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bluman
17-03-2009, 12:37 AM
The British constitution/common law is under attack and is likely to be completely wiped out in favour of the EU constitution. Any British common laws (allowing for the freeman status) that previously applied will also be wiped out with the introduction of an EU European wide Police State where foreign police officers have the power to police Britain (even if the British freeman/common laws were to be kept then these foreign police officers would not be held accountable to obey British laws - however, this won't be the case as the British constitution as well as its laws are soon being wiped out and being replaced with EU replacements)

An EU wide super police force composed mainly of armed foregin police troops, some that probably barely speak English, will not respect any common law of Britain due to not being held accountable to any of our common laws, so long as it does not confict with the EU constitution.


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Here You All Go.

For more Info Link: http://www.eutruth.org.uk/


The abolition of Britain
by The Lisbon Treaty
on 1st January 2009
This sixth and final EU treaty formally replaced Britain with the European Union on 1st January 2009. This is a year before the deadline set by the Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel.

The Treaty "takes primacy" over the British Constitution which it thereby abolished, and with it the nations of Britain and England; it gives the EU the power to close our Westminster Parliament (probably on 5th May 2010). It may take two or three years for the EU to consolidate its power, after which it will be impossible to get out.

The Treaty sets up an unelected three tier politburo executive in Brussels with absolute power, a dictatorship on the soviet model. The EU parliament has no power and is a sham.

Read the "7 deadly Lisbon clauses" on the left. Gordon Brown was lying: the Treaty is worse than the EU constitution.


The Queen and Parliament completed ratification spring 2008
MPs voted by 362 - 224 for the Reform, or Lisbon Treaty in its Second Reading on Monday 21st January 2008. Parliament allocated 12 days to discuss this treaty in February (not much for its own abolition).
The Queen, one of the main driving forces behind the EU for most of her life, gladly gave her Royal Assent on 19th June 2008. This means Westminster and the Queen ratified it behind our backs, as they have the other five treaties.

This Commons vote, one of the most important in our history, was largely unreported by our controlled press.

Since 1973 when the first EU Treaty came into effect, the EU has moved tens of thousands of pro-EU people into the senior positions right across our Parliament, government, press and media.

Westminster has been a puppet government of the EU for 36 years.
The Conservative, Labour and Lib-Dem parties pass EU treaties, EU laws, EU regulations and EU policy; over 80% of its legislation and policy is the EU's. Our five party leaderships take their orders from the EU, not from the voters, which is why your vote makes no difference, and the reason your wishes are ignored.
Westminster has passed over 300 major laws, like the Civil Contingencies Act, to "harmonise" our laws with the EU's. The loss of freedoms and emerging police state is the result.

They have also passed 120,000 EU regulations; the 10% enforced so far have closed scores of thousands of businesses, from village petrol stations, to big industries like the Rover Car Co, to post offices (EC-9767). When fully enforced most of Britains 4.5 million small businesses will close, and most of their 13.5 million workers will be unemployed.

Yes, the EU will cause abject poverty, but in Britain alone. These 120,000 regulations do not apply in other EU countries. Nearly all the new "daft" rules, from dustbin over-enforcement to the Intercept Modernisation Bill (spying on our mail, email, phones; EU directive 2006/24/EC) to the complete removal of the public's wishes from local planning permission, stem from EU legislation.

The leaderships of the Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, UKIP and BNP parties are run by placemen loyal to the EU. There is only one British political party - the EU party - we already live in a one party state.

EU Collaborators closing Westminster
Gordon Brown, his Ministers, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Nigel Farage, Nick Griffin and their senior colleagues are conscious EU collaborators. There are no senior people with power in British politics or the judiciary who are not bought and paid for by the EU. MPs, such as Westminster's Mark Field, will admit to you they know their Parliament is closing.
On 1st January 2009 the Lisbon Treaty removed the last 20%, ie all remaining power, from our Westminster Parliament, which became defunct on that day. It will continue the charade for the EU's sake, to conceal the truth from the carefully dumbed down British Public, until the EU has consolidated its power.

On 11th June 2009 we have bogus elections to the sham Brussels Parliament, the only elections we will get in the future.

