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lightgiver

25-03-2009, 02:45 AM

And they had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Abaddon means "destruction" and Apollyon means "destroyer." A destroying spirit has deceived mankind. Because man is deceived, he does not realize that he has been the dupe of a destroying spirit.

Thus mankind, with these awesome, somewhat godlike powers and intellect, uses them to destroy, to maim, to sear, to rape, to exploit. It happens on a massive scale. It also happens in individual relationships with one another. It is not confined to the great and mighty things, which are only an accumulation of small things allowed to become big.

guybrush

27-03-2009, 12:21 AM

My signature as response....

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 12:25 AM

My signature as response....

and your 33rd post ;)

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2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

Most of this world's holidays are based on fables, myths, and lies, while the Christian is commanded to worship God "in spirit and in truth." A true Christian does not lie and does not associate with lies, but seeks after truth in all aspects of life. If we live with a little lie now, then it is much easier to live with a worse lie later. God is emphatic on this point: A liar will not enter the Kingdom of God (Revelation 21:7-8).

and 911 was the biggest lie.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

The numbers 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33 , 39 have special meaning to the ELITE Freemasons. Remember, The Brotherhood of the Serpent was founded clear back in ancient Sumeria and the one who founded it was overthrown by those who were evil. With evil now in control it took this Brotherhood of the Serpent (Big Brother) and made several spin-offs of it. The Bilderberg Group is one, it has 39 members in its core who are broken into 3 groups of 13. And the 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. The 13 who make up the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm

Tower of Siloam, whose collapse is an omen in the Gospel of Luke.

john 9-11

Go to Siloam, and wash: so I went away and washed, and I received sight.

Peeps need to start washing their eyes more thoroughly then they may see more clearly;)

leviathanstaar

27-03-2009, 02:52 AM

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 02:58 AM

I walked by the television just an hour ago, an old episode of I think...the outer limits?

was about a man who discovers a minature insect like alien race, and enlaves them.

He seperates them and propogates war between them with a false food scarcity, as he states to a friend. Little does he know they are becoming smarter and larger as they eat.

The friend upon discovering this asdks him, how many generartions have you dont this to so far, and he creepily answers with a smile, 33.

It's not notable unless you wonder what that had to with the story, which is supposedly nothing.

I know it's off topic and I dont know why, but it the post reminded me of this suddenly because they were also seemingly off the story topic about the sand effigy's and castles.

Thats how the elites work mate.;) symbolism.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm click on the link.

they like to shove it in plain view.

just ask yourself what planet you are on revolving around a sun in space.

The Elite Mason worships toward the East, because they are pagan Sun worshippers, hence the Eastern Star. Most other Masons do not even realize this. In their Lodges, the North is empty as a symbol of their belief about that direction. Why do Masons believe this way about the North? The Bible states that God sits on His throne in the north [Isaiah 14:13]. By striking the North Tower first, the Illuminist Masons guiding this world into the New World Order may have been symbolically striking at God and His system, the Old World Order!

I find plenty of insults on here,its what folks do when they have run out of ideas.

everyone thinks its gonna be fine.

Heaven and hell is here mate,but most choose hell thinking they are choosing heaven.

also what do you think TV is for and i wonder who brought that on the scene.

dusthead

27-03-2009, 03:14 AM

Wasn't Jesus 33 when he died?

I don't know what relevance that has.

quetzalcoatl

27-03-2009, 03:14 AM

and your 33rd post ;)

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Location: Liverpool, England.

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2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

Most of this world's holidays are based on fables, myths, and lies, while the Christian is commanded to worship God "in spirit and in truth." A true Christian does not lie and does not associate with lies, but seeks after truth in all aspects of life. If we live with a little lie now, then it is much easier to live with a worse lie later. God is emphatic on this point: A liar will not enter the Kingdom of God (Revelation 21:7-8).

and 911 was the biggest lie.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

The numbers 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33 , 39 have special meaning to the ELITE Freemasons. Remember, The Brotherhood of the Serpent was founded clear back in ancient Sumeria and the one who founded it was overthrown by those who were evil. With evil now in control it took this Brotherhood of the Serpent (Big Brother) and made several spin-offs of it. The Bilderberg Group is one, it has 39 members in its core who are broken into 3 groups of 13. And the 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. The 13 who make up the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm

Tower of Siloam, whose collapse is an omen in the Gospel of Luke.

john 9-11

Go to Siloam, and wash: so I went away and washed, and I received sight.

