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eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 12:41 PM
guys and girls...

I havnt looked at a nine/eleven specific documetary for about four years, I spent 3 yrs watching nothing but.....

Footage this, documentary that.... having been up the towers in '99 and then ground zero, I knew it was bullshit after about 18 months of deprograming everything i had been taught, etc(blah, blah, blah)

Then after a while started looking at the bigger picture, as it expanded like russian dolls, and as Im sure most people on here have done.

So I started looking last night at what people are talking about... orbs, birds, UAVs.... and look it makes sense alot of it....

The biggist thing that stands out is that these scumbags, did it sooo blantantly .... in such a fuck you way.... these fuckers absolutely took the piss out of us.... laughing... in hysterics as they completely fooled the mass,mass,mass majority of the world....

I try so hard to not give over to the hatred and the want to cut and kill... and I win... It doest take me over....

im just disgusted by it all...... absolutely disgusted...

dedicate
20-03-2009, 12:52 PM
I'm disgusted by 911 also. -- especially the Pentagon lie and people dieing the way they did in those Twin Towers. But it has taken me to so much other information that is even as much disgusting.

A list ___ My cousin who has an autistic child because of vaccines
The dumb-down population due to food, t.v, media, education
and medicine
The murder in prisons and hospitals.

And that we have become a population of slaves to a system we have not much power over, that uses us like we use cows.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no hope due to the extent of the devistation on this society. It would take us 40 years just to get back to a point where we could make progress.-- and we don't have 40 years and it aint going to happen.

eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 01:12 PM
buddy,

theres hope, plenty of it in fact...

theres thousadns of people who are waking up to whats going on... its a disgrace.... all the horrible shit they do... but they are losing.... they fuck our food, our brains, our kids, and were still here and we will see this through....

were gonna win.... weve already won.... they cant touch our consciousess....

and my dog is sleeping on my feet....

sorry to here your bad news .... and when I say that, Im alsotalking about my own...

dedicate
20-03-2009, 01:43 PM
"theres thousadns of people who are waking up to whats going on" -- true. But how many are awake to the situation that they are slaves or in prison or passed out in a coma on a hospital bed in need of intensive care? -- very few.
Even if one does wake up to being sick, imprisoned or enslaved,, that is only half the battle... breaking free from slavery is no easy task and will take years. ---- Breaking free from prison is almost imposible even in 10 or 20 years --- and being treated for a lifetime of serious abuse to the entire body one may never recover fully (think of an alchoholic or schizophrenic,, and what it takes to break free of those conditions.. like that).

eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 02:02 PM
I understadn where your coming from mate....

and yes we have been abused and are very far from where we idealy want to be.... we are reciever tansmitters of informationa d iformation is what we have been deprived of and is ultimately the difference between hell and paradise.....

the complete manipulation of what info we recieve from day one, turning day into night... leaving every generation with complete nonsense for an understanding, packed full of disease, and with nothing to eat but harmful substances, and in there drinking water and psychological bombardment... its dark.... but we will win mate... they cant touch our consciousness.. they can disruot my physical body, my spacesuit... and its only gonna get worse unless we crack the code and find an escape plan our kids are gonne have less freedoms and less chance to feed there family.... so we have to unite....

sorry about the typing, Im half pissed typing i the dark here... sweating heavily, I may add... in Mlebourne...

its not hopeless... its as hopeful as it has ever been...

matrix911
20-03-2009, 02:05 PM
"theres thousadns of people who are waking up to whats going on" -- true. But how many are awake to the situation that they are slaves or in prison or passed out in a coma on a hospital bed in need of intensive care? -- very few.
Even if one does wake up to being sick, imprisoned or enslaved,, that is only half the battle... breaking free from slavery is no easy task and will take years. ---- Breaking free from prison is almost imposible even in 10 or 20 years --- and being treated for a lifetime of serious abuse to the entire body one may never recover fully (think of an alchoholic or schizophrenic,, and what it takes to break free of those conditions.. like that).

now you're all finally beginning to understand how mr anderson felt when he took the red pill :D

dedicate
20-03-2009, 02:11 PM
It is true one could break free from any of these conditions in 2 or 4 years,, if one fully dedicated one's life to the endeavor.

