at the time, then it seems it would serve his purpose. Seems his beliefs were very upside down for many years.

I cant box him well at all with this little information though. I guess he stays in my undecided box for now. Like most things I find here.

[keystone]

Thanks for that. Not seen that one before but it gathers together what I've found very well indeed.

Cheers

[bluegrazz]

Yup, this dudes story gets better and better with every telling (and more and more gets added)

He is also one of the most interesting people to listen to (I really enjoy this stuff even knowing its BS) and I have listeed to or watched everything I could find in which he appears.

So yes, its complete BS (just listen to him- he talks about his "buddy" who summoned a demon in his garage who ate the poor dude (Mr. Snuffleuppagus, which is my Pet Name for 'ol Bill, was present at the time) or how any of his other tales--- But it is very creative and imaginative B.S. thus certainly worth the time IMO.

[edelweiss pirate]

Anyone seen this? Looks interesting - currently downloading it....



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7672003660947890622
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2444187257627429016

He's brilliant.

I had a mason lay his hand on my head once and saw the blinding white light that Bill describes.


You debunkers are pathetic. You either hate him because he exposes you or you hate him because he's a born again Christian.

Why don't you savage Bill Cooper while you're at it?

You've got a lot to learn about what this life is all about.

What's the first thing an escaping satanist would need in order to stay free and alive?

Duh! Spiritual protection? Which archetype provides UNCONDITIONAL SPIRITUAL PROTECTION.

D'uh.... It's Jesus.

Just the way things work folks. Like it or not.

[kblood]

Thanks for that. Not seen that one before but it gathers together what I've found very well indeed.

Cheers

You are welcome. It does seem to support Bill's stories though. It does make sense if you believe Lucifer is controlling all religions, then it doesnt matter if you are into several of them at the same time.

I havent looked into all the evidence stuff this site says it has to go with his stories. If they are all real, I guess he might not just be making it all up. Whatever the case, he does tell an interesting story.

[edelweiss pirate]

Look at the timeline he claims for his memberships of various organisations. He finds Jesus in 1984 when he is a Mormon but at the same time claims to have been a Wiccan. Was he both at exactly the same time?

He claims his studies enabled him to have "a comprehensive knowledge of occult and esoteric (hidden, high-level) Masonry and ceremonial magik." But then if he had discovered all these wicked things about Freemasonry he talked about later why did he then go on to join the organisation? Then his meteoric rise to a very high degree level plus admission to Illuminati status in the space of 8 or 9 years is stretching the imagination.

It seems he became a Freemason at the same time that he was a member of the Church Of Satan. The two are incompatible - so either he lied or was confused.

and by 2007 he's also a vampire.

ts not credible. I call him a fraud.

Cheers

Your assumptions are wrong as are your dates.

You're making shit up. This is the timeline:

