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jesalyn
19-03-2009, 12:49 PM
It seems I'm always sick. I have one infection or another. This week it is an ear infection, sinus infection, both got so bad it is now on my skin. Last month it was the flu, the month before it was sinuses, and on and on... Anyone have any advice for me? I'm sick of being sick.:(

element
19-03-2009, 12:54 PM
It seems I'm always sick. I have one infection or another. This week it is an ear infection, sinus infection, both got so bad it is now on my skin. Last month it was the flu, the month before it was sinuses, and on and on... Anyone have any advice for me? I'm sick of being sick.:(
First you have to tell what your daily activities are. What do you do, what do you drink, eat, exercise etc.
That would help.

;)

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 01:02 PM
It seems I'm always sick. I have one infection or another. This week it is an ear infection, sinus infection, both got so bad it is now on my skin. Last month it was the flu, the month before it was sinuses, and on and on... Anyone have any advice for me? I'm sick of being sick.:(
Look in to the raw food diet.

Clearly your body is in an acidic and toxic condition, and your immune system has been compromised. I recommend you go on a green juice fast, which will permit your body to sort itself out whilst alkalinising it and remineralising it.

The fundamental cause of just about all disease is constipation. When the body is in an acidic state its response is to produce mucus in an attempt to neutralise the acid. This mucus causes blockages, which lead to disease. It also provides an excellent breeding ground for dangerous microbes – viruses and the like. The western diet is not one conducive to good health, neither is it compatible with our physiological design. Get rid of the poisons and artificial culture-foods such as meat, dairy, wheat, sugar, coffee, potatoes, and etcetera, and replace them with proper foods such as green leafy vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. You should utilise the microalgae, too, such as spirulina and chlorella. Barley grass powder is very detoxifying, so I also recommend getting hold of some.

cinbad
19-03-2009, 02:23 PM
It seems I'm always sick. I have one infection or another. This week it is an ear infection, sinus infection, both got so bad it is now on my skin. Last month it was the flu, the month before it was sinuses, and on and on... Anyone have any advice for me? I'm sick of being sick.:(

Colloidal silver works every time. Also, vitamin D3 in winter is good for warding off colds and flu.

jesalyn
19-03-2009, 03:45 PM
I had heart surgery a year and a half ago, I am 34. I have had 2 children and 3 miscarriages (in the last 5 years). I am overweight (about 30lbs). I started working out about 6 weeks ago (and watching my diet), I've lost 17lbs so far. I workout almost everyday (with a trainers' help). I don't smoke or drink. My oldest son is in school, the youngest is at home with me. I take muli-vitamins and acidophilus. My doctor has checked my thyroid, its fine. I do not have HIV or AIDS (been tested).

I understand that being overweight doesn't help. I have been getting "sick" my whole life, even when I was skinny. If someone coughs next door, I've got their cold.

The raw diet doesn't sound very appetizing, but I'll look into it.

unimatrix0
19-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Yes, it sounds exactly what I've been going through. It's been going on for about 7 years. I'm pretty sure it's a fungal infection that I got from having allergies.

It's difficult cycle to break, because you try to exercise too much to get healthier, you actually feel worse because you're body is constantly using energy to fight your infection. You have to fight the infection first and then start exercising slowly as your energy comes back.

I got tired of doctors and conventional methods just this past month when I got another sinus infection. I started looking at some more radical cures and found one that works for me! I was actually going to start a thread about it. I wanted to try colloidal silver, but I'm still nursing so I was a bit apprehensive about using it now.

What has been working for me is hydrogen peroxide. Here's is a link to how to make the solution and how to flood your sinuses.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765

It's completely insane what came out of my sinuses!

I know I still have a lot of healing to do, but it's so much easier when you can breath and you have a bit more energy. One important part of healing is diet change. I find it challenging to stop eating sugar, but I feel so much better when I do.

Good luck with your healing! I understand how frustrating it can be.

boots
19-03-2009, 06:22 PM
I had heart surgery a year and a half ago, I am 34. I have had 2 children and 3 miscarriages (in the last 5 years). I am overweight (about 30lbs). I started working out about 6 weeks ago (and watching my diet), I've lost 17lbs so far. I workout almost everyday (with a trainers' help). I don't smoke or drink. My oldest son is in school, the youngest is at home with me. I take muli-vitamins and acidophilus. My doctor has checked my thyroid, its fine. I do not have HIV or AIDS (been tested).

I understand that being overweight doesn't help. I have been getting "sick" my whole life, even when I was skinny. If someone coughs next door, I've got their cold.

The raw diet doesn't sound very appetizing, but I'll look into it.


I'm sorry to hear that you have had 3 miscarriages, very hard for a women to take.

Some times it can be psychosomatic?

Colloidal silver is very good and so is MMS too. Do you eat a lot of processed food? I see that you take a multi vitamin supplement, if it's in pill or tablet form then it wont be as effective as they will pass through the system before they really get a chance to dissolve.

Fresh Vitamin C is the best way to go, imo.

themime
19-03-2009, 06:28 PM
I workout almost everyday (with a trainers' help). I don't smoke or drink.

I understand that being overweight doesn't help. I have been getting "sick" my whole life, even when I was skinny. If someone coughs next door, I've got their cold.


What sort of training routine are you doing? i.e. Is there a chance that what with your normal day to day life and the workouts you may be over training and therefore running down your immune system even more?

Also has your trainer recommended any supplements?

metacomet
19-03-2009, 06:37 PM
Look in to the raw food diet.

Clearly your body is in an acidic and toxic condition, and your immune system has been compromised.

This person is not a doctor and should not be giving you a diagnosis.

It's obvious that your immune system is not in peak condition : if it were in peak condition you wouldn't be getting infections one after another.

boots
19-03-2009, 06:59 PM
This person is not a doctor and should not be giving you a diagnosis.

It's obvious that your immune system is not in peak condition : if it were in peak condition you wouldn't be getting infections one after another.


Exactly.

And for the first point.

Exactly.

metacomet
19-03-2009, 07:05 PM
Do you spend all your time indoors?

