Is love the most powerful force in the universe?

[lostinstrangeworld]

Do you think love is the most powerful force in the universe?

I've always felt this to be true, in my heart.

But can it be proven scientifically?

[bornagain]

Sure it is people kill for love, people are rude to other people because of love. People drive themselves insane for love, people rob and steal for love. People become jealous and vengeful because of love, people abuse others all in the name of love........:eek:


~Born Again

[logic bomb]

Yes.

[size_of_light]

Love is yet to meet...Chuck Norris. :eek:

[i_am]

Love IS the force

[themime]

No

[sevenworlds]

No, love is only a word.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I was looking less for opinions and more for links to interesting websites on scientific research, etc.

When some of you give your answers, you seem so sure of yourselves- but how can you be sure?

[element]

Do you think love is the most powerful force in the universe?

I've always felt this to be true, in my heart.

But can it be proven scientifically?

Of course it can't be proven scientifically. How do you want to prove something like that with empirical science? To check brain activity? That means nothing, and it won't give you a meter or something with 'low love' and 'true love' or anything. Science is such a limited thing!

Maybe existence itself is the most powerful force? And unconditional love being the strongest quality?

[size_of_light]

Do you think love is the most powerful force in the universe?

I've always felt this to be true, in my heart.

But can it be proven scientifically?


When some of you give your answers, you seem so sure of yourselves- but how can you be sure?

Science will never prove or disprove this to you in any satisfactory way. It's just more data open to endless interpretation and revision. The only confirmation is through direct experience and you're already on that path so explore it with every fibre of your being and come back to us with your own discoveries.

[lostinstrangeworld]

If I go within for some answers then I would say that:

Love is synonymous with "All is One".

If "All is One" is the truth.......

then love is the most powerful force in the universe.

:D

[sevenworlds]

I was looking less for opinions and more for links to interesting websites on scientific research, etc.

When some of you give your answers, you seem so sure of yourselves- but how can you be sure?

Any word, thought, feeling, experience, piece of knowledge that can be seen, measured, felt or communicated in any way has to be false. It has come from some source outside of yourself otherwise you would have no way of expressing it. That's the only thing I know and even that is just a way of putting it.

We only know of 'love' because we have been told so much about it by others.

[sevenworlds]

If I go within fort some answers then I would say that:

Love is synonymous with "All is One".

If "All is One" is the truth.......

then love is the most powerful force in the universe.

:D

You can't go within because 'you' have to disappear first and then what will be left to go within or without?

[les_paul_robot]

Hello. Is love a polar thing with an opposite, i.e. evil, or is evil just a lack of love?

[debs67gb]

hmm difficult I do love my children unconditionally would do anything for them as for any man that is was or maybe in my life I cant see Id love them totally lol sounds harsh but unfortunately is reality - I used to be in love with the thought of love but have seen and learnt you dont have to be with a guy to get that kind of reciprocated love :)

[lostinstrangeworld]

You can't go within because 'you' have to disappear first and then what will be left to go within or without?

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&ei=7jEUSfzBPKf22gLky9iCDQ&q=Nassim+Haramein

[sevenworlds]

Hi lost,

I'm not sure what the intent of that video was - it's 4hrs long! - but his concern for physics, chemistry, biology and blood sugar levels within the first 2 mins tell me everything I need to know.

[themime]

http://a322.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/117/l_c10196fa3d6f26784ebd4416fc72c1d9.gif



I LOVE this image, does that count?

[adimon]

I was looking less for opinions and more for links to interesting websites on scientific research, etc.

When some of you give your answers, you seem so sure of yourselves- but how can you be sure?

Hey, lostinastrangeworld.

Love as an objective value is a topic within many contemporary philosophies, and indeed scientific studies.

I would recommend the work of Ayn Rand from an objectivist point of view, but also the study of moral realism by Sam Harris.

