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sophia_h
22-03-2009, 09:50 PM
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For any doubters still wavering:



This is made by a Persian living in Hong Kong

He has a most excellent Channel
visit there and attack him if this offends you
he will see your weaknesses, :rolleyes:


Meanwhile for the sane ones here this should
eliminate any lingering doubts that may have
plagued you as you dwell in this sea of filth, lies,
distortions, and TYRANNY.

Here is plenty to speak of while we still can here.

And a Joyous New Season to all as we enter into
an ENLIGHTENED ERA.


....



Vincit Omnia Veritas



YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3FxBsID-U




"The Second world War is being fought for the
defense of the fundamentals of Judiasm"

The Chicago Jewish Sentinel,
OCTOBER 8th, 1942



......................



" We Jews are going to bring war on Germany "

David Brown, President of American Hebrew, 1934

Edmonson's I Testify, page 188




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he has an excellent channel
many fine videos


IryanWarriorWithin

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=IryanWarriorWithin






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always_rebel
23-03-2009, 12:03 AM
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

"What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to produce in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind are tending to promote in other countries." (New York American Hebrew, 20 September 1920)

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan (grandson of Lazar Kagaonvich), The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

"We [Jews] have erred, my friend, we have most grievously erred.... We who have posed as the saviours of the world, we who have boasted of having given it the Saviour, we are today nothing else but the world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners..." (Dr. Oscar Levy, preface to the book The World Significance of the Russian Revolution by Professor George Pitts-Rivers of Oxford University)


http://serbialives.blogspot.com/2006/11/russian-revolution.html

sophia_h
23-03-2009, 12:10 AM
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Thanks for links always rebel




http://serbialives.blogspot.com/2006...evolution.html
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sophia_h
23-03-2009, 12:34 PM
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RIGHT OUT OF THE JEWISH OLD TESTAMENT



Rabbis: 'Kill the goyim'



'You are fighting a religious war against gentiles,'
— What rabbis told Israeli soldiers in Gaza War

The Daily Mail, London Friday, 20 March 2009

JERUSALEM — Rabbis in the Israeli army told battlefield troops in
January's Gaza offensive that they were fighting a "religious war"
against gentiles, it has been revealed.

An army commander wrote of the shocking command in an Israeli
newspaper today — one day after it emerged that Israeli soldiers
were told they could kill innocent civilians during the war.

"Their message was very clear: we are the Jewish people, we
came to this land by a miracle, God brought us back to this land
and now we need to fight to expel the gentiles who are interfering
with our conquest of this holy land," the commander said.

The account by Ram, a pseudonym to shield the soldier's identity,
was published by the left-leaning Haaretz newspaper in the
second day of revelations that have rocked the Israeli military.

They were leaked from a February 13 meeting of armed forces
members to share their Gaza experiences.

Some veterans, alumni of an Israel Defense Force (IDF) military
academy, told of the killing of civilians and their impression that
deep contempt for Palestinians pervaded the ranks of the Israeli
forces.

The institution's director, Danny Zamir, confirmed that Thursday's
published accounts were authentic.

'Tons of Psalms'

In longer excerpts in its Friday 'Week's End' edition, the daily
quoted "Ram" as saying his impression of the 22-day operation
was "the feeling of an almost religious mission."

It began when a devout sergeant in his unit "assembled the
whole platoon and led the prayer for those going into battle,"
he said.

"Also when we were inside they sent in those booklets full of
Psalms, a ton of Psalms. I think the house I was in for a week,
we could have filled a room with the Psalms they sent."

The officer felt there was a "huge gap between what the
Education Corps sent out and what the IDF rabbinate sent out."

The corps distributed pamphlets about the history of Israel's
fighting in Gaza from 1948 to the present, he said.

But the rabbinate's message imparted to many soldiers the sense
that "this operation was a religious war".

A squad commander from Ram's Givat Brigade, named as Aviv,
recounted his misgivings about orders to break down doors with
armored vehicles and shoot anyone inside, floor by floor.

In the event, the order was amended to include "operating
megaphones" so advancing troops could tell people they had
five minutes to get out or be killed.


Aviv said "there was a very annoying moment" when he briefed
his men and one challenged that order, saying: 'Yeah? Anyone
who is in there is a terrorist, that's a known fact ...

"And then his buddies join in: 'We need to murder any person
who's in there, yeah, any person who's in Gaza is a terrorist'
and all the other things that they stuff our heads with, in the
media," Aviv said.

The Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) has put the
Palestinian death toll during the war at 1,417 — 926 civilians,
236 fighters and 255 police officers. Israeli officials have
disputed those figures. Thirteen Israelis were killed.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak responded to the IDF revelations
yesterday by repeating Israel's description of its armed forces
as the most moral in the world. The IDF said its judge
advocate-general had ordered an investigation.*

According to a soldier named as Moshe, investigations into
battlefield conduct are not taken seriously.

He said the attitude could be summed up as: "It isn't pleasant
to say so, but no one cares at all. We aren't investigating this.
This is what happens during fighting ... "

*Standard operating procedure: When the focus of media attention is
turned off, the cases are quietly dropped and no one is ever punished.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1163508/You-fighting-religious-war-gentiles-What-rabbis-told-Israeli-soldiers-Gaza-war.html


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sophia_h
24-03-2009, 10:08 AM
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For any doubters still wavering:



This is made by a Persian living in Hong Kong

He has a most excellent Channel
visit there and attack him if this offends you
he will see your weaknesses, :rolleyes:


Meanwhile for the sane ones here this should
eliminate any lingering doubts that may have
plagued you as you dwell in this sea of filth, lies,
distortions, and TYRANNY.

Here is plenty to speak of while we still can here.

And a Joyous New Season to all as we enter into
an ENLIGHTENED ERA.


....



Vincit Omnia Veritas



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3FxBsID-U



www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3FxBsID-U




"The Second world War is being fought for the
defense of the fundamentals of Judiasm"

The Chicago Jewish Sentinel,
OCTOBER 8th, 1942



......................



" We Jews are going to bring war on Germany "

David Brown, President of American Hebrew, 1934

Edmonson's I Testify, page 188




.....................




he has an excellent channel
many fine videos


IryanWarriorWithin

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=IryanWarriorWithin






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the link again:


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3FxBsID-U


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misterethoughts
25-03-2009, 01:56 AM
Thank you for this.

sophia_h
27-03-2009, 06:06 PM
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WHY MUST I BE FORCED BY LAW TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING
I BELIEVE DIDN'T HAPPEN?

WHO IS GOING TO MAKE ME BELIEVE IN WITCHES
WHEN I WANT TO BELIEVE IN ANGELS?

IS IT A BATTLE OF THE WILLS, OR IS IT MENTAL RAPE
IF I AM MADE TO BELIEVE IN THE 'HOLOCAUST'?

-FREDRICK TÖBEN

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Adolf Hitler


He had a vision for a united nation. One built on pride, honor and loyalty.
Words and standards which today have been replaced with guilt, greed,
and power.

Hitler was a true Gentleman, women adored him, children loved him. His
character was very decent Man, he would not curse or allow any bad
behavior. He also took a demilitarized, zero pride, economic downfall

nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.

Other matters to note.

Between 1933 and 1939, the marriage rate had increased by 9.2%


Hitler turned around an economy.

Hitler set up a health insurance scheme for all Germans that only cost 10
cents per person per day that would fund the whole health sector. People
paid for what they used, hence no one could complain about
unfair taxes.

Nazi Germany was one of the only countries not to deny women the right
to vote during war time


Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty
which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this
existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify
Germany


Nazi Germany provided unlimited money towards an alternative fuel source
other than oil by investing in synthetic petrol and electric
power generation


Hitler also invested in anti-gravity theories.


Hitler invested heavily into rocket technology, the A-10 rocket was used
as the basis for the launch of the Sputnic satellite after WW2


Outlawed medical experimentation on animals.


He undertook a war against the Communist horde that no major power in
the world would do, or has done yet by the way.



He put the power of the state in the hands of an all

German state instead of the Jews.



His Nazi party was one of the first to start a war on cancer.



Under his leadership the first blood tests were given to drivers that were
under the influence of Alcohol.



The party, under Hitler's command, encouraged family morals, motherhood,

fatherhood, respect and honor.


Hitler was actually a believer in women's rights and
wanted to help abused and disenfranchised women. Hence the motherhood
programs came into place.


He was an environmentalist seeking to protect nature
clean air, water.



Brave and decorated soldier of WW1



Artist, lover of the Arts, both Classical music and Architecture.

He envisioned the Autobahn and Volkswagen.


Gave the German workers the first May Day.

Under "Strength Through Joy" gave paid vacation trips to
workers.



The National Socialist Party of Adolf Hitler gained 17,300,000 votes in the
election and gained 288 seats in the Reichstag. On 30
January 1933 Hitler was legally appointed Chancellor.

On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page
of the London Daily Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares
war on Germany: Jews of all the world unite", and followed with:



'The Israelite people of the entire world declare
economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as
the symbol of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews.

Fourteen million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The
Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the
shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine forces
in the holy war against Hitler's people.'




The German government was removing Jews from
influential positions and transferring power back to the German people
. This declaration of war by the Jews on Germany was repeated
throughout the world. The first boycott of Jewish business concerns came
after this Jewish declaration of war in April 1933.



Judea Declares War : This video examines the reasons why National Socialism
came to power, the role of the world's jews declaring war on Germany, with
a healthy helping of solid revisionist research on some of the lies surrounding
the "holocaust" fraud.


Judea Declares War on Germany 1

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bScdXLfZY



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Judea Declares War on Germany 2


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyT58_C6cjg&feature=related


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The Holohoax


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzNoFvD5jd4


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Atrocities against Germany When the average person is faced with the
question

"What do you think when hearing the term Nazi"?

Many will be quick to say - Well, they stood for evil, were led by Hitler, and
killed 6 million jews.

The truth is, you have one out of three right. Hitler did lead the National
Socialist. However, there was no bad or evil with the intentions of the party
or its leaders. The goal was pride, honor, and loyalty.
Germany wished only to removed a threat who had declared war on them first
.
They also wanted to retake borders robbed from them after WWI.


