Moon Base Alliance

[lightblessins]

Hi every1!:D Smiles all round!

For those of you that know there are bases on the moon:

I know for a fact there are Draconian/human/gray bases on the moon, and that there has always been bases on the moon since its arrive into our solar, iam just wondering if there are any other races in the same alliance which are also working within these moon bases, if so y?

PEACE!

:)

[ytch]

Hey there,

I don´t know about the moonbases,
but can you tell me, where my vibration should be in 2012?

Do you think I can just put them on a bus that goes there?
And where can I get tickets in advance(I really don´t wanna miss it...)?

sorry, off- topic, just kidding...;)
but I came across some of your posts during browsing the forum,
and I´ve got to say, I LIKE YOUR STYLEEE.

I thought it was worth mentioning...

so, clapclap, go back to play

love & laughter
(and a silly song once in a while)
ytch

P.S.: Somehow I really wonder about the vibe- thingy, any suggestions?:confused:

[whiteshadow]

I know for a fact there are Draconian/human/gray bases on the moon


A bold statement - 'knowing for a fact'. It makes me want to ask you how you could know this.
I'm not being confrontational - more curious, as if you have a cast iron factual basis for that statement I'm sure we would like to hear it.

[lightblessins]

A bold statement - 'knowing for a fact'. It makes me want to ask you how you could know this.
I'm not being confrontational - more curious, as if you have a cast iron factual basis for that statement I'm sure we would like to hear it.

there are many reasons for me coming to conclusion, im not 1 to paddle foot around always believing will never truely know or just argeeing that will all have our own believes etc etc cause at the end of the day wheather u believe in something or not it doesnt stop that thing existing, it just means u dont acknowledge it. so yes i know there are bases on the moon and have heard many others comfirming the same. poeple that speculate are just in denial, many will have to be slapped in the face and spun around 100 times b4 they finally believe. heres 1 source.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaSEMykvTg

[diky]

there are many reasons for me coming to conclusion, im not 1 to paddle foot around always believing will never truely know or just argeeing that will all have our own believes etc etc cause at the end of the day wheather u believe in something or not it doesnt stop that thing existing, it just means u dont acknowledge it. so yes i know there are bases on the moon and have heard many others comfirming the same. poeple that speculate are just in denial, many will have to be slapped in the face and spun around 100 times b4 they finally believe. heres 1 source.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaSEMykvTg

people that speculate are not in denial, they are reasonable enough to consider the evidence and not just believe any old shit just because they want to or they "have heard many others comfirming the same".

stating you know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading at best

[lightblessins]

people that speculate are not in denial, they are reasonable enough to consider the evidence and not just believe any old shit just because they want to or they "have heard many others comfirming the same".

stating you know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading at best

but people that over speculate are, i understand poeple questioning many of these subjects coz they sound mad! and there is very little evidence to support most of it. i dont think me stating that i know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading, ive had many experiences to lead me to that conlusion, i wont ever say something is ever certain until i know it to be 100% true. if poeple dont believe me thats fine, but it doesnt mean there not there.:)

[relax]

but people that over speculate are, i understand poeple questioning many of these subjects coz they sound mad! and there is very little evidence to support most of it. i dont think me stating that i know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading, ive had many experiences to lead me to that conlusion, i wont ever say something is ever certain until i know it to be 100% true. if poeple dont believe me thats fine, but it doesnt mean there not there.:)

No most of the people asking questions on this forum arnt people that think the ideas are mad, just would like some proof, thats obvious.

Why be so vague about it? Tell us about your 'Many' experiences that led you to the conclusion.

edit; That video doesnt work either.

[diky]

but people that over speculate are, i understand poeple questioning many of these subjects coz they sound mad! and there is very little evidence to support most of it. i dont think me stating that i know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading, ive had many experiences to lead me to that conlusion, i wont ever say something is ever certain until i know it to be 100% true. if poeple dont believe me thats fine, but it doesnt mean there not there.:)

if something sounds mad and there is very little evidence to support it i would suggest it is open to skepticism

if people do believe you it doesnt mean they are there either, in fact someone may be more likely to believe something if someone is proclaiming it to be a known fact (without any more more evidence than for instance someone else proclaiming it to be true)

what are the experiences that led you to that conclusion?

[lightblessins]

No most of the people asking questions on this forum arnt people that think the ideas are mad, just would like some proof, thats obvious.

Why be so vague about it? Tell us about your 'Many' experiences that led you to the conclusion.

edit; That video doesnt work either.

i was referring more to the general public, i know that most on this forum are more open, which is always a nice.

my conclusion:

1, many others research and knowledge know of this.
2, my m8 johns moon vids
3, general common sense
4, arcturians have told me so

[relax]

1, many others research and knowledge know of this.
2, my m8 johns moon vids
3, general common sense
4, arcturians have told me so

Brilliant

[diky]

my conclusion:

1, many others research and knowledge know of this.
2, my m8 johns moon vids
3, general common sense
4, arcturians have told me so

i think that says it all really

[lightblessins]

i think that says it all really

yup!:d

[diky]

what did the arcturians say?

[dane]

word up what did the acturians say man

[queenofleon]

Alex Collier is a good source for this. Plus Richard Hoagland. I personally believe there are bases too, and I also believe the moon is hollow, an artifical sattelite, like a massive spaceship. I also think it was brought here from another place.

Many sources say that the draconians hollow out small asteroids and use them as ship. Hales Bop was one they apparently used. obviously we cant take you there to prove it, but my intuition has always guided me correctly and I know that the moon isnt what we are officially told it is.

What a perfect way to enslave us by just habitating our frikkin moon.

this subject fascinates me!!

[lightblessins]

Alex Collier is a good source for this. Plus Richard Hoagland. I personally believe there are bases too, and I also believe the moon is hollow, an artifical sattelite, like a massive spaceship. I also think it was brought here from another place.

Many sources say that the draconians hollow out small asteroids and use them as ship. Hales Bop was one they apparently used. obviously we cant take you there to prove it, but my intuition has always guided me correctly and I know that the moon isnt what we are officially told it is.

What a perfect way to enslave us by just habitating our frikkin moon.

this subject fascinates me!!


yeah thats excatly what ive found out to be true as well! tho its what there doin there that interests me more now. i know they av biult may ships there.:)

[lightblessins]

what did the arcturians say?

that its under dracanion rule, they monitor earth from there, its their main outpost that looks over earth and humanity, they also biuld spaces in their, it is hallow and it has main base at the center.:)

[venividivici2311]

that its under dracanion rule, they monitor earth from there, its their main outpost that looks over earth and humanity, they also biuld spaces in their, it is hallow and it has main base at the center.:)

So,youre a contactee if i understand correctly? :)

[lightblessins]

So,youre a contactee if i understand correctly? :)

i guess so just not to much of good 1! lol! :D

[venividivici2311]

i guess so just not to much of good 1! lol! :D

Ceuwl!!!;)

[relax]

that its under dracanion rule, they monitor earth from there, its their main outpost that looks over earth and humanity, they also biuld spaces in their, it is hallow and it has main base at the center.:)

Why wouldnt they do it from inside the earth

[lightblessins]

Why wouldnt they do it from inside the earth

ive heard this could be a possibly tho im not sure on the subject but av heard others suggesting the same thing. i think they mainly use the moon as inner earth is more difficult to mine and clear space out of, it wouldnt surprise if there was some draconains down there. with there being a dark side to the moon they can do what they like away from the sight of humanity, they launch and repair alot of ships up there you could call the moon their main space ship base as it has a huge docking area, there would also be alot of difficulties in monitoring humans from inner earth, but whilst on the moon it can be done much easier as they can see the whole of earth constantly. :)

[relax]

ive heard this could be a possibly tho im not sure on the subject but av heard others suggesting the same thing. i think they mainly use the moon as inner earth is more difficult to mine and clear space out of, it wouldnt surprise if there was some draconains down there. with there being a dark side to the moon they can do what they like away from the sight of humanity, they launch and repair alot of ships up there you could call the moon their main space ship base as it has a huge docking area, there would also be alot of difficulties in monitoring humans from inner earth, but whilst on the moon it can be done much easier as they can see the whole of earth constantly. :)

Incredible, you really make me lose faith in the human race.