Westminster's five year term expires on 5th May 2010 and a British General Election is due. The six treaties make no provision for an election to our Parliament. If by that time the EU feels it has consolidated its absolute power, it will use it to cancel that election and to close Westminster.

The EU has always planned to break England up by ruling directly from Brussels through the 9 EU regional capitals (Exeter, Manchester etc.), by-passing Westminster, from which every function will be removed.


When Westminster closes its much harder to leave
- Because there will be no Parliament to take us out. The legal way then is for senior judges to declare the six EU treaties illegal under the British Constitution and therefore null and void. But the reason they didn't do that decades ago is because our Law Lords too are part of the tens of thousands carefully chosen and moved into the controlling senior positions precisly because they are prepared to break the law to keep us in the EU.
Treason is the most serious of all Britain’s crimes. It still merits life imprisonment. There is little time left to bring these vile British traitors to justice, and get us out of the EU dictatorship.


Economic destruction of Britain; and we will not be allowed into the Euro
The EU dictatorship cannot be built while there is a strong and freedom loving Britain on its doorstep. (We stopped them in 1914, 1939, and they don't remind you that the Nazis launched the EU as the EEC in 1940.)
For this reason the EU plans to destroy Britain economically (well underway - 35% done), militarily (see Lisbon - 30%), judicially (55%), socially (eg the deliberate breakdown of the family - 30%) and politically (70% complete).

The fact Britain is doing worse than other countries in this recession, and Sterling is falling, is entirely due to the deliberately crippling costs of the EU, now 1/4 of our economy; its made our Exchequer almost insolvent with the extra borrowing its caused. No, the EU will not let us into the Euro; its much easier to destroy Britain and Sterling together if we're kept outside.

The success, over the last fifty years, of the EU's Frankfurt School subversion techniques on Britain (see left) has been astonishing; the abolition of Westminster is one of their remaining goals, after which the EU will use clause 8A-4 of the Lisbon Treaty to close down the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem Parties (together with EUCJ ruling 274/99 to close UKIP and the BNP.) The destruction of British democracy will then be 100% complete.


The EU remains illegal
Each of these six treaties are completely illegal under the British Constitution, our 1689 Bill of Rights, our treason laws, and under our common law. It is unforgivable that the Queen, her Ministers and our Parliament have committed the criminal act of treason by signing these treaties, and broken our laws to abolish our nation.
The EU will always be illegal in Britain; but once the EU has complete power and control here, we can no more get rid of it than we could Germany, had their planned illegal occupation of Britain in 1940 been successful.

No referendum
German Chancellor Merkel chose this sixth Treaty instead of pushing it through as a constitution to avoid referendums in member nations. She visited 10 Downing Street and forced Gordon Brown to cancel both his promised referendum, and his General Election.
"Anti-EU" groups have encouraged us to call for a referendum precisely because the EU has already prohibited it, and they know it will fail. The EU has ensured the leaderships of nearly all these groups have pro-EU people at the top to ensure they fail. (for example, the leaders of UKIP and the BNP, Nigel Farage and Nick Griffin, are both working for the EU.)


How to fight
One course of action is to change the minds of 70 MP's and get a majority against. MP's have been selected on the Party list system over the last 20 years to ensure an obediant majority of pro-EU MPs.
These MPs now need to understand the EU has the constitution (the six treaties) of a dictatorship, the laws of a police state, and when enforced, its 120,000 regulations will close most of our 4.5 million small businesses, make most of their 13.5 million employees unemployed, create a government command economy, soviet style: dictatorships cause poverty.

They also need to realise that MPs are the people who put this dictatorship in power. If they put it in power, they are the greatest threat to take it out of power. All dictatorships in the past have eliminated that threat. Inside the EU, the lives of MPs will be even worse than our own; at best, they are likely to be institutionalised and held against their will. (This is the only good bit - these hated traitors will suffer severely.)

Visit your MP in his surgery NOW and explain this. (Instructions top left)


Around 45 million British people are against the abolition of our nation, and with the little European voting that has been allowed, it seems clear over 200 million of its victims don’t want the EU. But we will never be given the choice. YOU have to decide to act yourself.

There are ways to stop the EU - see "Your Campaigns" on the left. Nationally, we need a General Strike, or a mass blockade of Westminster to stop our criminal MP's and Queen breaking our constitution and laws for the last time.