This is 'old wives medicine' but - spending more time outdoors, especially in cold weather, will strengthen your immune system over time. Most people spend almost no time outside so their immune system is basically non-existent. This is also a common cause of sinus congestion and just feeling shitty in general.

Is there good circulation of air in your home?

If you open a window in one room, leave the door to the room cracked open, and then open your front or backdoor, you might feel an intense change in air pressure or even hear it. This is an easy test. Most of us live with bad circulation and are breathing dust and dead skin cells.

brainfreeze
19-03-2009, 07:12 PM
Do you spend all your time indoors?

This is 'old wives medicine' but - spending more time outdoors, especially in cold weather, will strengthen your immune system over time. Most people spend almost no time outside so their immune system is basically non-existent. This is also a common cause of sinus congestion and just feeling shitty in general.

Is there good circulation of air in your home?

If you open a window in one room, leave the door to the room cracked open, and then open your front or backdoor, you might feel an intense change in air pressure or even hear it. This is an easy test. Most of us live with bad circulation and are breathing dust and dead skin cells.

Just checked out your myspace. Cool tunes, AND you're a little bit yummy, aren't you?!

To stay on topic, nice advise :)

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 07:46 PM
I had heart surgery a year and a half ago, I am 34. I have had 2 children and 3 miscarriages (in the last 5 years). I am overweight (about 30lbs). I started working out about 6 weeks ago (and watching my diet), I've lost 17lbs so far. I workout almost everyday (with a trainers' help). I don't smoke or drink. My oldest son is in school, the youngest is at home with me. I take muli-vitamins and acidophilus. My doctor has checked my thyroid, its fine. I do not have HIV or AIDS (been tested).

I understand that being overweight doesn't help. I have been getting "sick" my whole life, even when I was skinny. If someone coughs next door, I've got their cold.

The raw diet doesn't sound very appetizing, but I'll look into it.

You are definitely the sort of person who would see amazing, life-restoring results on the raw food diet.

The raw diet is the most innovative and tasteful diet their is. Furthermore, it is our natural diet, and the diet which restores and ensures good health.

Take a look at this thread for example recipes:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55927

And this thread for a few links on it:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55237

Trust me, after a few weeks on the raw diet your health will improve dramatically and you will never even want to look back.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 07:54 PM
This person is not a doctor and should not be giving you a diagnosis.

It's obvious that your immune system is not in peak condition : if it were in peak condition you wouldn't be getting infections one after another.

Quoth the Devil's bought-&-paid for coadjutor.

If I was a fucking doctor I would be recommending poisonous drugs and shit like that. What I recommend is the chance for her body to regain control and heal itself, as it is built to do and as it will do as soon as it is given the chance.

Food causes disease and food heals. "Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food."

If you, metacomet, knew anything at all about health then you would be agreeing with what I posted, instead of tainting this thread with hostile shit. Shame on you. The thread starter is requesting help, not shit from you which is intended only to detract from the good information.

You post again, detractor, when you have cured cancer. Because the only case of cancer I have advised on in actual life resulted in a 100 % cure, meaning all tumours disappeared.

How many of your fucking doctors can say that?

metacomet
19-03-2009, 08:06 PM
If I was a fucking doctor I would be recommending poisonous drugs and shit like that.

Yes, but you're not a doctor. You're a voluntary salesman for the raw-food diet. You sound like a walking infomercial. You waltz into every thread telling people they are ignorant and evil for advocating meat -eating, then you proceed to cram your diagnosis and raw-food diet down the throats of the OP's.

I'm not going to bother to respond to the rest of your post. Emotional responses aren't worth replying to.


If you, metacomet, knew anything at all about health then you would be agreeing with what I posted, instead of tainting this thread with hostile shit. Shame on you.

:rolleyes: K. You are not a doctor and you should not be giving diagnosis and offering raw-food diet as a cure-all. This is not a hostile statement. Carry on with the flailing of the arms etc.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 08:27 PM
Yes, but you're not a doctor. You're a voluntary salesman for the raw-food diet. You sound like a walking infomercial. You waltz into every thread telling people they are ignorant and evil for advocating meat -eating, then you proceed to cram your diagnosis and raw-food diet down the throats of the OP's.

I'm not going to bother to respond to the rest of your post. Emotional responses aren't worth replying to.



:rolleyes: K. You are not a doctor and you should not be giving diagnosis and offering raw-food diet as a cure-all. This is not a hostile statement. Carry on with the flailing of the arms etc.

I am going to try to avoid this shit again, with you and your ilk. "One soon becomes a fool for arguing with fools."

boots
19-03-2009, 08:36 PM
Do you spend all your time indoors?

This is 'old wives medicine' but - spending more time outdoors, especially in cold weather, will strengthen your immune system over time. Most people spend almost no time outside so their immune system is basically non-existent. This is also a common cause of sinus congestion and just feeling shitty in general.

Is there good circulation of air in your home?

If you open a window in one room, leave the door to the room cracked open, and then open your front or backdoor, you might feel an intense change in air pressure or even hear it. This is an easy test. Most of us live with bad circulation and are breathing dust and dead skin cells.

Old wives tales, have a lot of truth to them;)

There is nothing like fresh air. Our houses are full of chemicals from the glues and other shit, that has gone into producing them. This can not surely be of benefit.



As the OP said, she doen't like the raw food diet. That's HER choice.


.

tusme
19-03-2009, 08:44 PM
It seems I'm always sick. I have one infection or another. This week it is an ear infection, sinus infection, both got so bad it is now on my skin. Last month it was the flu, the month before it was sinuses, and on and on... Anyone have any advice for me? I'm sick of being sick.:(
Hi Jesalyn,

"Sickness", imho, is a negative energy...

My advice...your "sickness" requires a physical and spiritual response...

Good Luck!! ;)

boots
19-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Hi Jesalyn,

"Sickness", imho, is a negative energy...

My advice...your "sickness" requires a physical and spiritual response...

Good Luck!! ;)

Good point.

It's a combination of the two.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 08:51 PM
As the OP said, she doen't like the raw food diet. That's HER choice.


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Sorry, boots, but yet again you are posting shit. She never said anything of the sort. She merely wrote that is sounds unappealing, which is natural for anyone raised on cooked foods.

boots
19-03-2009, 08:54 PM
Sorry, boots, but yet again you are posting shit. She never said anything of the sort. She merely wrote that is sounds unappealing, which is natural for anyone raised on cooked foods.

