BBC Claims Vaccines are natural!!

[queenofleon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7947863.stm


Sorry if this has been posted already ..but OH my days...no mention of the main ingredient mercury, and no mention of the linked deaths and autism statistics.

Why would I expect anything less from the BBC?

[simplysimon]

"You picked 1,4 and 5...."

No I fucking didn't! Since when has recycled bog roll been natural.

And this twat wants to persuade us that vaccines are natural...

[queenofleon]

"You picked 1,4 and 5...."

No I fucking didn't! Since when has recycled bog roll been natural.

And this twat wants to persuade us that vaccines are natural...

hehehe exactly!!

I think this shows utter desperation on their part and is really quite laughable.

[brainstormer]

In that case, it's natural to jack up heroin or cocaine.

[killmicrosoft]

In that case, it's natural to jack up heroin or cocaine.

yourd be better of with heroin or cocaine as you know what to expect and the problems your body and mind will have to cope with.

[patrish]

The only thing I ever had as kid was a sugar lump for polio. I tested positive for TB so didn't get the jab.

I've stated in another thread that I got all the diseases they immunise for now and I have never had flu. I believe this is because I have built up resistance. This something that younger generations have been deprived of.

There is nothing natural in injecting mercury or aluminium or drinking bl**dy fluoridated water. In facy its bl**dy unnatural.
Pardon my french but it makes me cross
If and when this mass poisoning all comes to light - there are going to be some very angry people.

Patrish x

[beldazar]

OMG! what complete waffle, sounds like the rambling waffles of people trying to de-bunk certain material you may find here, :rolleyes:

waffle, ramble, blah blah blah! :(

[hey_jude]

What a condescending article! He mentions "I could take pot-shots at health food stores and natural health remedies" - yes, I'm sure that's on his to-do-list!

I read some of the 'have your say' comments ...were they all paid by the Beeb to say such things? Only 3 out of about 20 against.

Utter rubbish!

I wrote to our primary care trust as they were proposing to inject girls at school - they maintain a 12 year-old can make an informed decision and consent. They received a polite letter telling them of my concerns about vaccines, my parental responsibility and my right to exercise it.

I asked them "what exactly is in the vaccine?" and "who manufactures the vaccine you will be using?"

Still no answer after 6 weeks!

[schaff]

What a complete idiot that has to be one of the most pathetic claims i have read :mad:if they keep pushing arsewipes like him to argue the pros of vaccines even the sheeple might start waking up to their bullshit:D

[eric_blair]

My baby is just over 12 months and the bstards sent a Birthday card with a threatening overtone stating its my parental responsibility to make sure my kid is MMR jabbed, I dont want her to have it, but Im up against it big time, my wifes family, my family. all our friends and work colleagues all putting pressure on me to get her done as though my not doing so somehow threatens them and theres.

Ive also been told she wont be able to go to school or nursery if I dont have her immunised? Ive looked into the mercury poisoning issues and researched the link with autism all making me feel extremely suspicious and uncomfortable about immunisation
Ive been told she can have them seperately but we will have to pay £80 per shot and travel 100 mile round trip for each one

I dont trust this Government or the NHS as far as I could throw them

[anthony65]

My baby is just over 12 months and the bstards sent a Birthday card with a threatening overtone stating its my parental responsibility to make sure my kid is MMR jabbed, I dont want her to have it, but Im up against it big time, my wifes family, my family. all our friends and work colleagues all putting pressure on me to get her done as though my not doing so somehow threatens them and theres.

Ive also been told she wont be able to go to school or nursery if I dont have her immunised? Ive looked into the mercury poisoning issues and researched the link with autism all making me feel extremely suspicious and uncomfortable about immunisation
Ive been told she can have them seperately but we will have to pay £80 per shot and travel 100 mile round trip for each one

I dont trust this Government or the NHS as far as I could throw them

The later your child gets vaccinated (if at all) the better!

[gilly]

My baby is just over 12 months and the bstards sent a Birthday card with a threatening overtone stating its my parental responsibility to make sure my kid is MMR jabbed, I dont want her to have it, but Im up against it big time, my wifes family, my family. all our friends and work colleagues all putting pressure on me to get her done as though my not doing so somehow threatens them and theres.

Ive also been told she wont be able to go to school or nursery if I dont have her immunised? Ive looked into the mercury poisoning issues and researched the link with autism all making me feel extremely suspicious and uncomfortable about immunisation
Ive been told she can have them seperately but we will have to pay £80 per shot and travel 100 mile round trip for each one

I dont trust this Government or the NHS as far as I could throw them

Your post really worries me Eric Blair.

I bloody wish I'd known all this when my kids were that age!