* Born: 1949 (raised Catholic)
* Went through Catholic grade school and high school
* Entered Minor Seminary at Loras College to be a priest: 1967
* Introduced to the occult by a professor: late 1967
* Got involved in Wicca: 1968
* Made a Wiccan priest – first degree (Algard rite): 1968
* Graduated from college and took a leave of absence from priesthood studies: 1971
* Got a job teaching music in a Catholic high school in rural Iowa: 1971-1973
* Met his priestess whom he would later marry (1972)
* Ordained a Spiritualist minister in the Alliance of Divine Love: 1972
* Flew to Boston to be made a priest in the Alexandrian rite of Wicca – February of 1973
* Traveled to Arkansas to study under the Grand Master Druid of North America in the summer of 1973
* Made a Druidic High Priest in July of 1973 – also had a witch handfasting to his wife at the same time in Zion State Park in Zion IL.
* Fall of 1973, traveled to Boston MA to be made high priest (Third degree) in Alexandrian rite of Wicca
* Winter of 1973, began covens in Dubuque and Davenport Iowa
* Legally married by Spiritualist minister from Alliance of Divine Love: May of 1974
* Moved to Milwaukee to teach large numbers of people witchcraft: August of 1974
* Began involvement with Old Roman Catholic Church (ORCC) and studies for diaconate and priesthood in 1974-75
* Also began studies in Blue Lodge Freemasonry and was finally made a Master Mason in 1977
* About the same time (1975) as he got involved in the ORCC, he also became involved with Church of Satan – became a Second Degree Member (warlock)
* During this same period, he went through York Rite Masonry and became a Knight Templar.
* Later, in 1980, he went through Scottish Rite and became a 32nd degree Mason.
* He was ordained a priest in the ORCC in Plainfield, IL at St. Paul’s Old Catholic church. The ordination certificate is reproduced in MORMONISM’S TEMPLE OF DOOM.
* Through the Church of Satan, he became aware of more “hard core” Satanic groups and got involved with them – first the Order of the Black Ram (in Michigan) and later the Brotherhood in Chicago. This was when he began to practice some pretty heavy-duty sorcery.
In 1977-78 he began to study with the Monastery of the Seven Rays and was ultimately consecrated a Gnostic bishop by its head (see below…). The certificate is reproduced in LUCIFER DETHRONED. As a bishop, he was also charismated into the Syrio-Jacobite Orthodox episcopacy. At the same time, Bill was initiated into the "Antient and Primitive Rite of Memphis Mitzraim Freemasonry" and raised to the 90th degree of that Masonic rite.
* In 1979 he was introduced to vampirism as part of his training in the dark arts and was initiated into the vampire cult in Chicago in the so-called Church of the Resurrection.
* In 1980, he received a check back from the bank which he had sent to the Church of Satan for dues. A lady from the bank had written on the check, “I will be praying for you in Jesus’ name.” Within days, his life fell apart and he lost all his magical power. This crisis led us, ultimately to join the Mormon (LDS) Church…
* In August of 1980, he and his wife, Sharon, were baptized LDS. He went through several church offices, including Elders’ Quorum President and Institute of Religion teacher.
* In June of 1984, Bill became gloriously saved through the power of the TRUE Jesus Christ (NOT the LDS counterfeit)
* In February of 1985, he formally left the LDS Church.
* In July of 1986, he did his first public ministry at the Capstone Conference in Salt Lake City. That was the formal beginning of Bill’s ministry.


Pwned buddy.

[bluegrazz]

The guy is a fraud, plain and simple. He was probably an excellent story teller though and I would pay money for him to DM me in Dungeons and Dragons.

How about we look at how much his "power" helped him. At th time he is (supposedly) some leader of witches and warlocks he is a - NEWSPAPER DELIVERY BOY. So the most powerful Warlock on the West Coast is a newspaper delivery boy- MR 200,000 degree Master Mason is a - Newspaper Delivery Boy.

And- He started getting his wealth once he started duping the naive Christians with his "tales" which have grown better with each retelling.

Believe what you wish- But if you really think this is all true I feel for you. AND to say he is safe now because he "Came to Christ" or whatever makes me wonder why the early Christians (known as the Way) were thrown to lions and Christ did nothing to help them.

[metacomet]

You debunkers are pathetic.

Seconded.

They aren't really debunkers though... just pseudo-skeptics.

Debunkers actually go through the effort of disproving things (or attempting to).

Pseudo-skeptics sit back on their swollen red arses and claim everything is 'BS'. :rolleyes: They are pretty much worthless.

[bluegrazz]

Do you really see the world in such black and white.

Meta, I have looked at some of your posts and you seem to believe inn every conspiracy theory postulated. You seem to find it difficult that we have liars and hoaxers and profit driven and power mad people amongst us... Not just "dis-info" agents (although I am sure they exist as well- they arent much needed) but liars and charlatans and con men and crazy folk.

You will watch them come and go (I assume your probably young) and you will watch them rise up and fall down but keep on chugging along waiting for a new set of "dupes" to believe their tales- People unaware of their past.

You wil see people who (in search of truth) become lost in the confusion of believing everything... Dont be one of those people- You seem very bright just naive.

Being a Skeptical is very important- Even with information and sources you trust. That dosent make you an out and out skeptic for using your mind and a bit of common sense.

If you have listened to all of Mr. Snuffleupagus's interviews and need some "proof" pointed out to you that exposes him as a fraud I would ask you to just use a bit of that brain God gave you...

Look- If he had so much power why was he delivering newspapers? I mean if we are to believe that the leaders of the Occult and Illuminati (he says he was a high level Illuminatis as well) are in high levels and positions of power- How does this guy fit in being poor and unknown until he "came out" for the Lord to "warn Christians of the dark power"- AND YET HE SELLS HIS TAPES AND INFO FOR HUGE PROFIT.