[lightblessins]

Incredible, you really make me lose faith in the human race.

how n why?:)

[omegasol]

my conclusion:

1, many others research and knowledge know of this.
2, my m8 johns moon vids
3, general common sense
4, arcturians have told me so

and again...."I know for a fact etc", yeah right. i´m sorry to repeat myself but: this forum is full of shit.

[lightblessins]

and again...."I know for a fact etc", yeah right. i´m sorry to repeat myself but: this forum is full of shit.

then what u doin on here?! :confused:

[branjo]

Interesting statement using the word "fact" n all.

I too think there is a lot more to the moon than a simple "moon". When we use the word Fact it is undeniably linked to actual physical evidence. The word itself is a left brained understanding. What you are saying is that you "Believe beyond doubt" that is very different than fact.

The Factual left brain side of the matter of knowing what is on the moon, are
1. You need a space program.
2. You need an actual rocket to get there
3. You need to be involved with the people who hold the other 2 points.

The right brained way of looking at it

1. You can use your spiritual knowledge and "feel" what is there
2. You can leave yourself open to channeling which also leaves the way open for any negativity to speak through you.
3. You can let someone elses beliefs cloud your perception of a predetermined answer.

Its a freaking tightrope and we are all trying to balance on it.

I can be factual and say love is real, but I cannot prove it with facts of anykind.

All that being said I basically agree with you ...:D but! we are not under constant control and never have been, there is all the evidence in the world and some would say proof that mind control has been used on us, but the underlying point is, it hasn't worked for very long.

Remember the saying "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time". Its a huge weak link in that chain.

We have to be very very careful when taking channeled messages as truth, here is my common sense approach on it.

If I was a super intelligent, highly spiritually advanced and benevolent being, would I mess with the natural order of things? Would I not have realized that through countless cycles of history of the reoccurring truth that "what ever will be, will be" regardless of the period of time in question.

Now if I were a technologically advanced race but spiritually immature and still in the grips of the denial of something above my intellect then I would certainly mess with the ability of the "sensitivity" of certain people through channeled messages, to do what "I" think is right for them.

The way I see it, when a channeled message gives you facts, figures and dates with certainty, then it is not coming from the light of love. When that message comes in with an eternal feeling of love and inner strength yet gives no indication of time or the need of the necessity of actions, then I would say that is from the place where we should be headed.

I too wrestle with the idea that the moon isn't so much "fake" and it is "really something else". We have little implanted thoughts from things like the Death Star from the Star Wars movies running around our heads, maybe a little seed planted to induce fear if that truth ever became fact, who really knows?

One aspect of common sense in regards of the moon not being a planetary moon is the sheer bloody size of it. No other planets seem to have a moon with that kind of ratio to the planet they orbit.

I can't bring myself to categorically state who put it there, or if the same beings that built it are the ones using it. It could be a lookout post built billions of years ago and long deserted only to be utilized by another race or races that came much later.

But if these "dragonians" are the ones conducting the state of the negativity on earth then the last thing we should do is fear them. Obviously we frighten them or they would absolutely have no reason at all to hide from us if they were a real threat to us. Maybe this is where trickery comes into play, like standing up to a bear, ok maybe not a bear ..lol but making yourself appear far bigger and braver than you actually are to hide the fact that your shitting yourself underneath the mask.

This leads me into the ancient drawings of ET races that might have came to earth having the heads of the animals we consider holy or represent strength in our minds. Kind of like the dudes from Stargate with the headdresses of snakes and birds, how else could a primitive people react to someone wearing that, "they must be our gods or gods nonetheless, lets obey them".

The nice part about your statement is that if the real truth of the right brain explanation of certainty is the actual truth, then the left brained facts were never needed and you could be 100% right.

Like I said, its a bloody tightrope and we need to tread very carefully.

[delamo1999]

Hi every1!:D Smiles all round!

For those of you that know there are bases on the moon:

I know for a fact there are Draconian/human/gray bases on the moon, and that there has always been bases on the moon since its arrive into our solar, iam just wondering if there are any other races in the same alliance which are also working within these moon bases, if so y?

PEACE!

:)


Hi Lightblessins!! This is a great thread and thanks for starting it. Do you have any more facts, intuitions, websites to expand on what you posted. I'd like to read up more on this. I have had my speculations in regards to the moon for a long time. I would not be surprised if it is already inhabited. This would explain the shoddy story of the 1969 moon landing.

:)

[lightblessins]

Hi Lightblessins!! This is a great thread and thanks for starting it. Do you have any more facts, intuitions, websites to expand on what you posted. I'd like to read up more on this. I have had my speculations in regards to the moon for a long time. I would not be surprised if it is already inhabited. This would explain the shoddy story of the 1969 moon landing.

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaSEMykvTg

:D

[lightblessins]

Interesting statement using the word "fact" n all.

I too think there is a lot more to the moon than a simple "moon". When we use the word Fact it is undeniably linked to actual physical evidence. The word itself is a left brained understanding. What you are saying is that you "Believe beyond doubt" that is very different than fact.

The Factual left brain side of the matter of knowing what is on the moon, are
1. You need a space program.
2. You need an actual rocket to get there
3. You need to be involved with the people who hold the other 2 points.

The right brained way of looking at it

1. You can use your spiritual knowledge and "feel" what is there
2. You can leave yourself open to channeling which also leaves the way open for any negativity to speak through you.
3. You can let someone elses beliefs cloud your perception of a predetermined answer.

Its a freaking tightrope and we are all trying to balance on it.

I can be factual and say love is real, but I cannot prove it with facts of anykind.

All that being said I basically agree with you ...:D but! we are not under constant control and never have been, there is all the evidence in the world and some would say proof that mind control has been used on us, but the underlying point is, it hasn't worked for very long.

Remember the saying "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time". Its a huge weak link in that chain.

We have to be very very careful when taking channeled messages as truth, here is my common sense approach on it.

If I was a super intelligent, highly spiritually advanced and benevolent being, would I mess with the natural order of things? Would I not have realized that through countless cycles of history of the reoccurring truth that "what ever will be, will be" regardless of the period of time in question.

Now if I were a technologically advanced race but spiritually immature and still in the grips of the denial of something above my intellect then I would certainly mess with the ability of the "sensitivity" of certain people through channeled messages, to do what "I" think is right for them.

The way I see it, when a channeled message gives you facts, figures and dates with certainty, then it is not coming from the light of love. When that message comes in with an eternal feeling of love and inner strength yet gives no indication of time or the need of the necessity of actions, then I would say that is from the place where we should be headed.

I too wrestle with the idea that the moon isn't so much "fake" and it is "really something else". We have little implanted thoughts from things like the Death Star from the Star Wars movies running around our heads, maybe a little seed planted to induce fear if that truth ever became fact, who really knows?

One aspect of common sense in regards of the moon not being a planetary moon is the sheer bloody size of it. No other planets seem to have a moon with that kind of ratio to the planet they orbit.

I can't bring myself to categorically state who put it there, or if the same beings that built it are the ones using it. It could be a lookout post built billions of years ago and long deserted only to be utilized by another race or races that came much later.

But if these "dragonians" are the ones conducting the state of the negativity on earth then the last thing we should do is fear them. Obviously we frighten them or they would absolutely have no reason at all to hide from us if they were a real threat to us. Maybe this is where trickery comes into play, like standing up to a bear, ok maybe not a bear ..lol but making yourself appear far bigger and braver than you actually are to hide the fact that your shitting yourself underneath the mask.

This leads me into the ancient drawings of ET races that might have came to earth having the heads of the animals we consider holy or represent strength in our minds. Kind of like the dudes from Stargate with the headdresses of snakes and birds, how else could a primitive people react to someone wearing that, "they must be our gods or gods nonetheless, lets obey them".

The nice part about your statement is that if the real truth of the right brain explanation of certainty is the actual truth, then the left brained facts were never needed and you could be 100% right.

Like I said, its a bloody tightrope and we need to tread very carefully.

goodness me detailed reply! :D i argee with the channeling part of things, u speak alot of sense. i feel when it comes to truth its different for each of us, some may need to to go the moon to believe others will just believe with out any questioning. my experiences av given me to my conclusion. thenk u 4 ur input.:)

[branjo]

I watched a video last night of the Secrets Conference 2008 and the hyperdimensional aspect of Pres Obama. I have to say it was quite enlightening, I know there are a lot of people who believe he is the anti christ n all but that has a lot ot do with religious dogmas and closed minded approaches and the "F" word.

