your experience of spreading the word...

[dark86]

..to family n friends and methods used?

[lightbeing]

..to family n friends and methods used?

Oh, tried that, got my balls cut off:( (metaphorically speaking!) They will have to find out the truth themselves............

[orgo knight]

Being laughed at and all the skeptical comebacks gets at bit tiring.
If someone shows interest I'll run with it.Otherwise I stick to myself and utilise my energy and time to learn more.

[bapp_69]

..to family n friends and methods used?

I found that starting with the basics is the only way to go with people who have no education on these subjects.

9/11 is the most obvious starting point as the offical story most blatant bullshit going, you just have to look.

When I was first opened to this type of info I was going mental trying to tell and covert all my friends and family and getting ridiculed in the process, which used to drive me insane. I have learnt now how to drop certain things into conversation that get peoples minds thinking differently rather than lecturering them for 20 mins on a topic... Most people either dont want to know or dont like being told something they havent worked out for themselves.

My understanding is that we only need to do what we are already doing. As we are all interconnected our thought processes are all interlinked. As we begin to unravel the truth in our heads, the simple process of thinking about it pushes others on to discovering it for themselves.

(100 monkeys theory!) www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm

I find now that I only talk about it in length to people I know are willing to listen. I dont care if they belive me or not but if they are willing to listen it may push then to look for themselves.

[freespark]

'You are just gullible' .......'they wouldn't do that' .....'but thats how the banks make thier money' (:D ROFL at this one) the worst is...*awake* me talk talk talk then i get *nod nod* then *back to sleep* zzzzz It really is like hitting your head againsed the wall.

People with open minds will ask questions and be intrigued immediately. The others just switch off and let the 'programming' take over. You can tell which is which in the first 15 seconds of the conversation. :D

[auron]

Oh, tried that, got my balls cut off:( (metaphorically speaking!) They will have to find out the truth themselves............
Same thing here mate! I've lost most my "friends" over the last year, and i hardly speak to my family anymore.

But saying that, I feel more free than ever now!

Lightbeing is right, they have to find out themselves. Attempting to force people to wake up is about as much use as knocking on peoples doors and trying to sell them double glazed windows. :)

[freespark]

Same thing here mate! I've lost most my "friends" over the last year, and i hardly speak to my family anymore.

But saying that, I feel more free than ever now!

Lightbeing is right, they have to find out themselves. Attempting to force people to wake up is about as much use as knocking on peoples doors and trying to sell them double glazed windows. :)

Yeah this is true...only problem is, most of them will wake up when it's too bloody late!!

[auron]

Yeah this is true...only problem is, most of them will wake up when it's too bloody late!!
Ain't that the sad truth?

If you're going to try, i've always thought the subtle method works best. By "accidently" leaving articles, Icke books and other things lying around so that they'll pick them up and hopefully have a good read. :)

[freespark]

Ain't that the sad truth?

If you're going to try, i've always thought the subtle method works best. By "accidently" leaving articles, Icke books and other things lying around so that they'll pick them up and hopefully have a good read. :)

This is a very good idea...i've even printed loads of copies of a particular article and then left them in the tube on my way home. People are really bored on the tube so might even take the time to read it.

http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/articles/manifesto07/mreform1.html

I thought this would be a good place to start....pity i don't take the tube anymore but i have emailed it around. No replies of course...:D

[soglad]

Same thing here mate! I've lost most my "friends" over the last year, and i hardly speak to my family anymore.

But saying that, I feel more free than ever now!

Lightbeing is right, they have to find out themselves. Attempting to force people to wake up is about as much use as knocking on peoples doors and trying to sell them double glazed windows. :)

3 years ago (when I started exploring mind and being introduced to new things) I was currently hanging around with a group of people who I did like and were aware of the ridiculousness of society but were not into the things I was discovering, I'd tiptoe trying to tell them and of course, they'd laugh, thought I was weird. After a while they started making me paranoid with the things they were saying, it was almost like an Icke scenario, I was being ridiculed by my own "friends" so I decided if I was to go anywhere I needed to get rid of old baggage. I just out of the blue stopped hanging around with them and started hanging around with my true friends, the people I've known since a child, they're usually the real friends. I've since then met loads of new friends (none who think LIKE me, but accept me and are REAL friends). Although recently I've been talking to the people I used to hang out with and the odd time hanging out with them, I think we're just different people now, and there's nothing I can (or should) do to change that.