Christians (I am not trying to insult here) are, by their very nature, trusting people who try to see the best in everyone- So this guy comes along and his story supports their beliefs (and creates more fear of "satan" and his power amongst the Christians) and they buy it.

Be cautious on trying to understand the world and looking for someone to "reveal" knowledge and "truth" to you. I say this as a friend to a friend.

[metacomet]

Meta, I have looked at some of your posts and you seem to believe inn every conspiracy theory postulated.

That's a fucking retarded thing to say. I don't post about conspiracies as much as I do spiritual and metaphysical issues... at all. What you call 'conspiracy theory' is just anything outside your perception of reality - and that's fine... that's a common practice, to label things in order to avoid contemplation. That was still a fucking retarded thing to say.

You seem to find it difficult that we have liars and hoaxers and profit driven and power mad people amongst us...

*shrug* I don't buy their videos or books, in fact, most of us don't. To insinuate that we aren't capable of reserving our beliefs or having sound judgement is insulting, and you pseudo-skeptics know it... but you're not about getting along in these kind of forums - you're just here to piss on everyone's shoes and hold your noses in the air as if you are somehow less naive and have your heads on straight.

You are not any more intelligent for pulling the pseudo-skeptic routine and stating the obvious 'oh that's probably not true' 'that doesn't sound realistic' etc...

the problem with pseudo-skeptics is they get intellectual hard-ons from playing the easiest card in alternative topics - the 'I don't believe it' card. Nobody gives a fuck what you people believe - yet you waltz into threads trying to hold your chin in the air demonstrating some kind of higher logic and looking down at the rest of us for simply discussing or reading about things.

:rolleyes:

You seem very bright just naive.

I'm bright enough to think for myself, dude, and if you didn't realize, everything I said up there ^ is directed at more people than yourself, so don't take it personally. Naivety is what causes people to walk around thinking there aren't such things as demons in this world, and that a man selling newspapers and profiting on his past experience must be lying about everything. I'll leave it at that.

[bluegrazz]

Bill Schnoebelen aka “Christopher Cyn” and his wife temporarily were the darlings of the Mormon church when they first joined, claiming to be an ex-Catholic priest and an ex-nun who had left the Roman Catholic Church. The story made the papers in 1981, and Schnoebelen didn’t mention his ex-witchcraft background.

By 1986 he was publishing books with Jack Chick saying he was an ex-Wiccan who got involved into deeper and deeper levels of Satanism and even Vampirism and “gay Nazi sex magic”. In subsequent books, he claimed that the Mormon priesthood was a stepping stone to Satanism as well and that he had been a Roman Catholic Bishop (apparently promoting himself from his ex-priest story), an ex-Old Catholic Bishop (the Old Catholic Church broke away from the Roman Catholic), a Bishop in the Gnostic Church, a 32nd degree Scotish Rite Mason, a 10th grade York Rite Mason, a 97th degree Mizra Memphis mason (an order which hasn’t exited since 1930!) a Palladium Rite mason (an order that no information can be found on) a Wiccan High Priest in Alexandrian Wicca, and a high ranking Satanist through the Church of Satan.

Now- This is just a bit of his claims and where things were put in quotes, they come from his writings.

NOW- This guy dosent dispute that he showed up penniless in Utah to join the Mormon church.

NOW- This guy doest dispute that he never owned a home (was a renter) and worked menial jobs. The timeline he gives places him as a high ranking Illuminati member at the time he was a paperboy.

Now- He tells storys of summoning powerful Demons in a friends Garage. As he smiled Charismatically he explained how horrible it was (very "Lovecraft") and in very descriptive terms (while smiling) talked about how it ate his friend.... Is this an experience one could go through and later laugh about in a non chalaant theatrical retelling? Are there Police reports or anyone willing to collaborate this tale- No. Although Bill says this guys "wife" was in the house at the time... The burden of proof here is not mine. Would someone who had been so "touched" by Christ act in this manner?

-ALSO- Anyone with such power to command and control demons would probably have the power to summon up the cash to buy a house- Or maybe find a job that didnt involve delivering newspapers.

Man there is such a difference between saying "I think thats Bullshit" just because its not provable and not believing a clearly bullshit story. I believe in a ton of things I cant proove. I dont belive things that are clearly bullshit. This story is.