Hoagland was the presenter of the part I saw, and I will be scouring the net for the other speakers at the conference.

He is of the belief too that the moon was indeed put in place by a benevolent race loooong ago as we have been talking about, its purpose was to balance the "wobble" of the planet and protect us, so that life would be allowed to flourish. Again there are those that think it is the giant lock on the door of the "prison planet" which my only response would be a very well placed respectful reply of "bullshit" :), where they see prison I see green house, where they see prevention I see protection.

With a negative mind an open field could be perceived as a prison so I lend no time or energy to fear mongering as it serves absolutely no purpose to my existence.

Anyhoo, he made a startling statement that the moon may have served its purpose and after the 2012 event will no longer be needed, that it could finally fly off :eek: and end up getting swallowed by the sun. It is getting further and further and the Gravity of the earth is getting lower and lower with a frequency that is getting increasingly faster.

There are many people in research of the ancient civilizations and ironically these are the people that have most to say about the future. I liked Tsarions views but I feel there is too much emphasis on the Masonic symbolism around us, not that it isn't applicable but because it brings out the negative in people very quickly, and the truth shouldn't do that, it should set you free not give you another thing to escape from.

I think if you haven't checked out the explanations of the Mayan Calendar by Ian Xel Lungold you would really enjoy it, he has some very interesting things to say about the event that is almost on us. Not a doomsayer by any means, just a perspective that gets over looked and replaced like i said before by the need for some people to have a Stephen king ending...lol instead of a positive one.

I totally respect your information and confidence in your approach, and through our own experiences and communication the world will rapidly unite and the divisions between light and dark will become overwhelmingly apparent. I have no doubt everyone will get exactly what they need from the passing of the dark rift. Whether that be a world of military controlled permissions by the nwo, or the Eden the planet once was that can exist in the slightest deviation in the timeline.

The Dimensional aspects of reality or logos is far beyond any of our comprehension right now but I would have a guess and say there is only a hairs breadth that separates them.

Maybe the shift will be an answer not only for some peoples prayers but an answer to others nightmares. If this is totally wrong and nothing happens then we will have lost nothing, but if this information is right then there will everything to gain. So as your sig states we better start to raise our vibration from either negative or neutral to as positive as we can be. There is no room for error and no place for excuses.

If we all have to die to ascend to another better "world", not some floaty cloudy environment then the dastardly plans of the nwo will have been for our own good.

If the Universe needs us to ascend then it will be through something we can accept, and we all have or must accept the death of the body, for we already know it to be inevitable. So after that inevitable process we all are open to anything, it is an event we are prepared for and one we hope won't be the end of us.

So if I and my loved ones have to die to ascend then when the Universe presents the environment for it, maybe like a 10 mile high tidal wave or immense radiation that scorches the earth like a blow torch, I will advise anyone not to go under ground in fear but to stand strong and accept the path that has been put in front of you with courage and faith that you have much more purpose than just the human form, you are eternal and nothing and no one can stop you.

As you can see I like this subject because of the newness and positive vibration it has, its good to be able to just say what we are feeling without the fear of someone saying anything that could ruin it, its impossible to fight the divine plan, it is in your best interests to just enjoy the ride for as long as you find yourself on it. There are many roads that lead to love and wisdom, as long as that is our destination it doesn't matter which one we take.

Namaste ♥

[lightblessins]

I watched a video last night of the Secrets Conference 2008 and the hyperdimensional aspect of Pres Obama. I have to say it was quite enlightening, I know there are a lot of people who believe he is the anti christ n all but that has a lot ot do with religious dogmas and closed minded approaches and the "F" word.

Hoagland was the presenter of the part I saw, and I will be scouring the net for the other speakers at the conference.

He is of the belief too that the moon was indeed put in place by a benevolent race loooong ago as we have been talking about, its purpose was to balance the "wobble" of the planet and protect us, so that life would be allowed to flourish. Again there are those that think it is the giant lock on the door of the "prison planet" which my only response would be a very well placed respectful reply of "bullshit" :), where they see prison I see green house, where they see prevention I see protection.

With a negative mind an open field could be perceived as a prison so I lend no time or energy to fear mongering as it serves absolutely no purpose to my existence.

Anyhoo, he made a startling statement that the moon may have served its purpose and after the 2012 event will no longer be needed, that it could finally fly off :eek: and end up getting swallowed by the sun. It is getting further and further and the Gravity of the earth is getting lower and lower with a frequency that is getting increasingly faster.

There are many people in research of the ancient civilizations and ironically these are the people that have most to say about the future. I liked Tsarions views but I feel there is too much emphasis on the Masonic symbolism around us, not that it isn't applicable but because it brings out the negative in people very quickly, and the truth shouldn't do that, it should set you free not give you another thing to escape from.

I think if you haven't checked out the explanations of the Mayan Calendar by Ian Xel Lungold you would really enjoy it, he has some very interesting things to say about the event that is almost on us. Not a doomsayer by any means, just a perspective that gets over looked and replaced like i said before by the need for some people to have a Stephen king ending...lol instead of a positive one.

I totally respect your information and confidence in your approach, and through our own experiences and communication the world will rapidly unite and the divisions between light and dark will become overwhelmingly apparent. I have no doubt everyone will get exactly what they need from the passing of the dark rift. Whether that be a world of military controlled permissions by the nwo, or the Eden the planet once was that can exist in the slightest deviation in the timeline.

The Dimensional aspects of reality or logos is far beyond any of our comprehension right now but I would have a guess and say there is only a hairs breadth that separates them.

Maybe the shift will be an answer not only for some peoples prayers but an answer to others nightmares. If this is totally wrong and nothing happens then we will have lost nothing, but if this information is right then there will everything to gain. So as your sig states we better start to raise our vibration from either negative or neutral to as positive as we can be. There is no room for error and no place for excuses.

If we all have to die to ascend to another better "world", not some floaty cloudy environment then the dastardly plans of the nwo will have been for our own good.

If the Universe needs us to ascend then it will be through something we can accept, and we all have or must accept the death of the body, for we already know it to be inevitable. So after that inevitable process we all are open to anything, it is an event we are prepared for and one we hope won't be the end of us.

So if I and my loved ones have to die to ascend then when the Universe presents the environment for it, maybe like a 10 mile high tidal wave or immense radiation that scorches the earth like a blow torch, I will advise anyone not to go under ground in fear but to stand strong and accept the path that has been put in front of you with courage and faith that you have much more purpose than just the human form, you are eternal and nothing and no one can stop you.

As you can see I like this subject because of the newness and positive vibration it has, its good to be able to just say what we are feeling without the fear of someone saying anything that could ruin it, its impossible to fight the divine plan, it is in your best interests to just enjoy the ride for as long as you find yourself on it. There are many roads that lead to love and wisdom, as long as that is our destination it doesn't matter which one we take.

Namaste ♥

ty 4 ur words. i would av to disagree in the saying the beings who brought the moon here r benevolent, in fact i would say the complete oppisite, it makes me wonder y Hoagland would say that, tho if he was protecting b.o in any way it would soon all make sense. the wooble u describe might be the when eearth was knocked off its axis and so its orbit was changed tho this was put right on earth, without any help from any1 on the moon. about ascension, its true the doomsday effect which so many believe is rubbish, maybe its just when u say to people the end is comin or an end is coming they panic in fear when all its is, is wakin into a new day much like we all do every 24hrs. also about ascension the main question for me is, will every1 ascend, at the mo i dont think so. n dont worry about diein to ascend, as our asension is a physical 1, remember earth is ascendin to n shes not blowing up for it, simply just passin on thru. ty keep posting :)

[shenoma]

In Anne Rice's book called Queen of the Damn, the Twins people history goes back to the time Before The Moon. I believe the book is mainly on point, with a lot of it's information about the spirit world, to which Rice uses to make up her own history how the vampires came in to being.

[branjo]

Remember you have to look at the common sense of it, It would take an incredible amount of intelligence and sheer technological brilliance to do such a thing as construct the moon if it is a huge mechanical device, and place it into the orbit of a world, wait thousands to millions of years until they are on the brink of evolution and come down and be an asshole about it. I am not saying its an impossibility im just saying its only one possibility.