I understand what you mean about your family - there are plenty in mine who've openly admitted that they don't want to see the bigger picture, so I can sympathise with your position there.

Who's telling you she can't go to school or nursery? Ask them to justify that, because if everyone else there has had the immunisation, then by their own logic, how could she pose a threat to them even if she contracted any of those illnesses?

If it were me, I'd be demanding to know exactly WHY a 100 mile trip is necessary, when these vaccines are transported all over europe every day.

They're putting every obstacle in people's path.

I'd want to know how they justify the 80 quid a shot too.

I don't know if (politely) standing your ground at your Dr's surgery would do any good or not - ie. advising them that you need proper answers to these questions before you leave - but if you've not already tried it, I think you should.

The very best of luck to you.

[comma berenices]

The beeb have not read Dr rebbeca carly's book,maybe i'll send them a copy.

Proven facts about the dangers of immunisation.

[celtic isis]

In that case, it's natural to jack up heroin or cocaine.

haha! :D

[magicmerlin]

What this man is saying is that anything that is created can become natural as long as it's has an origin of being found in nature; the big problem is that through his ignorance he is exposing exactly what the potential problem may be with vaccines. Just a few examples of how nature doesn't mean good....

Glucose is found in nature but a bottle of lucozade isn't 'natural' or healthy
The weather is natural but weather modification isn't
Sound is natural but HAARP isn't
Water is natural but tap water isn't
Chemotherapy is based on natural compounds, but is it good for you?

[anthony65]

What this man is saying is that anything that is created can become natural as long as it's has an origin of being found in nature; the big problem is that through his ignorance he is exposing exactly what the potential problem may be with vaccines. Just a few examples of how nature doesn't mean good....

Glucose is found in nature but a bottle of lucozade isn't 'natural' or healthy
The weather is natural but weather modification isn't
Sound is natural but HAARP isn't
Water is natural but tap water isn't
Chemotherapy is based on natural compounds, but is it good for you?

Add GM foods to the list...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9379

I just started reading Seeds of Destruction:The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation by F. William Engdahl and monsanto and the rest argue that GM is "natural". they have a term for this "Unsubstantial something... I can't remember exactly, but it's basically lawyers speak and compete bollocks...

Monsanto made Agent Orange by the way! :(

[kingmonkey]

Typical double speak. I like it how they say vaccines are natural (or similar words) and then go and compare it to unnatural things! Fucking BBC...This is another classic:

How we need the government to protect us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7866833.stm

These people need weeding out.

[lottie]

My baby is just over 12 months and the bstards sent a Birthday card with a threatening overtone stating its my parental responsibility to make sure my kid is MMR jabbed, I dont want her to have it, but Im up against it big time, my wifes family, my family. all our friends and work colleagues all putting pressure on me to get her done as though my not doing so somehow threatens them and theres.

Ive also been told she wont be able to go to school or nursery if I dont have her immunised? Ive looked into the mercury poisoning issues and researched the link with autism all making me feel extremely suspicious and uncomfortable about immunisation
Ive been told she can have them seperately but we will have to pay £80 per shot and travel 100 mile round trip for each one

I dont trust this Government or the NHS as far as I could throw them

Dont be manipulated by them eric, which nursery is it that she cant attend? If thats the case...dont send her- pay a trusted friend who doesnt work to look after her or pay a nanny...sometimes these are cheaper... ive never heard of a nursery that asks for a vaccination certificate as a requirement to join tbh!!

I have the same problem, im pregnant and dreading the age when im threatened with vaccines, even worse for me is that my partner (baby's father) is a pharmacist.:eek:..so try having that argument!! lol!! Ive a big fight on my hands, bless him. :rolleyes:

TBH, what are you immunising them against? Measles, Mumps and Rubella (german measles) all not the end of the world if they contract it anyway...my brother had measles as a child and i had german measles as we wernt vaccinated and there aint nothing wrong with us - we've both got good strong mmune sytems, i also had mumps as a child, measles is no worse than chicken pox which all kids get at some stage.

Tell your friends and family she has been immunised if they kick up that much stink...thats what im goin to do. I dont advocate lying but tbh, who's bloody business is it what i do with my child?

[gilly]

Congratulations Lottie, on your forthcoming happy event!

[celtic isis]

poor eric and lotts with all of this to come...

Vaccines are crap, i had my last one at 18, the meningitis one and i was so damn sick after for a week i vowed it would be the last i'd ever have. Here in France you have a job getting round vaccine though, particularly at the compulsory medical before starting a new job to get your health insurance...fuck i hate this damn system. :(

Well my hubs had all the childhood diseases, a top doctor told his family the only vaccine that people should have is polio and tetanus, the rest are rubbish, and harmful to the system.