There is no disputing that Jewish people suffered a great atrocity and there
was a serious number of victims. But I feel not that the actual number
count is as what history books or films describe. I feel mention should
be made of the millions of others that also died during this time. The
following events list some of these.



Katyn Massacre - In 1943 the Wehrmacht discovered the mass grave of over
4000 Polish officers in the forest near Katyn and accused the Soviets of
having massacred them. It resulted in the murder of 25,700 Polish citizens,
including 14,700 prisoners of war being slaughtered. In 1989 Soviet scholars
revealed that Joseph Stalin had indeed ordered the massacre.



Nuremberg Trials- In 1946, the chief Soviet prosecutor
at the Nuremberg Trials tried to indict Germany for the Katyn killings.






Horror At Neu Stettin - ( Warning this link is explicit. Accounts of rape, and
mutilation of German woman at the hands of Soviet, and Polish) - The doc version (removed)




Louis Nizer What to do with Germany -

There are about 50 million German men and women
within the procreation ages, and it is estimated
that twenty thousand surgeons performing
about twenty-five operations daily could sterilize
the entire male population of Germany within
three months, and the entire female population in
less than three years.


The ''Morgenthau-Plan'' 14/08/1944 - total destruction of
German industry and the enslavement of the German race.



Theodor N. Kaufman (Jew) - wrote:
Germany Must Perish.


Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by
a very simple method: the mass sterilization of all German men and women
between the age of puberty and sixty years.


Dwight Eisenhower - Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans through starvation,
cruelty, and murder. His Death Camps.

Nazi GermanyNazi Germany or the Third Reich commonly refers to Germany in
the years between 1933 and 1945, when it was under the firm control of
Adolf Hitler's dictatorship and the ideology of National Socialism (a variant of
fascism and totalitarianism).


The term Nazi is a short form of the German Nationalsozialismus;

the ideology was institutionalized in the NSDAP
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei),
the National Socialist German Workers' Party, or Nazi Party for short.


National Socialism stood for much good like the public works program;
encouragement of the arts, music, and sciences; the building of roads and
communications; and cultural opportunities such as travel abroad for
underprivileged people at government expense.


60 Years after WWII NS symbols and books remain banned in Germany.
How can a nation be robbed of learning it's past?

Auschwitz is a constant topic of atrocity by the Nazi. Yet atrocities that the
allies did to Germany have never been accounted for, or made reparations
for.


http://www.finalsolution88.com/germany.htm

many of his vids are removed by tube
his channel is:

http://www.youtube.com/user/KosherRaus


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Learn of atrocities against surrendered German prisoners of war, and how
Millions of German civilians also died.

Buy these books now James Bacque.com

http://jamesbacque.com/




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sophia_h
27-03-2009, 06:10 PM
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Gregory Douglas on Nazi Camps




YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyH2-wcOnfM


KR:
However, lets not forget the 'alleged' gas chambers were
built by allies AFTER the war to the specs they imagined
Germans had intended. Any Auschwitz tour guide will admit it.








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sophia_h
30-03-2009, 07:06 PM
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'GERMANS ARE AMALEKITES'


An Army of Extremists



How some military rabbis are trying to radicalize Israeli soldiers

By CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS

Recent reports of atrocities committed by Israeli soldiers in the course
of the intervention in Gaza have described the incitement of conscripts
and reservists by military rabbis who characterized the battle as a holy
war for the expulsion of non-Jews from Jewish land. The secular Israeli
academic Danny Zamir, who first brought the testimony of shocked
Israeli soldiers to light, has been quoted as if the influence of such
extremist clerical teachings was something new. This is not the case.
I remember being in Israel in 1986 when the chief army "chaplain"
in the occupied territories, Rabbi Shmuel Derlich, issued his troops
a 1,000-word pastoral letter enjoining them to apply the biblical
commandment to exterminate the Amalekites as "the enemies of
Israel."




Nobody has recently encountered any Amalekites, so the chief
educational officer of the Israeli Defense Forces asked Rabbi Derlich
whether he would care to define his terms and say whom he meant.

Rather evasively—if rather alarmingly—the man of God replied,
"Germans."



NO GERMANS IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA




There are no Germans in Judea and Samaria or, indeed, in the Old
Testament, so the rabbi's exhortation to slay all Germans as well as
quite probably all Palestinians was referred to the Judge Advocate
General's Office. Forty military rabbis publicly came to Derlich's
support, and the rather spineless conclusion of the JAG was that he
had committed no legal offense but should perhaps refrain in the
future from making political statements on the army's behalf.



The problem here is precisely that the rabbi was not making a
"political" statement. Rather, he was doing his religious duty in
reminding his readers what the Torah actually says. It's not at all
uncommon in Israel to read discussions, featuring military rabbis,
of quite how to interpret the following holy order from Moses, in the
Book of Numbers, Chapter 31, Verses 13-18, as quoted from my 1985
translation by the Jewish Publication Society. The Israelites have just
done a fairly pitiless job on the Midianites, slaughtering all of the
adult males. But, says their stern commander-in-chief, they have still failed him:

Moses, Eleazer the priest, and all the chieftains of the community
came out to meet them outside the camp. Moses became angry
with the commanders of the army, the officers of thousands and
the officers of hundreds, who had come back from the military
campaign.

Moses said to them, "You have spared every female! Yet they
are the very ones who, at the bidding of Balaam, induced the
Israelites to trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor,
so that the Lord's community was struck by the plague. Now,
therefore, slay every male among the children, and slay also
every young woman who has known a man carnally; but spare
every young woman who has not had carnal relations with a man."

Moses and Eleazar the priest go on to issue some complex instructions
about the ritual cleansings that must be practiced after this exhausting
massacre has been completed.



RABBIS THINK THEIRS IS THE WORD OF GOD




Now, it's common to hear people say, when this infamous passage
and others like it come up, that it's not intended to be "taken literally."
One also often hears the excuse that some wicked things are done "in
the name of" religion, as if the wicked things were somehow the result
of a misinterpretation.


But the nationalist rabbis who prepare Israeli soldiers for their mission
seem to think that this book might be the word of God, in which case
the only misinterpretation would be the failure to take it literally.
(I hate to break it to you, but the people who think that God's will is
revealed in scripture are known as "religious." Those who do not think
so must try to find another name for themselves.)

Possibly you remember Dr. Baruch Goldstein, the man who in
February 1994 unslung his weapon and killed more than two dozen
worshippers at the mosque in Hebron. He had been a physician in the
Israeli army and had first attracted attention by saying that he would
refuse to treat non-Jews on the Sabbath.



BEHAVIOR STEMS FROM RACIST ATTITUDE



Now read Ethan Bronner's report in the March 22 New York Times about
the preachments of the Israeli army's latest chief rabbi, a West Bank
settler named Avichai Rontzski who also holds the rank of brigadier
general. He has "said that the main reason for a Jewish doctor to treat
a non-Jew on the Sabbath … is to avoid exposing Diaspora Jews to
hatred."


Those of us who follow these things recognize that statement as one of
the leading indicators of a truly determined racist and fundamentalist.
Yet it comes not this time in the garb of a homicidal lone-wolf nut bag
but in the full uniform and accoutrement of a general and a high priest:
Moses and Eleazar combined.

The latest news, according to Bronner, is that the Israeli Defense
Ministry has felt compelled to reprimand Rontzski for "a rabbinal edict
against showing the enemy mercy" that was distributed in booklet
form to men and women in uniform (see Numbers 31:13-18, above).



CUT OFF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL




Peering over the horrible pile of Palestinian civilian casualties that
has immediately resulted, it's fairly easy to see where this is going
in the medium-to-longer term. The zealot settlers and their clerical
accomplices are establishing an army within the army so that one day,
if it is ever decided to disband or evacuate the colonial settlements,
there will be enough officers and soldiers, stiffened by enough rabbis
and enough extremist sermons, to refuse to obey the order.



Torah verses will also be found that make it permissible to murder
secular Jews as well as Arabs. The dress rehearsals for this have
already taken place, with the religious excuses given for Baruch
Goldstein's rampage and the Talmudic evasions concerning the
assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. Once considered highly extreme,
such biblical exegeses are moving ever closer to the mainstream.

It's high time the United States cut off any financial support for Israel
that can be used even indirectly for settler activity, not just because
such colonization constitutes a theft of another people's land but also
because our Constitution absolutely forbids us to spend public money
on the establishment of any religion.




March 23, 2009
Slate

http://www.slate.com/id/2214440/





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Christopher Eric Hitchens is an influential author, journalist,
political observer and literary critic, as well as fellow at the
Hoover Institution. Currently living in Washington, D.C., he has
been a columnist at Vanity Fair, The Atlantic Monthly, World Affairs,
The Nation, Slate, Free Inquiry, and a host of other media outlets.


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sophia_h
05-04-2009, 03:09 PM
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EXAMINING JUDEO-CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY

What the Jewish Bible says about usury

"Unto a Goy thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother
thou shalt not lend upon usury: that ADONAI thy God may bless thee
in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land
whither thou goest to possess it." (Deuteronomy 23:20)

" ... Ye shall eat the riches of the Goyim ... " (Isaiah 61:6)




http://www.theneworder.org



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mynameis
07-04-2009, 07:35 AM
What the Jewish Bible says about usury

"Unto a Goy thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother
thou shalt not lend upon usury: that ADONAI thy God may bless thee
in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land
whither thou goest to possess it." (Deuteronomy 23:20)

" ... Ye shall eat the riches of the Goyim ... " (Isaiah 61:6)

This isn't bible study, but if you insist.
Perhaps this sheds some light into the misinformation of other people's ideology presented as truth.
http://books.google.com/books?id=t8VZga76bw4C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=Deuteronomy+23:20+Torah&source=bl&ots=jw5QJlmA_0&sig=cwYVLjI-EXrBnnOH0q_HbN30Qng&hl=en&ei=8PTaSeGoEqOoM_aR0MII&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10#PPA293,M1

Deuteronomy is the fifth book of the Hebrew Bible and of the Old Testament. In form it is a set of three sermons delivered by Moses reviewing the previous forty years of wandering in the wilderness; its central element is a detailed law-code by which the Children of Israel are to live in the Promised Land.

Deuteronomy 23

1He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

2A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

3An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:

4Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.

5Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee.

6Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever.

7Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.

8The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of the LORD in their third generation.

9When the host goeth forth against thine enemies, then keep thee from every wicked thing.

10If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp:

11But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again.

12Thou shalt have a place also without the camp, whither thou shalt go forth abroad:

13And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee:

14For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.

15Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee:

16He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him.

17There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

18Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

19Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:

20Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

21When thou shalt vow a vow unto the LORD thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the LORD thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee.

22But if thou shalt forbear to vow, it shall be no sin in thee.

23That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the LORD thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.

24When thou comest into thy neighbour's vineyard, then thou mayest eat grapes thy fill at thine own pleasure; but thou shalt not put any in thy vessel.

25When thou comest into the standing corn of thy neighbour, then thou mayest pluck the ears with thine hand; but thou shalt not move a sickle unto thy neighbour's standing corn.


Isaiah (Hebrew: יְשַׁעְיָהוּ, Standard Yəšaʿyáhu Tiberian Yəšaʿăyāhû ; Greek: Ἠσαΐας, Ēsaiās ; Arabic: اشعیاء‎, Ash-ee-yaa ; "Salvation of/is YHWH") is the main figure in the Biblical Book of Isaiah, and is traditionally considered to be its author. He was an 8th-century BC Judean prophet who declared that all the world belonged to God and that God will destroy it. "The land will be completely laid waste and totally plundered. The LORD has spoken this word." (Isaiah 24:3). Isaiah therefore warns the people of the world to turn back to God.

Isaiah 61
The Year of the LORD's Favor
1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners, [a]

2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,

3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the LORD
for the display of his splendor.

4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins
and restore the places long devastated;
they will renew the ruined cities
that have been devastated for generations.

5 Aliens will shepherd your flocks;
foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.

6 And you will be called priests of the LORD,
you will be named ministers of our God.
You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.

7 Instead of their shame
my people will receive a double portion,
and instead of disgrace
they will rejoice in their inheritance;
and so they will inherit a double portion in their land,
and everlasting joy will be theirs.

8 "For I, the LORD, love justice;
I hate robbery and iniquity.
In my faithfulness I will reward them
and make an everlasting covenant with them.

9 Their descendants will be known among the nations
and their offspring among the peoples.
All who see them will acknowledge
that they are a people the LORD has blessed."

10 I delight greatly in the LORD;
my soul rejoices in my God.
For he has clothed me with garments of salvation
and arrayed me in a robe of righteousness,
as a bridegroom adorns his head like a priest,
and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

11 For as the soil makes the sprout come up
and a garden causes seeds to grow,
so the Sovereign LORD will make righteousness and praise
spring up before all nations.

tothestars
07-04-2009, 09:01 AM
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However, lets not forget the 'alleged' gas chambers were
built by allies AFTER the war to the specs they imagined
Germans had intended. Any Auschwitz tour guide will admit it.








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So that explains the missing blue colors on the wall ait?

sophia_h
07-04-2009, 02:12 PM
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McCalden's Auschwitz - 1 of 10


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l3IC7ZvXzg




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1. NO GAS READINGS ON ANY WALLS
2. NO MASS CREMATORIUMS
3. NO MASS DEAD BODIES

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mikethepunk
08-04-2009, 09:19 AM
That guys channel is awesome!
The music is incredible.
That video blew me away and confirmed what I have thought was going on. The truth about world war two needs to be TOLD and KNOWN, it changed the planet, it changed our souls more than most people will ever know.

Thanks for the link.

sophia_h
10-04-2009, 01:02 PM
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Only the International Cabal fomenting a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
which has total control of all media and for 6,000 years has worked
relentlessly to gain this near all encompassing ownership of all news
and propagada speak could use such words of HATE and TERROR.

The reason is it is a cult based on HATE , WAR, TERROR, FEAR



and has systematically made war on all ethically based peoples
all thru remembered history, the last bastion of these being the
Germanic Peoples, Europeans.

Most of Europe went down the drain by WW2
The best of the best were murdered using the war as excuse
to wipe out the enemies of this INTERNATIONAL CABAL


All that is left now is AMERICAN WHITE MALES
those cowboy types who are descendants of the strong
European Tribal Folks


these are the last target of the INTERNATIONAL CABAL
as they are the last fortress fence to the last bit of this globe
the INTERNATIONAL CABAL wants to grab and rape.

IF the American White Male is fettered and decimated as is
now happening , .. there is no hope for humanity

we will have 25 YEARS of total GLOBAL
Marxist Communism TYRANNY

run by the neo cons who have NO allegience except to the
British/Israelite AGENDA that created Israel for a ignition switch
to start WW3.

when people see this is the agenda we CAN organize
it means washing out the mush fed into all human brains, lo!
these many generations to accustom all humans to total servitude!
( Orwell )


If people refuse to see this is the REAL AGENDA
because of FEAR of being called RACIST, NAZI, Anti Semite,
or anti balh ..blah ..blah...........

we CANNOT organize/unify and will just keep pushing each other
aside to be next to get into the gate to the CHUTE.


wanna stay in line to the abbatoir?

or recognize the patterns
and let go of the FEARS of being LABELED !



all life is choice

even a slave collar is choice...........


its all in what you ALLOW into your mental program. S.



........








"It will not be permitted for citizens of German descent to mingle
with the Czech population."



..............




"Peace can come to the world only by the total elimination of German and Japanese war power. [...] The elimination of German, Japanese, and Italian war power means the unconditional surrender by Germany, Italy, and Japan. That means a reasonable assurance of future world peace."


This shortsighted expression naturally contributed to the prolongation of the war, since it destroyed the possibility of a peace treaty. With this declaration of "total war for total peace" all bridges left standing were broken. The German government was made to understand that all diplomatic possibilities for peace would be for naught. Germany stood with her back to the wall. Was there any other possibility than to fight to the bitter end with the motto, "Victory or Death," and to use all possible military means to achieve victory?


..........................



In the course of a drinking party during this conference, Stalin proposed the following toast, which was received by Roosevelt with hearty laughter:

"The strength of the German armed forces lies in 50,000 senior officers and scientists. I raise my glass with the wish that they should be shot, as soon as we snatch them, all 50,000."


..............



Also the Americans were not averse to mass shootings. In Washington in August 1944 General Eisenhower told the British ambassador that all the officers of the Main Command of the German Armed Forces, as well as all the leadership of the NSDAP including town officials, and all members of the secret police, should be liquidated.
Just not to be misunderstood here: in this regard we are talking about some defenseless 100,000 human beings.




.................



Most influential of all, however, were the propaganda briefs of Ilya Ehrenburg. His book Voina (= The War), published 1943 by the State Publications Office for Fine Literature (!), Moscow, contains such expressions as:

"Germans are not human. [...] If in the course of one day you have not killed at least one German, for you it was a lost day. When you have killed one German, kill another - for us there is nothing more jolly than German bodies."





.............



The Soviet soldiers were roused to crimes against the German population and German soldiers not only from the political and propagandistic side, however. Also from the military side the message was unambiguous: In his daily orders for the march into East Prussia, Marshall Tcherniakovski stated:


"There is no mercy - for anyone. [...] It is unnecessary to demand from soldiers of the Red Army to show mercy. They blaze with hate and desire for revenge."



Other expressions call explicitly for raping German women and girls. German lawyer Heinz Nawratil refers to Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn, who in his novel Archipelago Gulag written in the period 1964 through 1968, mentions that

"[...] German girls could be raped and then shot, and it would almost always be treated as an incident of war."





...............





Nawratil also refers to Lev Kopelev, the writer, civil rights worker and friend of Heinrich Böll, who described the words of a Communist agitator as follows:

"What should be done to ensure the soldier keeps up his spirit for fighting. First, he must hate the enemy like the plague, must want to annihilate him root and branch [...] second [...] when he gets to Germany everything belongs to him - the bits and pieces, the women, all! Do whatever you wish."



...........



The lasting friendship of F. D. Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr., left in 1930, right on Nov. 6, 1943.

( Two jews with one agenda. Destroy that which stands in the way
of jew NWO ! )


Both the soldiers of the German army and the German civilian population suffered from such behavior on the part of the soldiers of the Red Army. The outrages were not isolated incidents, but were mass crimes known to the highest authority, and collectively would later qualify as one of the greatest mass crimes of modern times.


The hate tirades and incitements of Ilya Ehrenburg and his fellow propagandists by no means represented a exceptional or singular propaganda measure of the Soviet Union. War reporter Lieutenant Günther Heysing made a collection of quotations taken from Soviet publications and statements taken in interrogation of Red Army soldiers. This is from the soldiers' newspaper Boyevaia Trevoga of 20 October 1944:


"Shudder Germany! Shudder cursed Germany! We will crisscross you with fire and sword and in your heart we will stab the last German who ever trod Russian soil."




.........


A deserter from the 163th G.R. / 135th G.D. reported:

"Two weeks ago the column commander told us that soldiers could plunder and pillage freely on entering German soil."

A deserter from the 331st G.R. / 1104th G.D. confirmed this:

"Earlier it was forbidden to take booty, but now on German land it is no longer punishable. Everyone can take as much as he can carry."

A deserter from the 494th G.R. / 174th G.D. confessed:

"The company commander and column commander said that in German territory they could plunder without punishment and lay hands on German women."

Nobody paid any attention to Art. 28 of the Hague Convention on Land Warfare, in which it is expressly stated, that is was forbidden to release cities or settlements to be plundered, even if they were taken in assault.

Calls for persecution of Germans were the order of the day and not only in the Soviet Union. Both in England and the USA many propaganda writings appeared calling for the persecution of Germans and Germany. In England Sir Robert Vansittart was one of the most influential inciters of Germanophobic acts. As First Diplomatic Councilor of the British Foreign Ministry he was known in diplomatic circles as the "German-hater." In his books Black Record (1941) and Lessons of my Life (1943) he put forth the idea that the German people were the eternal disturbers of world peace, the "killer bird" among the civilized nations. For this reason, it was necessary to destroy this barbaric, aggressive criminal people with a killer instinct. Vansittart's influence was enormous. He was a key figure in the British war clique that advocated draconic measures against Germany.