Even in our world there are people that love to build and those who love to wreck shit, the builders out weigh the wreckers 10,000 to 1, probably even more. Why would any other race be any different, you can't fear an entire planet of beings cause you met one asshole from it who did you wrong some way. Just the same as you can't take someone's word as fact when they tell you to hate another person without them doing anything to you first.

I gave the tidal wave as a highest scale scenario of impending doom as I could, I do not believe that will be the case in any way shape or form, the only thing I can personally conceive of happening is that the planet will rotate in the opposite direction, and it won't come in a sharp stop like a bus putting on the brakes and everyone going flying to the front.

The world is slowing its rotation and speeding up its own vibration, Earth (which we are connected to by everything atomic that we are) will take very good care of itself, it also will evolve and there doesn't need to be a dimensional split to do this. How? I have no idea but the possibilities are very exciting because of the speeding up from all consciousness.

Ascension, I think will leave no one out, it might not be about taking anyone away to anywhere else, it could simply be about "progression". 99.999% of the positive souls in this would are still not ready to ascend into the realm of light n such that we really can't explain, if we think we are worthy of such a thing that is the ego talking, if we let that decide for us then we obviously think "we" should all be on that boat, so best not assume it at all I think.

However there is evidence of a real benefit for those that remain, they won't remain empty handed, our DNA is already reporting a change, more codons are switching on for more and more people, the human race and possibly every life form on this planet is being slowly given the ability to beat every disease on the planet, whether biological or chemical, almost like it is wiping the slate clean of the negative and it is the one who will have to go back to square one and re-evolve all over again, not the positive.

The drops in the deaths from AIDS and other deadly diseases is not being reported because the PTB have gotten used to the fear it produces in people and they need that control to continue, they will continue to report the opposite until the truth means more to them than the lie. Same as Global warming, they aren't going to let go of that one even though the rest of the planets are heating up too yet no one is on them pumping aerosols causing it.

The last thing you should do is walk into the unknown with fear on your mind, or even distrust without personal proof, so look at that which scares you most of all and overcome that now. If we let it linger we will paint the future with that brush and it will be ultimately our own doing.

The ancient writings of this event tell us that we will move from mortal to immortal in the twinkling of an eye, this still doesn't mean you have to die. This could be from the thought that you can die to the knowledge that you can't.

The twinkling of an eye isn't the blink of an eye, its reporting something much faster connected with light, like "thought". How fast can a thought be?
Could the realization of the eternal nature of the divine be the thing that is proved to the heart of every living thing? after that knowledge is felt for the first time, there wouldn't even be a need to protect life, it would simply be just to live it, would be enough, and live it without fear.

Fear is how the negativity defines its existence whether you believe in the Satanic or Reptilian overlords, they all need fear to feel they matter, and they will go to where they find it most.

I would send a message to anyone I meet that "you don't have to worry about a thing, because one way or another everything will be ok". For this reason the people that are happy in their life who don't know about the things we talk about in this forum, don't need to know.
The negativity and fear we could give them will spoil the life that they have.

Now, if you see someone in pain from the "rat wheel" then you are duty bound to tell them why they feel so helpless and by all means give them a little something to feel anger so they may change for the better, but never hand them fear because that will do them no good and no favours (on average)

When I came to this forum it was through anger, revenge and if I am honest panic and fear, no one came here who was cool with the world.
We came here out of the fear that some other people gave us through half truths and misinformation "accidentally" but still given along with a big dollop of fear. Without realizing that they are doing the job of those they think they are fighting yet they do a better job of getting it out there through rumours.

[lightblessins]

Remember you have to look at the common sense of it, It would take an incredible amount of intelligence and sheer technological brilliance to do such a thing as construct the moon if it is a huge mechanical device, and place it into the orbit of a world, wait thousands to millions of years until they are on the brink of evolution and come down and be an asshole about it. I am not saying its an impossibility im just saying its only one possibility.

Even in our world there are people that love to build and those who love to wreck shit, the builders out weigh the wreckers 10,000 to 1, probably even more. Why would any other race be any different, you can't fear an entire planet of beings cause you met one asshole from it who did you wrong some way. Just the same as you can't take someone's word as fact when they tell you to hate another person without them doing anything to you first.

I gave the tidal wave as a highest scale scenario of impending doom as I could, I do not believe that will be the case in any way shape or form, the only thing I can personally conceive of happening is that the planet will rotate in the opposite direction, and it won't come in a sharp stop like a bus putting on the brakes and everyone going flying to the front.

The world is slowing its rotation and speeding up its own vibration, Earth (which we are connected to by everything atomic that we are) will take very good care of itself, it also will evolve and there doesn't need to be a dimensional split to do this. How? I have no idea but the possibilities are very exciting because of the speeding up from all consciousness.

Ascension, I think will leave no one out, it might not be about taking anyone away to anywhere else, it could simply be about "progression". 99.999% of the positive souls in this would are still not ready to ascend into the realm of light n such that we really can't explain, if we think we are worthy of such a thing that is the ego talking, if we let that decide for us then we obviously think "we" should all be on that boat, so best not assume it at all I think.

However there is evidence of a real benefit for those that remain, they won't remain empty handed, our DNA is already reporting a change, more codons are switching on for more and more people, the human race and possibly every life form on this planet is being slowly given the ability to beat every disease on the planet, whether biological or chemical, almost like it is wiping the slate clean of the negative and it is the one who will have to go back to square one and re-evolve all over again, not the positive.

The drops in the deaths from AIDS and other deadly diseases is not being reported because the PTB have gotten used to the fear it produces in people and they need that control to continue, they will continue to report the opposite until the truth means more to them than the lie. Same as Global warming, they aren't going to let go of that one even though the rest of the planets are heating up too yet no one is on them pumping aerosols causing it.

The last thing you should do is walk into the unknown with fear on your mind, or even distrust without personal proof, so look at that which scares you most of all and overcome that now. If we let it linger we will paint the future with that brush and it will be ultimately our own doing.

The ancient writings of this event tell us that we will move from mortal to immortal in the twinkling of an eye, this still doesn't mean you have to die. This could be from the thought that you can die to the knowledge that you can't.

The twinkling of an eye isn't the blink of an eye, its reporting something much faster connected with light, like "thought". How fast can a thought be?
Could the realization of the eternal nature of the divine be the thing that is proved to the heart of every living thing? after that knowledge is felt for the first time, there wouldn't even be a need to protect life, it would simply be just to live it, would be enough, and live it without fear.

Fear is how the negativity defines its existence whether you believe in the Satanic or Reptilian overlords, they all need fear to feel they matter, and they will go to where they find it most.

I would send a message to anyone I meet that "you don't have to worry about a thing, because one way or another everything will be ok". For this reason the people that are happy in their life who don't know about the things we talk about in this forum, don't need to know.
The negativity and fear we could give them will spoil the life that they have.

Now, if you see someone in pain from the "rat wheel" then you are duty bound to tell them why they feel so helpless and by all means give them a little something to feel anger so they may change for the better, but never hand them fear because that will do them no good and no favours (on average)

When I came to this forum it was through anger, revenge and if I am honest panic and fear, no one came here who was cool with the world.
We came here out of the fear that some other people gave us through half truths and misinformation "accidentally" but still given along with a big dollop of fear. Without realizing that they are doing the job of those they think they are fighting yet they do a better job of getting it out there through rumours.

i dont believe the moon was ont completly constructed, i think it was hallowed out and engineered from an asteroid.the ones who did so r a very dominating race and would quite happy wait millions of yrs to achieve their mission in this hour. and what the finally is i can only guess at but some of these out comes could effect the whole cosmic order. gotta lve fear, gr8 teach i know i still av some. im still not sure bout every1 ascending. some know about ascendion and still dont want to ascend but keep their power n control as it is. :)

[skunksmash]

i see a few ''haters'' floating in this thread..........


piss off...:mad:, this is a forum for ppl to express their differing views & opinions without scared sheep running round trying to dishearten ppl from being open..


lightblessins.... great thread, im not sure if you have been ''abducted'' or not, but im more than willing to hear your view on things...


the ''moon base'' idea is very interesting to me, there is a lot of evidence pointing to some form of machinery below the surface, & even more evidence of continued activity up there in the past (i.e. ruins)

the idea it was dragged here & originally 1 of 2 moons, is a little hard to grasp, but AMAZING if true....


what is everyone's view on this......
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8k3YOamdY)
now these shapes & markings cant be naturally occurring..??, it said to be a craft that crashed, but i think it looks more like a toppled monument..??






