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steppewar
18-03-2009, 02:37 AM
I reckon this so called credit crunch is a load of old bollocks.

In the UK food prices have gone down, there are lots of good offers everywhere to get people spending and inflation is close to zero.

On top of that I have just had a letter from the DSS, stating that my dole payments are going up in April more than double the amount they went up last year.

I reckon I am about £10 a week better of because of all this, not bad if you live on benefits.

I just hope the economy doesn't "recover" soon.

lupus
18-03-2009, 02:54 AM
Easy to say its bollox if you aren't suffering - for many millions of others it is very fucking real

nice too hear you've found your own bubble hope it doesn't pop too soon:D

impermanence
18-03-2009, 02:59 AM
I totally agree. Since Ireland's boom absolutely everything has at least doubled in price, if not tripled or more, and most people became self absorbed, arrogant pricks. I'm watching things drop in price by the day, it's awesome. :D I was unemployed before the recession so I could care less about wages. I'm delighted people have to slow down, I can imagine Mother Earth is taking a sigh of relief due to her constant raping by this virus with shoes. Fuck fancy Audi's and stainless steel kitchens, I love seeing the masses concerned, taking their money away is the only way they'll pay attention to how much they're being fucked up the ass. :rolleyes:

cruise4
18-03-2009, 04:27 AM
Food prices haven't gone down here. They are going up, every week. I believe this is reflecting the falling value of the pound. So enjoy your extra £10 a week, because it's not even keeping pace in reality. And what do people on the dole intend to do when payments are withdrawn? Or if you are made to work on nonsense projects?

Riots are a doddle IMO. Withdraw the dole, stop medications, stop pensions... and just those reasons alone will create the necessary climate. Rioting will largely be nothing to do with the awakened, but I expect it to happen anyway.

I'm just wondering at what point they will unveil their 'saviour' for everyone to clasp.

(It's interesting there's diverse opinion on food prices. Are those saying they are falling in the cities by any chance? Why the difference?).

secondsun
18-03-2009, 04:40 AM
I reckon this so called credit crunch is a load of old bollocks.

...in general it is!... but as this load of bollocks continues to perpetuate!... more and more people will be standing around scratching them!

steppewar
18-03-2009, 05:14 AM
Food prices haven't gone down here. They are going up, every week. I believe this is reflecting the falling value of the pound. So enjoy your extra £10 a week, because it's not even keeping pace in reality. And what do people on the dole intend to do when payments are withdrawn? Or if you are made to work on nonsense projects?

Riots are a doddle IMO. Withdraw the dole, stop medications, stop pensions... and just those reasons alone will create the necessary climate. Rioting will largely be nothing to do with the awakened, but I expect it to happen anyway.

I'm just wondering at what point they will unveil their 'saviour' for everyone to clasp.

(It's interesting there's diverse opinion on food prices. Are those saying they are falling in the cities by any chance? Why the difference?).

500g Flora low fat margarine £1.42 from Sainsbury's last month, £1.00 this month, no special offer on it. Other examples like this, too many too mention.

There will NOT be riots in the summer or a "total" economic crash. This is scaremongering put out by the PTB so that when it doesn't happen everyone will feel relieved and grateful that it didn't happen after being brainwashed that it would.

But because it will be portrayed by the MSM as having NEARLY happened the Elite will be able to get more of their economically centralized agenda pushed through governments a lot more easily.

Classic PRS, or even No Problem Reaction Solution.

On a selfish level my parents are paper millionaires so if I can no longer sponge of the state I will just sponge of them. As they can easily afford it and my lifestyle is quite cheap, they agreed to this years ago.

misterethoughts
18-03-2009, 05:51 AM
It's real, but yea, there is opportunities everywhere, no matter what.

cruise4
18-03-2009, 06:40 AM
There will NOT be riots in the summer or a "total" economic crash.