Likewise in America a series of racist and anti-human publications appeared, such as What about Germany? (1942) by L. P. Lochner, How to treat the Germans, (1943) by Emil Ludwig, and Germany: To be or not to be? (1943) by G. H. Seger and S. V. Marck. When the Americans began the occupation of Germany in 1944/45, a booklet with the presumptuous title What to do with Germany? by Louis Nizer, a New York attorney and chairman of an aid society for Jewish immigrants, was distributed among the American troops for free.


In this book, Nizer recommended, among other things, that every German officer of the rank of Colonel and above should be brought before a court, that the German school system should be put in Allied hands and that heavy industry should be taken from Germany. This pamphlet did not represent an unimportant propaganda piece of an insignificant German hater: According to the blurb on its wrapper later US President Harry S. Truman was deeply affected by it recommended that "every American" should read it.




President Roosevelt distributed the booklet to members of his Cabinet,

while General Eisenhower sent out 100,000 copies and made the officers on his staff write comments on the book.


Despite the fact that Nizer's book teemed with tirades against Germany and everything German, the deadly little hate-piece was taken as bare truth by many important figures in politics and science, in the military and in the media. The principal theme in this and in other propaganda pieces was that Germany had played a unique negative role in world history which was expressed in her philosophy, her politics and the character of her people.


Nazism was just a contemporary expression of the inevitable German desire to plunder and enslave other peoples. All Germans, not just National Socialists, were branded as evil incarnate.


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The "Big Three" on Nov. 29, 1943, in Tehran

This neutralization - to be understood literally - could be effected in different ways. One way was the biological extinction of the German people, proposed, for example, by Theodore Nathan Kaufman, president of the American Federation of Peace. He belonged to the circle of Roosevelt's closest advisors and had direct influence on the decisions of the US President. In 1940, ten months before the US officially entered the Second World War, Kaufman published a book with the title Germany Must Perish. This little book dripping with hatred contains what has come to be known as the Kaufman plan, the scheme by which this Presidential advisor recommended the extermination of 70 million people of the German nation, including women and children, and the distribution of the German Empire among its neighbors. Specifically, the book stated:



"Today's war is not a war against Adolf Hitler.

Nor is it a war against the Nazis. [...]

It is a struggle between the German nation and humanity. [...]

This time Germany has forced a TOTAL WAR upon the world.

As a result, she must be prepared to pay a TOTAL PENALTY.

And there is one, and only one, such Total Penalty:

Germany must perish forever!

In fact - not in fancy! [...]




The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, about equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of German extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000. [...]


Concerning the males subject to sterilization the army groups, as organized units, would be the easiest and quickest to deal with. Taking 20,000 surgeons as an arbitrary number and on the assumption that each will perform a minimum of 25 operations daily, it would take no more than one month, at the maximum, to complete their sterilization. Naturally the more doctors available, and many more than the 20,000 we mention would be available considering all the nations to be drawn upon, the less time would be required. The balance of the male civilian population of Germany could be treated within three months. Inasmuch as the sterilization of women needs somewhat more time, it may be computed that the entire female population of Germany could be sterilized within a period of three years or less. Complete sterilization of both sexes, and not only one, is to be considered necessary in view of the present German doctrine that so much as one drop of true German blood constitutes a German.




( Think about it...why this obsessive drive to eliminate the last
bastion of Old Type European Honorable Folks ?
this insatiable need bordering on cannabilistic desire?

these are and some few still are the only bump in the
INTERNATIONAL CABALS MARCH TO JUDAIC-NWO,
without any strenght to rekindle the Gentile resistance ! S )





Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordingly in the span of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplished fact."



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In the title of his book Eisenhower described his war as a crusade, which is to say, a religious-fanatic war of annihilation.


" Crusade in Europe "









much more truth about the NWO need to remove
the ONLY remaining obstacle to the plan:


http://www.rense.com/general80/germ.htm





original article:

For a fully footnoted and cross-linked version, please go to www.nordbruch.org


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blah
10-04-2009, 02:22 PM
Ignorant anti-semites. Im sick of this nonsense here it seems more like a nazi forum at times. The prejudices that are thrown about are pathetic.

oiram
10-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Ignorant anti-semites. Im sick of this nonsense here it seems more like a nazi forum at times. The prejudices that are thrown about are pathetic.
All People look for is the Truth & expose the lies! Don't you understand this?
If not you are on you're own!
Don't hide behind the anti-semites labeling & Intimidation!
Face it you are wrong!
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Gilad Atzmon - Aaronovitch's Tantrum and the Demolition of Jewish Power
Please go to the page for many links to audio and video of this event.


Gilad Atzmon - Aaronovitch's Tantrum and the Demolition of Jewish Power
By Gilad Atzmon • Apr 7th, 2009 at 13:21

Last Wednesday, I participated in a panel that could have been a breakthrough debate on issues having to do with ‘Antisemitism’. The event was part of The Sunday Times Oxford Literary Festival and it took place at Oxford University. The discussion was moderated by the legendary BBC reporter Martin Bell. On the panel we had Nick Cohen and David Aaronovitch.  They were there to elaborate on the case of ‘new antisemitism’. Interestingly enough, Aaronovitch and Cohen were the prominent advocates of the illegal war in Iraq through the British press. They are also notoriously famous for their  Islamophobic ranting, as if this is not enough, they were also caught supporting the latest Israeli deadly campaign in Gaza. I was there to argue that antisemitism is a spin, it is a myth, I was there to deliver a very simple message: there is no such a thing as antisemitism.



I was looking forward for the event. I gathered that it might not be easy confronting Britain’s loudest Ziocon lobbyists alone. In fact I was wrong. It was a piece of cake. It was almost an effortless task to expose and demolish the lame Zionist argument, mainly because there is no such argument. Zionism is not a dialogical narrative, it is rather a pragmatic ruthless practice that seeks control of land and discourse.



I may as well say it, unlike Aaronovitch and Cohen, I believe in dialogue and I support every form of well-argued debate. In fact, I would debate anyone, whether it is a Nazi or a Zionist, whether it is a white supremacist or a Judeocentric Islamophobe agitator.  In my world, platform is granted to anyone who endorses a well-mannered conversation. However, last Wednesday, both Aaronovitch and Cohen didn’t want to debate or to argue. They believed that finishing me off would serve their cause. Funnily enough, not only did they fail, they ended up on the defence, begging for the audience to stop applauding and running out of sympathy.



Sadly, the panel was not very effective in elaborating on the given topic (Anti Semitism  – Alive And Well in Europe?). David Aaronovitch, who happened to be the first to talk, insisted that rather than discussing the subject, he would score more points citing the best of my published Jewels. He was determined to convince the audience that I was the lowest of the low and I should have never been invited to such a prestigious platform. This is not a joke. Aaronovitch who is notoriously famous for lobbying for a war that that has left (so far) 1.5 million civilians dead, a person that is engaged in spreading vile anti left and Islamophobic Zionised propaganda, is convinced that he is entitled to preach to the public who should participate in the discourse.  Aaronovitch foolishly anticipated that once he read my words, a gasp of resentment towards me would spread in the marquee. The deluded man must have invested an enormous amount of energy gathering these endless quotes. He must have read each of my papers, picking what he thoughtlessly and Zionistly interpreted as ‘outrageous thoughts’. I, on my side, was rather thrilled and amused. It doesn’t happen that often that people read my materials with such enthusiasm on such a prestigious platform. Neither myself nor my most devoted readers could do a better job presenting my ideas.



Sadly for Aaronovitch, his plan didn’t work out, there was not a single noticeable reaction in the room.  There was not a single gasp of resentment.  And yet, the truth must be said, Aaronovitch is a very talented melodramatic epic performer. He brilliantly over-dramaticised my ideas, he beautifully stressed the various variations of the different ‘J’ words, he would then slow down, stare at me with exaggerated contempt, he would giggle expecting the crowed to join him. But they didn’t.



For some reason that is far beyond me, Aaronovitch and Cohen failed to realise that Oxford University was not exactly a Yeshiva. It was not an occupied territory either.  It wasn’t down to them or the Israeli Hasbara Committee to decide who was entitled to engage in a public debate. If anything, the two warmongers should have had the minimum intellectual integrity to ban themselves from the public eye for advocating a war that led to a genocide. The two warmongers should have enough honesty to realise that if there is antisemitism, as they say, they must be the root cause for such a phenomenon.



Aaronovitch failed to grasp that people who attend literary events are largely curious and open minded, they are far more interested in listening to some enlightening ideas rather than being indoctrinated or patronised by a rightwing Zionist propagandist agitator.



Seemingly, Aaronovitch failed to realise that people out there do read the news from time to time. They read about Charles Freeman and the Jewish Lobby, they read about swindler Madoff, Lord Cash Machine Levy, Proxy donor David Abrahams, Labour Friends of Israel, Alan Greenspan and the credit crunch. People out there do realise that more than just a single prominent Zionist Jew is caught in the eye of the current storms (Iraq, finance, Gaza). Aaronovitch, who by his own admission, has been monitoring my writing for years, should have known that NO ONE out of the Jewish ghetto is offended by my observations about Jewish excessive lobbying and Zionist power. If anything, my stand against tribal politics makes me more and more popular within far bigger circles.



Needless to say, I myself have never sought this kind of fame. I am a Jazz musician, I run a very rewarding musical career. When it comes to my intervention on Jewish identity, I write what I regard to be the truth, realising that there maybe more than one truth. I publish my thoughts while knowing that my truth today may be shaken tomorrow. My task is very simple. I try to be coherent just to make sure that at least I myself manage to follow my thread of thoughts. I am aware of the fact that my writing may devastate some, more than once I myself happen to be concerned with the ideas I managed to reach.  Unlike Cohen and Aaronovitch, for me it has never been a political battle, it has never been about power or scoring a win.  It was always about ethics and intellectual integrity. Seemingly, ethics and intellectual honesty is exactly what the Ziocons à la Aaronovitch/Cohen lack. Seemingly, it is evidently the shortage of ethical commitment and intellectual integrity that pushes Cohen and Aaronovitch back to where they belong: the insular segregated kosher cyber ghetto.