Peeps need to start washing their eyes more thoroughly then they may see more clearly;)

Wot does this mean.. do you think the Brother-hood of the Serpent/Snake was originally benevolent? :confused:

[Edit] - As a side-topic.. :p

tannah

27-03-2009, 03:26 AM

Thats how the elites work mate.;) symbolism.

Actually I think there is a cosmic joke attached to it too, and the very symbols themselves are condemning the wrongful use of them. It's true that the source of all reality or illusion (heaven and hell) exist within the manipulation of symbols which are often cyclic frequency dominated geomtric imprints, but the advantage that reality has always over illusion, is that illusion cannot move from the place of its origin (this lower dimension), as it is not real. Therefore when reality awakens universally, and an octave shift in frequency occurs, illusion cannot follow (it's tested and doesn't pass through the fire of reality), and a new beginning cycle commences. This coming age is a spiritual one. Both reality and illusion are reaching their fruition in this cycle, and the wheat seperating from the chaff will be of its own doing.
As most humans carry an amount of both, it is probably the proclivity of ones spirit or intentions that will be the deciding factor for them.

655321

27-03-2009, 08:21 PM

Revelation 13:13

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

http://www.siue.edu/~ejoy/ApocalypseKilgore1.jpg

Apocalypse Now (1979)

Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
[kneels]
Kilgore: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
[sniffing, pondering]
Kilgore: victory. Someday this war's gonna end...
[suddenly walks off]

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 08:33 PM

Wot does this mean.. do you think the Brother-hood of the Serpent/Snake was originally benevolent? :confused:

[Edit] - As a side-topic.. :p

Maybe,a lot of things can start of Benevolent,and over time can turn Malevolent,due to own agendas and satanic forces;)

I always say just remember we are a rock spinning around a sun,and people think this is heaven,when in reality we are being deceived by satanic forces for short term pleasures.

If people cannot get it right here,does one think the gates of heaven will be open to them when the body dies.

There is a lot of evil on this earth and people ignoring 911 and the rest of the slaughter is wrong,after all most of us know what is right and wrong.

IMHO anyway,it is up to people what direction they take,I am just stating something I believe;)

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 08:37 PM

Actually I think there is a cosmic joke attached to it too, and the very symbols themselves are condemning the wrongful use of them. It's true that the source of all reality or illusion (heaven and hell) exist within the manipulation of symbols which are often cyclic frequency dominated geomtric imprints, but the advantage that reality has always over illusion, is that illusion cannot move from the place of its origin (this lower dimension), as it is not real. Therefore when reality awakens universally, and an octave shift in frequency occurs, illusion cannot follow (it's tested and doesn't pass through the fire of reality), and a new beginning cycle commences. This coming age is a spiritual one. Both reality and illusion are reaching their fruition in this cycle, and the wheat seperating from the chaff will be of its own doing.
As most humans carry an amount of both, it is probably the proclivity of ones spirit or intentions that will be the deciding factor for them.

good post:)but whether it is an illusion or not people are suffering through inaction.

They say the sun an-a shines for all,
But in some people world, it never shine at all.
They say love is a stream that will find its course;
I mean - some-a people think life is a dream
So they making matters worse.

So - so - so much have been said, so little (been done) been done
They still killin' - killin' the people
And they - and they havin' (havin' their fun) - havin'-a - havin'-a lots of fun -
Killin' the people, (havin' fun) havin' their fun!
They just want to be the leader
In the 'house of the rising' sun. bob sums it up :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h2Tlm09DLI

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 08:42 PM

Wasn't Jesus 33 when he died?

I don't know what relevance that has.