I know some products and items are increasingly hard to come by, various shipping appears to have ground to a standstill, some outlets are having a hard time finding stock, prices ARE rising dramatically, albeit possibly not your margarine. I think you are in cloud cuckoo land on this one. Riots may or may not happen but financially I expect serious shit to start to happen soon. It's just a bit invisible whilst reserves run down. But I know from attempting to get stuff and talking to retailers, it is getting difficult.

Personally I'm almost at the point where I no longer need money, a goal I fully intend to reach, and soon.

I'll be relieved and grateful when it does happen. Not when it doesn't. Do everyone a favour if the financial system completely crashed.

I wonder if they are lowering food in the larger supermarkets to squeeze the independant even harder?

lumpy
18-03-2009, 07:10 AM
I know some products and items are increasingly hard to come by, various shipping appears to have ground to a standstill, some outlets are having a hard time finding stock, prices ARE rising dramatically, albeit possibly not your margarine. I think you are in cloud cuckoo land on this one. Riots may or may not happen but financially I expect serious shit to start to happen soon. It's just a bit invisible whilst reserves run down. But I know from attempting to get stuff and talking to retailers, it is getting difficult.

Personally I'm almost at the point where I no longer need money, a goal I fully intend to reach, and soon.

I'll be relieved and grateful when it does happen. Not when it doesn't. Do everyone a favour if the financial system completely crashed.

I wonder if they are lowering food in the larger supermarkets to squeeze the independant even harder?

I don't understand why so many people seem to be reporting that prices are rising. I've noticed that recently many food items have fallen in price (some quite considerably), and overall my food bill is a good 20% less than it was 12 months ago. In my experience prices for other items, wether it's cars or electrical goods seem to be plummeting . I haven't come across a single item that has become hard to come by. The only exception to falling prices that I can find is houses. Where I live, contrary to what the media says, house prices haven't fallen, but stayed about level and seem to be selling quite easily.

Friends have complained that they can't go out as much because money is tight due to the credit crunch, yet none of them have lost their jobs or had pay cuts. In fact because of falling interest rates, their mortgage payments are lower. This combined with other falling prices means they are actually much better off.

I accept some people have lost their jobs recently (although I personally haven't come across anyone), but it seems everyone has been brainwashed with this 'credit crunch' scam. It's like everyone is suffering from some kind of collective psychosis.

cruise4
18-03-2009, 07:16 AM
Where are you? In a City? I'm rural. Food prices are substantially up here. I'm not making this up. Online I'm watching prices regularly. As the Euro has gradually equalised with the pound, prices have had to match. I agree mortgages have gone down. But that's temporary. Then there's the inflationary pressure of bank bailouts and printing more money. I imagine you aren't making it up either... so what's going on? Why is there a disparity and is it regional or what. Last time I was in a dole office I asked about rising unemployment and they said it was occurring. This is UK. Falling prices would indicate people aren't spending. But if stock movement is limited then that's a temporary situation too. Is there anyone from the merchant navy area on the forum? Deliveries are also taking longer.

unusual_suspect
18-03-2009, 07:27 AM
I haven't noticed food prices drop yet. If we start getting deflation like that won't there be a risk of hyper-inflation?

steppewar
18-03-2009, 07:44 AM
Where are you? In a City? I'm rural. Food prices are substantially up here. I'm not making this up. Online I'm watching prices regularly. As the Euro has gradually equalised with the pound, prices have had to match. I agree mortgages have gone down. But that's temporary. Then there's the inflationary pressure of bank bailouts and printing more money. I imagine you aren't making it up either... so what's going on? Why is there a disparity and is it regional or what. Last time I was in a dole office I asked about rising unemployment and they said it was occurring. This is UK. Falling prices would indicate people aren't spending. But if stock movement is limited then that's a temporary situation too. Is there anyone from the merchant navy area on the forum?

Jobseekers allowance was £60.50 from April 2008-April 2009. From April 2009-April 2010 it will be £64+.