Again, there's nothing I can do to change them, it's they're life.

I am so much happier now that I am following my own mind and letting go.

[auron]

3 years ago (when I started exploring mind and being introduced to new things) I was currently hanging around with a group of people who I did like and were aware of the ridiculousness of society but were not into the things I was discovering, I'd tiptoe trying to tell them and of course, they'd laugh, thought I was weird. After a while they started making me paranoid with the things they were saying, it was almost like an Icke scenario, I was being ridiculed by my own "friends" so I decided if I was to go anywhere I needed to get rid of old baggage. I just out of the blue stopped hanging around with them and started hanging around with my true friends, the people I've known since a child, they're usually the real friends. I've since then met loads of new friends (none who think LIKE me, but accept me and are REAL friends). Although recently I've been talking to the people I used to hang out with and the odd time hanging out with them, I think we're just different people now, and there's nothing I can (or should) do to change that.

Again, there's nothing I can do to change them, it's they're life.

I am so much happier now that I am following my own mind and letting go.


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[lottie]

Its a painstaking task as far as im concerned, ive tried, not necessarily to impose my beliefs on others but because i find it fascinating but no-one wants to talk about it, they humour me for a few minutes then its....'oh i see' aaaaannnndddd 'back-to-sleep'....'so did you see the spice girls are re-uniting?'!!! :rolleyes:

The biggest thing i have found is when i get started everything leads on to something else and then that leads to something else and then you have to go down the realms of quantum physics and energies etc etc at which point im so in a muddle i get confused myself and end up leaving them feeling more confused and more convinced im a mental case, than if i'd have just said nothing!!! i cant seem to stop at just the basics because you have to explain the whole thing or else you leave parts of the puzzle out and then they will have cause to discredit it.

I have been suprised at who of my friends are opened minded though, some have really humoured me throughout my discussions and asked questions etc.... my mum was the last person i ever expected to 'get it' and she has taken it on board brilliantly although has no desire to investigate further as i think she likes her life the way it is!!

my best mate really suprised me as she was interested then got get pregnant and left the subject alone but now she's had the baby she's asking me more and more and i rang her up the otehr day and asked 'what you up to?' she said 'oh im reading a book about secret societies' :D i was so pleased to hear her say that- just because she's finally going and looking for herself....

i think thats the key- give people a taster and let them go investigate themselves- i always say- 'dont take my word for it, go look and check yourself' that was the best bit of advice my OH ever gave me- he told me not to take david ickes word for it or anyone elses - go check for yourself, and i did and im more convinced and knowledgable than ever as a result! :)

All my other friends i find it very difficult to relate to now- they arnt in the least interested and i find myself drifting further and further from them because i dont find them mentally stimulating in the way i did when i was asleep, i try to blend in with them but ultimately i feel as though im supressing the real me and then have to leave their company. I hope they do wake up at some point i really do but if they wont listen to me after being their friend for however many years then how are they going to wake up to whats going on?

[freespark]

Great post Lotti! :D

The biggest thing i have found is when i get started everything leads on to something else and then that leads to something else and then you have to go down the realms of quantum physics and energies etc etc at which point im so in a muddle i get confused myself and end up leaving them feeling more confused and more convinced im a mental case, than if i'd have just said nothing!!! i cant seem to stop at just the basics because you have to explain the whole thing or else you leave parts of the puzzle out and then they will have cause to discredit it.

Hehe this is a big problem because it is so bloody complicated and it's not easy to explain it all in one sitting....i also do the same by trying to explain all the different facets and then you look even more crazy lol!

I'm learning to just drop little hints now and keep it simple but it's hard to when it's not very simple at all. :(

[soglad]

All my other friends i find it very difficult to relate to now- they arnt in the least interested and i find myself drifting further and further from them because i dont find them mentally stimulating in the way i did when i was asleep, i try to blend in with them but ultimately i feel as though im supressing the real me and then have to leave their company.