Heres what the Masons say about Bill (I know its the masons but they use his own words and show excerpts from his book) They also expose some of his lies.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

Anyhow, you have every right to believe in whatever you want. I wont ever just say somethings a lie because I dont understand or cannot prove it. Some lies just stick waaaay out. This one does.

BUT- This dude spins a very wickedly entertaining tale- Worth watching everything you find of him (then you will also hear himself contradict himself across different videos FOR YOURSELVES.)

[kblood]

I already had a look at the link:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

And yes, it does tell something about Bill writing a book about terrorism. That is about all there is on that whole page trying to slanter him. Im somewhat amazed why they couldnt do it better than that? And their information is incorrect. The first time I saw one of his videos was not in 2007 and in that video he also claimed he were a vampire.

Here is a webpage that sets a timeline for all his stories:

http://www.relfe.com/07/Bill_William_Schnoebelen.html

Although Bill does sound like disinfo, that masonic webpage is untrustworthy as well. They do a good job at making his stories seem unbelievable, but Bill does that quite well himself. What makes me wonder is why have they not just taken some of the evidence supporting Bills stories and finding faults there? There should be certificates and that kind of on the webpage I linked.

[bluegrazz]

I already had a look at the link:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

And yes, it does tell something about Bill writing a book about terrorism. That is about all there is on that whole page trying to slanter him. Im somewhat amazed why they couldnt do it better than that? And their information is incorrect. The first time I saw one of his videos was not in 2007 and in that video he also claimed he were a vampire.

Here is a webpage that sets a timeline for all his stories:

http://www.relfe.com/07/Bill_William_Schnoebelen.html

Although Bill does sound like disinfo, that masonic webpage is untrustworthy as well. They do a good job at making his stories seem unbelievable, but Bill does that quite well himself. What makes me wonder is why have they not just taken some of the evidence supporting Bills stories and finding faults there? There should be certificates and that kind of on the webpage I linked.

Yeah- I dont trust the masons either but it was an easy link to pull.

Very good point regarding certificates. There should also be Jewelry I would imagine. I have never even been to his site (until just now) and am surprised he didnt have at least something up there (forged or not)

Good point.

[edelweiss pirate]

The guy is a fraud, plain and simple. He was probably an excellent story teller though and I would pay money for him to DM me in Dungeons and Dragons.

How about we look at how much his "power" helped him. At th time he is (supposedly) some leader of witches and warlocks he is a - NEWSPAPER DELIVERY BOY. So the most powerful Warlock on the West Coast is a newspaper delivery boy- MR 200,000 degree Master Mason is a - Newspaper Delivery Boy.

And- He started getting his wealth once he started duping the naive Christians with his "tales" which have grown better with each retelling.

Believe what you wish- But if you really think this is all true I feel for you. AND to say he is safe now because he "Came to Christ" or whatever makes me wonder why the early Christians (known as the Way) were thrown to lions and Christ did nothing to help them.

You have no evidence WHATSOEVER for that assertion.

You are a fraud. For that assertion your blinkered defence of the status-quo and a rabid knew jerk reaction to anything attacking the satanic cults are ample evidence.

Why are you so biased? Do you belong to one of the cults that Bill exposes?

If you post links to masonic websites as evidence then may I suggest you have taken a wrong turning to end up here. You're on the wrong website buddy! Get back to ATS...

[notthisshitagain]

I just saw part 1. Where's Brad Pitt? :confused::D

[bluegrazz]

You have no evidence WHATSOEVER for that assertion.

You are a fraud. For that assertion your blinkered defence of the status-quo and a rabid knew jerk reaction to anything attacking the satanic cults are ample evidence.

Why are you so biased? Do you belong to one of the cults that Bill exposes?

If you post links to masonic websites as evidence then may I suggest you have taken a wrong turning to end up here. You're on the wrong website buddy! Get back to ATS...

I am not the one to whom the burden of proof belongs.


EDIT: Also, he is the one (see part 1) who said he was a Newspaper Delivery boy who never had anything but menial jobs (his words) after losing his Job as a Catholic Music Teacher because "They didnt like the Pentagram he wore around his neck)

That is from his mouth- Not mine. So, Newspaper Boys who dont own homes (again, he gives us this info in another if his vids where he talks about "The LORD" providing him a home and that he never owned one previous.

Dude, what more do you want. A hobo coming out and claiming to be the top Zionist leader.