I had measles when i was only a few months old and it did me no harm, course then i had all my vaccines as my mum thought at the time like so many parents that vaccines were given to protect us!!

It's a toughy, particulary as Eric said for the child to go into daycare etc you have to have a note and proof from a doc that your kid has been vaccinated...even to go to school...how to get around this? Your kid is vaccinated or it doesn't go to school...

I recently asked people to join a group against vaccines, and i told my friends what is actually in vaccines (aborted fetal tissue, animal blood/organs, mercury, fromaldehyde, etc) still only about 3 out of like over 80 people took me up on it and joined the group. Not much hope there then!

:eek:

[beldazar]

Im so sorry to hear that Eric, Lotties advice is sound. It does look like lying is the only option :(

Well Celtic, that doesnt look good eh? Stupid, stupid people!!!

I had an interview with my sons teacher the other day, I dropped in the vaccination bit :cool:
She said I sounded like her mum since she wasnt vaccinated, what a smart mum she has! I wish I had been that smart.:o Ah well, lesson learned. If a needle comes anywhere near my boys, apart from a knitting needle, I will freak! :mad:

[anthony65]

poor eric and lotts with all of this to come...




I disagree.

Lucky Eric, Lottie (and me!).

Our children can teach us so much.

The love we feel for our children is an incredibly strong motivation.

Have we already surrendered?

Don't we believe that the future can be as beautiful as we know is possible?

And it is possible!

I have no doubts whatsoever.

Incredible resources are spent in fucking up the planet.

Yet, today I look out of the window and see the most beautiful skies.

Enjoy your pregnancy as much as you can Lottie! :)

Your child is already part of the family.

All the love you give now will be received.

My first child used to love being massaged inside her mum's tummy!

And she recognized the music we played to her when she was a few days old. Her look was saying "What? You have that music here too?" :D

** Again, the Masuro Emoto books are a great reminder of the power of our emotions.

[celtic isis]

I disagree.

Lucky Eric, Lottie (and me!).

Our children can teach us so much.

The love we feel for our children is an incredibly strong motivation.

Have we already surrendered?

Don't we believe that the future can be as beautiful as we know is possible?

And it is possible!

I have no doubts whatsoever.

Incredible resources are spent in fucking up the planet.

Yet, today I look out of the window and see the most beautiful skies.

Enjoy your pregnancy as much as you can Lottie! :)

Your child is already part of the family.

All the love you give now will be received.

My first child used to love being massaged inside her mum's tummy!

And she recognized the music we played to her when she was a few days old. Her look was saying "What? You have that music here too?" :D

** Again, the Masuro Emoto books are a great reminder of the power of our emotions.

lol i didn't mean it like that!

but have you tried having a conversation with family members who have their babies vaccinated with like 30 vaccines by the time the kids are 2?!

I just mean Eric and Lotts will have to really be strong to get around the system. That's all!

Because at the end of the day it is the system that rules.

This is a discussion about vaccines and the system, of course lottie can enjoy her baby and being pregnant and she'll be a wonderful mum, i was just trying to be understanding as to what poor parent's have to face these days.

[beldazar]

Itsust dear Anthony trying to spread a little positivity again. He knows what you meant really.......;)

[celtic isis]

Also one of my little cousins is just recovering from meningitis and blood poisoning, you think his mum and dad are debating over whether vaccines are safe or not as a result of this experience? They've all been on antibiotics since as a "precaution", they do what the docs advise...their little boy could have lost his legs or died according to the docs...i'd say people around won't be able to get their kids vaccinated quick enough now.

Parents get scared, thus vaccinate.

And you can't even have the debate with them about it, they just attack you straight away and in the end go ahead with the vaccinating.

Hence why i'm not a parent right now, i'm way too immature to look after myself nevermind another's life lol

It's too hard!

[celtic isis]

Itsust dear Anthony trying to spread a little positivity again. He knows what you meant really.......;)

;)

he didn't have to pick on my post though when mine was hardly the only negative one! and he's talking to me on another thread, i don't like when people follow around and then pick on what i said...

anyway i've no kids i'm out of here!

none of my beeswax, even though i was only trying to be understanding lol :confused::)

it's the system that makes it negative.

[hey_jude]

My eldest daughter is an EMD with the London Ambulance Service and when in training the Paramedics told her whole class that the govt. flu jab was a slow death sentence! That coming from NHS health professionals is very damning!

Eric Blair - you're being bullied into it!