A General Strike, then a prosperous future
It will only take 10,000 organised and determined campaigners, or a General Strike or blockade of a million, to throw the EU clean out of Britain, to escape its oppression, poverty and wars completely, and to give ourselves a bright, free and prosperous future. This is more worth it and more urgent than you can possibly imagine.
Original 2009 article from German Parliament -.pdf for download
Then check it at the German Parliament here

Mussolini said: "Fascism (and communism) is the state collaborating with large corporations to defraud the people." That is exactly what we have seen while we've been in the EU. And in 2008, the government agreed to give the banks two thirds of our taxes (£450 billion) to bail them out from their greed and incompetence.

Then it turns a blind eye while bank and corporate directors defraud shareholders and the public, by rewarding themselves for failure, with billions in salaries and bonuses. The government, instead of seizing fraudulent bonuses, or introducing laws to give shareholders alone the power to award or withdraw bonuses, has sided with the fraudulent directors.

the nine
17-03-2009, 12:49 AM
The British constitution is under attack and is likely to be completely wiped out in favour of the EU constitution. Any British Freeman laws that previously applied will also be wiped out with the introduction of an EU European wide Police State where foreign police officers have the power to police Britain (even if the British freeman laws were to be kept then these foreign police officers would not be held accountable to obey British laws - however, this won't be the case as the British constitution as well as its laws are soon being wiped out and being replaced with EU replacements)

its wake up time for the sheeple, but I think the british will turn the other cheek, like they did with the miners, kidding themselves that they will not be affected, and also that they have a 'mortgage' to pay...:rolleyes:

tom bombadil
17-03-2009, 01:26 AM
The British constitution is under attack and is likely to be completely wiped out in favour of the EU constitution. Any British Freeman laws that previously applied will also be wiped out with the introduction of an EU European wide Police State where foreign police officers have the power to police Britain (even if the British freeman laws were to be kept then these foreign police officers would not be held accountable to obey British laws - however, this won't be the case as the British constitution as well as its laws are soon being wiped out and being replaced with EU replacements)

Hi bluman.

What do you propose?


Tom

the worm that turned
17-03-2009, 12:12 PM
OK - I am confused on two fronts.

Firstly, I was under the impression that Britain's constitution CANNOT be removed because we don't actually have an official constitution!! We have a number of rules, statutes and legislation that has been passed through common law and parliamentary legislation (via Houses of Lords and Commons and Royal Assent) over hundreds of years. If the EU wished to "takeover" Britain to enforce a constitution then we would need to have a referendum, war or it would need to be implemented as an EU Directive which would then be transposed into British Law. Perhaps I am way off the mark here, but this is how, through study, I understand things.

Secondly, the EU was the idea of the Elite that run Britain (and America) - if we are to believe the huge amount of research by the likes of David Icke and Alex Jones (plus many others). I am under the impression that Britain is required to remain a free state, within the EU, to remain the controller of the EU. Hence us only ever paying the EU lip service and not adopting the Euro. Even things like the European Convention on Human Rights was only adopted under our own terms as the Human Rights Act 1998, which in itself only requests that Judges in Britain "consider" the ECHR where necessary and if something does not meet the ECHR then a recommendation can be made to a higher court to consider it. So the power remain with Britain and I don't see it changing.

Of course, I could be very wrong and I am not arrogant enough to say that this won't be the case.

broccoligarden
17-03-2009, 01:53 PM
I found this in a NUI&COR on the internet, i cant remember the site unfortunatly,
"Whereas it is my understanding that Parliament which has no lawful authority ever to
breach, surrender, lend or transfer (even temporarily) sovereignty except when conquered in war, and
Whereas I do firmly and truly believe the signing of European Union Lisbon Treaty is an overt act of treason, and,

Whereas it is my understanding that no one (neither Monarch, nor Prime Minister, nor any prelate, politician, judge or public servant) is above the Common Law of the United Kingdom that forms the British Constitution (including Magna Carta [1215], the Declaration and Bill of Rights [1688/89], Acts of Union, Succession and Settlement
[1701-07], the Coronation Oath Act [1689])." David Allison NUI&COR

Necessary i guess, but still not sure of the power this would have in regards to EU. I would like to think that this is all we need but again my 'fear' gets the better of me sometimes. I will put this or something similar in my NUICOR, cos in my heart its right.

scotfree
17-03-2009, 03:17 PM
QUOTE "Any British Freeman laws that previously applied will also be wiped out with the introduction of an EU European wide Police State where foreign police officers have the power to police Britain"

It just so happens that I am not a Freeman of EEngland, Scotland or indeed the UK.