Yes,I did post on it;)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53065

655321

27-03-2009, 10:39 PM

http://www.kevinwolf.com/images/bush_un3.jpg

Bush will always be associated with Rev 9:11. He is the destroyer.

lightgiver

27-03-2009, 10:50 PM

http://www.kevinwolf.com/images/bush_un3.jpg

Bush will always be associated with Rev 9:11. He is the destroyer.

Puppet destroyer,the guy has not got enough intelligence to orchestrate such an event,but yes he will be forever connected to it.(and the Shoe episode)

His masters and mistresses used him well.

TBH I have pity for him and all the other Destroyers.

Lets Pray we never become like them and Pray they soon change their EVIL ways.

tannah

28-03-2009, 12:58 AM

good post:)but whether it is an illusion or not people are suffering through inaction.

They say the sun an-a shines for all,
But in some people world, it never shine at all.
They say love is a stream that will find its course;
I mean - some-a people think life is a dream
So they making matters worse.

So - so - so much have been said, so little (been done) been done
They still killin' - killin' the people
And they - and they havin' (havin' their fun) - havin'-a - havin'-a lots of fun -
Killin' the people, (havin' fun) havin' their fun!
They just want to be the leader
In the 'house of the rising' sun. bob sums it up :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h2Tlm09DLI

Mmmmm I loves my Bob! Opening the windows on a summers day and blasting out Redemption Song! They look at me a-funny, but I no-a-do it for the money.

lightgiver

28-03-2009, 01:03 AM

Mmmmm I loves my Bob! Opening the windows on a summers day and blasting out Redemption Song! They look at me a-funny, but I no-a-do it for the money.

Hi Tannah:)

Nice,Jah Bless,his message is just as relevant now more than ever;):) I like to call him the Prophet:)

I want to disturb my neighbour caus I'm feeling so right,keep blasting,everyone love Bob.:D Blow them to full watts tonight,Ha Ha,

I wish his sons would speak and sing out more.

You a-go tired fe see me face;
Can't get me out of the race.
Oh, man, you said I'm in your place
And then you draw bad cyard -
A-make you draw bad cyard,
And then you draw bad cyard.

Propaganda spreading over my name;
Say you wanna bring another life to shame.
Oh, man, you just a-playing a game
And then you draw bad cyard (draw bad cyard);
A-make you draw bad cyard (draw bad cyard);
A-make you draw bad cyard.

I want to disturb my neighbour,
'Cause I'm feelin' so right;
I want to turn up my disco,
Blow them to full watts tonight, eh! -
In a rub-a-dub style, in a rub-a-dub style,
In a rub-a-dub style, in a rub-a-dub style.

'Cause we guarding the palace so majestic;
Guarding the palace so realistic!

secondsun

29-03-2009, 08:10 AM

The numbers 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33 , 39 have special meaning to the ELITE Freemasons.

...on TALK SPORT radio the other night David Prever was standing in for G.Galloway... part of GG`s show is playing bits of music from a paticular year... Prever chose 1973 and while talking about the the latest `official` severe terror threat played in sucsession...

Bowie... SORROW

Wings... LIVE AND LET DIE

Marvin Gaye ( i think )... LETS GET IT ON

...am i thinking too deeply!?!

...anybody else got a feeling about 31.7.9? ( end of July )

...oh!... the following night Prever chose music from 1979!

...presuming its Prever that chooses the music of course!?!

quetzalcoatl

29-03-2009, 08:34 AM

Maybe,a lot of things can start of Benevolent,and over time can turn Malevolent,due to own agendas and satanic forces;)

I know.. didn't think you knew! :p Like-wise, it can also work the other-way.. ;)

I always say just remember we are a rock spinning around a sun,and people think this is heaven,when in reality we are being deceived by satanic forces for short term pleasures.

If people cannot get it right here,does one think the gates of heaven will be open to them when the body dies.

Yeah right, cuz if ya fuck it up to any degree; yea will be sent to a 'place called hell' where your tortured for eternity.. Sounds fair to me!?! :rolleyes:

You have to realize that heaven is not & was not ever any place where one goes for a particular 'reward'.. it simply meant 'Sky' the heavens = the atmosphere/sky.. Now the 'Kingdom of God' on the other-hand, that could well be a different story.. could possibly be an 'ancient community of beings' ;) that obtain great knowledge & technology & possibly the technology to reverse &/or suspend the degradation & death of the body.. It could well be a 'prize' or 'gift' available to each & every one of us.. when we do the right things. ;) They are watching.. :eek:;)

There is a lot of evil on this earth and people ignoring 911 and the rest of the slaughter is wrong,after all most of us know what is right and wrong.