My children all had late vaccines years ago, the health visitors were always telling me off ...now I wish I hadn't allowed it at all.

peace :)

[lottie]

The trouble is - i had high hopes for my boy- as soon as he plopped out he was to have NO injections what-so-ever in his tiny innocent pure body but he has complications and as soon as he's born is going to require ICU and possibly operations thus meaning he'll have every shit pumped into him imaginable... i'll be recovering from c-sction and im worried my OH will just 'ok' everything and also i dont want to jeapordise his life- he needs some of the stuff he'll be getting but i just want a step by step account of EVERYTHING they put in his body without it looking as though im compromising his care or life...these people are afterall only trying to ensure he survives. What i dont want is them sneakily putting vaccines in him but the way things will be at his bith im not sure i'll be in a position to argue or say!! :confused:

[hey_jude]

I disagree.

Lucky Eric, Lottie (and me!).

Our children can teach us so much.

The love we feel for our children is an incredibly strong motivation.

Have we already surrendered?

Don't we believe that the future can be as beautiful as we know is possible?

And it is possible!

I have no doubts whatsoever.

Incredible resources are spent in fucking up the planet.

Yet, today I look out of the window and see the most beautiful skies.

Enjoy your pregnancy as much as you can Lottie! :)

Your child is already part of the family.

All the love you give now will be received.

My first child used to love being massaged inside her mum's tummy!

And she recognized the music we played to her when she was a few days old. Her look was saying "What? You have that music here too?" :D

** Again, the Masuro Emoto books are a great reminder of the power of our emotions.

ditto

peace :)

[lottie]

;)

he didn't have to pick on my post though when mine was hardly the only negative one! and he's talking to me on another thread, i don't like when people follow around and then pick on what i said...

anyway i've no kids i'm out of here!

none of my beeswax, even though i was only trying to be understanding lol :confused::)

it's the system that makes it negative.

He wasnt picking on you honey...he was just suggesting he was looking at itfrom a dfferent perspective, just coz you aint got kids dont mean you aint entitled to an opinion!! :);) Sound like im a londoner dont i? lol!! :D

[celtic isis]

The trouble is - i had high hopes for my boy- as soon as he plopped out he was to have NO injections what-so-ever in his tiny innocent pure body but he has complications and as soon as he's born is going to require ICU and possibly operations thus meaning he'll have every shit pumped into him imaginable... i'll be recovering from c-sction and im worried my OH will just 'ok' everything and also i dont want to jeapordise his life- he needs some of the stuff he'll be getting but i just want a step by step account of EVERYTHING they put in his body without it looking as though im compromising his care or life...these people are afterall only trying to ensure he survives. What i dont want is them sneakily putting vaccines in him but the way things will be at his bith im not sure i'll be in a position to argue or say!! :confused:

aww lotts, we'll all be thinking of him and hoping everything will be fine. :)

We can only do what's best, most of the time we don't have an option.

I did see something on tv recently, don't most baby's have a jab is it for tetanus right after they are born? like withing 24hrs?

may as well give them the rest! lol i want to go back to being a sheep where everything is good for us that they say is good for us, life is so much easier than though isn't it. Anyway the docs do think they are doing the right thing...

ah it's so darn complicated.

as long as baby lotts is happy and safe that's the main thing. :)

As i said lotts, i didn't know your baby has complications, just enjoy the pregnancy, bonding with your little miracle inside you, and everything will be fine, whatever comes after comes after and this is true for everyone, be happy and be well :)

xx

[free_soul]

In that case, it's natural to jack up heroin or cocaine.

It proably is more natural supstances in smack and coke than in most vacines

[cleopatraxxx]

BBC=Best Bullshit Channel

[weirdwolf71]

My son has autism and I went to the 'Treat Autism' conference last week in Bournemouth to get more info.

Very interesting as I met up with one of the speakers, Dr Boyd Haley, and he's had battles with the authorities over mercury in vaccines and dental amalgams for years.

I asked him about the MMR and whether they really had taken out the thimerosal (50% ethyl-mercury) in 1999 as they said....he said they had NOT taken it out. Apparently in the US the health authorities are given a choice of vaccine - some with and some without thimerosal, and they tend to go for the cheaper version - you guessed it - the one with mercury in. He said it was the same deal over here too.

Might be an idea if you're offered the MMR or any other vaccine, to say 'I'll only take it if I'm happy with the ingredients' and ask to see the insert.

Dr Boyd also said the aluminium in there makes the mercury much more toxic.

It was a very interesting day....Dr Andrew Wakefield gave a talk as well, who is now working in the US as he was hounded out by the PTB.