I'm buzzing of this, it means I will be able to brew another 4 to 5 bottles of homebrew wine a week at the taxpayers expense to enable me to get even more anastheasatized at the taxpayers expense.

Cheers Gordon.

cruise4
18-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Mate, I don't care about you being on the dole. To me it's a step better then paying taxes. I'm going to be very interested in what happens when it's stopped though.

unusual_suspect
18-03-2009, 07:54 AM
Mate, I don't care about you being on the dole. To me it's a step better then paying taxes. I'm going to be very interested in what happens when it's stopped though.

I think they would get people to do some sort of community work for their benefits before they stop them. Out of curiosity, what would you do then Steppewar? Would you still claim? :)

steppewar
18-03-2009, 08:12 AM
I think they would get people to do some sort of community work for their benefits before they stop them. Out of curiosity, what would you do then Steppewar? Would you still claim? :)

As I stated before, I will then just live off an allowance from my my millionaire parents. Last time I had a job it made me seriously ill.

pri01
18-03-2009, 08:14 AM
I might see some prices falling in some food stuffs however, the staple foods such as bread, rice pasta etc. these have very much increased. Only yesterday in sainsburies I was shaking my head at the packets of meat with security alarms on them. Packs of 8 slices of boiled ham £3.00 is a total put off and does not encourage me to buy.

beldazar
18-03-2009, 08:18 AM
Where are these people living where prices are lowered? They arent lowering down here!
They went up rather a lot, not the odd 2p like they used to.
Lidls bread was 35p not long back, the same loaf is now 89p.

The ice-cream van came round a few days ago, I grumbled because smarlies ice cream had gone up 40p from last summer.

Our food here goes up every summer ready to scam holiday makers (and us locals obviously) and doesnt go down again. I bet the businesses are using the excuse of the credit crunch to hike up the prices unnecessarily :(

montag
18-03-2009, 08:31 AM
500g Flora low fat margarine £1.42 from Sainsbury's last month, £1.00 this month
Yeah but that shit will kill you, you may as well be eating plastic. What about fresh fruit and vegetables have they come down in price or is it just the junk?

stickwhistler
18-03-2009, 08:56 AM
We bake our own bread.
The flour went up by 20p per bag locally start of Feb',
so we toddled off to other supermarket chains
and miraculously, it had gone up by 20p there too. Price fix!

20p increase on 48p -> 68p = approx 40% increase in price.
Pasta was 19p this time last year, now 49p.
Beans were 18p now 29p.
Tomatos 19p now 33p.
Butter was 53p - now 84p this price was repeated in Asda, Teso, Summerfield.
Sunflower oil was 49p now £1.22 per litre.
Eggs up by nearly 50%.

Prices on staples have gone up!
There is the odd 'offer' but look at the items being discounted.
Cut the price on the 'luxury' goods,
to make customers think that prices have gone down,
while hiking the basic staples - because people have to have them,
makes the supermarkets look like the good guys,
but in fact maximizes their profits because of the increase in essentials.

Even the Aldi/Lidl stores are doing it,
never mind the 'price war' between Asda -v- Tesco -v- Morrisons -v- Sainsburies.

Then there is the discount trick!
E.g. Item cut to 60p from £1, big splash about how they are helping etc.
After a short while - maybe two or three weeks - long enough to
get shoppers used to the 'new price',
with no announcement, the price scoots up to £1.20,
and the first time you notice is when you check your receipt!
The price then remains at the higher price until the next con,
meanwhile the discounts on some other item are hyped etc, repeat.