But one would need the information to break free from the prison that one built for oneself and the information to break free from the slavery. Where is the information? It is not redily available.. (What slave system would make the information on freedom readily avaialble?).. And if one is Sick -- then one needs one to care for them. It is very difficult to become well on one's own with out care from another -- much money would be needed. So it is no easy task to become free and well.

Waking people to the NWO, currupt global system, and the lies we have been told is easy compared to what must happen -- find out how we got that way, and that some new government and social order is not going to be enough to make things better. Each individual has to radically change.-- freedom means not being dependent on the system,, any system. Aint gonna happen.

eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 02:16 PM
I do indeed my friend..

it so clear.... and Im delighted I know whats what....

having looked at this for 5 odd yrs now, I feel renewed...

you go through phases of having to stop ,to come up fo air, when the information comes too thick...

the most important thing is to recognise that there is nothing to fear.....

eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 02:23 PM
It is true one could break free from any of these conditions in 2 or 4 years,, if one fully dedicated one's life to the endeavor.

But one would need the information to break free from the prison that one built for oneself and the information to break free from the slavery. Where is the information? It is not redily available.. (What slave system would make the information on freedom readily avaialble?).. And if one is Sick -- then one needs one to care for them. It is very difficult to become well on one's own with out care from another -- much money would be needed. So it is no easy task to become free and well.

Waking people to the NWO, currupt global system, and the lies we have been told is easy compared to what must happen -- find out how we got that way, and that some new government and social order is not going to be enough to make things better. Each individual has to radically change.-- freedom means not being dependent on the system,, any system. Aint gonna happen.

wakig up to all those things isnt gona happen for all of us... in fact its gonna be very few of us comparitively.... ad socail change isnt going to suddenly swing into effect, the fact that over the last 20 yrs more people in the world have recognised the nonsense and have started disasociating the,sleves form all the beliefs they were taught and the false history that attaches themselves with they ego, and person (ie mr jones) is fantastic.... and we should be delighted that everyone has come as far as we have already...

Ill say it again there is more hope than at any point in human history... right now

dedicate
20-03-2009, 02:28 PM
I know,, I'm being negative (or so it seems). Maybe all I'm saying is that most all the things we have lived for and known to be true,, are going to go the way of the dodo. Either we kill the system or it will kill us. The system doesn't exist.., but we don't know how to live without the system (matrix). Getting outside the system is not easy. Waking people to the system is not easy.

anyway,, Yes,, I like that Matrix movie. I use the Mythic message/symbol of that movie often. For some reason that movie resonates true for our situation, even though it was Sci-fi. The Matrix movie is A True Modern Myth.

Is there a subforum call THE MATRIX? here on this site? I'm going to check that one out, later.

You've been good to discuss with,. YOu make some good points. Thanks.. I've got to go to work now. -- at least that is what i call it, 'work'.

later.

eyeballkid88
20-03-2009, 02:30 PM
laters... I get where you are coming from...

have a good day ;)

gebello
20-03-2009, 04:34 PM
We have to organize, internationally.

We have to break the language barrier.

All countries have some people that speak english, so these have to become the links and translators of the information to their own peoples.