:)SK

[lightblessins]

In Anne Rice's book called Queen of the Damn, the Twins people history goes back to the time Before The Moon. I believe the book is mainly on point, with a lot of it's information about the spirit world, to which Rice uses to make up her own history how the vampires came in to being.

Dracula from draconain, draconains drink human body fluids, and so it begins. :)

[lightblessins]

i see a few ''haters'' floating in this thread..........


piss off...:mad:, this is a forum for ppl to express their differing views & opinions without scared sheep running round trying to dishearten ppl from being open..


lightblessins.... great thread, im not sure if you have been ''abducted'' or not, but im more than willing to hear your view on things...


the ''moon base'' idea is very interesting to me, there is a lot of evidence pointing to some form of machinery below the surface, & even more evidence of continued activity up there in the past (i.e. ruins)

the idea it was dragged here & originally 1 of 2 moons, is a little hard to grasp, but AMAZING if true....


what is everyone's view on this......
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8k3YOamdY)
now these shapes & markings cant be naturally occurring..??, it said to be a craft that crashed, but i think it looks more like a toppled monument..??






:)SK

ty shunk man! no worries about being abducted by arcturians, its all a free willy thing with them. one of the biggest peices of evidence that proves the reall truth behind the moon is its hallow center, the massive creator in its drak side, what could of caused this naturally within space? an extra super hot asteroid moving at 1 mile an hour!? come on poeple get real! nothing naturally in space could of caused this, an impact that big would of completly blown the whole moon up. :)

[diky]

i see a few ''haters'' floating in this thread..........


piss off...:mad:, this is a forum for ppl to express their differing views & opinions without scared sheep running round trying to dishearten ppl from being open..


lightblessins.... great thread, im not sure if you have been ''abducted'' or not, but im more than willing to hear your view on things...


the ''moon base'' idea is very interesting to me, there is a lot of evidence pointing to some form of machinery below the surface, & even more evidence of continued activity up there in the past (i.e. ruins)

the idea it was dragged here & originally 1 of 2 moons, is a little hard to grasp, but AMAZING if true....


what is everyone's view on this......
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8k3YOamdY)
now these shapes & markings cant be naturally occurring..??, it said to be a craft that crashed, but i think it looks more like a toppled monument..??






:)SK

who are the scared sheep?

[skunksmash]

who are the scared sheep ?

now what relevance does that have to the continuation of the subject matter in the OP..?? NONE!!, it was a ''generalization'' of ppl who chuck down the shutters as soon as a member claims to have ''first hand'' info..

so stop trying to create a flame war & either contribute, or go away..... its that simple.




:)SK

[shenoma]

Well, in the book there is an evil spirit that likes the feel of blood, and follows them to Egypt. When it tries to kill the king and queen and ends up merge with them, but the queen is the source. The Twins asked where is the evil spirit and they answer it is no longer what it was.

That could be like the beings that created the moon for Earth. Over the times that have passed they have changed and no longer what they started out being. They are something completely different.

I feel Earth and Mars where moons themselves, when the giant planet was still around, where it's remains are still around Mars.

Dracula from draconain, draconains drink human body fluids, and so it begins. :)

[lightblessins]

Well, in the book there is an evil spirit that likes the feel of blood, and follows them to Egypt. When it tries to kill the king and queen and ends up merge with them, but the queen is the source. The Twins asked where is the evil spirit and they answer it is no longer what it was.

That could be like the beings that created the moon for Earth. Over the times that have passed they have changed and no longer what they started out being. They are something completely different.

I feel Earth and Mars where moons themselves, when the giant planet was still around, where it's remains are still around Mars.

is this book fact or fiction, i know the beings that hallowed out the moon,moved it here and our still using it for goodness knows what, have not change their nature tho their agenda might of changed but only slightly. whats this about a giant planet?:)

[diky]

now what relevance does that have to the continuation of the subject matter in the OP..?? NONE!!, it was a ''generalization'' of ppl who chuck down the shutters as soon as a member claims to have ''first hand'' info..

so stop trying to create a flame war & either contribute, or go away..... its that simple.




:)SK

how am i starting a flame war?

my contribution is that i think its misleading and unhelpful to decalre that you know something for a fact without some pretty decent evidence

am i only allowed to post if i post some back slapping or some kind of fanciful story?

[shenoma]

The first part is from Anne Rice's Queen of the Damn, about the Twins and how the birth of the vampires came into being. And the other, about what some people call Tiamet planet that was destroyed millions of years ago I got from my own recall. I believe it was twice the size of Jupiter and had two many moons and/or huge space stations around it.

is this book fact or fiction, i know the beings that hallowed out the moon,moved it here and our still using it for goodness knows what, have not change their nature tho their agenda might of changed but only slightly. whats this about a giant planet?:)

[fekdemasons]

Guys,

Have none of you seen the "disclosure project ?"

Google it .

Filmed at the national press club around the time of 911. Obviously it faded from the news and recieved little coverage soon after.

There are several x military / x nasa employees telling what they know.

Including a retired US army photographic expert who was assigned with max security to examine photgraphs from the dark side of the moon. (Not the floyd album !)

I wont bore you all any longer suffice to say he claimed there were bases / ruins on the exposures ..

As usual the evidence was seized and diverted before he could make copies.

Watch the film and decide for yourself if he's on the level.

[branjo]

The Disclosure Project is quite the must see, but we have to understand, that the fear of Aliens races "IS" the conspiracy, not the Alien race themselves. The fear of Grey's, Reptilian or Nordic ET's is serving a purpose for someone very much human.

There are very few avenues to pursue in an honest just way that benefits us as a species.
What the Disclosure project talks of is the existence of many different races not just 3 or 4. None of them come with evil intentions and our government know this. So how do our governments keep us from knowing what these obviously benevolent races know?

They make them out to be enemies of us so that even if their existence becomes proven fact, they still have an element of control over us, they think we will automatically look to them to protect us, this is their mindset, "Make the people need us, or else we are not needed".

Never ever brush aside common sense, it is the biggest scientific tool we have. At grass roots level nothing is so complicated that the layman cannot understand it, whether Physics or Biology there is always an example that has been staring you in the face your entire lives. Sacred Geometry is in the life of a flower, a tree even within and without ourselves. You don't have to be a 33rd degree Mason to know the truth, you don't have to have a PHD after your name to be considered intelligent.

Both those are test systems of conformity and proof that if a person conforms to anything for something so pointless as to have superiority over another human being or any life for that matter, then they are agreeing to that exact thing, that they are less than the person they perceive is above them.

Never make enemies because someone else told you they were your enemy, hasn't the knowledge of the past wars been enough proof of that, always ask the question, "who stands to gain from it?"

At every turn the movement of peace meets a new threat and we look for someone to blame or praise every time. All conflict is pre-decided and that goes double for the truth movement. Do you think that the ptb don't sit around and consider what they would do when the knowledge of what they have done in the past comes into the light of day? I would say they think about nothing else.

I think they had planned to do all manner of things to subvert the consciousness awakening including trying to set it back by making our friends look like our enemies and thus to them we would have a common enemy and we might set aside the evidence of what they have done for fear of the extinction of us all.

I am so sorry to you guys because I tend to rabbit on quite a bit, and I don't know why I write huge posts but if we all have a purpose on this earth, mine is just to tell you that you never had a need to freak out about anything or have an immediate distrust of things we don't or can't possible know yet. Everything has reason to it and you have to trust the fact that you are here in these times for a reason, not one person on this globe right now is here by mistake, you all choose this time to incarnate here. Some will be here to spread fear and some will spread love, you are going to have to decide which are you, there is no fence and no "wait and see".

If its peace we want with all nations and all worlds then we have to view them with that same peace. There is no middle ground, we cannot shake with one hand and hold a gun in the other. We have to lay it all on the line, and never see it as a weakness, that's our greatest strength and we should be damn well proud of that. If you are willing to let the distrust of others cloud your judgment then you will without a doubt in my mind, attract that kind of distrust upon yourself.