The first two videos here are most applicable. Essentially, Harris's main studies are dedicated to finding out scientifically how different emotions and conditions engender happiness and sadness, love and suffering, in the brain itself.

Some folks on here would have you believe that Harris is the enemy of all intuitive enquiry, but I think that on inspection, his ideas have plenty of room for numinous investigation and things beyond scientific understanding.

Personally, I think that love, by my own definition, is linked to companionship and procreation, and therefore survival.

From an objectivist point of view, love for others is good provided it does not stray into altruism.

I am currently studying these ideas and mulling them over. I am not a subscriber to any particular doctrine. I like to window shop and exhaustively research things.

Hope this is useful for you.

Chris

[themime]

Imbalance is the most powerful force in the Universe, without it there would be nothing but stasis.

[kurupted_flesh]

How can we KNOW anything other than "I AM".

Some scientists believe all belief systems are based on insanity.

I do not necessarily disagree, yet isn't that sentence itself a paradox?

A solopisist would argue that theirs is the only philosophy that cannot be disproven, but with who would they be arguing??

Could God disprove solipsism? Or is he me, and everyone/thing else for that matter, thus making one's sense of self complete BS, and all action fundamentally utterly pointless?

Fuck it, gimme a pill!!

[fromthatshow]

I think a more accurate statement would be

Love is the ONLY force active in the universe

:D

[thelyran]

Love between us as a race,yes,indeed the most powerful force on Earth...

however,I would'nt tree hug,a super massive Blackhole...or the plasma spouts
ejected from it....:D...one's got to know their limitations.

[boots]

Yep love is the most powerful in the universe and it HAS been scientifically proven.

[empty v]

love vibrates at a much higher frequency than sadness and depression...

it also feels way more intense.


jerry & esther hicks talk about this same thing, that a positive thought is much more powerful than a negative thought.

[blondina1]

Yes :)

[zero1]

Evol - love backwards.

Love is the most potent unifying force in all of creation.

But a good tight fist is sometimes required for the evil f**kers who reject it.

Live - evil backwards. :eek:;)

[nirvana]

Love is a strong force but i think it can get out of balance .You can overdose on it and then walk around all dreamy eyed, and think the world is beautiful and love is everywhere and when all your defencies are down ,you could be mugged .

I think love is a very srong and good emotion ,but we need balance . Aggression is a very strong and powerful emotion ,when used in a positive way can save your life.

It all boils down to your environment. If you live rural area large open spaces
comfortable life stye then love can make your life even more peaceful etc.

If you live on a rough council estate you have to keep your wits about you and not get to carried away that the world is such a lovely place and everyone just wants love. This approach will make you a victim on some estates lol.



Peace:)

[rhydra]

Love is a confusion of emotions, a love for one individual is different from the love for another or a group, or an object, time, situation, piece of music. It is that confusion which make love a potent, yet dangerous emotion and force.
If asked to give unconditional love to the wrong person, or a god-like figure, don't.

[pinnochio]

Have you ever read or seen some of the peoples storys about dying then coming back. And they say when they're over there our earth human comprehension of what love really is is laughable.

One of my visions of heaven was. Its a place that when you get there. You become so overwhelmed by the true feeling of love and the beauty of it. That you just drop to your knees and breakdown, but tears of happiness. Then all our spirits kin comes up and says " where you been, we've missed you, welcome back and we love you" And when they say or project that true love onto you, oh mann!!

I also think if we felt true love in our human bodys, we'd explode or something or wouldn't be able to take it.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I feel that everything is love, because everything is born of love simply manifesting itself/ experiencing itself through creation. Along the way, when we enter the denser realities/ realms/ worlds.....we forget who we are temporarily because the dream we are experiencing is so vivid- a dream of separation. But in time, we remember again, often because of experiences we have which are painful but teach us a truly important treasure- the gift of EMPATHY.