That's it right there!

Getting rid of old baggage is a sad necessity, all you can hope is that they will come around.

[truthseeker1980]

It is like hitting your head against a wall, I've had arguments with my Dad, my Mum thinks i'm a lunatic and my ex-girlfriend actually finished it with me because of it. Both my brothers are on our side though and a few of my friends are slowly coming round.

Colleagues at work though are still brainwashed

My Nan (gandmother) though is the most receptive to all the theories, she actually believes it and asks questions. I have come to the conclusion that the reason she does, is because she saw the illuminati in action during world war 2 and probably most of her generation would be very interested in what I/we have found out, just a shame most are now dead or their minds have gone.

Interesting though that they accelerate the agenda, as the older generation all die off, not a co-incidence me thinks. Well planned more likely, brainwash all children from the 50's onwards then when the parent die, step up with the agenda.

[weirdwolf71]

I totally simpathize with you guys...been 'awake' for 2 years and have been persistantly sending emails and striking up conversations with people when I think I have the opportunity to tell them something....with mixed results.
Me mum asked me recently not to send her any more 'funny' emails, and after showing her the Aaron Russo i/v talking about Nick Rockerfeller she just trundled off saying 'i don't believe him' and they would never do 9/11 etc.

Had a good night last night talking to 2 guys at a place I work at and they were totally open to everything I was telling them....chemtrails, HAARP, 9/11, war on terror hoax,banking, ruling elite, NWO etc...it was a joy to let rip without the usual 'i'm brainwashed'/deluded/conspiracy nut comebacks.

Also, got into a conversation with my sisters boyfriend who's in his 50's and not short of an opinion - dropped the North American Union into things.....'why don't I know about this?' he said looking quizzical...didn't go much into 9/11 except to ask him 'who benefits' and told him about PNAC document.

[dondaz]

Hi dark86, good thread as I need to brush up on a few techniques.

This is one of the ways I get the message out:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4876807553043435597&q=darren+pollard&total=11&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

:rolleyes:

Keep them coming. There should be a sticky on this thread as these are some of the things I feel we all should be doing.

[auron]

Nice clip mate :)

I liked your choice of music!

[dark86]

ta mate.

cause of thread is that only woke up a week ago want to tell all as its all i am thinking about - trying to work it all out in my head. read 2 books and watched about 100 online vids/docos in a week. large transformation process to unlearn alot of history that has been fed to me.

but i know for a fact fam/fnds will pitch fork me.

really wierd as i was always anti authority and system from a very young age and often daydreamed that this was all a lie but at 23 i sold out to the system. I have also always been a big cynic regarding media, gov, wars.

Only 4 months ago (which i now know was meant to happen) i quit my coroporate job and left england to go somewhere much more relaxed and i started doing meditation as i always wanted to do this if i had time - all a path towards what i now really believe is true. Each hour i try and think of reasons this is not all true - but i cant discredit it.

[pumma]

Some people will listen some won't. Some will laugh and some won't. It was the first time (years ago) when I talked to 7 people when having a "open" discussion about what is going on in the world. One of them asked me "what do you think?" (Iraq question). Then I told them 3 hour short version (of what I knew) from 15.000 B.C. to 2012. In the end one of them asked: "So the Bush is evil then?"

From that time on I always start from how our minds (brains) work and then see if it is worth my time or not.

[roxanna222]

In the beginning I was eager to engage others into it and I enjoyed the challenge and even thought that I was in some way supieror, Iam not. At the time I really thought I had to get the message across. My current roommate Ive mentioned it a bit and now if hes mad he will bring it up to vent out at me and hurt me. An excuse it is for whatever may be ailing him. I have only told my family where its come up. A need to know basis. Basically why did you do x thing? Well because of y thing. And ofcourse they not happy with me. I think at this stage its not my job or duty to tell anyone. The bastards can rot in the camps for all I care. If not see now then never will. Im tired of ridicule etc. that results in nothing. So fuck it. I aint bothering with the people now at all. Let them enjoy the fate they choose. Fuck all I care and thats the honest truth. So that has been my personal experience and conclusion of it thus far.

