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vienna
19-03-2009, 11:04 AM
I've blanked out personal details...

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Dear Sir

I'm looking into getting a Apostille Certificate to travel to xxxxxxxxx so I do not need to use my passport

I'm also looking into becoming a freeman of the Land and to relinquish my corporate fiction (hence why I want to relinquish the passport )

could you tell me if xxxxxxxxx would accept this process if I get an Apostille Certificate?


kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ _______

Dear xxxxxxxx

If I understand you correctly you intend to use an apostille certificate in place of a passport to travel. The apostille certificate is a certificate attached to another document to verify its official seals or signatures. It is not a stand alone certificate that serves any other purpose. This would therefore be no use for travel in place of a passport. In addition xxxxxxxxx do not recognise the apostille certificate in its own right as they have not signed up to the relevant international law so we would need to do some additional embassy legalisation.

If I have misunderstood your enquiry please provide further information on what documentation you are trying to verify.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ______


Dear Steve

apologies for not being clearer

as I understand it, it was possible for a family or individual to travel across international borders before the introduction of passports on a family bible or equivalent

If I had a claim of right and notice of intent signed by Notary as to my Freeman status and identity etc.

could I then use a Apostille Certificate attached to such?


kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ __

Dear xxxxxxxxxx

Thank you for clarifying. Just so long as the document has been signed by a UK Notary then yes we can issue an apostille to the document. For the purposes of the apostille we are only interested in the signatures of the Notary and not the actual content of the document.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ____

Thanks Steve

just a final query

1.would UK immigration recognise this and allow me to travel without passport at customs - both exiting and returning to the UK


2.would xxxxxxxxx recognise it on arrival at their customs (in view of what you said about xxxxxxxxxx not signing up to international law)


3.what is the cost of getting the Apostille Certificate

kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ ______

Hi xxxxxxxxxxx


In response to your questions –

1) Counties that recognise the apostille should accept and document with an apostille as genuine. The apostille is a way of saying “this document is what it says it is” and has been legally certified by our government. In the case of your document I believe you will effectively be making a statement/declaration in front of a notary who will then sign to say you have made said declaration. The apostille then confirms the notary is a real notary and the signature is genuine. When you present this outside of the UK the country should acknowledge that the notary is real but whether they accept the contents of the document and allow you to enter the country is something I could not advise on.

2) To validate the apostille for xxxxxxxxx would require additional legalisation at their embassy which we can arrange. However, as in my response to question one I do not know if this will allow you entry to xxxxxxxxxx.

3) The apostille will be charged at £63.80, the xxxxxxxxx embassy legalisation I estimate at between £60 to £100. It varies from one embassy to another so if you decided to do this I would double check their procedure and charges and give you a definite price.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ________________

yozhik
19-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Brilliant work !!

Can't wait to try it :)
The fee is no more, no less than a visa to some countries anyway, and the look on the faces of the customs and immigration robots will be priceless ... definitely worth the fee alone :D

Ian2day
19-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Remember though. If you are stopped and addressed as a 'person' do not reply as such. Instead retort no, I am not a person. I am a real living breathing human being with God given rights granted to me on my birth as recognised under the treaty in Hague. I would even go sofar as to question the need for a visa if the country has signed up to the Hague.

What is important is that you contact the embassy of the country which you wish to travel to and inform them of your intent to travel across the border unpeeded except as to verify you have the correct documents. As is your God given human right under the Hague convention.

Also it is important that you contact the foreign & commonwealth office and inform them of the documents you have and that you intend to move freely over the borders in their control unpeaded etc. You should only need to contact them once. Once confimed that you have the correct travel documents. They do not as far as I know ever expire.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57531
If enough people declare their Freeman status and combine together to form a community. Maybe it would be possible to then apply to the Hague to be recognissed as a cultural group without a homeland. This would give collectively more sway and the ability to seek a share of the worlds wealth from various funds.

soulconnect
20-03-2009, 03:07 AM
Hi Guys this is hot stuff

Could we do this also in Australia and how can this be applied?

Thanks in advance

yozhik
20-03-2009, 08:08 PM
I'm just re-reading this thread and paying particular attention to what the Apostille service has stated.