Posting shit:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Unappealing=does not like..

Thats HER choice.. not for you to ram crap down her throat.

.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 08:54 PM
My advice...your "sickness" requires a physical and spiritual response...

Both encompassed in the raw diet:

Physical and Spiritual Enlightenment Through Eating:

"When you eat only raw food," states Victoria Boutenko, "you become spiritual because you have rid your body of the toxins that cloud your mind and thinking and rob you of your health and vitality. You then learn to live in happiness and pleasure without the addiction to cooked food. When we learn to be happy with what we have, here and now, that is spiritual awakening."

http://www.all-creatures.org/cb/a-physpirenlight.html

hunter77
19-03-2009, 08:55 PM
Sorry, boots, but yet again you are posting shit. She never said anything of the sort. She merely wrote that is sounds unappealing, which is natural for anyone raised on cooked foods.

so unappealing is a tick in the yes collum then for the "raw food diet"????

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Posting shit:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Unappealing=does not like..

Thats HER choice.. not for you to ram crap down her throat.

.


SOUNDS unappealing. Learn to read, and stop filtering.

It is funny you talking about ramming crap down peoples throats. Not just because that is what you seem to constantly do, but mainly because the 'foods' you recommend are actually contaminated with actual crap! Meat always contains some fecal matter, because as the slaughter men hack-up the corpses, they have not yet been able to prevent shit from the colon spilling out over the rest of the animal's flesh. All milk contains blood and pus. Want some links?

boots
19-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Spiritual enlightenment through eating.

Eat a well balanced diet that consist of meat, veggies and love.

Not deluded hate from a vegan fascist

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 08:58 PM
so unappealing is a tick in the yes collum then for the "raw food diet"????

Oh, hello there. I was waiting for you to turn up and join in the fun with your buddies.

hunter77
19-03-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh, hello there. I was waiting for you to turn up and join in the fun with your buddies.

dont know what you mean, are you implying somthing? would you like to share it with the rest of the cla:confused:ss

boots
19-03-2009, 09:02 PM
SOUNDS unappealing. Learn to read, and stop filtering.

It is funny you talking about ramming crap down peoples throats. Not just because that is what you seem to constantly do, but mainly because the 'foods' you recommend are actually contaminated with actual crap! Meat always contains some fecal matter, because as the slaughter men hack-up the corpses, they have not yet been able to prevent shit from the colon spilling out over the rest of the animal's flesh. All milk contains blood and pus. Want some links?


UNAPPEALING = I wouldn't put that shit in my mouth because it's disgusting.

So slaughter houses dont have any government health regulation then :rolleyes: Your a fool to think that.

hunter77
19-03-2009, 09:05 PM
SOUNDS unappealing. Learn to read, and stop filtering.

It is funny you talking about ramming crap down peoples throats. Not just because that is what you seem to constantly do, but mainly because the 'foods' you recommend are actually contaminated with actual crap! Meat always contains some fecal matter, because as the slaughter men hack-up the corpses, they have not yet been able to prevent shit from the colon spilling out over the rest of the animal's flesh. All milk contains blood and pus. Want some links?

not if you slaugter it yourself, not everyone eats farmed meat:mad: you can quite easily skin and butcher an animal , with no sign of shit. anyway you were advocating growing spinich using human faeces on another thread which i have no problem with accept it is double standards:(

boots
19-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Love is the path to spiritual enlightenment. Something you seriously lack.

I love animal's. Especially with a red wine sauce:) Offal is pretty good too. Has a lot of vitamins and minerals excellent stuff.

boots
19-03-2009, 09:08 PM
not if you slaugter it yourself, not everyone eats farmed meat:mad: you can quite easily skin and butcher an animal , with no sign of shit. anyway you were advocating growing spinich using human faeces on another thread which i have no problem with accept it is double standards:(

Good point.

Natural is the best way to go.

hunter77
19-03-2009, 09:10 PM
Good point.

Natural is the best way to go.

off to work now son :D

tusme
19-03-2009, 09:25 PM
Both encompassed in the raw diet:

Physical and Spiritual Enlightenment Through Eating:

"When you eat only raw food," states Victoria Boutenko, "you become spiritual because you have rid your body of the toxins that cloud your mind and thinking and rob you of your health and vitality. You then learn to live in happiness and pleasure without the addiction to cooked food. When we learn to be happy with what we have, here and now, that is spiritual awakening."

http://www.all-creatures.org/cb/a-physpirenlight.html
Well, considering the OP's situation, the "Physical & Spiritual response" I was referring to, requires more than just a "raw diet"... :)

jesalyn
19-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Wow. I didn't know I started a heated arguement :eek:.

I was raised eating no meat, pork, eggs, milk, white flour, sugar, gluten, chocolate, sulfites, nitrates, artificial anything, exc, exc. My mom is a "health" food chef, and macrobiotic chef. I know the raw foods sounds un-appealing because I know what it entails :D

I do agree on the spiritual healing, I need lots of that with the miscarriages and near-death with the heart surgery (I had a heart birth defect I never knew about).

I guess I don't know where to start with either!

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 09:32 PM
Well, considering the OP's situation, the "Physical & Spiritual response" I was referring to, requires more than just a "raw diet"... :)

Sure, but bad diet prevents most from such enlightenment. The raw diet makes the road clear for them.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Wow. I didn't know I started a heated arguement :eek:.

I was raised eating no meat, pork, eggs, milk, white flour, sugar, gluten, chocolate, sulfites, nitrates, artificial anything, exc, exc. My mom is a "health" food chef, and macrobiotic chef. I know the raw foods sounds un-appealing because I know what it entails :D

I do agree on the spiritual healing, I need lots of that with the miscarriages and near-death with the heart surgery (I had a heart birth defect I never knew about).

I guess I don't know where to start with either!

Clearly, and with respect, you do not know what the raw diet entails. I expect you have an addiction with cooked foods, which are poison to the body:

"When we heat food above the human body temperature of 38 degrees, it changes. This heated food effects our health much differently than natural, unchanged foods.