Notably, both Aaronovitch and Cohen are famous for their incredibly deceiving call to “Liberate the Iraqi people”. The two Jewish Chronicle writers claimed to know what the Iraqi people ‘desired’. They were obviously wrong and the total Western defeat in Iraq proves it beyond doubt. It is obviously understandable and expectable that two Zionist Londoners would fail to grasp the true will of the Iraqi people. Yet, one would expect Aaronovitch and Cohen to know ‘something’ about the middle class crowd in Oxford.  At the end of the day, Aaronovitch and Cohen were raised in the UK and educated in British Universities. In spite of them promoting Zionist propaganda in the midst of the British media, they are still British, they should have known better.  I would also expect that after 200 years of ‘Jewish assimilation’, the tribal activists would learn something about their neighbours’ appetite. Apparently Aaronovitch and Cohen didn’t. The enthusiastic reception of my intervention drove Aaronovitch into a vile tantrum. “Shame on you” he shouted at the applauding Oxford crowd. Not before too long, Aaronovitch was caught on tape blaming HIS audience for being antisemitic. Clearly, on the recording, sporadic members of the audience are heard giggling at the embarrassing sight of a neurotic outburst of a decaying Neocon.



I do realise that my performance in Oxford was actually very symbolic in its resemblance to the success of the Iraqi resistance: though my English is rather broken, my grammar is faulty, my resources are limited, in spite of me being sluggish and slightly messy, the truth was on my side, or shall I say: the truth is in our side.  As far as public debate is concerned, Jewish tribalism, Zionism and Neocon precepts are indefensible.   We will win in every intellectual battle against those warmongers just because we are ethical, genuine and coherent. All we have to do is to survive their endless spin and slander.



Once Aaronovitch ended citing my ‘pearls’. Nick Cohen took the platform. He spoke about the Elders Of Zion. Like Aaronovitch, he failed to address the subject. It is clear that Zionist lobbyists really believe that focussing on a 19th century text would divert the attention from the current powerful elders who lobby for more and more global conflicts and biblical plunder. Cohen, I guess, must be convinced that as long as the protocols are alive in our thoughts, he may be able to advocate wars without us noticing it. He must be a fool. We do see him, we see it all and we do not like what we see.



“I refuse to accept the premise of the debate,” I told the people in Oxford. Antisemitism is a misleading notion. It is there to give the impression that opposition to Jewish politics is racially motivated. However, Jews are not a race nor they are in any proximity of any recognised racial continuum. Since Jews are not a race (though can be very racist) their opposition, at least currently, is not racially orientated or motivated whatsoever!



Antisemitism is nothing but spin, it is there to silence criticism of Israel, Jewish nationalism, Jewish politics and Jewish lobbies around the world. Rather than talking about antisemitism, we better talk about the rise of anti-Jewish feelings.



I am more than willing to admit that there is indeed more than one piece of evidence of growing resentment towards Jewishness and I am referring here to Jewish ideology and Jewish politics.  Yet, in a liberal society, political and ideological criticism is supposed to be a fully legitimate endeavour. As it happens, there is a growing rage towards Jewish politics and national politics in particular, but this shouldn’t take us by surprise considering the crimes that are committed locally and globally by Zionists and Neocons, whether it is Olmert’s genocidal practice in Palestine or Aaronovitch/Cohen lobbying for a war against Israel’s enemies and last pockets of resistance.



I was also willing to admit that some innocent ethnic Jews are caught in the midst of all this. This is indeed a serious problem and I do not have a simple answer to offer.  Yet, I would mention that my wife, my kids, and a few of my band members who happen to be of Jewish origin have never come across any form of antisemitic abuse. If we have ever noticed any abuse, it was somehow always Jewish violence against us in the form of death threats, smears, slander and spin.



In the light of this very simple observation, 2 questions must be asked.

1.    How is it that the campaigners against anti Semitism such as Aaronovitch and Cohen happen to be also muddled up with some ludicrous Islamophobic statements?



The answer is very simple. Those who preach to us about antisemitism are neither humanists nor universalists, they are just banal tribal activists that are committed to the interests of their ethnic group and that group alone. The very few sporadic gentiles who advocate this immoral discourse do it for the sake of political reasons. Within the Jewish terminology they are called the ‘Sabbath Goy’(1). They are there to work for the Jews and they are fully rewarded accordingly.



2.    We have good reason to believe that Aaronovitch and Cohen know very well that Jews are not descendents of people of the Semitic origin and do not form a racial continuum. Why then do they try to pretend that the negation towards Jews is racially motivated?



Again the answer is rather obvious. The Jewish ethnic campaigner will spin and cheat and spread lies because Jewish ideology (right, left and centre) cannot be defended or argued in rational or ethical terms. All Jewish national politic discourses are exclusivist, supremacist and racially orientated (though Jews are far from being a race, every form of Jewish politics is categorically racist to the bone. It is always about different formations of a ‘Jews only’ club). 



To a certain extent, I was very lucky to share a platform with Aaronovitch and Cohen for the simple reason that they are the ultimate embodiment of tribal activism and war lobbying in this country. Aaronovitch and Cohen, amongst a few other Ziocon protagonists, are the root cause of resentment towards Jewish political lobbying. It was almost entertaining to hear the Jewish Chronicle writer Aaronovitch denying being a Jew, presenting the lame pathetic argument that he had been in a synagogue just “3 times in his entire life”. Aaronovitch must have thought that he may get away with this new spin. He obviously knows that Jews do not have to believe in God, they do not have to go to synagogues, he must know also that even one visit in a synagogue is probably far more than the vast majority of humanity has ever experienced.  What makes Aaronovitch into a Jewish tribal campaigner is, for instance, the fact that he is listed on the Israel Hasbara (2) Committee as one of their authors. The Israeli propaganda (Hasbara) Committee, which lists Aaronovitch as one of its authors declares that its aim is:



“To promote understanding of Judaism and Israel”



Do you know any goy who is affiliated with the ‘promotion’ of Judaism AND Israel? Oh yes, Aaronovitch, has one spinning line he has yet to explore. He may suggest to us that he is actually a ‘Christian Zionist’.



What makes Aaronovitch into a Jew has nothing to do with his religious affiliation or belief.  It has nothing to do with the ethnicity of his parents. It has nothing to do with the shape of his nose or the tip of his knob. What makes Aaronovitch into a Jew and a Zionist one in particular is his affiliation with the most rabid, notorious, nationalist Jewish political school. What made Aaronovitch so spiteful and despised in Oxford had nothing to do with his father’s origin, it was actually his Zionist politics and Zionised tactics, it was his commitment to Israeli Propaganda, it was the fact that he lobbied for a war that made us all into war criminals, a war that led to a genocide of 1.5 million innocent Iraqi civilians.



Aaronovitch and Cohen may have learned a lesson in Oxford. Aaronovitch pledged never to see me again. Listening to the audio recording of the event and especially to his tantrum he has a very good reason not to. The contemptible Ziocon was exposed. However, in the light of Aaronovitch being listed as an Israeli ‘propaganda author’, and bearing in mind his being a lobbyist for an illegal war, Mr Aaronovitch is not exactly a Western liberal humanist. Seemingly, he is more of an Israeli patriot than a British one. This is something that his readers in The Times must keep in mind once Aaronovitch attempts to drag this country into another devastating global conflict.   


[1] Sabbath Goy (urban dictionary)- Originally, a non-Jew who does work on Sabbath that a Jew cannot do. In modern times, it is a non-Jew who toadies to the every wish and whim of the Jews, especially in politics, or a non-Jew who is heavily supportive of Israel.

[2] Hasbara –Propaganda (Hebrew)
http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/04/07/gilad-atzmon-aaronovitchs-tantrum-and-the-demolition-of-jewish-power/


http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=7950

sophia_h
10-04-2009, 04:05 PM
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http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15930&page=15





10-04-2009, 06:33 AM #149


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SHUT THEM ALL UP
or
LOCK THEM ALL UP!



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* This letter was never published by The Nation.




Letter to 'The Nation'

PAUL RASSINIER
1 October 1962

Dear Editor:

I would like to make a few comments about the book review by Ernest Zaugg (The Nation, 14 July 1962) dealing with my three books about the German concentration camps, the responsibility for World War II and the Eichmann trial (The Lie of Ulysses, Ulysses Betrayed by his Fellows, and The Real Eichmann Trial).

Genocide


Until Eichmann's arrest it was a sacred dogma of journalists to believe there were orders to exterminate the Jews issued by the top Nazis of the Third Reich. Nobody has ever produced such an order, but this has not prevented the theory that such orders were given from being stubbornly maintained. Then came the Eichmann trial. It was deemed necessary to prove that he was responsible for the exterminatons and had acted without orders. Hence, finally, the lack of evidence of such orders from the top Nazis was admitted. Dr. Kubovy, Directer of the Tel Aviv Center for Contemporary Jewish Documentation, wrote (La Terre Retrouvée, 15 December 1960):

No document signed by Hitler, Himmler or Heydrich exists which speaks of the extermination of the Jews. The word "Extermination" does not appear in Göring's letter to Heydrich about the final solution of the Jewish problem.

This is what I have been saying since 1948. It disposes of the theory of "deliberate genocide" in which Mr. Zaugg seems to believe.



Methods of Genocide


The official thesis is that 6 million Jews were exterminated, without orders naturally, as is now admitted. To exterminate such a number an extraordinary method was needed-to wit, gas chambers.

In this matter European public opinion has changed greatly since the first Nuremberg trials (1945-6). After a lecture tour I made in Germany covering a dozen cities, the Institute for Contemporary History (Institut für Zeitgeschichte) of Muenchen, a democratic institute, of course, was obliged on 19 August 1962 to state officially that "there were no gas chambers in any of the concentration camps in the territory called by the Nazis 'Greater Germany,' "none in Dachau, none in Bergen Belsen, Mauthausen, Ravensbrück, etc. One concludes that the witnesses in the 13 Nuremberg trials and in the Eichmann trial who stated under oath that there were gas chambers in these camps were no more than vulgar false witnesses.

Mr. Zaugg accuses me of whitewashing the Nazis and giving aid and comfort to the neo-Nazis. My answer to this charge is that the best way to give aid and comfort to the neo-Nazis, if such there be, is to accuse the Germans of crimes which were never committed. It is astonishing that after 17 years of false accusations more damage has not been done in this respect.