I hardly think top Illuminati members are forced to work menial (his words- see part 1 for the 50th time) jobs. If your Hobnobbing with leaders of the World and top Sorcerers dont you think you could ask one of them to maybe, you know, help a brotha out.

This isnt a matter of "proof"- If you dont have the good sense to see holes the size of Texas in this story its not my job to explain it to you.

People like Meta may have diffrent opinions than myself but I can still respect for intelligence (and often its the most intelligent who are drawn to this stuff)- People like you are just confused and willing to buy into anything without thinking for yourself.

I am not the one claiming to be one of the ost powerful sorcerers, Illuminati, 99th degree mason, whatever- And being an indigent at the time.

I am not a top "Wizard" or "Illuminati" and guess what- I own a home and dont deliver newspapers... Imagine if I were a Top Wizard.

Dont you think this guy could have asked one of his Illuminati friends to get him a Job? Or does being an elite Illumoinus include poor people. This guy is making the clim - not me.

I am a fraud for not believing a bullshit story that dosent add up- Okay.

You are Gullabe and deserve the "cult" of crazy people to whom you are in company with.

EDIT 2: wow ignore the jumbled statement- my edit was apparently put in the middle of my post...If you can decipher what I am saying good. If noot, no worries as it doesnt matter.

[edelweiss pirate]

You have no proof that his story doesn't add up!

The only gripe you seem to have is his beard which you use to describe him as a hobo.

A beard is weak argument.

[bluegrazz]

LOL- dude you just made my day.

Are you for real or are you playing me? If your playing me I /bow because it was a job well done.

EDIT: BTW- I actually love his beard. Makes him look more wise (like an old wizard)- I wold love a beard like that but can only grow a goatee- Perhaps I hate him due to beard envy. I must more deeply examine myself.

[edelweiss pirate]

LOL- dude you just made my day.

Are you for real or are you playing me? If your playing me I /bow because it was a job well done.

EDIT: BTW- I actually love his beard. Makes him look more wise (like an old wizard)- I wold love a beard like that but can only grow a goatee- Perhaps I hate him due to beard envy. I must more deeply examine myself.

Really, you're easily amused. Whatever, I've pegged you 'troll'!



I'm Still waiting for that proof....

See ya!

[bluegrazz]

Really, you're easily amused. Whatever, I've pegged you 'troll'!



I'm Still waiting for that proof....

See ya!
nah man- your right... Snuffleupagus is the most powerful wizard in the land (I am ready to face the truth) he is greater than Gandolf and he really was the leader of the Illuminati.

I twisted his words- I am ashamed QQ..... Yes, he said he was a Paperboy and never owned a home- But that was because being a paperboy was his favorite hobby and he didnt want the hassle of Owning a home and maintaining it and stuff... I just left out the part where he said being a paperboy was his hobby because it strengthened my argument.

No- theres no holes in this story. it makes perfect sense- I just had beard envy going on and felt the need to discredit this great man even after all he has done to expose this stuff to people like you.... I really am ashamed of myself for this.

Hell, top Illuminati members like David Rockefeller often deliver pizzas for fun and many times get so tired of their servants and Mansions that they just go live on the streets of the city in a cardboard box- Who can blame em. Clearly Snuffleuppagus was one of these elites... His meanial jobs were nothing but a mere hobby to him and owning a home is for non Illuminati pussies. He was hardcore.

I will try not to let the beard envy cloud my judgment in the future- It just angers me so much looking at that wonderful white beard and wishing it were mine... Oh how I pray.

[skyver]

Really, you're easily amused. Whatever, I've pegged you 'troll'!



I'm Still waiting for that proof....

See ya!

I can't believe your taking it so badly? It's just an opinion? I also think he's a bullshitter but it doesn't mean I or anyone else is a fraud.for believing so. What is it that rings so true with you about what he says? Is it from personal experience, a hunch or what? i was all for giving this man my time & hearing what he had to say, but when he dropped the bit about the demon tricking his friend in the garage & grabbing him & for him not to see his friend again, it just was a tad too far. And like someone on here says, when he goes to tell the guys wife "sorry your husband's just been eaten by a demon/sucked into another dimension.." or what ever he said & the wife was like "upset" but new that this was the risk that they took? Oh & he said the demon was "slimy with tentacles.." Nah man, I can't buy it. In fact I keep laughing when I think about him telling that story it sounds like something out of a poorly made horror/comedy movie. I do know that dark entities would be a lot more cunning, evil & devious than some slimy, tentacled demon. I think he's got some sort of disorder where he has to feel important.