Prior to 1930, It was believed that whenever we ate, there was an immune system response as if we were poisoned. An immediate rise in white blood cells, by about 300%. White blood cells are our body's soldiers, they are produced to fight off threats, like poison, trauma or disease. This reaction to eating was called Digestive Leukocytosis and thought to be normal.

In 1930, Dr Paul Kouchakoff conducted research to compare the effects of cooked food versus raw food. He discovered that Digestive Leukocytosis occurred only when cooked or processed food was eaten. He found that there is no immune system response when we eat our food in it's natural, unheated, unprocessed state.

Because of Digestive Leukocytosis, eating cooked food keeps our immune system in a constant state of emergency. Even what we call allergies are just our over burdened immune system literally freaking out when a new irritant is encountered.

Another immune system response to cooked food is mucus. When cooked food is eaten, our bodies try to protect us from this invasion by creating mucus. This mucus makes a wall between the food and our bodies. As a raw foodist now, if I eat any cooked food the first thing I notice is within' about 7 minutes my nose will start to run. Then within' an hour I feel just a bit knocked off my raw high. (that I sometimes can forget that I am on) Isn't it nice to know that you can get so used to feeling perfect that you take it for granted? You can!"

http://purelyraw.com/cooking.htm

What exactly is your diet?

tusme
19-03-2009, 09:50 PM
Wow. I didn't know I started a heated arguement :eek:.

I was raised eating no meat, pork, eggs, milk, white flour, sugar, gluten, chocolate, sulfites, nitrates, artificial anything, exc, exc. My mom is a "health" food chef, and macrobiotic chef. I know the raw foods sounds un-appealing because I know what it entails :D

I do agree on the spiritual healing, I need lots of that with the miscarriages and near-death with the heart surgery (I had a heart birth defect I never knew about).

I guess I don't know where to start with either!
"heated argument"...me!? :D

You're on the right path, Jesalyn, identifying the (physical) Truth regarding all the possible causes of your situation...don't get me wrong, your current living conditions might well be a contributing factor to this "negative energy"... :confused:

As for your "spiritual healing", may I suggest a daily session of meditation...5 mins of being still, imho, will suffice...

Lastly, your "healing" will take time...don't be too hard on yourself...!?

Good Luck!! ;)

hunter77
19-03-2009, 09:51 PM
You reveal your benightedness once again.

Understand this: Shit is shit. Composted shit is not shit. Composted shit, which is soil, makes plants grow.

No double standards here.

iam aware of compost young man, as i have two horses which create plenty of good growing nutrients. iam a keen veg grower( pretty much self sufficient that way) SO DONT TELL YOUR GRAND MOTHER HOW TO SUCK DISEASED CHICKEN PERIODS( EGGS):rolleyes:

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 09:56 PM
This book will certainly sort you out:

Conscious Eating
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513Q9iPqPWL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU02_.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Conscious-Eating-Gabriel-Cousens/dp/1556432852/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237496113&sr=8-1

tusme
19-03-2009, 10:06 PM
Sure, but bad diet prevents most from such enlightenment. The raw diet makes the road clear for them.
I know what you mean, Ratiocinator.

I don't consider myself "enlightened", only for the fact that I love my "cooked food"...and I ain't giving it up!! :D

With all due respect, only the lack of Truth will prevent someone from achieving "enlightenment"...imho!!

lightgiver
19-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Hey i am all for raw veg and the like,what if its sprayed to hell with chemicals,have you seen the price of organic:eek:,purposely high priced when it should be low priced,so ratiocinator how does one over come that one?
apart from doing your own,but in reality who gets the time?

so jesalyn ,i to used to suffer with ailments quite a lot,and i am sorry to hear of your misfortunes,

Eating a well balanced diet and lightly steaming your veg,also de juicers help immensely,especially grapefruit,which helps burn fat,do not mix protein and carb meals,eat them separately IE,potatoes and meat ,no,eat your carb 1st,or vice versa,Preferable not much meat at all.Cut down on dairy also.do not drink liquids straight after meal,wait at least 1 hour.Do not eat fruit on a full stomach,eat fruit first on empty stomach.Avoid sweets and junk food.

Exercise,yoga or tai chi.

Nasal wash,Neti,get a small container with salty water and up your nose, and wash out your sinuses,gently does it,and try and get a few early nights a week.

Hope that helps:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana

http://tuberose.com/Food_Combining.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

A few links for you to help expand your Knowledge.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 10:15 PM
I don't consider myself "enlightened", only for the fact that I love my "cooked food"...and I ain't giving it up!! :D

You are an addict, as most of us are - addicts or recovering addicts.

It takes around two months to escape past taste preferences and fully transition to new foods. It took me two months to get over my unhealthy former foods as it takes most this amount of time. It is possible to escape the pull of the warm, cooked food in favour for the cooler raw food.

I wonder if you will heed my warning or wait until you get bad news from a doctor? Most need some exigent push to transition to healthier ways, while some never will and die needlessly.

Don't think of it as going without; just gradually increase raw food recipes into your diet. Eventually you will no longer have any room left for unhealthy cooked foods. In fact, you will find, if you try enough recipes or the right recipes, that the raw food is far superior to the cooked food. Apart from taste, raw food has a strong sense of 'aliveness' and vibrancy, due in no small part to the living enzymes it contains. These enzymes are vital and are all destroyed by heating food.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Hey i am all for raw veg and the like,what if its sprayed to hell with chemicals,have you seen the price of organic:eek:,purposely high priced when it should be low priced,so ratiocinator how does one over come that one?

Have you read my article The Post-Money Paradise?

Money is control; it is how the elites control the populace. One aspect of this control is to make proper food unobtainable by the common person, who opts to save money by feeding themselves and their children poisonous filth.

There are several ways to overcome this money problem concerning food: Harvest the wild growing food which grows around you, grow your own food, work for your local organic farmer in exchange for food, don't worry about the money - invite it, only eat what is truly needed - a quantity which is easily affordable by the majority.

People seem to have no problem finding money for all kinds of shit they do not need, yet skimp on the food shopping! Fools. Health comes first, even if it means living in a tent, selling the computer, wearing the same clothes for ten years.