[eric_blair]

The trouble is - i had high hopes for my boy- as soon as he plopped out he was to have NO injections what-so-ever in his tiny innocent pure body but he has complications and as soon as he's born is going to require ICU and possibly operations thus meaning he'll have every shit pumped into him imaginable... i'll be recovering from c-sction and im worried my OH will just 'ok' everything and also i dont want to jeapordise his life- he needs some of the stuff he'll be getting but i just want a step by step account of EVERYTHING they put in his body without it looking as though im compromising his care or life...these people are afterall only trying to ensure he survives. What i dont want is them sneakily putting vaccines in him but the way things will be at his bith im not sure i'll be in a position to argue or say!! :confused:

Hi Lottie
From my experience of birth you need to make a birth plan make them aware of it and make them aware you intend to stick to it, and dont be afraid to shout and cause trouble if you need to, they'll soon listen, I found if your too trusting and go with the flow some will do whats best for them not for you

there were some great genuine midwives and some absolute harpies

all worth it in the end though

Everyone else
Thanks guys for kind words and encouragement, dont worry I wont be bullied into anything, Im a right stupborn git when I want to be ;)
LOL
:D:D:D:D

[hey_jude]

eric blair ...this may be useful - when my letters weren't answered I did look into vaccines by private hospital and came up with this... I know it's concerning BCG but they will do other vaccines and maybe cheaper than you were quoted!

Breakspear Hospital in Hertfordshire offers mercury-free BCG to babies, children and adults to protect against TB for £50*. A tuberculin skin test is carried out to determine past or present TB infection and is performed prior to BCG vaccinations on children over 1 year and adults. This test is called the Mantoux test, which is read in 48-72 hours.

Maybe you could get a similar private hospital near to you and discuss with them what your options are?

peace :)

[fuzzylogic]

I reckon the pharmacutical companies made everyone fear the old vaccines so you all pay for the more expensive new ones.

[eric_blair]

eric blair ...this may be useful - when my letters weren't answered I did look into vaccines by private hospital and came up with this... I know it's concerning BCG but they will do other vaccines and maybe cheaper than you were quoted!



Maybe you could get a similar private hospital near to you and discuss with them what your options are?

peace :)

Thanks HJ, I'll look into it
:):)

[hey_jude]

no problem ...best of luck to you and yours!

[adzboarder]

Eric, please follow these steps.

1. Place card and associated documents in the bin.
2. Forget about it.

I'm in the same boat, don't worry about it and if your child cant go to the nearest school or nursery to you, take it to the press, the Sun for example love this kind of shit.

It's disgusting how parents are treated like this, the choice as to whats best for OUR children is OURS and they can go fuck themselves. It's infuriating, but be strong, you can get through this and make the best choices for your children, don't bow to their incessant bullshit.

Any drug that is protected by statute, in that if you give your child the MMR for example and he/she gets Autism, you cant sue the vaccine makers. This is UNBELIEVABLE and enough to make me refuse to vaccinate the children if there is no liability for these poisons should something go wrong - fuck that risk, who wants to completely destroy their own child chemically?

Also, the less "formal education" the kids get, the better.

[bicycle]

Its ok folks, only a dumbed down population would fall for this garbage....
































































Ohhhhhhhhhhh shit!

[belial]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7947863.stm


Sorry if this has been posted already ..but OH my days...no mention of the main ingredient mercury, and no mention of the linked deaths and autism statistics.

Why would I expect anything less from the BBC?

Since when did anybody believe what the shitty BBC said anyway? ;)

[macleodmunro]

This part of the artical stood out for me.

"Look around any room crowded with young and middle-aged aduts - next time you go to see a film for example - and imagine scores of empty seats that would be there if all those whose lives had been saved by vaccines were to vanish.

Imagine all you're family and friends and then, arbitrarily, remove or cripple one in 20.

It's hard to do it and rather scary."



And of course we're meant to take his word for it that this would be the case.

Bloody scare-mounger!

[unusual_suspect]

This part of the artical stood out for me.

"Look around any room crowded with young and middle-aged aduts - next time you go to see a film for example - and imagine scores of empty seats that would be there if all those whose lives had been saved by vaccines were to vanish.

Imagine all you're family and friends and then, arbitrarily, remove or cripple one in 20.

It's hard to do it and rather scary."



And of course we're meant to take his word for it that this would be the case.

Bloody scare-mounger!


I know, its blatantly a load of chaff and is a complete insult to ones intelligence.

[cleopatraxxx]

Eric, please follow these steps.

1. Place card and associated documents in the bin.
2. Forget about it.

I'm in the same boat, don't worry about it and if your child cant go to the nearest school or nursery to you, take it to the press, the Sun for example love this kind of shit.