[lightblessins]

how am i starting a flame war?

my contribution is that i think its misleading and unhelpful to decalre that you know something for a fact without some pretty decent evidence

am i only allowed to post if i post some back slapping or some kind of fanciful story?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaSEMykvTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqpeHfRS7xo

Dont Get A Head, Get A Hat!
:D

[lightblessins]

The Disclosure Project is quite the must see, but we have to understand, that the fear of Aliens races "IS" the conspiracy, not the Alien race themselves. The fear of Grey's, Reptilian or Nordic ET's is serving a purpose for someone very much human.

There are very few avenues to pursue in an honest just way that benefits us as a species.
What the Disclosure project talks of is the existence of many different races not just 3 or 4. None of them come with evil intentions and our government know this. So how do our governments keep us from knowing what these obviously benevolent races know?

They make them out to be enemies of us so that even if their existence becomes proven fact, they still have an element of control over us, they think we will automatically look to them to protect us, this is their mindset, "Make the people need us, or else we are not needed".

Never ever brush aside common sense, it is the biggest scientific tool we have. At grass roots level nothing is so complicated that the layman cannot understand it, whether Physics or Biology there is always an example that has been staring you in the face your entire lives. Sacred Geometry is in the life of a flower, a tree even within and without ourselves. You don't have to be a 33rd degree Mason to know the truth, you don't have to have a PHD after your name to be considered intelligent.

Both those are test systems of conformity and proof that if a person conforms to anything for something so pointless as to have superiority over another human being or any life for that matter, then they are agreeing to that exact thing, that they are less than the person they perceive is above them.

Never make enemies because someone else told you they were your enemy, hasn't the knowledge of the past wars been enough proof of that, always ask the question, "who stands to gain from it?"

At every turn the movement of peace meets a new threat and we look for someone to blame or praise every time. All conflict is pre-decided and that goes double for the truth movement. Do you think that the ptb don't sit around and consider what they would do when the knowledge of what they have done in the past comes into the light of day? I would say they think about nothing else.

I think they had planned to do all manner of things to subvert the consciousness awakening including trying to set it back by making our friends look like our enemies and thus to them we would have a common enemy and we might set aside the evidence of what they have done for fear of the extinction of us all.

I am so sorry to you guys because I tend to rabbit on quite a bit, and I don't know why I write huge posts but if we all have a purpose on this earth, mine is just to tell you that you never had a need to freak out about anything or have an immediate distrust of things we don't or can't possible know yet. Everything has reason to it and you have to trust the fact that you are here in these times for a reason, not one person on this globe right now is here by mistake, you all choose this time to incarnate here. Some will be here to spread fear and some will spread love, you are going to have to decide which are you, there is no fence and no "wait and see".

If its peace we want with all nations and all worlds then we have to view them with that same peace. There is no middle ground, we cannot shake with one hand and hold a gun in the other. We have to lay it all on the line, and never see it as a weakness, that's our greatest strength and we should be damn well proud of that. If you are willing to let the distrust of others cloud your judgment then you will without a doubt in my mind, attract that kind of distrust upon yourself.

i have to disagree that all e.ts here av no evil intentions, ive had some really painfull,fearful, controlling and freedom breakin experiences with some so trust me, there r some real nasty ones here. tho i dont mind that, some of my gr8est lesson av been from there hands, like i said b4 i love to be scared and come face to face with them trying to impose their fear on me it makes me stronger, prehaps thats y i aint be bothered for some time. the disclosure project is an interestin idea but it seems like it got shut down quite quick, i also think there is alot of disinfo in there to. :)

[branjo]

You say you have no fear of them but you say they have evil intentions of dominating us, that sounds like fear to me in all honesty.

The human mind is very easy to trick, I fully believe you believe it. I have also experimented with a number of hallucinogens and know that what we see and feel can be something completely abstract from what it really is.

That's not meant to sound like i'm saying its all in your head, im saying what we don't understand at face value the mind will derive the next best thing to try and explain it.

Are all humans evil? certainly not, Are their more good than evil? absolutely. Do you think other ET's if just as advanced as us are not affected by this polarity?
Will you be "racists" and that's exactly what it is "racism" to say all beings that we may encounter are just like the entire race they represent?

Has an Iraqi that has lost their entire family in a war imposed on them by the likes of Bush, justified in hating you or me without asking themselves if we even agree with the war in the first place?

If they are a unified race of ET's then they have reached a natural state of unity and therefore they are under the knowledge that all is one and that will be their primary objective.

If they are a divided race or even a militarily unified race with bad intentions then they must have those in it that don't agree with what is being done or no force would be needed to control them.

Either way by your lack of understanding of the nature of life itself you cannot hope to give anyone advice on who they are or why they are here.

Are you also saying that the spread of the disclosure project got shut down quite quickly because it was false or that it was faced with the same blanket of control that we deal with in our own daily lives?

You seem to be clinging to the fact that your truth is the truth for us all, it may be for you , but only you. You don't like them, fair enough. Its no different than someone having hatred for black people because some black guy robbed you at an ATM and for me to just trust you that all black people are the same, we have been down that road and we know how it turns out. What you are saying is absolutely no different, you just changed the faces and situation but its still deep rooted racism, and we know what drives racism don't we?....fear.

[lightblessins]

You say you have no fear of them but you say they have evil intentions of dominating us, that sounds like fear to me in all honesty.

The human mind is very easy to trick, I fully believe you believe it. I have also experimented with a number of hallucinogens and know that what we see and feel can be something completely abstract from what it really is.

That's not meant to sound like i'm saying its all in your head, im saying what we don't understand at face value the mind will derive the next best thing to try and explain it.

Are all humans evil? certainly not, Are their more good than evil? absolutely. Do you think other ET's if just as advanced as us are not affected by this polarity?
Will you be "racists" and that's exactly what it is "racism" to say all beings that we may encounter are just like the entire race they represent?

Has an Iraqi that has lost their entire family in a war imposed on them by the likes of Bush, justified in hating you or me without asking themselves if we even agree with the war in the first place?

If they are a unified race of ET's then they have reached a natural state of unity and therefore they are under the knowledge that all is one and that will be their primary objective.

If they are a divided race or even a militarily unified race with bad intentions then they must have those in it that don't agree with what is being done or no force would be needed to control them.

Either way by your lack of understanding of the nature of life itself you cannot hope to give anyone advice on who they are or why they are here.

Are you also saying that the spread of the disclosure project got shut down quite quickly because it was false or that it was faced with the same blanket of control that we deal with in our own daily lives?

You seem to be clinging to the fact that your truth is the truth for us all, it may be for you , but only you. You don't like them, fair enough. Its no different than someone having hatred for black people because some black guy robbed you at an ATM and for me to just trust you that all black people are the same, we have been down that road and we know how it turns out. What you are saying is absolutely no different, you just changed the faces and situation but its still deep rooted racism, and we know what drives racism don't we?....fear.

no i dont fear them nor do i think they r all evil, even if that exists, i cant change the way a race of e.t's act towards me and nor would i want to they r who they r n do what they must, and thats fine with me. truth is different for us all whilst some is the same for us all. im no racist ty to who ever or what ever is nasty to me. :)

[branjo]

I did honestly try my best to remain openminded

ty 4 ur words. i would av to disagree in the saying the beings who brought the moon here r benevolent, in fact i would say the complete oppisite, it makes me wonder y Hoagland would say that, tho if he was protecting b.o in any way it would soon all make sense. the wooble u describe might be the when eearth was knocked off its axis and so its orbit was changed tho this was put right on earth, without any help from any1 on the moon. about ascension, its true the doomsday effect which so many believe is rubbish, maybe its just when u say to people the end is comin or an end is coming they panic in fear when all its is, is wakin into a new day much like we all do every 24hrs. also about ascension the main question for me is, will every1 ascend, at the mo i dont think so. n dont worry about diein to ascend, as our asension is a physical 1, remember earth is ascendin to n shes not blowing up for it, simply just passin on thru. ty keep posting :)

Well what do you think the "complete opposite" of Benevolent means?

I am sorry my friend but you have completely lost me. I think you may be clinging to something that isn't real. I don't mean the evidence pointing us to the moon, I mean your knowledge of anything ET. I do not like saying that but I am sorry I do not believe your speaking from experience any longer.

[lightblessins]

I did honestly try my best to remain openminded



Well what do you think the "complete opposite" of Benevolent means?