Pesticides destroy health, plants, soil, wildlife, the air and the water. There is no excuse to encourage the agrochemical industry - it is destroying our living environment and bringing death to all.

hunter77
19-03-2009, 10:31 PM
Have you read my article The Post-Money Paradise?

Money is control; it is how the elites control the populace. One aspect of this control is to make proper food unobtainable by the common person, who opts to save money by feeding themselves and their children poisonous filth.

There are several ways to overcome this money problem concerning food: Harvest the wild growing food which grows around you, grow your own food, work for your local organic farmer in exchange for food, don't worry about the money - invite it, only eat what is truly needed - a quantity which is easily affordable by the majority.

People seem to have no problem finding money for all kinds of shit they do not need, yet skimp on the food shopping! Fools. Health comes first, even if it means living in a tent, selling the computer, wearing the same clothes for ten years.

Pesticides destroy health, plants, soil, wildlife, the air and the water. There is no excuse to encourage the agrochemical industry - it is destroying our living environment and bringing death to all.

hate to say this but you made alot of sense there:(

hunter77
19-03-2009, 10:35 PM
Hey i am all for raw veg and the like,what if its sprayed to hell with chemicals,have you seen the price of organic:eek:,purposely high priced when it should be low priced,so ratiocinator how does one over come that one?
apart from doing your own,but in reality who gets the time?

so jesalyn ,i to used to suffer with ailments quite a lot,and i am sorry to hear of your misfortunes,

Eating a well balanced diet and lightly steaming your veg,also de juicers help immensely,especially grapefruit,which helps burn fat,do not mix protein and carb meals,eat them separately IE,potatoes and meat ,no,eat your carb 1st,or vice versa,Preferable not much meat at all.Cut down on dairy also.do not drink liquids straight after meal,wait at least 1 hour.Do not eat fruit on a full stomach,eat fruit first on empty stomach.Avoid sweets and junk food.

Exercise,yoga or tai chi.

Nasal wash,Neti,get a small container with salty water and up your nose, and wash out your sinuses,gently does it,and try and get a few early nights a week.

Hope that helps:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana

http://tuberose.com/Food_Combining.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

A few links for you to help expand your Knowledge.

its not time consuming growing your own veg, once you have put in the ground work it takes perhaps an hour a day. once spring is off and running you will reap the benefits. its also good for the soul eating what youve grown , and
tending to it. :(:D

noesis
19-03-2009, 10:39 PM
Yes, it sounds exactly what I've been going through. It's been going on for about 7 years. I'm pretty sure it's a fungal infection that I got from having allergies.

It's difficult cycle to break, because you try to exercise too much to get healthier, you actually feel worse because you're body is constantly using energy to fight your infection. You have to fight the infection first and then start exercising slowly as your energy comes back.

I got tired of doctors and conventional methods just this past month when I got another sinus infection. I started looking at some more radical cures and found one that works for me! I was actually going to start a thread about it. I wanted to try colloidal silver, but I'm still nursing so I was a bit apprehensive about using it now.

What has been working for me is hydrogen peroxide. Here's is a link to how to make the solution and how to flood your sinuses.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765

It's completely insane what came out of my sinuses!

I know I still have a lot of healing to do, but it's so much easier when you can breath and you have a bit more energy. One important part of healing is diet change. I find it challenging to stop eating sugar, but I feel so much better when I do.

Good luck with your healing! I understand how frustrating it can be.

I agree with the nasal irrigation ... a colleague swears by it (she uses a neti see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation) but i've found a cheap plastic condiment bottle works just as good!

tusme
19-03-2009, 10:58 PM
You are an addict, as most of us are - addicts or recovering addicts.

It takes around two months to escape past taste preferences and fully transition to new foods. It took me two months to get over my unhealthy former foods as it takes most this amount of time. It is possible to escape the pull of the warm, cooked food in favour for the cooler raw food.

I wonder if you will heed my warning or wait until you get bad news from a doctor? Most need some exigent push to transition to healthier ways, while some never will and die needlessly.

Don't think of it as going without; just gradually increase raw food recipes into your diet. Eventually you will no longer have any room left for unhealthy cooked foods. In fact, you will find, if you try enough recipes or the right recipes, that the raw food is far superior to the cooked food. Apart from taste, raw food has a strong sense of 'aliveness' and vibrancy, due in no small part to the living enzymes it contains. These enzymes are vital and are all destroyed by heating food.
:D..."addiction". imho, is a negative energy, Ratiocinator...and the fact you're focussing so much of your own (positive) energy towards that negative energy, where's the enlightenment in that...? :eek: :)

So, because I love "cooked food", why does that have to mean I'm not living a happy & pleasant life...!? :confused: I love my life, wouldn't have it any other way...!! :)

I think I can manage a raw-food diet...what I can't, is my hypocrisy...!? :D

lightgiver
19-03-2009, 11:02 PM
Have you read my article The Post-Money Paradise?

Money is control; it is how the elites control the populace. One aspect of this control is to make proper food unobtainable by the common person, who opts to save money by feeding themselves and their children poisonous filth.

There are several ways to overcome this money problem concerning food: Harvest the wild growing food which grows around you, grow your own food, work for your local organic farmer in exchange for food, don't worry about the money - invite it, only eat what is truly needed - a quantity which is easily affordable by the majority.

People seem to have no problem finding money for all kinds of shit they do not need, yet skimp on the food shopping! Fools. Health comes first, even if it means living in a tent, selling the computer, wearing the same clothes for ten years.

Pesticides destroy health, plants, soil, wildlife, the air and the water. There is no excuse to encourage the agrochemical industry - it is destroying our living environment and bringing death to all.

You are telling the wrong person Ratiocinator,you need to be telling the Elites or TPTB;)

I am already aware,most folk cannot even afford a descent meal.:(

lightgiver
19-03-2009, 11:05 PM
its not time consuming growing your own veg, once you have put in the ground work it takes perhaps an hour a day. once spring is off and running you will reap the benefits. its also good for the soul eating what youve grown , and
tending to it. :(:D

I know ,I do,but we are on about other people,who cannot or get the time,due to the Rat race,and rats are nice really,so i should say the Messed up race,corrupted by TPTB.

