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skel8tor
08-07-2007, 01:09 PM
What can we do?
I think David Icke is very tired from (not of) his passions and getting old. He stumbles on his words, his arguments are sometimes illogically, inaccurate and topics may be muddled or outright made up. During his talks many topics are covered but without enough time to do them justice. It is easy to say 'thats just bullshit'.
David Icke is trully a hero of our time. When your brain is 'given' a tremdous amount of information, of which most cannot be easily expressed in human words, it takes heroism to perservere. (As demonstrated on the infamous Wogan Show. ps I think Phillip K Dick had a similar experience which he called Valis).
Here is a quote from Bob Frissell's 1994 book 'Nothing in this book is true but its exactly how things are' :
"... Left Eye of Horus ... but I did know that the purpose of a prophet was to be wrong, that what a profit does is give a wake up call. If the prophet is successful we hear the call and the prophecy does not come true."

I was always frustrated that David Icke didn't offer a solution to the scary picture he painted. This is more true of 'What is the Matrix'2003, Problem; "Reptiles from 'another place' harvest our fear", Reaction; "Oh, I never thought of that, sound convincing, now I'm terrified", Solution; "Give me your money."

However, in 'Freedom or Fascism'2006, at the very end he says:
"If you are fighting the system then you are still caught in it"
The point I am trying to make here is we, on these forums, should be less concerned with the characters* of David Icke's theosophy and more concerned with healing ourselves and others, (new age folk might say evolving or enlightening ourselves.)

(Some say we create our reality with our subconcious mind, some say on the '4th dimension' or 'christ-conciousness' thoughts instantly manifest and that on the '3rd dimension' or 'world of the 5 senses' there is a time delay (not sure why yet)#.)

* On these forums you might read:
-I saw a reptile!
-So did I and mine was bigger than yours!
-Thats nothing i saw al gore on television! and a no smoking sign which looked like WTC 1&2
-Yeah well my reptile taught me how to create an external merkaba using 3d animation software, so there
Etc. concern yourself not with characters

Another thing which frustrates me is why is the first thing you see on David Ickes site: "Hi I'm David Icke and I'm virtually alone, give me money"? Thats just rude.
Maybe I'm answering my own question here, he is a prophet, in this world. I was going to say, if one was aware of higher conciousnesses and 'creating reality', surely money would not be a priority?
Hmm?
If some new age folk asks for cash (excluding postage) turn away its a fraud**, if a new age person offers one on one help altruistically then maybe consider it.
**lol didn't that Jesus character have a similar tantrum? I dunno

anyway

What to do?
Step one: Look after your human. You have tremendous control over the body you live inside. Make it healthy, make it strong, we need warriors to fight this, not confused-angry people who want to save the world. Don't be too concerned about characters, If you are fighting the system and eachother then you are still caughtin it"
Step two: "The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."- Confucius. What ever your skill, simple or grand, do that, to help.

We're all in this together

# try it, imagine a Blue Feather, focus on its details, spend some time on this image, 'know' that it will be with you soon. You might find within the hour, or a few days a blue feather (or a picture of one etc) is observed by you.

ps my apologies if i made no sense or if this tread started is muddled, cluttered or illogical.

earthseed
09-07-2007, 12:50 PM
No offense but leave the lectures to David. You just come off as a bitchy little kid who doesn't like what their superhero is doing in your comic book. We don't live in a perfect world and no one is perfect in it. The biggest thing most people can do is try to figure out what is going on not give us one answer we have to follow. Existence is a constant journey of why and what next.

skel8tor
10-07-2007, 07:59 AM
No offense but you come off as a bitchy little kid who doesn't like what their superhero is doing .

Oh dude! Thats exactly, ... you are so right! I didn't even realise until you worded it so beautifully and eloquently.
My wake up has been difficult, perhaps venting a little anger is part of it, I hope no one got hurt especially in this group.
Yes, there is some residual immaturity in me. All in all I am grateful for the last 9months.

I would welcome other opinions on the details above though

leave the lectures to David.

This invites a little detail I decided not to include in the initial rant. Maybe its time to multiply? How about a number of other public speakers, with 'smiley-gladhand' charisma and sales rep skills, to present the lecture, 10 of them, 50 of them?. They might have to begin with "Hello my name is... This is not my work, I have not done the research, I'm simply here to pass on the messege of David Icke. And hopefully entertain and educate you along the way..."
If this concept has already been considered these forums, sorry and please direct me to it.

ps, earthseed, what is your picture?