Auschwitz



The question of the Auschwitz gas chambers has not been fully cleared up. They are the only ones which are still a problem. Thanks, in part, to my research we know the following:

a) On 8 April 1942 the economic section of the RSHA (Reichssicherheitshauptamt) ordered from Topf and Sons, Erfurt, crematoriums (not gas chambers) equipped with showers (Badeanstalten) and morgues (Leichenkeller).

These showerbaths and morgues have been presented to the world as gas chambers. The official version is that these gas chambers were destroyed by the Germans on 17 October 1944 and rebuilt by the Russians after the war-just as the "gas chambers" of Dachau were built after the war by the Americans.

Now scholars are wondering whether the Russian-built gas chambers of Auschwitz are not perhaps "Potemkin villages," as are those built by the Americans in Dachau.




b) All witnesses at Nuremberg were agreed that these installations at Auschwitz which became "gas chambers" were constructed "in the heart of winter 1942-3," which means at the earliest the end of January or the beginning of February.



c) If these installations were gas chambers, they were at least not used as such "from autumn 1943 to May 1944" (Kastner Report, which, when printed by Kindler in Germany, was edited to suppress this passage). The only question that now remains is whether they were used as gas chambers from February until autumn, 1943, and after May, 1944.




We hope this will be cleared up in the trial of Richard Baer, camp commander at Auschwitz from 10 November 1943 to 25 January 1944. It is very doubtful that the gas chambers were used in the Baer period, which is perhaps the reason that since his arrest in October, 1960, his trial has been postponed five times. He was to be tried last November, but now the trial has again been postponed until spring! When and if this trial takes place the matter of the Auschwitz "gas chambers" will, we hope, be definitely cleared up.



There are only eleven doubtful months in which perhaps people were gassed in Auschwitz. How many people could have been gassed in these eleven months, if any were gassed?




The Six Million


It has been accepted as gospel truth that the Nazis murdered six million Jews. First question: where did they find these six million Jews, since the prewar Jewish statistics (Arthur Ruppin) prove without doubt that in the territories occupied by Hitler there never were six million Jews.



Furthermore, a booklet published July, 1961, by the Institute for Jewish Affairs of the World Jewish Congress, page 18, states that 900,000 of the six million "perished" in Auschwitz. Second question: where did the other 5.1 million "perish"? Not in the gas chambers of "Greater Germany," since the official Institute for Contemporary History of Muenchen has stated that they never existed.





Perhaps at Chelmno, Belzec, Majdanek, Sobibor or Treblinka, all situated in Poland? The only document which speaks of gas chambers in these camps is the Gerstein document. It states there were "gas chambers of 25 square meters in which 750 to 800 persons were exterminated at one time." Gerstein, however, according to the official version, hanged himself in his prison in Paris on 4 July 1945. The document he allegedly wrote was so obviously phony that it was rejected as evidence at Nuremberg on 30 January 1946, and not permitted to be read before the court.



Jewish statistics of the prewar period, compared with those of after the war, show that the number of Jews who died during the war in the camps or elsewhere was about 1 million, a large enough figure. To explain it, it is not necessary to resort either to "deliberate genocide" or to "gas chambers," since anyone who has experienced the concentration camps knows that conditions there were bad enough to account for a large number of deaths. Many were killed in the guerrilla warfare on the Eastern front and in the saturation bombings.



Everything else which Mr. Zaugg says against my books shows that his imagination is without limits and that he has great talents, not for historical investigations, but for "Wild West" tales. This is a general weakness of American journalists.


They do not realize that public opinion in Europe has evolved since 1945 as more and more light has been cast on wartime events. Most of the exaggerations about the concentration camps, the neo-Nazis and the revival of German militarism are fabrications invented by the manipulators of Bolshevism to isolate Germany from its neighbors and prevent the birth of the great nation, Europe.





By believing these legends the American press played the game of the Reds and helped lead the Slavs to the gates of Hamburg -- the Slavs whom Charlemagne threw back to the banks of the Vistula 1,100 years ago. Do these irresponsible publicists want the Cossack horses drinking from the Rhine and the Russian tanks parading in the Sahara? If so, they have but to continue to support the "historical verities" of the Communists.



Sincerely yours,
Dr. Paul Rassinier
Professor Emeritus




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* This letter was never published by The Nation.



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Bibliographic information Author:
Paul Rassinier

Title:
Letter to 'The Nation'

Source:
The Journal for Historical Review (http://www.ihr.org)

Date:
Winter 1981

Issue:
Volume 2 number 4

Location:
Page 305

ISSN:
0195-6752


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p305_Rassinier.html





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dogsmilk
12-04-2009, 02:41 PM
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

"What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to produce in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind are tending to promote in other countries." (New York American Hebrew, 20 September 1920)

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan (grandson of Lazar Kagaonvich), The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

"We [Jews] have erred, my friend, we have most grievously erred.... We who have posed as the saviours of the world, we who have boasted of having given it the Saviour, we are today nothing else but the world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners..." (Dr. Oscar Levy, preface to the book The World Significance of the Russian Revolution by Professor George Pitts-Rivers of Oxford University)


http://serbialives.blogspot.com/2006/11/russian-revolution.html

As of 1917, roughly 1000, or about 5 percent, of the 23,000 members of the Bolshevik Party were Jewish. By August 1917, 6 of 21 members of the Central Committee were Jews: Lev Kamenev, Grigory Sokolnikov, Jakov Sverdlov, Grigory Zinoviev, Leon Trotsky, and Mosisei Uritsky. The party census of 1922 showed 19,564 Jewish members, 5.21 percent of the total. By 1927, the 49,627 Jewish members comprised 4.34 percent or less. By 1939, only 10 percent of the Central Committee was composed of Jews. After Trotsky, Kamenev and Zinoviev had been ousted from the leadership in 1926, no Jews remained in the Politburo. In the Stalin era in the 1930s, Lazar Kaganovich became the only Jewish member of the Politburo – the exception that proved the rule. Of the 417 people who constituted the ruling elite of the Soviet Union in the mid-1920s (members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the ministers, and the chairman of the Executive Committee), 27, or 6 percent were Jewish. This proportion decreased radically in the 1930s, partly owing to the purge trials, which had strong anti-semitic overtones. During the Holocaust, the Stalin regime said very little about Nazi policies aimed specifically at Jews

Jeffrey Herf, the Jewish enemy p.96

Speaking of Herf,

Theodor N. Kaufman (Jew) - wrote:
Germany Must Perish.


Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by
a very simple method: the mass sterilization of all German men and women
between the age of puberty and sixty years.


Oh noes! Teh joooos is wanting sterilise teh Germans!

However,

Kaufman was cited by Nazi propaganda was being president of the American Federation of Peace and advocating extermination of Germans under the 'open secret' this was under the inspiration of Roosevelt. However,

No American publisher would publish it. Kaufman founded Argyle Press and printed and distributed the book himself through the U.S. Post Office rather than through bookstores. The book received only a few reviews, highly unsympathetic. Though sales figures are not available, its mode of distribution suggests they were minimal. There was no such organisation as the American Federation of Peace, nor was Kaufman known to be involved in any other American Jewish organisation, whether major or peripheral, or connected in any way to the Roosevelt administration. He was an independent, understandably very angry Jewish writer who published his own book. But the book had no importance in American politics or intellectual life, inside or outside the Roosevelt administration

Herf, p.111

So some bloke writes a book and it's suddenly a big Jewish master plan.

But wait!

There are about 50 million German men and women
within the procreation ages, and it is estimated
that twenty thousand surgeons performing
about twenty-five operations daily could sterilize
the entire male population of Germany within
three months, and the entire female population in
less than three years.

No, dimwit, he's speaking hypothetically. He goes on to say (p.6)

We must forgo the solution of sterillisation...At present it is enough to conclude that capital punishment or sterilisation for millions of people is impracticable and violates those moral precepts which limit even legalised murder

In fact, he doesn't appear to settle on any actual solution to the 'German problem'.
Still, it is pretty shocking some people considered such things, even if they were very pissed off and even if there was never any serious possibility of such things actually happening (and, ironically, ultimately West Germany emerged as Europe's economic powerhouse. I remember my father being fond of grumbling during the eighties that Germany and Japan won the war). Though certain others certainly did have a crack at mass sterilisation (which, funnily enough, Mr Nizer considers ("we must not emulate the abnormal even in wreaking vengeance upon them")

So speaking of sterilisation

Hitler was actually a believer in women's rights and
wanted to help abused and disenfranchised women. Hence the motherhood
programs came into place.


Awwww. That's really beautiful. Actually, Hitler was preoccupied with the Aryan birthrate and so was keen to encourage the 'right' kind of breeding. This certainly did include support for mothers as a matter of social policy and stuff like introducing childlessness as grounds for divorce. The ideal Nazi female was a breeding machine. Apart from the 'wrong' women. Which is where sterilisation (and of course later murder) comes in: To help illustrate this, here's a letter (I've excerpted to save my typing fingers) from Emma, 29, to the Hereditary Health Court.

I was informed in writing by the Hereditary Health Court in Offenburg of the decision of 15 May 1943 whereby I was to be rendered infertile. I reject this decision, and raise objection to it on the following grounds. For a long time my nerves were so overwrought that I had to obtain medical treatment at the psychiatric clinic at Freiberg. I was soon discharged from the clinic as my condition had improved. I soon returned to my job in the cigar factory, and since then I have worked there without interruption to the present day...