We should make forums just like this one in all countries and link them all together.

zetetic0void
20-03-2009, 07:04 PM
"I try so hard to not give over to the hatred and the want to cut and kill... and I win... It doest take me over....

im just disgusted by it all...... absolutely disgusted"
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I have also gotten angry at certain people (eg, Bush, Cheney) when I saw them on TV (back when I had a TV) making speeches I saw as being total lies and cover-ups. Now I tend not to really be as angry at those individuals... in fact I start to gain a sense of feeling sorry for them and I wish they could see through their clinging to physical reality like some little kid clutching onto all the toys at kindergarden ;-)

At a partial level, I still am annoyed by them haha but there's another level now of seeing



Here's something to think about


What if 'you' had been born the son of G.H.W Bush or J.D. Rockefeller (or whoever else you want to list). Isn't it likely you would have grown up having a similar world view based on that particular environment and family. It may make people angry to hear but ... any of us may have been "George Bush" or David Rockefeller if we had just been born into those families by pure chance and had learnt our world-view from those environments.


So, can't it be said that it is pure chance (some may disagree) that you experience Reality from your point of view partially due to how you learned and were taught by your parents and environment just as much as how they learned?


They learned that they were on top and had privilege and some of them learned they could control and gain even more control and power.

If you look at it, it seems to stem from a basic primal urge of the physical being (body) to survive.


In prehistoric times, that spark of wanting to gain some control over the tough environment was a survival tendancy to overcome the reality that your death could come at any time through attack by vicious creature, starvation or exposure to elements.



Some people see this as a characteristic very deep and primordial in the physical characteristic of animals (including us). Within the human brain, this type of characteristic is in the physical layer we can label the 'reptile-like' level of the brain.


Could it be that these humans (Bushes, Rockefellers, Rothschilds) who just found themselves in the situations of having unimpeded access to becoming powerful, wealthy and controlling just had no limits to the activation of this spark of self preservation that it sort of took over their whole purpose.

.... they are affected greatly by tht reptile layer of the brain?


(another non-literal interpretation of the reptilian idea)


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I feel sorry for people who are so caught in seeing the temporary and always changing physical formations of the world as being absolute ... because they cling to the physical forms which is only temporary.

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It doesn't mean that we shouldn't act and learn and teach things about the unbalanced social structure because it means future physical beings born into this social structure (future children) will have to go through a problematic life.


My wish to have the social order altered into a more balanced one includes concern for the serfs who are controlled and also the kings who are on top.

Ideally I would prefer the serfs to have easy access to the needs of life and I would like to see the elites freed from their illusion of clinging to physical world for their own sake

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I'm not sure battling them directly will do anything but learning and politely telling people and trying to change the lower bricks of the pryamid (the serfs who support it at the bottom) could make the entire pryamid have to alter it's character.


If the lower blocks of the pyramid changes it's world-view, the whole pyramid will have no choice but to change.


As David Icke said in lectures .... we at the bottom support the entire pyramid.


It is hard for the lower levels to change because they have set beliefs and have been indoctrinated by media. Showing them how media indoctrinates them is one basic step in snapping them out of the 'matrix'

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I'm thinking some simple ways might be

- get rid of your TV (or at least cancel cable LOL)

- learn and understand your own self ... think about what makes you angry (I still do this haha), Read philosophies but be wary if clinging to them.


- buy food from local farmers markets instead of mega-corporations

- food includes meat and eggs if you eat those. Supporting huge companies supports horrible treatment of animals (including hens in cages with living space the size of a piece of paper!). If you want to eat meat and are concerned about how animals are treated, you should make the effort to make sure a local farm you buy eggs or meat from meets your standard of treatment. Some people don't eat meat but think eggs is automatically ok but they don't think that the hens are kept in such horrible conditions

If we are concerned with a social pyramid of us serfs at the bottom being eventually turned into slaves without rights, I implore people to think about this in relation to how we already threat billions of animals yearly.


- support your local artists, crafts people instead of buying crappy posters or mass produced ornaments from walmart.


- if you go out to eat, go to restaurants owned by 'real people' ... not chains with people in suits at the top. Stop going to huge mega-chains like McDonalds... support the real people who own their own restaurant.




I don't know... just some ideas

I think everything you can do to support real people instead of mega-corps is great.