I am sorry my friend but you have completely lost me. I think you may be clinging to something that isn't real. I don't mean the evidence pointing us to the moon, I mean your knowledge of anything ET. I do not like saying that but I am sorry I do not believe your speaking from experience any longer.

to me the complete opposite of benevolent in terms of e.t races means to completely dominate,controll,surpress and cause continual heart ache and pain upon who ever they wish. if u dont believe me thats fine most dont and neither do i care,until u experience it ur self then u av nothing to compare it to, you dont av to write on my threads. i know what i av experienced and the knowledge it has given me. judge me if u wish, but trust me the day ur lieing in bed see a little grey turn up in ur room who then completely paralyzes u,electrocutes all ur nerve cells, and frys all ur chakra points, leaving u dazzled,spaced out and with extreme head pains for wks then u might be think differently that all e.t races here r benevolent. ive had many contacts with benevolent races, and trust me they r compleltly different!by the way i av no reason to lie, im here to ascend and help others and guess what u cant do that by lieing! truth truth truth, i would prefer to speak the truth and piss every1 in the world off rather then make up lies and get poeple into a false sense of reality. theres to much of that already. ty 4 ur support. :)

[whiteshadow]

to me the complete opposite of benevolent in terms of e.t races means to completely dominate,controll,surpress and cause continual heart ache and pain upon who ever they wish. if u dont believe me thats fine most dont and neither do i care,until u experience it ur self then u av nothing to compare it to, you dont av to write on my threads. i know what i av experienced and the knowledge it has given me. judge me if u wish, but trust me the day ur lieing in bed see a little grey turn up in ur room who then completely paralyzes u,electrocutes all ur nerve cells, and frys all ur chakra points, leaving u dazzled,spaced out and with extreme head pains for wks then u might be think differently that all e.t races here r benevolent. ive had many contacts with benevolent races, and trust me they r compleltly different!by the way i av no reason to lie, im here to ascend and help others and guess what u cant do that by lieing! truth truth truth, i would prefer to speak the truth and piss every1 in the world off rather then make up lies and get poeple into a false sense of reality. theres to much of that already. ty 4 ur support. :)

You are becoming more subjective - which is good.
With the greatest of respect I want to accept what you are saying, but this is the problem with forums. You said earlier about 'knowing for a fact' but how could you ever convey that knowledge and experience so that others 'know'? ... You can't!

When you state something like 'there are bases on the moon' and 'the arcturians told me so', people are going to jump on that and ask you to provide evidence, as I did earlier. But then I thought, how could you ever provide evidence, short of building a spaceship and taking people on a tour?

All you can do is state your experience from a subjective point of view.
If you took the line of saying 'these are my experiences' instead of 'this is fact' then it would have more credibility, despite it's subjective nature.

Please continue with your experiences as they are fascinating reading. I would genuinely like to know more about the grey turning up in your room and paralysing you. Thx :)

[lightblessins]

You are becoming more subjective - which is good.
With the greatest of respect I want to accept what you are saying, but this is the problem with forums. You said earlier about 'knowing for a fact' but how could you ever convey that knowledge and experience so that others 'know'? ... You can't!

When you state something like 'there are bases on the moon' and 'the arcturians told me so', people are going to jump on that and ask you to provide evidence, as I did earlier. But then I thought, how could you ever provide evidence, short of building a spaceship and taking people on a tour?

All you can do is state your experience from a subjective point of view.
If you took the line of saying 'these are my experiences' instead of 'this is fact' then it would have more credibility, despite it's subjective nature.

Please continue with your experiences as they are fascinating reading. I would genuinely like to know more about the grey turning up in your room and paralysing you. Thx :)


i know what u mean, but i cant be arsed fanny footy around saying i believe this, u believe that, coz at the end of the day its true just coz peps dont believe it doesnt me it doesnt exist, the world being flat not round springs to mind. so when i know something is true as a fact, not something ive only just learnt or realised but something i ve been researching into for yrs, then i will say it as a fact.

P.S Tour bus leaving in 12hrs, sites include moon bases, mars pryamids and draconian venus domes. £1.55 per ticket,non refundable. :p

[diky]

You are becoming more subjective - which is good.
With the greatest of respect I want to accept what you are saying, but this is the problem with forums. You said earlier about 'knowing for a fact' but how could you ever convey that knowledge and experience so that others 'know'? ... You can't!

When you state something like 'there are bases on the moon' and 'the arcturians told me so', people are going to jump on that and ask you to provide evidence, as I did earlier. But then I thought, how could you ever provide evidence, short of building a spaceship and taking people on a tour?

All you can do is state your experience from a subjective point of view.
If you took the line of saying 'these are my experiences' instead of 'this is fact' then it would have more credibility, despite it's subjective nature.

Please continue with your experiences as they are fascinating reading. I would genuinely like to know more about the grey turning up in your room and paralysing you. Thx :)

does anybody really think this is credible:


1, many others research and knowledge know of this.
2, my m8 johns moon vids
3, general common sense
4, arcturians have told me so


i know the whole back slapping positive thing is popular here but seriously stand back and read this thread and tell me you can take it seriously

it is clearly complete bollocks (IMHO) :)

[whiteshadow]

does anybody really think this is credible:

i know the whole back slapping positive thing is popular here but seriously stand back and read this thread and tell me you can take it seriously

it is clearly complete bollocks :)

yep it sounds like bollocks.
It is because it is a subjective view being presented as fact, which according to the OP is how they want to play it.
Credibility down plug hole unfortunately.

[lightblessins]

does anybody really think this is credible:



I know the whole back slapping positive thing is popular here but seriously stand back and read this thread and tell me you can take it seriously

it is clearly complete bollocks (imho) :)

dont write on this thread then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[relax]

does anybody really think this is credible:



i know the whole back slapping positive thing is popular here but seriously stand back and read this thread and tell me you can take it seriously

it is clearly complete bollocks (IMHO) :)

Yep same, really dislike the 'back slapping positive' attitude and the intolerance to any questioning, makes people look like real morons.

[cowboy10]

lightblessins

hi :) hopefully this can help you for the future

http://intepid.com/res/417.gif

[lightblessins]

lightblessins

hi :) hopefully this can help you for the future

http://intepid.com/res/417.gif

once u have expereince, out of body, dreams, sub conscious re-programming, accessing of past lifes, self dna en-coding, 5th dimensional n higher traveling, e.t contact, telepathical communcation, then maybe u might be able to tell the difference, i know the difference between whats a dream n what isnt ty.:)

[cowboy10]

any proof :D ?

[lightblessins]

any proof :D ?

how can proof that i had dream, had an out of body experience or traveled up thru the many dimensions, re-programmed my dna, remembered my past lifes along with other things and experiences ive had? how can u prove to me that u r who u r? GET REAL! NOW CAN WE PLZ GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaSEMykvTg

[branjo]

to me the complete opposite of benevolent in terms of e.t races means to completely dominate,controll,surpress and cause continual heart ache and pain upon who ever they wish. if u dont believe me thats fine most dont and neither do i care,until u experience it ur self then u av nothing to compare it to, you dont av to write on my threads. i know what i av experienced and the knowledge it has given me. judge me if u wish, but trust me the day ur lieing in bed see a little grey turn up in ur room who then completely paralyzes u,electrocutes all ur nerve cells, and frys all ur chakra points, leaving u dazzled,spaced out and with extreme head pains for wks then u might be think differently that all e.t races here r benevolent. ive had many contacts with benevolent races, and trust me they r compleltly different!by the way i av no reason to lie, im here to ascend and help others and guess what u cant do that by lieing! truth truth truth, i would prefer to speak the truth and piss every1 in the world off rather then make up lies and get poeple into a false sense of reality. theres to much of that already. ty 4 ur support. :)

No, Im sorry, you are on a band wagon, and I think you know it, by the way this is not "your" thread, you started it you have no authority in it so people have every right to say what ever in it. As others have already seen, it is the self serving ego that you thought was going to be returned.

I don't run around just discounting anyone's reports of ET encounters but when I see someone taking the guts of someone else's encounter and using it for themselves then I am going to say something. You start with saying "for a fact" and you know people will be all over that but you didn't think you would be challenged, I gave you every opportunity to be as forth coming as you wanted but you clung to the high ground and kept saying "I know this".