(goes on about how good at her job she is and how her nerves are better)

...I cannot understand why they want to sterilise me, since I have done nothing wrong morally or sexually. Every person can become mentally ill, which in my opinion is a form of illness like any other illness, and which heals itself again. It would be otherwise if I pursued sexual desires and wanted intercourse with men, or wanted under any circumstances to marry. That would be something different, but I am very reserved, and do not want to know anything about men. I do not need to be made infertile, it is not necessary in my case. I have never given and will never give any opportunities for sexual intercourse whereby I could become pregnant, thereby bringing suspect hereditary progeny into the world. Every person is different from one another, as is every separate case. I therefore make application to the Hereditary Health Court to abrogate the decision to sterilise me. I also petition for a re-examination of my psychological state

A higher court rejected her claim that she had a nervous breakdown and claimed to have evidence of 'hereditary schizophrenia'. In other words, a temporary period of mental disorder 'proved' latent illness

Michael Burleigh & Wolfgang Wippermann, the racial state pp.255-6

To put this shit in context,

In fact, in the five and a half years between the introduction of compulsory sterilisation on 1 January 1934 and the outbreak of war, about 320,000 people, or 0.5 per cent of the population, were compulsorily sterilised. Although this was nowhere near the 'optimal' figures in the minds of the scientists and experts, its scale can be grasped from the fact that with comparable laws, thirty states in the USA sterilised 11,000 people between 1907 and 1930. In Germany, the victims were divided equally between men and women.

p.253

Of course, it goes without saying, the Nazi attitude towards motherhood was rather negative when it came to Jews, black people and Gypsies.

Others too

In the regime's ideational scheme of things, the arduous and dirty work was to be performed by a racially-catagorised foreign workforce, which would become incorporeal during non-working hours. Many people were simply indifferent to this ghost army, which cleared up the rubble and tramped into factories, but which was barred from cafes and swimming baths. They also apparently took it for granted that 'Eastern workers' should be treated worse than their equivalents from France or Belgium

Pregnant or ailing women workers from Poland, Russia and the Ukraine were initially despatched to collection camps, and then returned to their country of origin in order to avoid the cost of having to care for them. This practice seems to have resulted in some women deliberately incapacitating themselves in order to be reunited with their famillies. It also resulted in the shipment of hundreds of pregnant or sick women back to Poland, where the German authorities were unwilling to take them. Seeing this barbaric practice would deter any future workers from wanting to go to Germany, so decisions were taken to solve the problem in the Reich. From 1943, abortions were encouraged for Polish or Russian women who were expected to bear racially 'undesirable' babies. If it was too late to perform abortions, then the babies were deposited in 'child collection centres' at, for example, Kelsterbach or Pfaffenwald, where they were either starved or murdered with lethal medication. The children of racially 'valuable' female 'foreign workers' were removed from their mothers and farmed out to German foster-parents by the Nazi welfare services.

Burleigh & Wipperman pp 262-3

Of course, as well as psychiatric disorders, the 'feebleminded' were also sterilised. Sophia dear, you should be careful what you wish for.


Speaking of women

Nazi Germany was one of the only countries not to deny women the right
to vote during war time

What a bizarre claim. Do you have any actual actual evidence countries suspended the vote specifically for the ladies during war and why? I mean, women finally got the vote in France (from the provisional government) in October 1944. The war being kinda still on at the time.
And what were these women voting for in Germany anyway? I think the opposition parties in Nazi Germany kinda passed me by. Don't tell me -they were allowed to vote for Hitler!

Speaking of one party totalitariansim

Under "Strength Through Joy" gave paid vacation trips to
workers.


Strength Through Joy cruises were an attempt to promote the new racially united Germany and weren't some apolitical benevolent gift You've read 1984, right? That bit about The Party organising your leisure time? It's the same kind of thing -the workers directed to 'wholesome', 'ideologically correct' leisure. Though it didn't in actuality quite work out:

Surveys of passenger lists of Strength Through Joys's cruise liners revealed that salaried employees were the largest single group, just as they were in ordinary tourism. Only 10 per cent of the thousand passengers on a Strength Through Joy cruise in 1935 were said to be from the working class; the rest were Party Officials, who drank the ship dry long before it reached its port again. 'These chaps are stuffing themselves with food and slurping up the drinks like pigs,' complained a crew member. Single women and young. unmarried men predominated amongst the workers, or in other words, wage-earners with disposable incomes rather than family men or mothers. Most of the workers on the trip were relatively well paid. The less well-off were usually heavily subsidised by their employers. The cost of the trips was still beyond the pockets of most wage-earners, who could only increase their income by working longer hours, thus reducing the opportunity to go on vacation. In many cases they could not afford the extra expenses that travel inevitably included, such as holiday clothing.

Richard J Evans the Third Reich in power p.471

Bored now.

dogsmilk
12-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Oh but just a couple more

The Israelite people of the entire world declare
economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as
the symbol of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews.

Fourteen million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The
Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the
shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine forces
in the holy war against Hitler's people.'


Why do you tactically omit that it also says

to stand by the 600,000 Jews of Germany who are terrorised by Hitlerite anti-semitism and to compel Fascist Germany to end its campaign of violence and suppression directed against its Jewish minority


This 'Jews decared war' shit is so stupid though it would take more time than I'm arsed with right now to explore every facet of its imbecility.

Oh and

Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty
which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this
existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify
Germany


Really? So what about Great Britain's Cruelty to Animals Act of 1849? Shit, what about the Massachusetts Colony Body of Liberties of 1641 which stated -

92 No man shall exercise any Tirranny or Crueltie towards any bruite Creature which are usuallie kept for man's use.
93 If any man shall have occasion to leade or drive Cattel from place to place that is far of, so that they be weary, or hungry, or fall sick, or lambe, It shall be lawful to rest or refresh them, for a competent time, in any open place that is not Corne, meadow, or inclosed for some peculiar use.



http://www.animalrightshistory.org/timeline-renaissance/war-nathaniel-ward.htm


Gave the German workers the first May Day.


Well he agreed with the unions to have it as a bank holiday right before he destroyed them. Obviously, the importance of the day as a celebration of the struggles of the common worker - though the day is ancient (and Germans among others had celebrated it for centuries) and it's a bit vague as to its exact origins, it had come to be associated with the struggle for the 8-hour day (something I seem to remember you've claimed Hitler invented in the past
- I'm just surprised you don't try to claim he invented the wheel and Christmas) and the Haymarket massacre. Obviously, the emphasis on worker solidarity to win rights from the boss class was the last thing emphasised in Nazi Germany.

dogsmilk
12-04-2009, 03:06 PM
That guys channel is awesome!
The music is incredible.
That video blew me away and confirmed what I have thought was going on. The truth about world war two needs to be TOLD and KNOWN, it changed the planet, it changed our souls more than most people will ever know.

Thanks for the link.

Some National Front cunt spouting drivel?

You're easily impressed.

dogsmilk
12-04-2009, 04:35 PM
(Hitler was an) Artist, lover of the Arts, both Classical music and Architecture.

Arnold Schoenberg: Lied der Waldtaube - YouTube

Jewish composer - banned

Krenek - Jonny spielt auf - So hier bin ich - YouTube

'Degenerate' - banned

Anne Kerry Ford Sings "Pirate Jenny" by Kurt Weill - YouTube

Jewish composer - banned

Mendelssohn 'Italian' Symphony No.4 - 1st mvt. - YouTube

Jewish composer - banned

Mozart-The Marriage of Figaro - YouTube

Libretto written by Mozart's Jewish collaborator Lorenzo da Ponte and usually performed in German translation by Jewish conductor Hermann Levi. New translation from a good wholesome Aryan commissioned to distract from Jewish associations.

cafetimes1991
12-04-2009, 05:22 PM
Nazi Germany was one of the only countries not to deny women the right
to vote during war time

I'm not trying to be smart, but what vote? Another lie from school?

dogsmilk
12-04-2009, 06:18 PM
* This letter was never published by The Nation.



Every newspaper gets crank mail. Do you expect them to publish it all?

dogsmilk
13-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Judea Declares War on Germany 1



www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bScdXLfZY


This is just incredible.
If you added a laugh track it could be re-released as a zany knockabout satire on 'revisionism'. Or it could perhaps be re-made with Christopher Guest playing the part of Toben.
It's actually worth watching just for the 'International Revisionist Videos' intro which is pleasingly kitsch.
Still, you can't beat the best:

Pearl and Dean 1970s - YouTube

In this first section, Toben intends to 'prove' the Zionists were responsible for World War II. After some bit where Toben shows us a door we're supposed to automatically assume has been there for sixty years, he then moves on to that article from 1919 which mentions 6 million Jews being threatened you see again and again on the net. I think we're supposed to think this is some kind of evidence the jooos were plotting the Holocaust for years or something. Exactly how widely circulated and read it was, exactly why early estimates of the Holocaust were figures like four and a half million (Reitlinger) or 5.1 million (Hilberg) and exactly how some article mentioning 6 million Jews being threatened is supposed to prove anything about anything is, of course, never explained. Anyway, enough of the foreplay. Toben's 'evidence' of Zionist blame for the war is as follows:

1/Ben Freedman's speech in 1961.
So a speech made by a Jew turned Catholic which has never been corroborated by anyone else or any documentation. 'Revisionists' are very fond of dismissing point blank the enormous amount of eyewitness testimony relating to the Holocaust but here we're presented with an expectation Freedman's word is gospel despite no-one else noticing at the time. How exactly the Zionists could bring America into the war is never explained. It also has absolutely zero relevance to anything the Nazis did as no-one even heard this claim until 1961.

2/Antony Sutton's wall street and the rise of Hitler
Whatever one may think of Sutton's claims, the blunt fact is he does not suggest Zionists or the Jews in general had anything to do with financing Hitler. He just doesn't support Toben's assertions at all.
In fact, in appendix 2 of companion book wall street and the Bolshevik revolution he explicitly rejects any specifically Jewish involvement in his own narrative. He concludes:

The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes. The evidence provided in this book suggests that the New York bankers who were also Jewish had relatively minor roles in supporting the Bolsheviks, while the New York bankers who were also Gentiles (Morgan, Rockefeller, Thompson) had major roles.
What better way to divert attention from the real operators than by the medieval bogeyman of anti-Semitism?


http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/appendix_02.htm

Let's also just note Toben has a rather cavalier classification of which banks classify as “international Jewish financiers” - sounds like to Toben if it's a bank, it's Jewish.

3/The Germans recognised they'd been “stabbed in the back by German Zionists and they resented this”. What a crock of shit. The Nazis always blamed the Jews for everything and did not specifically blame the Zionists. I mean, how stupid does Toben think his audience is??

In a short time this apparent struggle between Zionistic and liberal Jews disgusted me; for it was false through and through, founded on lies and scarcely in keeping with the moral elevation and purity always claimed by its people.
The cleanliness of this people, moral and otherwise, I must say, is a point in itself. By their very exterior you could tell that these were no lovers of water, and to your distress, you often knew it with your eyes closed. Later I often grew sick to my stomach from the smell of these caftan-wearers. Added to this, there was their unclean dress and their generally unheroic appearance...