[indigo]

Ok heres my experiences. First of all my husband thinks I'm a fucking weirdo, he also told me not to poison the kids minds:o Well I told my son that the earth may be hollow but not to take it literally. HA HA he went and told his geography teacher:o ''The earth has a crust, upper mantle a mantle an outer core and an inner core boy '' Shit, he even asked where he got the info. I'm dreading open evening.:D

[mari]

Ok heres my experiences. First of all my husband thinks I'm a fucking weirdo, he also told me not to poison the kids minds:o Well I told my son that the earth may be hollow but not to take it literally. HA HA he went and told his geography teacher:o ''The earth has a crust, upper mantle a mantle an outer core and an inner core boy '' Shit, he even asked where he got the info. I'm dreading open evening.:D

LOL! Go with it, girl! Stir 'em up!

[mari]

These days, I wear my 'lunacy' like a badge.:D Its a hard-earned achievement, & I'm proud of it.
I think one of the worst things that can befall a person is to be thought of as 'boring' & are thus invisible - unfortunately a given, when you are female, not a size 10, & of a certain age........
This society & its pigeon-holing gets on my tits, & I will do all I can to shake the complacency of people I know who think they've got the world sewn up in their pocket.

[lightbeing]

Its a painstaking task as far as im concerned, ive tried, not necessarily to impose my beliefs on others but because i find it fascinating but no-one wants to talk about it, they humour me for a few minutes then its....'oh i see' aaaaannnndddd 'back-to-sleep'....'so did you see the spice girls are re-uniting?'!!! :rolleyes:

The biggest thing i have found is when i get started everything leads on to something else and then that leads to something else and then you have to go down the realms of quantum physics and energies etc etc at which point im so in a muddle i get confused myself and end up leaving them feeling more confused and more convinced im a mental case, than if i'd have just said nothing!!! i cant seem to stop at just the basics because you have to explain the whole thing or else you leave parts of the puzzle out and then they will have cause to discredit it.

I have been suprised at who of my friends are opened minded though, some have really humoured me throughout my discussions and asked questions etc.... my mum was the last person i ever expected to 'get it' and she has taken it on board brilliantly although has no desire to investigate further as i think she likes her life the way it is!!

my best mate really suprised me as she was interested then got get pregnant and left the subject alone but now she's had the baby she's asking me more and more and i rang her up the otehr day and asked 'what you up to?' she said 'oh im reading a book about secret societies' :D i was so pleased to hear her say that- just because she's finally going and looking for herself....

i think thats the key- give people a taster and let them go investigate themselves- i always say- 'dont take my word for it, go look and check yourself' that was the best bit of advice my OH ever gave me- he told me not to take david ickes word for it or anyone elses - go check for yourself, and i did and im more convinced and knowledgable than ever as a result! :)

All my other friends i find it very difficult to relate to now- they arnt in the least interested and i find myself drifting further and further from them because i dont find them mentally stimulating in the way i did when i was asleep, i try to blend in with them but ultimately i feel as though im supressing the real me and then have to leave their company. I hope they do wake up at some point i really do but if they wont listen to me after being their friend for however many years then how are they going to wake up to whats going on?

Good post Lotts:)

I get easily confused, too much fooking info out there, I just stick to UFOs, nice & simple!!!LOL;);):D

I seem to be good at leading a double life, switching my brain between the real world and illusionary world!:eek:

[phoebe]

Whose word is it you are spreading?

[roxanna222]

I get easily confused, too much fooking info out there, I just stick to UFOs, nice & simple!!!LOL;);):D

I know what you mean! I find it very hard to articulate it when under pressure. Which only compounds it really. So much to discuss so many facts so much!