[element]

If you want a good laugh then watching Schnoebelen's stuff is recommended.

I remember the part where he said he had to choose between becoming a vampire or a werewolf. Apparantly he was told that to become a werewolf would involve a lot of pain, so he tried the vampire way.:D

He slates almost everything in his videos, not just Freemasons or ''Illuminati'' but also other religions and many forms of Christianity as well. Basically, everything is bad, except the protestants..

This isn't a genuine researcher or ''exposer'', guys. It's someone who tries to scare you everywhere and wants to convert you. Prove me wrong.

[bluegrazz]

Element, I had completely forgotten about that part. =)

Im gunna havta watch his stuff again- Its pure gold.

Did you see the one where he brags about his Harem of Women willing to let him drink their blood? I know he mentions this on several Videos of his but on a particular one it is so full of Bravado and Boast it reminded me of how Junior High School kids brag about all the "chicks" they have had.

For a Christian who has "turned to God" he sure gets a kick going into great detail about how powerful and great he was. If I had listened to this guy as a kid it would have (seriously) not hindered me one bit from getting involved in this stuff- Quite the contrary. Hearing him explain this Mystical World of powerful Sorcerers and Vampires with all this "power" he had, a harem of women, etc.... I would be asking where I could sign up. Hell I coulda summoned a Demon to take care of those bullies =P

The problem is, when I was a little kid- I wouldnt be looking objectively at his tale (like questioning why he only had menial jobs if all this power was real)

I just cannot believe anyone over the age of 10 would take him seriously. But personally really do find him very entertaining and I really would pay to go see him speak live... You dont get to hear shit this this everyday.

Thanks again for reminding me of that "choice" he had to make. Was that in Interview? Im downloading the whole series now and tommorow I will be in engrossed in some awesome storytelling.

[flereous]

Hmm...makes sense. I know for a fact that vampires are real, but there are different types. In my Temple, blood drinking is forbidden and has major consequences. But people dont believe everything you hear. Test everything, Believe nothing. Thats what I live by, and it would help you to live by that too.

[biblegirl]

One of the shocking revelations of the DVD is that Dante's movie The Howling supposedly employed an actual lycanthrope to transform on camera for that film. This is one of many bizarre revelations by Schnoebelen.

does anyone know what scene this is talking about?

[krakhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMl1qGkfyv0

1st transformation.

[size_of_light]

Bottin's most celebrated effect was the on-screen transformation of Eddie Quist, which involved air bladders under latex facial applications to give the illusion of transformation. In fact, Variety notes that The Howling's biggest flaw is that the impact of this initial transformation is never topped during the climax of the film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Howling_(film)

[the cosmos]

Few things that i don't seem to get...

He knows reptilians etc, and yet there's talk of the devil.
He was saved by Jesus.

How does Jesus/Devil fit into the world of reptilians and consciousness ? The Jesus and Devil deities are just there to explain duality. BS, went from one duality to another.....

Is he living in a fools paradise ? I don't discount the things he went through etc., however all this jesus and devil talk doesn't fit.

:confused::confused:

[keystone]

Is he living in a fools paradise?No he's an leech who laughs all the way to the bank when gullible fools believe him and spend lotsa luvly lolly on his outpourings.

I don't discount the things he went through etc.,You should take it with a very very large spadeful of salt IMO.

however all this jesus and devil talk doesn't fit.None of it fits when you examine it. Its all bollix.

:confused::confused:Don't be. Read his nonsense in the knowledge that it is and it might be entertaining. :D

Cheers

[size_of_light]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58Rimr1dtQ&feature=related

I've got no opinion on how credible this guy is, but it's possible they could mix in special effects with the odd genuine shot and nobody would really notice.

2:55 - 2:58 is an example of the sort of thing I mean.

EDIT: The whole transformation looks pretty damn impressive!