I can't honestly say that we are better off under this current situation at all!

morjo
18-03-2009, 09:05 AM
Yet there are people now in America living in tent cities, so go figure. I wouldn't want to be one of them, they're hardly better off.

darkman
18-03-2009, 09:08 AM
why is it that jobseekers allowence goes up when in truth them who are claiming arent reallly looking for a job and this posting ratyfies that , why should he or she find a job if they tptb keep putting his dole up , when us the general hard working get on with it survivers of the made up econemy crash will get thru, cos we have never really had that much money and are happy with what we have , some 1 said rioting will happen yes cos tptb want us to , to show every this is waht happens and now we will bring in the laws to stop it happening again , but i for 1 wont be there as im doing my bit by daily by not shopping at the big 4 supermarket chains and supporting my locals ,if we all did that then they might bring some pricing down !!!:(
work it out
you shop more they will put prices up more
and there saviour out of all this will be .......wait for it ...
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x95/quijon_photo/images.jpg

bones
18-03-2009, 09:36 AM
Jobseekers allowance was £60.50 from April 2008-April 2009. From April 2009-April 2010 it will be £64+.

I'm buzzing of this, it means I will be able to brew another 4 to 5 bottles of homebrew wine a week at the taxpayers expense to enable me to get even more anastheasatized at the taxpayers expense.

Cheers Gordon.

ppl seam to get quite upset about ppl on the dole getting hand outs but i look at it diferent stepp!!
you to me have you head screwed on as you dont work and have most of your rent/ council tax paid for.
ppl who work 40 hrs a week are the daft ones really, im self employed and work what hours i can and manage on very little money. i personally will never go onthe dole no matter what happens as i find it degrading personally for me, but for some its easy and enjoy it while it lasts stepp.

i only hope you like me have learned to be self sufficent if and when they plan to destroy the economy.

steppewar
18-03-2009, 10:09 AM
ppl seam to get quite upset about ppl on the dole getting hand outs but i look at it diferent stepp!!
you to me have you head screwed on as you dont work and have most of your rent/ council tax paid for.
ppl who work 40 hrs a week are the daft ones really, im self employed and work what hours i can and manage on very little money. i personally will never go onthe dole no matter what happens as i find it degrading personally for me, but for some its easy and enjoy it while it lasts stepp.

i only hope you like me have learned to be self sufficent if and when they plan to destroy the economy.

Aye, it's all a ride. When I go into the job centre every 2 weeks I see it as a right old laugh.

The bird behind the desk asks me the same old shite every time, "How's the job hunting going?", etc.

She knows it's a game just as much as me.

It's only a matter of time before one of us bursts out laughing during these farcical so called "interviews".

steppewar
18-03-2009, 10:25 AM
More good news for credit crunch winners here ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162727/UK-recession-worst-It-major-economy-slump-year-predicts-IMF.html

This is REALLY good news for the 5 to 6 million people who refuse to work for the Elite.co.uk.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it James Purnell, you thick knobhead.

jonesy1981
18-03-2009, 10:27 AM
Aye, it's all a ride. When I go into the job centre every 2 weeks I see it as a right old laugh.

The bird behind the desk asks me the same old shite every time, "How's the job hunting going?", etc.

She knows it's a game just as much as me.

It's only a matter of time before one of us bursts out laughing during these farcical so called "interviews".

Wow your parents must be so proud.

steppewar
18-03-2009, 10:35 AM
Wow your parents must be so proud.

They are actually. I've educated them in how how world is run, have you done the same with yours?

jonesy1981
18-03-2009, 10:42 AM
They are actually. I've educated them in how how world is run, have you done the same with yours?

No I don't really feel the need to, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it is run.

I'm sure it would be very enlightening.

steppewar
18-03-2009, 10:51 AM
No I don't really feel the need to, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it is run.

I'm sure it would be very enlightening.

Google "Bilderburg Group". This will link you to most of your answers, even though I reckon you are taking the piss on this.

morjo
18-03-2009, 11:34 AM
steppewar, I'm not having a go at you, but in your perfect world what would you do with yourself or how would your ideal world operate?

Personally, I couldn't bare getting the dole knowing very well a lot of it's mostly peoples or what you would call slaves tax they have paid the government through their income tax.