I seem to be good at leading a double life, switching my brain between the real world and illusionary world!:eek:[/QUOTE]

This is what is breaking down for me. I cant lead a double life. Every time I have to deal with others it just gets harder and harder. I know if i "have" to I can respond "correctly" in a given situation, by correct I do not mean lying, if asked and touches on my beliefs Ive no choice but to voice them, I simply mean I can pick the right forks, etc for whatever course whatever. I dont have to is the thing. I wont so am no longer asked to. And now I think they in some way no best not to ask me to "perform" as will be a disaster. Like balancing a porcelean object while walking atop some high up balcony, a tad riske yes?, so no Im a recluse if i ever met one. In part choice In part to spare me more bullshit. So to be honest I envy your position as I feel a tad lost and alone whereas you can play the part perhaps to some satisfaction, much like a kid high on pot acting "straight laced", sort of a fun feeling if any one remembers those times.

[nickatnoon61]

Good on ya Auron! How can you soar like an eagle, when the turkeys pull you down????? I have experienced the same with my family and friends!

[nickatnoon61]

[QUOTE=roxanna222;71326]I know what you mean! I find it very hard to articulate it when under pressure. Which only compounds it really. So much to discuss so many facts so much!


/QUOTE]
Rox, even when people talk about the weather, to make small talk, I start into Chemtrails!!! Too funny, but that is who I am.

[chris]

I started out just like most people, extremely bad at it...I would even talk about the holocaust (BAD IDEA). Just like most, I alienated the majority of my friends and family. This is a very common phase.

Now I'm much more of a politician and a great spinner. I speak to a lot of people in my job and I've found that I can really get them interested. This one time I finished my job and I just sat talking to the guy for about 15 minutes, he then immediately went in to watch America Freedom to fascism and Terror Storm.

I usually find out what they are interested in, what they like and dislike and then try to add in some info. I am very evasive about it and let them probe and get the info out of me and let them work it out.

The best way by far is to mass distribute DVD's to total strangers. You may be discouraged by your family and friends but strangers are actually happy you are doing something for them for free and they are very receptive.

[slave]

Is in reality only who identify objective truth in his/her truth.:D:D:D

[21_12_2012]

I started out just like most people, extremely bad at it...I would even talk about the holocaust (BAD IDEA). Just like most, I alienated the majority of my friends and family. This is a very common phase.

Now I'm much more of a politician and a great spinner. I speak to a lot of people in my job and I've found that I can really get them interested. This one time I finished my job and I just sat talking to the guy for about 15 minutes, he then immediately went in to watch America Freedom to fascism and Terror Storm.

I usually find out what they are interested in, what they like and dislike and then try to add in some info. I am very evasive about it and let them probe and get the info out of me and let them work it out.

The best way by far is to mass distribute DVD's to total strangers. You may be discouraged by your family and friends but strangers are actually happy you are doing something for them for free and they are very receptive.

Good post...and good technique too.

It is always the best way for people to believe they have stumbled upon 'information' themselves, rather than being 'fed it'

Let them do the digging and probe you for the info...that way, they feel they've achieved something on their own, and it (hopefully) starts them on a path of finding out whats really going on in the world.

Good stuff

[slave]

The best way by far is to mass distribute DVD's to total strangers.

[21_12_2012]

The best way by far is to mass distribute DVD's to total strangers.

Alternatively, a much cheaper way is to cut out and distribute these to people, or leave them in 'popular' places for people to see.....

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[kooo]

In the beginning I was eager to engage others into it and I enjoyed the challenge and even thought that I was in some way supieror, Iam not. At the time I really thought I had to get the message across. My current roommate Ive mentioned it a bit and now if hes mad he will bring it up to vent out at me and hurt me. An excuse it is for whatever may be ailing him. I have only told my family where its come up. A need to know basis. Basically why did you do x thing? Well because of y thing. And ofcourse they not happy with me. I think at this stage its not my job or duty to tell anyone. The bastards can rot in the camps for all I care. If not see now then never will. Im tired of ridicule etc. that results in nothing. So fuck it. I aint bothering with the people now at all. Let them enjoy the fate they choose. Fuck all I care and thats the honest truth. So that has been my personal experience and conclusion of it thus far.