I wish I could click my fingers and it happen tomorrow,but it isn't,not yet anyhow;)

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 11:05 PM
:D..."addiction". imho, is a negative energy, Ratiocinator...and the fact you're focussing so much of your own (positive) energy towards that negative energy, where's the enlightenment in that...? :eek: :)


Where is the enlightenment in you focusing your 'positive' energy on the fact that I focus mine on negative things? Would it not be wiser to heed the lesson, to act on the new information, as the universe presents it to you, by whatever means?

Perhaps the Universe has made it my purpose to identify the negative things and reveal them to the ill-doers.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 11:09 PM
I am already aware,most folk cannot even afford a descent meal.:(

They can in the UK. Unfortunately, most of the humans here are dumb plebs and imbeciles who can afford to spend 40 pounds on cigarettes and/or alcohol each week but not on proper organic fruits and vegetables.

They certainly find money for McShit and Coca Cola, as well as the shitty new clothes from the shopping centre, but not on spirulina.

Fucking idiots. I hope the earth cleansing comes soon.

tusme
19-03-2009, 11:28 PM
Where is the enlightenment in you focusing your 'positive' energy on the fact that I focus mine on negative things? Would it not be wiser to heed the lesson, to act on the new information, as the universe presents it to you, by whatever means?

Perhaps the Universe has made it my purpose to identify the negative things and reveal them to the ill-doers.
:D..."enlightenment in me"...!? I didn't say that, did I...!? :confused:

Thanks for the lesson...!! ;) Perhaps you should stop being so judgemental about other people's eating habits...and using "enlightenment" as the reward...

I'm curious...if all the elite/TPTB, changed their diets to raw-foods...do you think it would make any difference to their "enlightenment"...!?

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 11:38 PM
:D..."enlightenment in me"...!? I didn't say that, did I...!? :confused:

You misread it.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 11:38 PM
Thanks for the lesson...!! ;) Perhaps you should stop being so judgemental about other people's eating habits...and using "enlightenment" as the reward...

Define 'judgmental' and give me an example.

Ratiocinator
19-03-2009, 11:39 PM
I'm curious...if all the elite/TPTB, changed their diets to raw-foods...do you think it would make any difference to their "enlightenment"...!?

If they are human, perhaps. Who knows? many say that they are certainly constipated, so it would clear that problem up.

tusme
19-03-2009, 11:58 PM
Define 'judgmental' and give me an example.
"Judgemental", because my dietary habits does not meet your standards...and therefore, "enlightenment" is impossible...!?

I don't eat McDonald's, and I know what you mean...but that does not make you or I any better human beings than those who do buy and eat from McDonald's...!!

hunter77
20-03-2009, 12:03 AM
I know ,I do,but we are on about other people,who cannot or get the time,due to the Rat race,and rats are nice really,so i should say the Messed up race,corrupted by TPTB.

I wish I could click my fingers and it happen tomorrow,but it isn't,not yet anyhow;)

not having time in many cases(not all) is just an excuse for being lazy. all you need to do to grow is veg is dig your garden over, fertiliese it( may not always be nesscercary) and follow the instructions on the seed packet, simple:) i have worked 50 hrs so far this wk and still manage to do this.
the ptb want people to be reliant on all things that they provide so the more power we take take from them the better , even if its a few herbs in a window box. peace friend:)

Ratiocinator
20-03-2009, 12:06 AM
"Judgemental", because my dietary habits does not meet your standards...and therefore, "enlightenment" is impossible...!?

I did not say that. You are failing to answer the question I posed.

I don't eat McDonald's, and I know what you mean...but that does not makes you or I any better human beings than those who do buy and eat from McDonald's...!!

depends on what you mean by 'better.' A person who feasts on junk food would make inferior fertilizer after they die. I would rather grow food in ground fertilized by vegan corpses than by junk food corpses.

I could go on, but that probably says it all.

hunter77
20-03-2009, 12:07 AM
I did not say that. You are failing to answer the question I posed.



depends on what you mean by 'better.' A person who feasts on junk food would make inferior fertilizer after they die. I would rather grow food in ground fertilized by vegan corpses than by junk food corpses.

I could go on, but that probably says it all.

im all for fetilized vegan corpses:D

Ratiocinator
20-03-2009, 12:16 AM
im all for fetilized vegan corpses:D

Another death threat?

hunter77
20-03-2009, 12:18 AM
no sir not at all, :confused: where do i mention death or you, just agreeing with your choice of general fertilizer.

tusme
20-03-2009, 12:20 AM
I did not say that. You are failing to answer the question I posed.

depends on what you mean by 'better.' A person who feasts on junk food would make inferior fertilizer after they die. I would rather grow food in ground fertilized by vegan corpses than by junk food corpses.

I could go on, but that probably says it all.
Well, what's the problem having cooked food then...?

You started off with "enlightenment", but now it's shifted to "vegan/junk food corpses"...and the quality of fertilizers...!? :confused:

Would it matter if all corpses were simply cremated...?

boots
20-03-2009, 12:36 AM
They can in the UK. Unfortunately, most of the humans here are dumb plebs and imbeciles who can afford to spend 40 pounds on cigarettes and/or alcohol each week but not on proper organic fruits and vegetables.

They certainly find money for McShit and Coca Cola, as well as the shitty new clothes from the shopping centre, but not on spirulina.

Fucking idiots. I hope the earth cleansing comes soon.

Well that's just lovely isn't:rolleyes:

Sickness just doesn't come from food but from the heart and mind.

We should help everyone to get a balance in food and mind.

brainfreeze
20-03-2009, 12:41 AM
Just checked out your myspace. Cool tunes, AND you're a little bit yummy, aren't you?!