Seems it all comes down to the original document.
because he is saying that you can attach an Apostille to the notarised document, which simply evidences that the notary is bona fide and you are who you say you are.
He is also very specific that the Apostille does not draw any conclusions about the actual document; it simply verifies and confirms its authenticity - not its content.

I think the Apostille could be extremely significant, but it needs to be on a document which has been crafted so as to serve its purpose.

EDIT
In my search, I cam across this ... I found it "interesting".
Strange how we haven't heard about this, either the concept or in fact the organisation.
http://www.som.com/content.cfm/international_treaty_organization_headquarters

Ian2day
20-03-2009, 08:35 PM
I'm just re-reading this thread and paying particular attention to what the Apostille service has stated.

Seems it all comes down to the original document.
because he is saying that you can attach an Apostille to the notarised document, which simply evidences that the notary is bona fide and you are who you say you are.
He is also very specific that the Apostille does not draw any conclusions about the actual document; it simply verifies and confirms its authenticity - not its content.

I think the Apostille could be extremely significant, but it needs to be on a document which has been crafted so as to serve its purpose.

EDIT
In my search, I cam across this ... I found it "interesting".
Strange how we haven't heard about this, either the concept or in fact the organisation.
http://www.som.com/content.cfm/international_treaty_organization_headquarters


Just look at the numerology in the stats for the organisations headquarters


Project Facts
Completion Year: 2012
Site Area: 100 acres
Project Area: 2,000,000 ft2
Building Height: 33.50 m
Number of Stories: 7


If we become declared as a nation we can have some snazzy offices too!

legalrights
17-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Planning to teach in South Korea? or, you 217;re already there and you have to renew your visa?
One of the most important first steps to traveling to a different country is ensuring that have the proper documents. The next step is ensuring that you have professional support to ensure that your international documents are in order.

There is necessary documentation for traveling to South Korea for purposes of teaching which includes usually, the following documentation: US Passport, Visa, apostilled criminal record check, application, apostilled copy of your degree, other academic transcripts and relevant teaching diplomas or certificates and a self assessment health statement. Worrying about your apostille legalization needs can be a daunting, time consuming and potentially costly task if not done both orderly and properly.

Professional services are available to take both the stress and strain out of ensuring that you’re most important documents are legalized for international use. Having a professional Apostille service is essential to the success of your international travels and ensuring the right necessary documentation is authentic and ready for your teaching experience in South Korea.

Being able to rely on a professional service whose expertise is in the areas of Apostille and Embassy Legalization will put allow you to focus on the other important details relating to your experience abroad.

Apostilla.com, Inc. offers dedicated knowledgeable services from a successful business that specializes in the area of apostille services. 24-hour turn around times, rush delivery and quality you can count on, and free FedEx shipments to South Korea. Let us take the stress out of your travels abroad. We will keep you up to date and informed of each step of the process while at the same time assist you in gathering your documents; apostille services from background checks and educational documents to any other necessary certificates and ensuring they are ready for your date of travel.

the worm that turned
17-08-2009, 11:36 AM
Planning to teach in South Korea? or, you 217;re already there and you have to renew your visa?
One of the most important first steps to traveling to a different country is ensuring that have the proper documents. The next step is ensuring that you have professional support to ensure that your international documents are in order.

There is necessary documentation for traveling to South Korea for purposes of teaching which includes usually, the following documentation: US Passport, Visa, apostilled criminal record check, application, apostilled copy of your degree, other academic transcripts and relevant teaching diplomas or certificates and a self assessment health statement. Worrying about your apostille legalization needs can be a daunting, time consuming and potentially costly task if not done both orderly and properly.

Professional services are available to take both the stress and strain out of ensuring that you’re most important documents are legalized for international use. Having a professional Apostille service is essential to the success of your international travels and ensuring the right necessary documentation is authentic and ready for your teaching experience in South Korea.

Being able to rely on a professional service whose expertise is in the areas of Apostille and Embassy Legalization will put allow you to focus on the other important details relating to your experience abroad.

Apostilla.com, Inc. offers dedicated knowledgeable services from a successful business that specializes in the area of apostille services. 24-hour turn around times, rush delivery and quality you can count on, and free FedEx shipments to South Korea. Let us take the stress out of your travels abroad. We will keep you up to date and informed of each step of the process while at the same time assist you in gathering your documents; apostille services from background checks and educational documents to any other necessary certificates and ensuring they are ready for your date of travel.