You say your here to Ascend, no your not, its clear you here as a tool to spread more disinformation and fear, you have no concept of the entire process of ascension, do you think ascension will come for anyone with any kind of hatred in their heart?, any kind of distrust?, anyone who is completely controlled by their own ego? We are all going to have to take our chances in 2012 or whatever it has to bring, not one person has anything solid to say because its an unwritten future, whether you believe in dimensional splits, cataclysm or ET's coming down on a white horse to save you. I can tell you one "fact" about it, no one knows how or what will happen, no one, and that includes you.

Listen to this guy, far more knowledgeable than any one here on the whole subject then listen to what he has to say about the Grey's. Something I have thought many many times before and something I hadn't considered when I, like everyone else was in the grips of the fear attached to them, considering the Greys were born on 1947 on the 33rd degree latitude should ring a few bells even before you hear this guy, 1 of 6 try listening to them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_vIpxvb2wg

[lightblessins]

No, Im sorry, you are on a band wagon, and I think you know it, by the way this is not "your" thread, you started it you have no authority in it so people have every right to say what ever in it. As others have already seen, it is the self serving ego that you thought was going to be returned.

I don't run around just discounting anyone's reports of ET encounters but when I see someone taking the guts of someone else's encounter and using it for themselves then I am going to say something. You start with saying "for a fact" and you know people will be all over that but you didn't think you would be challenged, I gave you every opportunity to be as forth coming as you wanted but you clung to the high ground and kept saying "I know this".

You say your here to Ascend, no your not, its clear you here as a tool to spread more disinformation and fear, you have no concept of the entire process of ascension, do you think ascension will come for anyone with any kind of hatred in their heart?, any kind of distrust?, anyone who is completely controlled by their own ego? We are all going to have to take our chances in 2012 or whatever it has to bring, not one person has anything solid to say because its an unwritten future, whether you believe in dimensional splits, cataclysm or ET's coming down on a white horse to save you. I can tell you one "fact" about it, no one knows how or what will happen, no one, and that includes you.

Listen to this guy, far more knowledgeable than any one here on the whole subject then listen to what he has to say about the Grey's. Something I have thought many many times before and something I hadn't considered when I, like everyone else was in the grips of the fear attached to them, considering the Greys were born on 1947 on the 33rd degree latitude should ring a few bells even before you hear this guy, 1 of 6 try listening to them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_vIpxvb2wg

looks like we should agree to disagree and thats fine, what i know for a fact is different from u, so blessin on your path and blessins on mine. oh and ty for deciding the future of my ascension, how many others have u done this 4? how is my encounter some1 else, u spying on me? lol :) PEACE

p.s i really hoped poeple would stay the subject including me, i can see this in the rant room very soon, n i dont like writing there

[lightblessins]

there seems to be alot of old ish looking biulding and structures on the moon as well, maybe these were the first of the bases? do the ones operating the moon think we a really stupid or something, maybe the draconains dont realise how truly intelligent humans r? :)

[skunksmash]

The ruins are strange, if in fact IT IS a working base, if those beings within it had been the ones responsible for them why would they have been left to rot..?? they OBVIOUSLY have the technology to keep them maintained..

or maybe they had to stop using the surface that faces us once we gained the ability to look at it..??

.....i think maybe those ruins are actually human creations... from an early civilization wiped out by some celestial or geological event..

i'd love to get up there.....:p





:)SK

[lightblessins]

The ruins are strange, if in fact IT IS a working base, if those beings within it had been the ones responsible for them why would they have been left to rot..?? they OBVIOUSLY have the technology to keep them maintained..

or maybe they had to stop using the surface that faces us once we gained the ability to look at it..??

.....i think maybe those ruins are actually human creations... from an early civilization wiped out by some celestial or geological event..

i'd love to get up there.....:p





:)SK

alot of them seem to on the edge of the dark side which is more n more slowly coming into view, maybe they didnt think that would happen, they be used in rituals of some knid and are still special and sacred to the draconians so they want to keep them there, if that true then they must only be access via underground from the center of the moon where there main base of operations is.:)

fancy goin 4 a drive up there this wk end? :p

[skunksmash]

alot of them seem to on the edge of the dark side which is more n more slowly coming into view, maybe they didnt think that would happen, they be used in rituals of some knid and are still special and sacred to the draconians so they want to keep them there, if that true then they must only be access via underground from the center of the moon where there main base of operations is.:)

fancy goin 4 a drive up there this wk end? :p

love to..... i will bring the deck chairs, you can bring the spread ;)






:)SK

[lightblessins]

The ruins are strange, if in fact IT IS a working base, if those beings within it had been the ones responsible for them why would they have been left to rot..?? they OBVIOUSLY have the technology to keep them maintained..

or maybe they had to stop using the surface that faces us once we gained the ability to look at it..??

.....i think maybe those ruins are actually human creations... from an early civilization wiped out by some celestial or geological event..

i'd love to get up there.....:p





:)SK


if these biuldings on the moon were biuld by past human civilizations then which 1s? i believe the moon is a huge draconain space station, they must of always been present there, so did they let them just biuld on the surface freely? or did they agree to it? and were they apart it? :)

[thefallguy]

if these biuldings on the moon were biuld by past human civilizations then which 1s? i believe the moon is a huge draconain space station, they must of always been present there, so did they let them just biuld on the surface freely? or did they agree to it? and were they apart it? :)


Check this out mate: Moon Week March 27th - April 5th 2009. International Year of Astronomy Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taph4hRGGk&fmt=22

[thefallguy]

Hey there,

I don´t know about the moonbases,
but can you tell me, where my vibration should be in 2012?

Do you think I can just put them on a bus that goes there?
And where can I get tickets in advance(I really don´t wanna miss it...)?

sorry, off- topic, just kidding...;)
but I came across some of your posts during browsing the forum,
and I´ve got to say, I LIKE YOUR STYLEEE.

I thought it was worth mentioning...

so, clapclap, go back to play

love & laughter
(and a silly song once in a while)
ytch

P.S.: Somehow I really wonder about the vibe- thingy, any suggestions?:confused:

Vibration. Have you studied particle energy?

[thefallguy]

people that speculate are not in denial, they are reasonable enough to consider the evidence and not just believe any old shit just because they want to or they "have heard many others comfirming the same".

stating you know for a fact there are bases on the moon is misleading at best

Not if you've seen them.

[lightblessins]

Check this out mate: Moon Week March 27th - April 5th 2009. International Year of Astronomy Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taph4hRGGk&fmt=22

nice man watched that 1 last nite, looks very strange and very out of sync from the rest of th moons surface, hmmm wonder y that is?

ROCK ON FALLGUY!!!!! :D

[diky]

Not if you've seen them.

you have seen the bases on the moon?

[relax]

Not if you've seen them.

Show us a base on the moon, tia.

[lightblessins]

Show us a base on the moon, tia.

avnt u watched any of the vids on this thread?:)

[lightblessins]

you have seen the bases on the moon?

avnt u seen any of the vids on this thread yet?, if not back track.:)

[relax]

avnt u seen any of the vids on this thread yet?, if not back track.:)

I watched a few of them and ive seen loads of john lenard wilson / walson's videos, none of them show me anything to believe that theres bases, personally I do think theres bases / inhabited subterrain areas etc, so please link me to a video which you think shows this, and is clearly not the effect the mind can have when you stare at an ambiguous pattern and make out shapes in it.

[lightblessins]

I watched a few of them and ive seen loads of john lenard wilson / walson's videos, none of them show me anything to believe that theres bases, personally I do think theres bases / inhabited subterrain areas etc, so please link me to a video which you think shows this, and is clearly not the effect the mind can have when you stare at an ambiguous pattern and make out shapes in it.

if u dont think there r bases on the moon, then u will never beable to see them, minds are like parachutes they work better when there open. :)

[skunksmash]

if u dont think there r bases on the moon, then u will never beable to see them, minds are like parachutes they work better when there open. :)


what a classic........ ;)


have that non-believers. :p







:)SK

[relax]

if u dont think there r bases on the moon, then u will never beable to see them, minds are like parachutes they work better when there open. :)

You're right and your post is a classic example, despite me saying CLEARLY in my post personally I do think theres bases / inhabited subterrain areas etc you had a closed mind towards me because I asked questions and had a concious mind, so interpreted my post as another naysaying one despite what it said within it. Case closed I think.