[skyver]

It all seems like a joke & we all have a laugh but then the problem is that he causes damage to people who claim Abduction by aliens or feel that they really are hounded by some sort of dark entity (spirits etc). And on another note, if he is bullshitting (Er, I think so) then he is also laughing at Christianity/Christians as he swears "on the bible", "to yeshua" etc. I will say it again, when he said that a bad ass demon grabbed his mate & took him into another dimension NEVER to be seen again & his mates wife was doing the washing up or something & was like "a little upset, but these things happen"! Nah, I fell to the floor laughing, my girlfriend cussing me saying "why do you fill your head full of this shit"! I'm sorry I just can't take it seriously...

[consciousness]

He's brilliant.

I had a mason lay his hand on my head once and saw the blinding white light that Bill describes.


You debunkers are pathetic. You either hate him because he exposes you or you hate him because he's a born again Christian.

Why don't you savage Bill Cooper while you're at it?

You've got a lot to learn about what this life is all about.

What's the first thing an escaping satanist would need in order to stay free and alive?

Duh! Spiritual protection? Which archetype provides UNCONDITIONAL SPIRITUAL PROTECTION.

D'uh.... It's Jesus.

Just the way things work folks. Like it or not.

I do find alot of credibility in what Bill is saying, having watched previous videos of him.

For people who don't believe Bill, why not arrange for Jordan Maxwell to watch Bill's stuff, and then comment on it, or ask Jordan what he thinks of it ?

[kblood]

I do find alot of credibility in what Bill is saying, having watched previous videos of him.

For people who don't believe Bill, why not arrange for Jordan Maxwell to watch Bill's stuff, and then comment on it, or ask Jordan what he thinks of it ?

Good idea, or someone else. There must be quite a few people in these networks of people, who would be able to tell whether he is lying or not.

Which I guess it is likely that he is, but that kind of person would most likely be able to point out the flaws that makes it obvious.

[ufochick]

I have no idea who this guy is, didn't read anything about him. BUT Wicca is an odd one, almost every wiccan I have met refuses to keep a full time job and works at things they have some control over. Very few 8-5 people. At least in the States.

It's pretty easy to get a big title in wicca too. All you need are some people who will agree to let you boss them around and call you by that title. There is no formal wiccan group that I know of. Anyone can claim any title they want. I have noticed that the ones who know what they are doing claim no title.

But that's just what I have seen. Why would people assume someone with a wiccan "title" has money or power? True wicca is not about personal power as we think of it and has nothing to do with money.

[spitalwings]

This jerk off went from pretend vampire to fake christian, real road to Damascus stuff and the conspiracy halfwits eat it up. Although that was defo a real werewolf in that film.

[edelweiss pirate]

This jerk off went from pretend vampire to fake christian, real road to Damascus stuff and the conspiracy halfwits eat it up. Although that was defo a real werewolf in that film.

Actually some of us live it too buddy and we've been there.

That's why I know he's for real.

When you reach that point in your spiritual evolution send me a postcard with the phrase 'sorry I was an uninformed dick' on it.

Until then, LEARN!

[spitalwings]

Actually some of us live it too buddy and we've been there.

That's why I know he's for real.

When you reach that point in your spiritual evolution send me a postcard with the phrase 'sorry I was an uninformed dick' on it.

Until then, LEARN!

Yeah but you think the x-men are real. So your opinion which you are entitled to is irrelevant to me EW, peace.

[chris_morganti]

I watched this a while back at the same time as I watch that ex-FBI guy video talking about child abuse.

Good watching.

You shouldn't compare Bill Schnoebelen with Ted Gunderson (who actually was former FBI.)

Reasons not to believe Bill Schnoebelen:

1. He claims he was a vampire who literally had fangs which came out of his mouth.

2. He claims that he came rocketting through the earth's atmosphere and landed in his parents backyard in a crater.

3. In Lucifer Dethroned he says the walls of the structure he enters on one of mars moons is blueish, in Interview with an Ex vampire he says it is Greenish (or the other way around.)

4. He fails at least from what I know to actually know the difference between Evoking something and Invoking (in regards to entities.) Any former occultist would know the difference.

5. His certificates conventiently don't (for the most part) have his name, instead they have another name which he supposedly changed his name to.
He probably can't be sued I am guessing for publishing certificates of a person who never existed "Christopher P. Syn".

6. He claims he has seen fallen angel(s), yet never mentioned anything about it in his book Lucifer Dethroned.

7. Claims he has had 14 assasination attempts on his life and survived them all (through Jesus Christ of course ..)

8. He is a Christian Fundamentalist that basically calls everything Satan.


His information on the occult is for the most part accurate (unlike Leo Zagami and other "Former Illuminati" frauds.)

