one rule for "them; one rule for "us" ...

[yozhik]

Police in the UK will be allowed to hack into personal computers without a court order after being controversially granted permission by the Home Office.

The practice has reportedly already been quietly adopted over the UK, using technology to search computers of those suspected of cyber-crime and paedophilia.

Does anyone require any more evidence of there being two worlds, with one group supposedly "above the law?"

Sickening. :mad:

[aldrin]

Does anyone require any more evidence of there being two worlds, with one group supposedly "above the law?"

Sickening. :mad:
From what little I understand (correct meaning, not theirs!) it may seem they act "above the law", but i believe this is because 'they' know the system - they made it that way.

[yozhik]

From what little I understand (correct meaning, not theirs!) it may seem they act "above the law", but i believe this is because 'they' know the system - they made it that way.

Can you imagine if we were involved in any hacking activities and claimed we were searching for evidence of child pornography as a defence strategy? :rolleyes:

The way I see it, if it is a law, then it must apply to all.
Thats the definition of a "law"; all are equal before the law.

[chesterd]

I'm sure you're not surprised but when the lil buggers reach ministerial level they operated under PRIVATE ACTS.Just as the name suggests they are totally different from the acts and statutes that they think apply to us.:D

[yozhik]

I'm sure you're not surprised but when the lil buggers reach ministerial level they operated under PRIVATE ACTS.Just as the name suggests they are totally different from the acts and statutes that they think apply to us.:D

Interesting.

Two thoughts spring to mind;

1) I doubt the Police officers breaking the law and undertaking hacking, are covered by any Private Act.

2) The title of a Private Act suggests that it is privately owned ... might be interesting to find any details of an Act's "sponsor" :rolleyes:

[hey_jude]

I'm sure you're not surprised but when the lil buggers reach ministerial level they operated under PRIVATE ACTS.Just as the name suggests they are totally different from the acts and statutes that they think apply to us.:D

Yes, how can we be surprised at the way they have screwed themselves a fat wage with the ultimate in benefits and privileges. Sitting in the House of Commons bar drinking/smoking probably having a laugh at our expense.
All the while making it nigh on impossible for ordinary folk to meet their monthly bills nevermind plan the sumptuous holidays. And who could forget the 16 course dinners these pathetic leeches attend especially the food-aid variety!

gimmie the gun, gimmie the gun :D

They just have to GO ...they do not figure in our plan for a new society ...their time is over!

[stickwhistler]

Don't forget that the police are officially allowed to lie to us,
but will prosecute us for lying to them.

This has always been the case, and until things change
I can't see why people are surprised by what TPTB say and/or do.
They have no conception of integrity, truth, or 'oneness',
merely the 'urge to win'/score points/'show us that they can'!

Just another example of 'us' being their free-range slaves.

[stickwhistler]

.... Sitting in the House of Commons bar drinking/smoking probably having a laugh at our expense....

And getting a large life pension for 4 years in office as an MP!

[chesterd]

Here you go straight from the asses mouth oops sorry horses.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/chron-tables/private/introduction-to-private-and-personal-acts

[yozhik]

Just another example of 'us' being their free-range slaves.

Free range??
Hmmm ... with CCTV, Terrorism Acts, limitless "stop and search" powers, etc, etc ... one could argue that there is no "free range" about it!

[Ian2day]

Then they will be searching their own computers first then.

[stickwhistler]

Free range??
Hmmm ... with CCTV, Terrorism Acts, limitless "stop and search" powers, etc, etc ... one could argue that there is no "free range" about it!

Free range as is you get to choose where you work
and pay taxes from, rather than being conscripted
to work in e.g. a foundry, or army, or farm work.

In chattel slavery days, the slaves were allowed to keep 50%
of their produce to feed themselves and families,
so it is entirely arguable that we are actually worse off,
only being given the illusion of freedom by being able to choose
our master.

As long as you pay taxes TPTB aren't interested
in where you get the money from, as long as you give it to them.
Free range hens get to wonder a field instead of being confined
in a small box, but they still lay eggs - even though they think they are free,
hence the analogy.

In the UK we are taxed at over 50% (53% according to John Harris of TPUC) of our wages
with National Insurance, PAYE Income Tax, VAT, fuel duty, wines & spirits duty,
road fund licence, TV Licence, Council Tax etc.

[chesterd]

I watched a great little documentary today called The Big Swindle , on there it states around 70% flows back via tax.Have a look see what you think.
http://www.thebigswindle.co.uk/
Peace Chester

[tien an]

I watched a great little documentary today called The Big Swindle , on there it states around 70% flows back via tax.Have a look see what you think.
http://www.thebigswindle.co.uk/
Peace Chester

O.M.F.G.

The penny has now officially dropped.
The initial, month-long, angst that filled me when I first got into this whole subject has just been justified.

Let's get on with it then...

Heavenly Peace.

[chesterd]

Good for you.The biggest and yet simplest thing to re-learn is....KNOW WHO YOU ARE.The rest will come.Good luck and remember there are plenty that will offer help.
Peace Chester

[girlgye]

mate. I don't know where you live but in the UK Brown and cronies sanctioned a motion to tap all our phones at any time they please and they do. This isn't Peace men no - they've cut all the real peace officers back. No just the bureaucrats at the various BT account holding fictions that charge us a monthly fee for the privilage.
And..
Your emails are all read by the internet service provider. Anything suspect is passed on to the powers that be. They do this to see what advertising they can ply you with later on.
So nothing is private - nothing.

[yozhik]

Speaking of the UK and its cronies; has anyone actually looked at the background of Conservative leader, David Cameron? :eek:

David Cameron was born in London, but brought up at Peasemore, near Newbury, in the English county of Berkshire,[8] the son of stockbroker Ian Donald Cameron and his wife Mary Fleur Mount the second daughter of Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet.[9] His father was born at Blairmore House near Huntly in Scotland,[10] which was built by Cameron's grandfather Ewen Donald Cameron's maternal grandfather Alexander Geddes[11] who had made a fortune in the grain business in Chicago and had returned to Scotland in the 1880s.[12] The Cameron family were originally from the Inverness area of the Scottish Highlands.[13]

His father's family had a very long history in the world of finance: David Cameron's great grandfather Arthur Francis Levita (brother of Sir Cecil Levita)[14] of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers and his great-great grandfather Sir Ewen Cameron,[13] London head of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank played key roles in discussions led by the Rothschilds with the Japanese central banker (later Prime Minister) Takahashi Korekiyo concerning the selling of war bonds during the Russo-Japanese war.[15]

His great grandfather Ewen Allan Cameron, a senior partner with Panmure Gordon stockbrokers was also a notable figure in the financial world serving on the Council for Foreign Bondholders[16] and the Committee for Chinese Bondholders set up by the then Governor of the Bank of England Montagu Norman in November, 1935.[17] His grandfather Ewen Donald and father Ian Donald also worked for Panmure Gordon stockbrokers, his father also serving as a director of the estate agents John D Wood.[3]

Cameron has claimed to be a direct descendant of King William IV (4th great grandfather) and his mistress Dorothea Jordan (and thus 5th cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II) through his father's maternal grandmother Stephanie Levita, daughter of the society surgeon Sir Alfred Cooper who was also father of the statesman and author Duff Cooper, grandfather of the publisher and man of letters Rupert Hart-Davis and historian John Julius Norwich, and great grandfather of the TV presenter Adam Hart-Davis and journalist and writer Duff Hart-Davis (David Cameron's second cousins once removed).[citation needed] His mother is first cousin of the writer and political commentator Ferdinand Mount[18] and thus a second cousin of his wife.

The same names come up, over and over and over and over, again ...