:confused:

yozhik
17-08-2009, 11:54 AM
Had an interesting discussion with someone in the Police, re: Subject Access Request, which is the necessary "police check" for visa and travel purposes, as requested by foreign nations.

This is your right under the Freedom of Information Act, to access the information held about you, in the Police National Database.

No foreign power has access to this.

To circumvent this, they try to contract with you, as their agent, to obtain the information.
You need to comprehend this; they do not have the right to this information. They can not obtain it by themselves, so try to enforce this obligation upon you, to freely and consensually, provide this information to them.


Just thought this might be interesting to know.
:)

tien an
17-08-2009, 07:58 PM
I've blanked out personal details...

__________________________________________________ _____________

Dear Sir

I'm looking into getting a Apostille Certificate to travel to xxxxxxxxx so I do not need to use my passport

I'm also looking into becoming a freeman of the Land and to relinquish my corporate fiction (hence why I want to relinquish the passport )

could you tell me if xxxxxxxxx would accept this process if I get an Apostille Certificate?


kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ _______

Dear xxxxxxxx

If I understand you correctly you intend to use an apostille certificate in place of a passport to travel. The apostille certificate is a certificate attached to another document to verify its official seals or signatures. It is not a stand alone certificate that serves any other purpose. This would therefore be no use for travel in place of a passport. In addition xxxxxxxxx do not recognise the apostille certificate in its own right as they have not signed up to the relevant international law so we would need to do some additional embassy legalisation.

If I have misunderstood your enquiry please provide further information on what documentation you are trying to verify.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ______


Dear Steve

apologies for not being clearer

as I understand it, it was possible for a family or individual to travel across international borders before the introduction of passports on a family bible or equivalent

If I had a claim of right and notice of intent signed by Notary as to my Freeman status and identity etc.

could I then use a Apostille Certificate attached to such?


kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ __

Dear xxxxxxxxxx

Thank you for clarifying. Just so long as the document has been signed by a UK Notary then yes we can issue an apostille to the document. For the purposes of the apostille we are only interested in the signatures of the Notary and not the actual content of the document.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ____

Thanks Steve

just a final query

1.would UK immigration recognise this and allow me to travel without passport at customs - both exiting and returning to the UK


2.would xxxxxxxxx recognise it on arrival at their customs (in view of what you said about xxxxxxxxxx not signing up to international law)


3.what is the cost of getting the Apostille Certificate

kindest regards
xxxxxxxxxx

__________________________________________________ ______

Hi xxxxxxxxxxx


In response to your questions –

1) Counties that recognise the apostille should accept and document with an apostille as genuine. The apostille is a way of saying “this document is what it says it is” and has been legally certified by our government. In the case of your document I believe you will effectively be making a statement/declaration in front of a notary who will then sign to say you have made said declaration. The apostille then confirms the notary is a real notary and the signature is genuine. When you present this outside of the UK the country should acknowledge that the notary is real but whether they accept the contents of the document and allow you to enter the country is something I could not advise on.

2) To validate the apostille for xxxxxxxxx would require additional legalisation at their embassy which we can arrange. However, as in my response to question one I do not know if this will allow you entry to xxxxxxxxxx.

3) The apostille will be charged at £63.80, the xxxxxxxxx embassy legalisation I estimate at between £60 to £100. It varies from one embassy to another so if you decided to do this I would double check their procedure and charges and give you a definite price.


Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services

Small Firms Services Ltd. (SFS)
Company Formations & Support Services
www.sfsgo.com || www.simpleformations.com
www.apostille.biz || www.simpleonlineshop.co.uk

__________________________________________________ ________________

Hey; you actually got someone decent there...who knows what they're talking about!
That, in itself, is a minor triumph.

tian an.

girlgye
17-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Hey V this looks real exciting study material.

Ian2day
18-08-2009, 10:35 AM
Legalrights is spamming an advert on a 5 month old thread. Hence only one post and a link to a website listing apostile services. Who would register on the board just to place a post on a 5 month old thread that was dropped off of the front page.

Lot of this threads info has already been covered in other threads.