[edelweiss pirate]

2. He claims that he came rocketting through the earth's atmosphere and landed in his parents backyard in a crater.

3. In Lucifer Dethroned he says the walls of the structure he enters on one of mars moons is blueish, in Interview with an Ex vampire he says it is Greenish (or the other way around.)

You do know he did all this astrally of course?

I thought he made it perfectly clear.



1. He claims he was a vampire who literally had fangs which came out of his mouth.

You obviously know very little about strange physical feats and miracles of people such as The Jansenists for example.

Remember, this world is photon hologram.

You'd be surprised at what delusions take place in people's minds when they become servants of Satan.


And if you knew anything about the power of the human mind you'd know that delusions have the strange habit of starting to become real.


Ask any genuine paranoid schizophrenic...... Their lives start to become the weird paranoid delusions they have because we have the power to create reality itself.


7. Claims he has had 14 assasination attempts on his life and survived them all (through Jesus Christ of course ..)


Your beliefs are you own affair just as are Bill's surely....

Please, find the key that's locked your mind tight shut and open it a fraction.

[chris_morganti]

You do know he did all this astrally of course?

I thought he made it perfectly clear.

He says at first he wasn't sure whether or not it was an astral projection.
Question: How can an astral body create a crater in his backyard?

Not perfectly clear.

A former "Illuminatus" who cannot understand the concepting of invoking or evoking a spirit is nota former Illuminatus.

I believe the truth will ALWAYS stand strong against harsh criticism, and Bill Schnoebelen simply does not.

He should have never released "Interview with an Ex Vampire" if he wanted to keep his credibility, because that is where he totally ruins it.


I wish there was really someone from the inside such as Schnoebelen to give us an inside look at things.

[spitalwings]

You shouldn't compare Bill Schnoebelen with Ted Gunderson (who actually was former FBI.)

Reasons not to believe Bill Schnoebelen:

1. He claims he was a vampire who literally had fangs which came out of his mouth.

2. He claims that he came rocketting through the earth's atmosphere and landed in his parents backyard in a crater.

3. In Lucifer Dethroned he says the walls of the structure he enters on one of mars moons is blueish, in Interview with an Ex vampire he says it is Greenish (or the other way around.)

4. He fails at least from what I know to actually know the difference between Evoking something and Invoking (in regards to entities.) Any former occultist would know the difference.

5. His certificates conventiently don't (for the most part) have his name, instead they have another name which he supposedly changed his name to.
He probably can't be sued I am guessing for publishing certificates of a person who never existed "Christopher P. Syn".

6. He claims he has seen fallen angel(s), yet never mentioned anything about it in his book Lucifer Dethroned.

7. Claims he has had 14 assasination attempts on his life and survived them all (through Jesus Christ of course ..)

8. He is a Christian Fundamentalist that basically calls everything Satan.


His information on the occult is for the most part accurate (unlike Leo Zagami and other "Former Illuminati" frauds.)


1. LOL.

2. LOL.

3. LOL.

4. LOL.

5. LOL.

6. LOL.

7. LOL.

8. LOL.

There is real evil in the world to worry about not the shite this cartoon conman is selling.

[energi]

You can click on 'thread tools' then 'subscribe to thread' - but there's no need now as you've posted on here - automatically subscribes you! :D

I fookin' hate that, I've got over one thousand subscribed threads when I've only ever actively clicked on 6 or 7 threads for subscription since I registered on these forums.

Those 6 or 7 threads are buried among ~1030 others :mad:

[edelweiss pirate]

He says at first he wasn't sure whether or not it was an astral projection.
Question: How can an astral body create a crater in his backyard?

Not perfectly clear.


He went to Saturn I believe and perceived a different vibrational reality.

I've seen some strange things. Just cos the things Bill's seen are stanger doesn't mean I discount him.

The guy clearly believes it. Personally as I've tried to make clear, at this level of initiation most of what a person sees is implanted hallucinations or images originating from the subconscious mind. He may have hallucinated the hole in his backyard, or it could be caused by the energy impact of his astral body.

Suggest you get to know a schizophrenic and ask them what's possible. Not saying you have to be schizophrenic to know what's real, but the high level satanists all think like this. It's real enough to them.


I find it plausible because I know this world has a lot of weird stuff hiding round the corner.