It's disgusting how parents are treated like this, the choice as to whats best for OUR children is OURS and they can go fuck themselves. It's infuriating, but be strong, you can get through this and make the best choices for your children, don't bow to their incessant bullshit.

Any drug that is protected by statute, in that if you give your child the MMR for example and he/she gets Autism, you cant sue the vaccine makers. This is UNBELIEVABLE and enough to make me refuse to vaccinate the children if there is no liability for these poisons should something go wrong - fuck that risk, who wants to completely destroy their own child chemically?

Also, the less "formal education" the kids get, the better.

i totally agree with you!
Cleo

[ludovico tec]

What utter tosh that article is!
How can you compare having chemicals injected into your body to walking on a mountain or eating an apple? The chemicals are clearly directly very harmful!

"I do not recall any negative media coverage of vaccinations over the past few years." -
Nicholas, Hertfordshire, UK

Well you wouldn't hear about it, would you?

[poohkits]

For a complete list of what is in the vaccines they pump into you and your kids take a look a the link below. It ranges from mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, cells from pigs, goats, sheep and cattle and monkeys.

Once you see this any doubt about their intentions will be vaporised

see here... (http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html)

[jesuitsdidit]

BBC Claims Vaccines are natural!!

well, it would wodnt it??

[realy]

:eek::D:D:D:D

[tyler]

Always google these so called experts.

The guy who wrote the article, Professor Adam Finn is all over the internet promoting vaccines for everything including the controversial vaccine for girls to prevent cervical cancer. He also wants all teenagers to get booster shots of all the vaccines they were injected with as toddlers.
He also wants the three in one vaccine increased to SIX in one and to be given at birth not three moths later as is the usual practise.
One of his heroes is Microsofts Richard Gates!!!.... Say no more!

Read the opposition line. Dr. Richard Halverston author of "The Truth about Vaccines"

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=Dr+Richard+halvorsen&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f

[cleopatraxxx]

For a complete list of what is in the vaccines they pump into you and your kids take a look a the link below. It ranges from mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, cells from pigs, goats, sheep and cattle and monkeys.

Once you see this any doubt about their intentions will be vaporised

see here... (http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html)

thank you for the link.
i from there decided to google a bit about aluminium

this is what i found:
Why aluminum phosphate is less toxic than aluminum hydroxide (http://http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/11/3/340)
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Hepatitis B Vaccine: Good for 'Newborn' Prostitutes and Drug Users, but Who Else?
Friday, July 11, 2008 by: Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D., citizen journalist (http://www.naturalnews.com/023610.html)
http://www.naturalnews.com/023610.html
"What is the Hep B Vaccine?

In November of 1991, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC recommended the universal vaccination of Hep B to every newborn in the U.S. There are currently two types of genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccines licensed for use in the U.S.: Merck's Recombivax HB® (each 0.5 mL dose contains 5 mcg of hepatitis B surface antigen with formaldehyde, and .5mg of aluminum (potassium aluminum sulfate)[1] and GlaxoSmithKline's Engerix-B® (each 0.5 mL dose contains 10 mcg of hepatitis B surface antigen adsorbed on 0.25 mg aluminum as aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, disodium phosphate dihydrate, and sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate [2].

When is the Hep B Vaccine Given?

The Hep B vaccine is the first vaccine given to newborns and is injected within 12 hours of birth. The CDC then recommends a second injection at one to two months of age and a third vaccination between six and 18 months (regardless of manufacturer).

Why is the Hep B Vaccine Given?

This vaccine is given because of fear, lack of knowledge and corporate greed from the vaccine manufacturers. Merck generates over $1 billion worth of revenue from this vaccine alone. Most hospitals allow for screening of Hep B in mothers prior to birth, but many do not do this. Even if the mother tests positive for Hep B, there is only a 5% probability that the virus will be passed from mother to child. We are ostensibly injecting helpless newborns (nearly 1 million per year in the U.S.) with this vaccine with the false belief that every mother already has Hep B and if they don't, we will be protecting the future generation of promiscuous teens and drug users. The CDC and FDA know that drug users and prostitutes will not get the vaccine themselves and therefore it is better to vaccinate these potential drug users and hookers when they are born. The CDC and Merck have collaborated to misinterpret and skew the number of cases of Hepatitis B in the U.S. They say each year up to 320,000 new cases occur, yet the CDC documents report that only 10,000 new cases occur. Even of these 10,000 cases, 95 percent (or 9,500) will recover on their own and forever have natural immunity. This type of misinformation and fear tactics are nothing new to Big Pharma, for it is fear that allows one to control the masses and as a corollary, numerous infants and families have forever been harmed.

Adverse Reactions to Hep B?