You're similar to me, in the beginning I was trying to tell everyone I came into contact with but like many people have said here, most didn't want to know. Now just like you I don't really care about other people as my priorities have changed a lot in the past year, I now look out for myself, sod the rest, leave them to it. Sounds selfish but sometimes we have to be.

[chris]

AJ says not even to bother with family and friends, they think your trying to be clever or condescending and thinking your family is gullable...Talking to strangers or planting seeds and joining a truth group (for visible activism) is the best route.

I think that's true although pressuring friends and family is a mistake that everyone falls into. I think also if you wake up your friends, they don't really seem to be as against the nwo as they should be. It's usually the people that wake up on their own that start fighting.

[cruise4]

I don't see the need to convince them of anything. I just want to put the idea out there that something other than the accepted norm is going on. A single phrase 'Do you know 9/11 was an inside job' can do the trick. Then leave the un-interested alone. At the apropriate time they will remember and be begging you to tell them more.

Information intertwines. The more we go forwards in time, the more confliction people will face. Its preparing them for the soon to be, not the now thats vital. The odd fish will jump out the keep net.

That relates to the masses who are well asleep. I also come across people that are much more open from the get go. I'll relate one story:

One old friend came round and I told him the full works, took all day. He went away fully armed with half my advertsing stock. The next day he got his father to watch Loose Change. His father is an ex-magistrate and turned out to have some relationship with J. Prescott and he got straight on the blower to him and asked wtf was going on?

You may never see the extent to which your efforts paid off but the proof is in the truth movement itself which is now far larger and far more widespread than it was.

Maybe the first time someone sees a sticker they don't take any notice. maybe the second time too. But perhaps after the third time they go to work and say 'Hey Bill, have you seen these 9/11 stickers popping up? Whats going on'

There is no point in being confrontational about it unless you are very very confident and secure in your knowledge, and conversation skills, and thats not me at this point.

Another story: I went to court recently and wore a 9/11 is an inside Job T shirt. As well as a damn good searching I got a lot of smiles 'AFTER' they read the logo. But I was sat there thinking 'if only you knew the truth' and inwardly smiling back at them. The court officials definately had a bit of a natter amongst themselves about it, but really I'd got them!

You aren't superior and should beware of those thoughts, thats a lesson in itself, but your knowledge is superior and you are the one that has it and so at this point important. Unless you also choose not to be.

[father ted]

It's like they have a switch inside their head that shuts of all logic and and signs of inteligence. Hollywood has done it's job with movies like "a beautiful mind", "23", "unbroken" and especialy those series about (fictional) the supernatural where the characted ends up being delusional.

I saw that switch turn right the fuck on as soon as I mentioned and was being sarcastic about "global warming", the other day.

The others that listen just say yes, yup, aha... and they couldn't give a fuck. People have a bad memory. A few skeptics on this forum have that same switch too.

I haven't been able to explain to anyone anything because they don't wanna listen, no matter what your approach is. Maybe one person, but he's probably forgotten.

As I've said, they programme people to think this way: "oh, those crazy conspiracy theories:rolleyes:":rolleyes:, through movies, media ect.

[father ted]

Being laughed at and all the skeptical comebacks gets at bit tiring.
If someone shows interest I'll run with it.Otherwise I stick to myself and utilise my energy and time to learn more.

In the end, that is what I've learned too. Everyone's on their own journey and you have to let them get there in their own way. No point in trying to force anything down anyone's throats and waste your energy. If they want to suffer for it fine, it don't bother me, as long as they don't start imposing themselves and their bullshit onto me.

[gordonfreeman]

Been there, done that.

I won't spread the word, until they are ready.

[peter19]

yeah i feel the same sometimes, i cant face behing laughed at ect and if people are going to do that then whats the point. i can only live my life if people seem intrested with some of the things then ill more so talk about it, but if not, oh well.

i reckon a good way also to get the message out though is if you have your house in order so to speak. most people, will judge the person more than the info, so if you seem abit unbalanced then they are much more likely to think you are a nutter or not really listen, but if you sort of have a vibe about you then i think people take what you say in much more.

but alot of people once they know, as chris said, dont really seem to care, just go back on the farm eh, "what can i do about it?."