My father sent me to the store with a shopping list among which he listed B-17. I never heard of it and looked and looked for it and even spoke to the pharmacist who claimed she had never heard of such a thing.
I figured dad wrote down the wrong thing and bought him a bottle of B complex. When I presented him with the bottle of B complex he asked where his B17 was. I told him there is no such thing. He said there is but it was ok that I couldn't find it. Then I saw it mentioned on David Icke forum.
I have been looking into the subject and it's illegal for OTC in the US and yes, I know why. There were probably people who took the supplement irresponsibly and got sick or died. But dad claims he's taken it before.
There are so many sites out there selling it that I don't know what's reputable and what's not. Can someone suggest a reputable site?
Many thanks in advance. (I'm about to leave the office for the day so I won't be able to reply until tomorrow.)
humito
23-03-2009, 11:49 PM
glad to see you are using ur office time wisely !
try these instead;)
Foods Containing B17 (Nitrilosides)
Vitamin B17 appears in abundance in untamed nature. Because B17 is bitter to the taste, in man's attempt to improve tastes and flavors for his own pleasure, he has eliminated bitter substances like B17 by selection and cross-breeding. It can be stated as a general rule that many of the foods that have been domesticated still contain the vitamin B17 in that part not eaten by modem man, such as the seeds in apricots. Listed below is an evaluation of some of the more common foods. Keep in mind that these are averages only and that specimens vary widely depending on variety, locale, soil, and climate. SOURCE: The Little Cyanide Cookbook by June de Spain - (former) FDA Toxicologist and Pharmacologist.
Fruits
Range*
Seeds
Range*
Beans
Range*
Blackberry, Domestic
Low
Apple Seeds
High
Black
Low
Blackberry, Wild
High
Apricot Seeds
High
Black Eyed Peas
Low
Boysenberry
Med
Buckwheat
Med
Fava
High
Choke Cherry
High
Cherry Seed
High
Garbanzo
Low - Med
Wild Crabapple
High
Flax
Med
Green Pea
Low
Market Cranberry
Low
Millet
Med
Kidney
Low - Med
Swedish (lignon) Cranberry
High
Nctarine Seed
High
Lentils
Med
Currant
Med
Peach Seed
High
Lima, U.S.
Low
Elderberry
Med - High
Pear Seed
High
Lima, Burma
Med
Gooseberry
Med
Plum Seed
High
Mung
Med - High
Huckleberry
Med
Prune Seed
High
Shell
Low
Loganberry
Med
Squash Seed
Med
Mulberry
Med
Quince
Med
Strawberry
Med
Rasberry
Med
Sprouts
Range*
Nuts (all raw)
Range*
Leaves
Range*
Tubers
Range*
Alfalfa
Med
Bitter Almond
High
Alfalfa
High
Cassava
High
Bamboo
High
Cashew
Low
Beet Tops
Low
Sweet Potato
Low
Fava
Med
Macadamia
Med - High
Eucalyptus
High
Yams
Low
Garbanzo
Med
Spinach
Low
Mung
Med
Water Cress
Low
Range*
High — above 500 mgs. nitriloside per 100 grams food
Medium — above 100 mgs. per 100 grams food
Low — below 100 mgs. per 100 grams food
Vitamin B-17 is one of the main sources of food in cultures such as the Eskimos, the Hunzas, the Abkasians and many more. Did you know that within these tribes there has never been a reported case of cancer? According to Dr. Krebs, we need a minimum of 100 mg of vitamin B-17 (the equivalent of about seven apricots seeds) too nearly guarantee a cancer free life. Foods that contain vitamin B-17 are as follows:
KERNELS OR SEEDS OF FRUIT: The highest concentration of vitamin B-17 to be found in nature, aside from bitter almonds. Apple, apricot, cherry, nectarine, peach, pear, plum, prune.
BEANS: broad (Vicia faba), burma, chickpeas, lentils (sprouted), lima, mung (sprouted), Rangoon, scarlet runner.
NUTS: Bitter almond, macadamia, cashew.
BERRIES: Almost all wild berries. Blackberry, chokeberry, Christmas berry, cranberry, elderberry, raspberry, strawberry.
SEEDS: Chia, flax, sesame.
GRASSES: Acacia, alfalfa (sprouted), aquatic, Johnson, milkweed, Sudan, minus, wheat grass, white dover.
GRAINS: oat groats, barley, brown rice, buckwheat groats, chia, flax, millet, rye, vetch, wheat berries.
MISCELLANEOUS: bamboo shoots, fuschia plant, sorghum, wild hydrangea, yew tree (needles, fresh leaves).
Two rules of thumb: According to Dr. Krebs, the basic concept is that sufficient daily B-17 may be obtained by following either of two suggestions:
First, eating all the B-17-containing fruits whole (seeds included), but not eating more of the seeds by themselves than you would be eating if you ate them in the whole fruit. Example: if you eat three apples a day, the seeds in the three apples are sufficient B-17. You would not eat a pound of apple seeds.
Second, one peach or apricot kernel per 10 lbs of body weight is believed to be more than sufficient as a normal safeguard in cancer prevention, although precise numbers may vary from person to person in accordance with individual metabolism and dietary habits. A 170-lb man, for example, might consume 17 apricot or peach kernels per day and receive a biologically reasonable amount of Vitamin B-17.
And two important notes: Certainly, you can consume too much of anything. Too many kernels or seeds, for example, can be expected to produce unpleasant side effects. These natural foods should be consumed in biologically rational amounts (no more than 30 to 35 kernels per day).
High concentrations of B-17 are obtained by eating the natural foods in their raw or sprouting stage. This does not mean that moderate cooking and other tampering will destroy the B-17 content. Foods cooked at a temperature sufficient for a Chinese dinner, for example, will not lose their B-17 content.
pumma
23-03-2009, 11:56 PM
D.I. Front page (on the right) :)
http://img.skitch.com/20090323-r7mj8xkxxytu2i4pgddnnm3tip.jpg
http://www.apricotshop.co.uk/
My cousin told me about B17 and I ordered some Bitter Apricot Kernels from here for me and my aunty who has cancer :
http://www.kernelpoweruk.com/
what he didnt tell me was they taste like amonds/marzipan which i really dont like :rolleyes:
Thank you so very much for your responses! I feel rather silly as I haven't looked at the DI front page in months. I just click on the forum link I have saved in favorites. :o
Getting dad to actually eat fruit other than a fruit pie is well.....impossible. He doesn't care for berries or seeds and prefers his vegetables boiled until mushy, what vegetables he will eat. This is the crux of my dilemma. He prefers to take supplement pills - the wonder of the modern age just as science promised the world when he was a boy.
I, on the other hand, don't mind fresh fruits or vegetables steamed and sometimes raw. And I will certainly try some your suggestions Humito.
1971, is aunty doing well? I've seen people bounce right back from cancer with flying colors and others require a length of time to recover. I hope she will persevere.
1971, is aunty doing well? I've seen people bounce right back from cancer with flying colors and others require a length of time to recover. I hope she will persevere.
Not really coco, shes recently had her voicebox removed and now has a hole in her neck. She knows its down to her mis-spent youth and knows she cained it to much ie abused herself. But shes in good spirts.
Thing is I'm so like her.
Not really coco, shes recently had her voicebox removed and now has a hole in her neck. She knows its down to her mis-spent youth and knows she cained it to much ie abused herself. But shes in good spirts.
Thing is I'm so like her.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the B-17 will stop the ravages of cancer.