Accurate data on adverse reactions to the Hep B vaccine are very difficult to come by due to scarcity or lack of reporting by many physicians as well as blocked reporting data from the CDC. The most recent and complete data from the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) and government agencies (CDC, FDA) are from July, 1990 to October 1999 and include 24,775 adverse reactions. These reactions include 439 deaths and 9,673 emergency room visits. These reactions have included, arthritis [3, 4]; skin disorders [5]; compromised immunity and autoimmune disease [6]; neurological damage; vision loss and rare eye disorders such as optic neuritis [7] and epitheliopathy [8]; blood disorders [9]; diabetes [10]; damage to liver and kidneys [11]; severe vomiting, diarrhoea and death [12].

Because the reporting of adverse events to VAERS is completely voluntary, up to 96 to 99 percent of these reactions are never reported [13]. Realistically, the number of adverse events following Hep B vaccination from 1990 to 1999 would be somewhere around 2.5 million (24,775 multiplied by 99). In addition to the above adverse reactions, additional severe reactions have been reported from Merck and GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals which include: edema of the heart, chest discomfort, Guillain-Barre syndrome, fever, hearing damage, bronchial spasms, hair loss, encephalitis, multiple sclerosis, seizures, herpes zoster, Bells palsy, rash, visual impairments and anaphylaxis [1, 2]. In October of 1998, France became the first country to effectively ban the Hep B vaccine given to children due to an increase in child arthritis, multiple sclerosis symptoms and other serious adverse reactions.

From the above evidence we can conclude that if you wish to groom your children to become future drug users who share needles or prostitutes (or quite possibly both) then the risks of contracting Hep B may outweigh the risks of receiving one of the many adverse reactions. But, if you are a responsible parent and believe that your child is extremely unlikely to come in contact with Hep B through such risky behavior (especially as a newborn or infant), then clearly this vaccine is unwarranted. Furthermore, it is safe to say that this vaccine should be removed from the American Academy of Pediatrics infant vaccination schedule to prevent further damage and death to our children. Interestingly enough, up to 87% of pediatricians believe that the Hep B vaccine is totally unnecessary for newborns [14]. It seems that the Hep B vaccine may be warranted in only the most exceptional of circumstances much later on in life, but it has no place being anywhere near our 12 hour old children with a very immature and underdeveloped immune system."
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[belial]

The BBC... the proudly-sponsored government propaganda machine.

Only a fool would believe the 'NEWS' they pump out.

[belial]

thank you for the link.
i from there decided to google a bit about aluminium

this is what i found:
Why aluminum phosphate is less toxic than aluminum hydroxide (http://http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/11/3/340)
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Hepatitis B Vaccine: Good for 'Newborn' Prostitutes and Drug Users, but Who Else?
Friday, July 11, 2008 by: Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D., citizen journalist (http://www.naturalnews.com/023610.html)
http://www.naturalnews.com/023610.html
"What is the Hep B Vaccine?

In November of 1991, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC recommended the universal vaccination of Hep B to every newborn in the U.S. There are currently two types of genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccines licensed for use in the U.S.: Merck's Recombivax HB® (each 0.5 mL dose contains 5 mcg of hepatitis B surface antigen with formaldehyde, and .5mg of aluminum (potassium aluminum sulfate)[1] and GlaxoSmithKline's Engerix-B® (each 0.5 mL dose contains 10 mcg of hepatitis B surface antigen adsorbed on 0.25 mg aluminum as aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, disodium phosphate dihydrate, and sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate [2].

When is the Hep B Vaccine Given?

The Hep B vaccine is the first vaccine given to newborns and is injected within 12 hours of birth. The CDC then recommends a second injection at one to two months of age and a third vaccination between six and 18 months (regardless of manufacturer).

Why is the Hep B Vaccine Given?

This vaccine is given because of fear, lack of knowledge and corporate greed from the vaccine manufacturers. Merck generates over $1 billion worth of revenue from this vaccine alone. Most hospitals allow for screening of Hep B in mothers prior to birth, but many do not do this. Even if the mother tests positive for Hep B, there is only a 5% probability that the virus will be passed from mother to child. We are ostensibly injecting helpless newborns (nearly 1 million per year in the U.S.) with this vaccine with the false belief that every mother already has Hep B and if they don't, we will be protecting the future generation of promiscuous teens and drug users. The CDC and FDA know that drug users and prostitutes will not get the vaccine themselves and therefore it is better to vaccinate these potential drug users and hookers when they are born. The CDC and Merck have collaborated to misinterpret and skew the number of cases of Hepatitis B in the U.S. They say each year up to 320,000 new cases occur, yet the CDC documents report that only 10,000 new cases occur. Even of these 10,000 cases, 95 percent (or 9,500) will recover on their own and forever have natural immunity. This type of misinformation and fear tactics are nothing new to Big Pharma, for it is fear that allows one to control the masses and as a corollary, numerous infants and families have forever been harmed.