IMHO anyway,it is up to people what direction they take,I am just stating something I believe;)

I completely agree here.. ;)

lightgiver

29-03-2009, 10:38 PM

I know.. didn't think you knew! :p Like-wise, it can also work the other-way.. ;)

Yeah right, cuz if ya fuck it up to any degree; yea will be sent to a 'place called hell' where your tortured for eternity.. Sounds fair to me!?! :rolleyes:

You have to realize that heaven is not & was not ever any place where one goes for a particular 'reward'.. it simply meant 'Sky' the heavens = the atmosphere/sky.. Now the 'Kingdom of God' on the other-hand, that could well be a different story.. could possibly be an 'ancient community of beings' ;) that obtain great knowledge & technology & possibly the technology to reverse &/or suspend the degradation & death of the body.. It could well be a 'prize' or 'gift' available to each & every one of us.. when we do the right things. ;) They are watching.. :eek:;)

I completely agree here.. ;)

1st point agreed,

2nd point,hell is already on earth for some,maybe it is hell?and some think this is a short term heaven,or maybe we are here on trial?but there is hell of manipulation on this realm or planet,IE MSM brainwashing and elite corruption.

Some one is watching for sure and taking most of humanity on a ride,and we reap what we sow,and its only a matter of time before TPTB will be reaping theirs if they do not change their evil ways;)

and there is more to 911 than meets the eye.

hirschfelder

29-03-2009, 11:36 PM

leviathanstaar

30-03-2009, 04:56 AM

I find many of the words quite disturbing. Not at the OP author, but many of the versus.

This is because I abbhor the idea I will be/deserve to be presented with illusions and then punished for choosing incorrectly amongst said discord.

I know of right and wrong, and I make much effort to be and do right.

This is all that can ever really say that I know, this is all I can be sure of through the chaos that is life and is my mind. The images, the sounds, the declarations of moral highground. All demand recognition as truth and allegiance, and somehow one is to feel that right one inside somehow or else.

Something makes me reject a scornful threatening undertone in contemplating my creator and what it would have from me, as reality is, I know of nothing. Or perhaps very little.

I dont know what it really wants from me, if it does at all as it has never truly told me.
Even if I am wrong, and I have simply failed to see......it deserves no more condemnation than the ignorance of a child.

What guilt should a child carry for not understanding what the parent says it knows? none.

quetzalcoatl

30-03-2009, 05:32 AM

1st point agreed,

2nd point,hell is already on earth for some,maybe it is hell?and some think this is a short term heaven,or maybe we are here on trial?but there is hell of manipulation on this realm or planet,IE MSM brainwashing and elite corruption.

Some one is watching for sure and taking most of humanity on a ride,and we reap what we sow,and its only a matter of time before TPTB will be reaping theirs if they do not change their evil ways;)

and there is more to 911 than meets the eye.

Yep, I tend to agree.. However, Earth isn't exactly - by default - 'hell' per-se.. It can be & has been for some.. guess tis bout perception.. wot one calls going through hell - others may call a walk in the park.. Point is it can & has, for some, gotten way worse! ;)

Yes, evil will eventually reap wot it sowed.. & the longer the karma builds the worse it's gonna be.. :cool:

911 was a big mistake on their part & serves as a great starting point to 'wake folk up'.. Personally, I don't bother that much these days.. as it is plain to see some people prefer the slumber, nay even fight to defend it.. Also, in the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't really make much of a difference.. :)

Tis been too little too late since over 2000 years.. (plain to see evil is @ the helm) so it really matters not - best ya can do is have a bit of fun, enjoy wot is left of good in life etc.. Tis like Divine retribution has been suspended for 'soo long', possible for the preservation of the good.. Yet, I say - if ya gonna make an omelet, expect to break some eggs.. ;)