The true nature of who we are/ finding "enlightenment" has got nothing (in my personal view from soul searching) to do with going back to some elusive blob of stillness you hear so many innumerable so-called gurus speaking of, who wouldn't know anyway because they are still here, in a mortal body.

People look to others for guidance who appear to us as wise and seeming to know things, ancient writings. What they don't realize is that the truth cannot be found from any of these second hand sources.

The truth can only be found be listening to that CLEAR VOICE inside your VERY OWN HEART.


I feel that the truth is a balance between the singularity of the center.....and the creativity that flows from it.

This world is not the only world; this dimension is not the only dimension.
The nature of reality here....a cycle of death and rebirth...a duality of joy and pain....is not all there is.

If we believe in infinite possibilities, then there is no limit to what can be manifested our created.

It is time for those who feel the calling to play a part in bringing "heaven to earth."
(I hope that doesn't sound too cheesy....I do try.....can't help it sometimes). ;)

[lostinstrangeworld]

Have you ever read or seen some of the peoples storys about dying then coming back. And they say when they're over there our earth human comprehension of what love really is is laughable.

One of my visions of heaven was. Its a place that when you get there. You become so overwhelmed by the true feeling of love and the beauty of it. That you just drop to your knees and breakdown, but tears of happiness. Then all our spirits kin comes up and says " where you been, we've missed you, welcome back and we love you" And when they say or project that true love onto you, oh mann!!

I also think if we felt true love in our human bodys, we'd explode or something or wouldn't be able to take it.

I felt moved by something a few times as a kid and what you are saying here resonates with me....even though I am human with human limitations.....causing me to sometimes forget. ;)

[amethyst]

Yes it is. Love never fails.

[pipsicle]

Why is love considered by some to be the greatest power?

[amethyst]

Why is love considered by some to be the greatest power?

I would say, because love overcomes all evil.

[nirvana]

I would say, because love overcomes all evil.


Unless you lived in Rwanda or bosnia when the ethnic cleansing was going on.

[themime]

I would say, because love overcomes all evil.

Maybe because love is a self fuelling emotion, where as hate/anger will in most everyday cases burn itself out quite quickly.

[amethyst]

Unless you lived in Rwanda or bosnia when the ethnic cleansing was going on.

Well, if those perpetrating evil decided to love instead of hate, then they would have peace there.

Maybe because love is a self fuelling emotion, where as hate/anger will in most everyday cases burn itself out quite quickly.

I agree. And adding, it takes a lot of exhausting energy to hate.

Love "gives".

Hate "takes".

[lostinstrangeworld]

Well, if those perpetrating evil decided to love instead of hate, then they would have peace there.



I agree. And adding, it takes a lot of exhausting energy to hate.

Love "gives".

Hate "takes".

So well said, Amethyst :)

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[amethyst]

So well said, Amethyst :)

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/love.gif

Thank you :)

I heard/read somewhere that you can't outgive "love" because love is a perpetual giving of itself that can never be stopped. Perhaps like what themime said "a self-fueling emotion'.....the only time it is quenched is when "we" stop it from going forth. We have a lot more power than we realise when we look it from that perspective.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Thank you :)

I heard/read somewhere that you can't outgive "love" because love is a perpetual giving of itself that can never be stopped. Perhaps like what themime said "a self-fueling emotion'.....the only time it is quenched is when "we" stop it from going forth. We have a lot more power than we realise when we look it from that perspective.

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A friend said:
"you can represent hate as a pyramid, and love as a circle

....a circle never ends because someone's always ready to pick a fallen member up"

[branjo]

You know that graph of visible spectrum of light, where its only a tiny little piece compared to the measurable spectrum that we can't see?

I would guess that even the scope of our emotions are that segmented, what we think is awesome now by our own interpretation of what love is, is simply incomparable and as weird as it sounds that amount of love would pop us like a balloon if we experienced it in its fullest.