Adverse Reactions to Hep B?

Accurate data on adverse reactions to the Hep B vaccine are very difficult to come by due to scarcity or lack of reporting by many physicians as well as blocked reporting data from the CDC. The most recent and complete data from the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) and government agencies (CDC, FDA) are from July, 1990 to October 1999 and include 24,775 adverse reactions. These reactions include 439 deaths and 9,673 emergency room visits. These reactions have included, arthritis [3, 4]; skin disorders [5]; compromised immunity and autoimmune disease [6]; neurological damage; vision loss and rare eye disorders such as optic neuritis [7] and epitheliopathy [8]; blood disorders [9]; diabetes [10]; damage to liver and kidneys [11]; severe vomiting, diarrhoea and death [12].

Because the reporting of adverse events to VAERS is completely voluntary, up to 96 to 99 percent of these reactions are never reported [13]. Realistically, the number of adverse events following Hep B vaccination from 1990 to 1999 would be somewhere around 2.5 million (24,775 multiplied by 99). In addition to the above adverse reactions, additional severe reactions have been reported from Merck and GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals which include: edema of the heart, chest discomfort, Guillain-Barre syndrome, fever, hearing damage, bronchial spasms, hair loss, encephalitis, multiple sclerosis, seizures, herpes zoster, Bells palsy, rash, visual impairments and anaphylaxis [1, 2]. In October of 1998, France became the first country to effectively ban the Hep B vaccine given to children due to an increase in child arthritis, multiple sclerosis symptoms and other serious adverse reactions.

From the above evidence we can conclude that if you wish to groom your children to become future drug users who share needles or prostitutes (or quite possibly both) then the risks of contracting Hep B may outweigh the risks of receiving one of the many adverse reactions. But, if you are a responsible parent and believe that your child is extremely unlikely to come in contact with Hep B through such risky behavior (especially as a newborn or infant), then clearly this vaccine is unwarranted. Furthermore, it is safe to say that this vaccine should be removed from the American Academy of Pediatrics infant vaccination schedule to prevent further damage and death to our children. Interestingly enough, up to 87% of pediatricians believe that the Hep B vaccine is totally unnecessary for newborns [14]. It seems that the Hep B vaccine may be warranted in only the most exceptional of circumstances much later on in life, but it has no place being anywhere near our 12 hour old children with a very immature and underdeveloped immune system."
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Email the BBC with what you have said.

You are right with the evidence you have quoted.

The BBC have lost the plot... and need waking up to the truth.

;)

[elysiumfire]

That which is 'natural' is that which has not been manufactured or tampered with by man, for either his benefit or convenience.

Number 5 on the obsfucator's list would be a natural 'act' if the statement only said...'eating an apple'. Only then would anything on the list be considered 'natural' in either itself or as a act.

[dude111]

yourd be better of with heroin or cocaine as you know what to expect and the problems your body and mind will have to cope with.Yes this is true!!

For a complete list of what is in the vaccines they pump into you and your kids take a look a the link below. It ranges from mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, cells from pigs, goats, sheep and cattle and monkeys.

Once you see this any doubt about their intentions will be vaporised

http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.htmlVERY GOOD REFERENCE MATERIAL! (Especially for people who havent been woken up) THANK YOU!!

[motleyhoo]

Email the BBC with what you have said.

You are right with the evidence you have quoted.

The BBC have lost the plot... and need waking up to the truth.

;)

The BBC like all the other major news outlets are owned by people who have large investments in the drug companies. No amount of email is gonna make a difference.

.

[cleopatraxxx]

and of course,
with the pandemic they are creating with their false swine flu,
it comes handy for them to make the calim that vaccines are NATURAL :mad:

...

[bobbydiva]

I'm 18 and should have had some dodgy triple jab last year, I can't even remember what for. They often send letters.

Funny thing is, one time they sent a letter about a jab I DID have when I was a baby. Imagine if I had gone and got this jab I'd already had. I don't think they care, any old jab will do.

[realy]

The BBC like all the other major news outlets are owned by people who have large investments in the drug companies. No amount of email is gonna make a difference.

.

yeah they laugh at your emails and probably piss on there screens when they see em...

[free_soul]

In that case, it's natural to jack up heroin or cocaine.

Its probably more natural than vacines lol. At least heroin is from a poppy and coke is from the co coa plant so yea it it lol