...Was there any form of filth or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least one Jew involved in it?
If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light – a kike!

mein kamf p.53

There's pages of this shit, not to mention all the speeches, the Nazi 'racial science', Nazi Jew hatin' newspapers. Yet Toben is expecting people to believe on his word the Nazis were upset with the Zionists (the one Jewish group they cut a deal with with the Havaara which allowed Jews to emigrate to Palestine without having all their stuff nicked). And the noble intentions of some cunt with a crap moustache who thinks Jews are smelly. The scapegoating that went on was centred on Jews, not Zionists. Toben doesn't even try to evidence his claim because, to paraphrase Spinal Tap, how much more wrong could Toben be? The answer is none, none more wrong.

Incidentally, the 'stab in the back': phrase is very well worn and has an interesting origin.

(field marshall Paul Von) Hindenburg read from a prepared statement whose final flourish was a reference to the opinion of 'an English general' to the effect that 'the German army was stabbed in the back'. This was a subtle reworking of the incredulous response of a British officer to claims made by Kudenhorff: 'You mean you were stabbed in the back?'

Michael Burleigh the Third Reich: a new history p.51

Many Germans were perplexed that they had lost the war and wanted reasons to justify their sudden collapse. The Jews being one of the possible 'explanations'.

4/For the next bit, either the acid has kicked in or else Toben has realised what kind of audience he'll probably be attracting and decided he can basically just say anything and they'll lap it up. It's so utterly dumb I can't quite get my head round it.
He says there was an agreement with “German Zionists” to have “four million European Jews either emigrate or be deported to the island of Madagascar”. The international Zionists “fearing their their influence in Europe was dwindling fast met in Amsterdam in 1933” and “demanded Hitler stop the deportations immediately and take all Jews back”. When Hitler refused, they then declared “world war”.
Fucking hell.
So Toben wants his audience to believe.
a/Germany had power over “four million European Jews” in 1933
b/Germany was deporting Jews in 1933.
c/Germany was deporting Jews to Madagascar in 1933 based on an ill-conceived notion to deport Jews there which dates from 1940. It was fundamentally impossible to conceive of such a thing prior to then as Madagascar was French turf.
d/Needless to say the evidence offered of the alleged shenannigans with these time travelling Zionists is zero.
This just shows Toben assumes the kind of people who'll be watching this crap are pig-ignorant morons who'll believe anything they see on a tv screen. It really does beggar belief he can trot out this big pile of horseshit with a straight face. Even more so someone seems to find this video worth posting on an internet forum.

Faced with such vacuous drivel, it scarcely seems worth pointing out that the boycott:
1/Wasn't taken up by all Jews and was taken up by some gentile leftists who also had ample reasons not to like Hitler.
2/Wasn't popular with German Jews who feared a backlash escalating the anti-semitism that had led to the boycott in the first place and (naively in retrospect) thought the anti-semitism of the Nazis would calm down over time.
3/Wasn't popular with the Zionists.

Then – incredibly – Toben seems to think subsequent Nazi actions were justified. He seems to forget that putting Jews in camps at this point was only temporary and that the destruction of the Jews was an incremental process in Germany. As we all know, this included, forcing them out of their jobs, ghettoising them, forbidding relatrions between Aryans and non-Jews (well, non-Aryans actually. You couldn't marry a black person or Gypsy in Germany after 1935), the yellow star, banning them from parks, benches, restaurants, using public telephones and on and on and on.
Fucking hell, it's a bit like saying Israel has a right to put Palestinians in concentration camps on the back of 'boycott Israeli products' campaigns which are of course orchestrated by 'International Muslimry'.

5/Teh Protocolz.
Even my cats know these are a ridiculous fraud. Toben doesn't even attempt to demonstrate otherwise, just takes them as a given.
But, regarding these 'internationalists'...”they will even try to stop you watching this video!”.
Which we're watching on youtube.

So to summarise, Toben's sage history of the causes of world war II consists of.

1/A speech some guy made in 1961
2/A book by someone who totally disagrees with him
3/A painfully false claim the Germans “resented German Zionists” he doesn't even attempt to evidence.
4/A chronological impossibilty
5/Teh Protocolz

And that's it. This – apparently – is a convincing counter-narrative to 'official history'!
Toben isn't brain dead;. he has a doctorate in philosophy. He thus presumably thinks there are people out there dumb enough to swallow the biggest pile of shit in the history of things being shit. And then post it on an internet forum.

If memory serves, later highlights include some twat parading round in a chemical suit while the narrator soberly announces these were required to handle Zyklon B yet weren't available at Auschwitz!. This providing a 'revisionist' first as we venture into the heady terrain of delousing denial (not to mention they're nowhere to be seen in the blatantly fraudulent 'Zyklon B experiment' done by the same team). And, again if memory serves, they attempt to 'prove' outside corpse burnings couldn't have happened by trying to set fire to a telephone directory in a hole in the ground.
It would make a lot more sense if it turned out this 'documentary' had been written by Chris Morris.

Nice one Sophia. You've outdone yourself yet again.

leviathanstaar
13-04-2009, 08:11 PM
I never see Sophia rant about Jews nor make racist comments or jokes.
She prevents much evidence (adimittedly along with certain bias) and then leaves it to be dissected.

I dont agree with everything she posts, not by a long shot.

That being said, I see right through you people who just blab anti-semite at the first sign of discussion for one of the big no-no's

Well it isnt going to work.

As evil people in this world get exposed, any that happen to be jewish will be exposed to. I for one dont give a rat's ass what label or social anxiety someone tries to attach to the search throughout the info.

I look forward to a day when we really know for sure.
If it turns out people are wrong about zionists (i doubt it), then thats just grand.
If it turns out the jewish authorities have not been guilty of all thats accused than fantastic. Until such time I will gladly review the evidence.

Concepts like agree with us or your horrible are coming to an end. (albeit painfully)

The textbooks we have been givin teaching us what happened in every generation may very well be false.
We cannot look at every other aspect in which we are lied to about and say that simply cannot be the case with this one. It is ridiculous to think you truly 'know'

dogsmilk
13-04-2009, 11:01 PM
I never see Sophia rant about Jews nor make racist comments or jokes.
She prevents much evidence (adimittedly along with certain bias) and then leaves it to be dissected.

I dont agree with everything she posts, not by a long shot.

That being said, I see right through you people who just blab anti-semite at the first sign of discussion for one of the big no-no's

Well it isnt going to work.

As evil people in this world get exposed, any that happen to be jewish will be exposed to. I for one dont give a rat's ass what label or social anxiety someone tries to attach to the search throughout the info.

I look forward to a day when we really know for sure.
If it turns out people are wrong about zionists (i doubt it), then thats just grand.
If it turns out the jewish authorities have not been guilty of all thats accused than fantastic. Until such time I will gladly review the evidence.

Concepts like agree with us or your horrible are coming to an end. (albeit painfully)

The textbooks we have been givin teaching us what happened in every generation may very well be false.
We cannot look at every other aspect in which we are lied to about and say that simply cannot be the case with this one. It is ridiculous to think you truly 'know'

Well it has been my observation that Sophia makes many posts with the themes:
a/The 'white race' is under some kind of threat from immigrants, Jews, whatever
b/The Jews are to be blamed for just about everything.
c/Nazi Germany was a wonderful place and Hitler was a smashing bloke.
They're a self-confessed Nazi supporter. Not liking Jews kinda goes with the territory. It's like berating someone for calling a KKK member racist. And, no offence, but I'm getting a bit sick of this 'you can't call people anti-semitic' shit. There seems to be a bizarre new form of political correctness on this forum where people can come out with all kinds of racist, homophobic, anti-semitic bigoted shit, yet point out the fucking obvious and it's all "Noooooo!!!!!! You can't call people anti-semitic! That's not allowed!.
I see bigot, I call bigot. Simple as. And if I had more time I'd be posting in more threads, as there is some really repulsive prejudice kicking around elsewhere.
If people could get past their dumb insecurities and stop finding people that are a bit different to them in some trivial way to blame everything on, then perhaps we could finally realise we're all just human.

Anyway, Sophie's modus operandi is to cut and paste 'information' that supports these themes from an array of Jew hating/neo-Nazi/general we'll-carry-anything websites.
Then if they are challenged on the content of said information they
a/Make shrill, incoherent tantrum posts.
b/Ignore whatever is put to them.
c/Both of the above.

IMO they are a propagandist, a very unsophisticated one.
Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews.
Am I the only one that finds this obsessing about Jews you get round here a bit psychotic?

Frankly, in my book Sophia does little else but rant about Jews but does it via the medium of copy and paste as they are too inarticulate to do otherwise. I'm not surprised they don't tell racist jokes as they don't appear to have sense of humour.

Sure "textbooks" are wrong. How can they not be? New information emerges, debates are had, opinions change. Regarding the Holocaust, people are still debating how exactly it arose. Likely we'll never know for sure. But there is uncertainty and there is utter wank. And the Toben material I commented on above is the biggest pile of wank since Nelly The Elephant first encountered the thrill of pachyderm puberty. Seriously - do you think anyone in their right mind could find it plausible?
Anyway, the best way to judge the "textbooks" is probably to study them and then make up your mind. Not wet yourself because you've seen a dumbo David Dees graphic like a few people round here seem apt to do.

Look, chief, I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't know a massive amount about this subject but what I've encountered from the world of denial so far is a big mess of quote-mines, distortions, omissions and outright lies. Pardon me for pointing that out.

Concepts like agree with us or your horrible are coming to an end

Really? I don't recall ever telling anyone they had to agree with me or they're horrible. I couldn't give a shit whether anyone agrees with me or not - I just tell it as I see it.

That being said, I see right through you people who just blab anti-semite at the first sign of discussion for one of the big no-no's


Yes because that's all I do isn't it? What discussion is this exactly? With the possible exception of Astrochicken (who I kinda miss), could you point me to the actual discussion I've got out of these propagandising clowns recently?
What "big no-no's"? How can something that's constantly on the forum possibly be a "big no-no"?