Now imagine that is waiting for you every single time you die, maybe you have to leave your body to experience love of that magnitude, maybe your heart just couldn't take it, Now after seeing a love like that and realizing you are a part of that, wouldn't you return to this 3d world in order to just be a part of eternity, wouldn't that make it all worth forgetting each time you come back so its the freshest every time?

Is it love that keeps protons together, the gravity is how but could the why simply be another expression of love, or why the planets find eternal orbits, or how the atmosphere protects the Earth. Could that be explained as being bound eternally with love?

Yes love is just a word, but its a word that hasn't been ruined, even by us through all the carnage in the world through all of time, no one can define love with fact or figure but everyone knows what it is and what it isn't.

I think the tiny fragment we call love is like the umbilical cord to the divine, its the only thing that can stop hate, fear, rage in its tracks, and we all have the will to feel it any time, no matter how dark things get. Love is why we are here, and love is why we keep coming back. :)

[darketernal]

Absolutely. Love conquers all.

"The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe." Edward Walker in The Villiage

[pinkfreud]

You know that graph of visible spectrum of light, where its only a tiny little piece compared to the measurable spectrum that we can't see?

I would guess that even the scope of our emotions are that segmented, what we think is awesome now by our own interpretation of what love is, is simply incomparable and as weird as it sounds that amount of love would pop us like a balloon if we experienced it in its fullest.

Now imagine that is waiting for you every single time you die, maybe you have to leave your body to experience love of that magnitude, maybe your heart just couldn't take it, Now after seeing a love like that and realizing you are a part of that, wouldn't you return to this 3d world in order to just be a part of eternity, wouldn't that make it all worth forgetting each time you come back so its the freshest every time?

Is it love that keeps protons together, the gravity is how but could the why simply be another expression of love, or why the planets find eternal orbits, or how the atmosphere protects the Earth. Could that be explained as being bound eternally with love?

Yes love is just a word, but its a word that hasn't been ruined, even by us through all the carnage in the world through all of time, no one can define love with fact or figure but everyone knows what it is and what it isn't.

I think the tiny fragment we call love is like the umbilical cord to the divine, its the only thing that can stop hate, fear, rage in its tracks, and we all have the will to feel it any time, no matter how dark things get. Love is why we are here, and love is why we keep coming back. :)

:)



like amethyst said... love is all about giving, while hates just takes, takes and takes your energy away from you, leaving you drained. love, on the other hand, fills you up even more while you keep giving. it's wonderful.

i'd like to believe it's the most powerful (and ruling) force in our universe, because it just sounds so utopian, tbh. but i also believe love is truly worth all the fuss.. nothing can parallel it, and i think it's been the one constant through all the echelons of history and the million changes this universe has been through.

i don't believe in a religious godhead, but if there was a god that i'd worship, this would be it. when people say god is infinite consciousness, i think it's very strongly linked to love... the concept of all elements in this cosmos having a single, beautiful thread run through it, something that energises, uplifts, heals you and makes you fearless is not too far fetched. it is here, it should be our foundation but it's been slowly corrupted and brushed over by false reality...

i don't know if science can prove it and i don't care- i never really gave a fig about it anyway, except for biology. and we all know how love affects our biology, no need to elaborate on that :D

[nirvana]

Well, if those perpetrating evil decided to love instead of hate, then they would have peace there.



I agree. And adding, it takes a lot of exhausting energy to hate.

Love "gives".

Hate "takes".


Yes agree if those perpetrating evil decided to love instead of hate,there would be peace there.But they DONT.


So if you were in bosnia or rwanda in the ethnic cleansing time love would not of helped.

[blah]

Love and Hate are equally powerful.

[watson_k]

What do you mean by Love?

Unconditional love, like that of a mother and child?

or

Love, like it has come to mean in modern times, I Love the way he/she makes me feel. I Love Ice Cream. I Love Money.

What holds a Planet to orbit it's star? Is it not the same force that bring two lovers together? - Unless you're complacent in Gravity doing it, then ignore the last question.