To stay on topic, nice advise :)


Whoops...was meant as a compliment and not a come on, but some peeps don't know how to take compliments given, so I retract.

hunter77
20-03-2009, 12:42 AM
Whoops...was meant as a compliment and not a come on, but some peeps don't know how to take compliments given, so I retract.

you fancy him:D

brainfreeze
20-03-2009, 12:44 AM
you fancy him:D

Nah. I have the love of my life with me here thanks. MC is nice looking. He looks about the age of my eldest son. He's also too young to take a compliment as it is meant, is all. No harm done :)

EDIT: It could also be that since I've changed my avatar I'm pretty much ignored PMSL but at least peeps don't expect me to believe their BS either ;)

hunter77
20-03-2009, 12:48 AM
Nah. I have the love of my life with me here thanks. MC is nice looking. He looks about the age of my eldest son. He's also too young to take a compliment as it is meant, is all. No harm done :)

only joking, he's a decent intelligent guy iam sure he would take it the right way:)

brainfreeze
20-03-2009, 12:50 AM
only joking, he's a decent intelligent guy iam sure he would take it the right way:)

I added an edit to my post which possibly contributes to the deafening silence. Not even an "aw shucks thanks" :p

lightgiver
20-03-2009, 12:57 AM
They can in the UK. Unfortunately, most of the humans here are dumb plebs and imbeciles who can afford to spend 40 pounds on cigarettes and/or alcohol each week but not on proper organic fruits and vegetables.

They certainly find money for McShit and Coca Cola, as well as the shitty new clothes from the shopping centre, but not on spirulina.

Fucking idiots. I hope the earth cleansing comes soon.

That does not sound very enlightening:confused: calling people plebs and the rest of it,that will really win them over.

Shit food is cheap. not everyone is on good money and a lot are not as educated as others.

You need to try and extend your wisdom and compassion more and then your path to enlightenment may succeed.:)

lightgiver
20-03-2009, 01:02 AM
not having time in many cases(not all) is just an excuse for being lazy. all you need to do to grow is veg is dig your garden over, fertiliese it( may not always be nesscercary) and follow the instructions on the seed packet, simple:) i have worked 50 hrs so far this wk and still manage to do this.
the ptb want people to be reliant on all things that they provide so the more power we take take from them the better , even if its a few herbs in a window box. peace friend:)

and many work long hours,low wages and have familys to attend to.

Also not everyone can get land to grow on,have you seen some parts of Britain and the world?

All this should be coming from the ones running the country and the world,they are the real culprits,leading everyone down the wrong path,and creating this mess in the 1st place.

Do not forget not everyone is as educated as the next person and a lot need a guiding hand and knowledge.:)

hunter77
20-03-2009, 01:04 AM
That does not sound very enlightening:confused: calling people plebs,that will really win them over.

Shit food is cheap. not everyone is on good money and a lot are not as educated as others.

You need to try and extend your wisdom and compassion more and then your path to enlightenment may succeed.:)

i agree calling people plebs is not going to help anyone. we should all try to help each other as much as we can without being elitest or condersending( thats what we have politicians for):D:)

lightgiver
20-03-2009, 01:05 AM
Well that's just lovely isn't:rolleyes:

Sickness just doesn't come from food but from the heart and mind.

We should help everyone to get a balance in food and mind.

well said boots,some one with wisdom and compassion:)

lightgiver
20-03-2009, 01:06 AM
i agree calling people plebs is not going to help anyone. we should all try to help each other as much as we can without being elitest or condersending( thats what we have politicians for):D:)

Agreed ;):)

boots
20-03-2009, 01:21 AM
I try and I fail. But I always try:)

I find it sad that everyone cant' have a large plot of land to do what they want on it. It's possible with the technology that is available. It's just those in power wont let us have it.

I large farm with happy animals who dont mind being eaten. lol That my POV :o:)

jesalyn
20-03-2009, 02:34 AM
I would LOVE to grow my own food. We are renting at the moment and our land-lord said just cut the lawn no planting stuff. I would love my children to actually see where food comes from.

I'm starting small, working out, and slowly changing my diet from crap back to good. I have had so many MAJOR problems, I'm sure my system is compromised (I have other health problems I haven't listed).

I have heard of the peroxide in your nose thing, my husband did it once I thought he was going to die! I've also heard of the salt water in the nose thing too. I'll try them.

I was telling my husband they otherday that America is messed up, the poor people are fat and the rich people are skinny. Crap food is cheap, the good stuff does cost some money.

Thanks for the constructive advice.

thelucifer
20-03-2009, 03:38 AM
I would LOVE to grow my own food. We are renting at the moment and our land-lord said just cut the lawn no planting stuff. I would love my children to actually see where food comes from.

I'm starting small, working out, and slowly changing my diet from crap back to good. I have had so many MAJOR problems, I'm sure my system is compromised (I have other health problems I haven't listed).

I have heard of the peroxide in your nose thing, my husband did it once I thought he was going to die! I've also heard of the salt water in the nose thing too. I'll try them.

I was telling my husband they otherday that America is messed up, the poor people are fat and the rich people are skinny. Crap food is cheap, the good stuff does cost some money.

Thanks for the constructive advice.


Yes, snorting peroxide is very effective, if there are any bugs in there they are dead.
3% is a little tough but not that bad, try cutting it in half with water your first couple times.

metacomet
20-03-2009, 04:07 AM
Fucking idiots. I hope the earth cleansing comes soon.

Wow.

Is this the raw-food diet talking? Maybe you had a little too many fruit smoothies?

If you can ooze so much hatred and dogma over a diet it really helps me understand why so many wars have been fought over religion...

metacomet
20-03-2009, 04:10 AM
My ears are burning!

I added an edit to my post which possibly contributes to the deafening silence. Not even an "aw shucks thanks" :p

:D thanks I'm very flattered

brainfreeze
20-03-2009, 04:16 AM
My ears are burning!



:D thanks I'm very flattered

Ah that's better. It was nearly your bum that was gonna be burning, ignoring my compliment like that :confused: ;)

cleft_asunder
20-03-2009, 04:28 AM
Yes, it sounds exactly what I've been going through. It's been going on for about 7 years. I'm pretty sure it's a fungal infection that I got from having allergies.

It's difficult cycle to break, because you try to exercise too much to get healthier, you actually feel worse because you're body is constantly using energy to fight your infection. You have to fight the infection first and then start exercising slowly as your energy comes back.

I got tired of doctors and conventional methods just this past month when I got another sinus infection. I started looking at some more radical cures and found one that works for me! I was actually going to start a thread about it. I wanted to try colloidal silver, but I'm still nursing so I was a bit apprehensive about using it now.

What has been working for me is hydrogen peroxide. Here's is a link to how to make the solution and how to flood your sinuses.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765

It's completely insane what came out of my sinuses!

I know I still have a lot of healing to do, but it's so much easier when you can breath and you have a bit more energy. One important part of healing is diet change. I find it challenging to stop eating sugar, but I feel so much better when I do.

Good luck with your healing! I understand how frustrating it can be.

Thanks for the link. I have really bad sinus problems where I'm forced to spit out mucus throughout the day. I am going to give this a shot. BTW, coloidal silver could be added to the mixture. It also kills many types of bacteria et cetera.

tusme
20-03-2009, 01:32 PM
I would LOVE to grow my own food. We are renting at the moment and our land-lord said just cut the lawn no planting stuff. I would love my children to actually see where food comes from.

I'm starting small, working out, and slowly changing my diet from crap back to good. I have had so many MAJOR problems, I'm sure my system is compromised (I have other health problems I haven't listed).

I have heard of the peroxide in your nose thing, my husband did it once I thought he was going to die! I've also heard of the salt water in the nose thing too. I'll try them.

I was telling my husband they otherday that America is messed up, the poor people are fat and the rich people are skinny. Crap food is cheap, the good stuff does cost some money.

Thanks for the constructive advice.
Hi Jesalyn,

You've not actually mentioned what exactly it is, your sinuses problem is about...?

I suffered from sinuses for a number of years, after numerous examinations, X-rays and mis-diagnosis, it turned out my problem was a "bent septoplast"...all it took was a short operation (under general anaesthetic).

I've never had problems breathing (through my nose) again, since...thank GOD!! My allround health and indeed my sleep literally changed overnight, for the better, need I say...!! ...and no hayfever for me either...!! ;) :)

I'm not saying it is, but if your sinuses is a chronic problem, then, perhaps it's something you might want to ask your doctor to examine your sinuses, for that possibility...?

Good Luck!! ;)

unimatrix0
20-03-2009, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the link. I have really bad sinus problems where I'm forced to spit out mucus throughout the day. I am going to give this a shot. BTW, coloidal silver could be added to the mixture. It also kills many types of bacteria et cetera.

You're welcome! And just a warning for anyone who does try this: I felt really sick for about 4 days. This may not happen to you, but if it does, it's normal! I also felt even more stuffed up for a couple of days. But I kept on going and things finally started clearing out.

unimatrix0
20-03-2009, 03:41 PM
I would LOVE to grow my own food. We are renting at the moment and our land-lord said just cut the lawn no planting stuff. I would love my children to actually see where food comes from.

I'm starting small, working out, and slowly changing my diet from crap back to good. I have had so many MAJOR problems, I'm sure my system is compromised (I have other health problems I haven't listed).

I have heard of the peroxide in your nose thing, my husband did it once I thought he was going to die! I've also heard of the salt water in the nose thing too. I'll try them.

I was telling my husband they otherday that America is messed up, the poor people are fat and the rich people are skinny. Crap food is cheap, the good stuff does cost some money.

Thanks for the constructive advice.

Well, I'm sure that doesn't help you be too eager to try it then! Did he dilute it? Even diluted it does hurt a bit, so I can imagine what pure peroxide would feel like. I've been doing salt water flushes for years. They are good to keep infections away, but for me, it doesn't get rid of an existing infection.

happyhouse
25-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Hello

I can understand, as no one particularly likes colds and flu's - but rest assured, it has been statistically shown that people who rarely get ill are most likely to drop dead suddenly without warning - true!

The odd flu stimulates the immune system, and gives it a shot in the arm, so to speak - similar to positive immune stress...

Regardless, I have found the best protocol to get rid of sudden onset pathologies is to engage Jim Humble’s MMS protocol.

This product is centred around the compound chlorine dioxide, and you can read more about it at www.mmshealthyforlife.com in which many peoples real life testimonials are given.

This product can be sourced by a reputable supplier at www.mmshealthy4life.com

It makes for an interesting and provocative read...

Hope this helps...

Kind regards...

Adam

onourwayto2012
25-05-2009, 06:27 PM
Hello

I can understand, as no one particularly likes colds and flu's - but rest assured, it has been statistically shown that people who rarely get ill are most likely to drop dead suddenly without warning - true!

The odd flu stimulates the immune system, and gives it a shot in the arm, so to speak - similar to positive immune stress...

Regardless, I have found the best protocol to get rid of sudden onset pathologies is to engage Jim Humble’s MMS protocol.

This product is centred around the compound chlorine dioxide, and you can read more about it at www.mmshealthyforlife.com in which many peoples real life testimonials are given.

This product can be sourced by a reputable supplier at www.mmshealthy4life.com

It makes for an interesting and provocative read...

Hope this helps...

Kind regards...

Adam
Yes!.....jes sounds like a perfect candidate for MMS

motleyhoo
26-05-2009, 07:10 AM
Wow. I didn't know I started a heated arguement :eek:.

I was raised eating no meat, pork, eggs, milk, white flour, sugar, gluten, chocolate, sulfites, nitrates, artificial anything, exc, exc. My mom is a "health" food chef, and macrobiotic chef. I know the raw foods sounds un-appealing because I know what it entails :D

I do agree on the spiritual healing, I need lots of that with the miscarriages and near-death with the heart surgery (I had a heart birth defect I never knew about).

I guess I don't know where to start with either!

Welcome to the "heart club". I nearly died and had to have open heart surgery because of a birth defect I never knew about. It caused me to have a heart attack while out on my bicycle. But that's what I want to get to.

When I was yonger I was sick all the time, colds, sore throat, ear aches, allergies. It was miserable. Then I discovered cycling. Since I started cycling 8 years ago I hardly ever get sick of anything anymore. I am back cycling again, but because the heart attack forced me to improve my diet, I virtually never get sick anymore now. I take a few supplements (whole food multivitamin and antioxidants) and I eat a balanced organic diet. I also replaced all the cleaners in my home with non-toxic things.

I tried the raw diet and it wasn't for me. IMO, eating raw is not necessary to be healthy.
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