I am a Freeman on the Land for Eternity and Infinity.

as it says on my site :
http://www.freemanhighland.co.uk/

My NOUCOR
http://www.freemanhighland.co.uk/noucor.htm

:cool:

broccoligarden
17-03-2009, 05:34 PM
http://www.tpuc.org/node/257

Enter into lawful rebellion, affidavits 1 and 2.

Worth a try. :)

bluman
17-03-2009, 05:45 PM
http://www.tpuc.org/node/257

Enter into lawful rebellion, affidavits 1 and 2.

Worth a try. :)

Those Affidavits didn't mention a compensation fee (most freeman set the fee at around £250 per/hour)

pleasuredome
17-03-2009, 06:05 PM
The British constitution is under attack and is likely to be completely wiped out in favour of the EU constitution. Any British Freeman laws that previously applied will also be wiped out with the introduction of an EU European wide Police State where foreign police officers have the power to police Britain (even if the British freeman laws were to be kept then these foreign police officers would not be held accountable to obey British laws - however, this won't be the case as the British constitution as well as its laws are soon being wiped out and being replaced with EU replacements)

what do you mean by british freeman laws?

broccoligarden
17-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Those Affidavits didn't mention a compensation fee (most freeman set the fee at around £250 per/hour)

Why would you have a compensation fee? as far as i understand the affidavits are using article 61 of the Magna Carta to claim under Common Law of England to "Withdraw And Withhold all allegiance & obedience to the Person and Crown of Our Sovereign Lady, Elizabeth the Queen, and those who falsely claim to speak &/or to act in Her Name, and by such action, be removed entirely from the authority of those Evil Persons who now seek to abuse & misuse me in the name of Elizabeth, the Queen and in absolute violation of the Common Law of the People to which I belong"

The compensation fee may be included in your NOUCOR if you are wrongly detained by the police, but this is entirely different to that.
If you think otherwise please let me know.
:)

bluman
17-03-2009, 06:35 PM
Why would you have a compensation fee? as far as i understand the affidavits are using article 61 of the Magna Carta to claim under Common Law of England to "Withdraw And Withhold all allegiance & obedience to the Person and Crown of Our Sovereign Lady, Elizabeth the Queen, and those who falsely claim to speak &/or to act in Her Name, and by such action, be removed entirely from the authority of those Evil Persons who now seek to abuse & misuse me in the name of Elizabeth, the Queen and in absolute violation of the Common Law of the People to which I belong"

The compensation fee may be included in your NOUCOR if you are wrongly detained by the police, but this is entirely different to that.
If you think otherwise please let me know.
:)

By compesnation fee I meant 'wrongly detained by the police', forgive me for my laymenization.



what do you mean by british freeman laws?


Common law.

An EU wide super police force composed mainly of armed foregin police troops, some that probably barely speak English, will not respect any common law of Britain due to not being held accountable to any of our common laws, so long as it does not confict with the EU constitution.

yozhik
17-03-2009, 06:39 PM
I get very, VERY nervous whenever I see "freedom" and "Magna Carta" in the same sentence.

It was never written for or on behalf of, every man, woman and their offspring. It was a contract, written by the elite for the elite and signed under duress by a King without land (John sans terre), who had already surrendered his realm to the Vatican.

Also, whenever it is referred to in any article or document or forum post; does the author point to the Magna Carta (the treaty) or the Magna Carta (the codified statute)?
A statute can be repealed; a treaty cannot.


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scotfree
17-03-2009, 07:30 PM
FREEMEN can do / say ANYTHING

Magna Carta was just a bit of paper or summit which when a match is applied, like ALL bits of paper, laws, statutes, becomes so much hot air.

Is the concept of Freedom so alien to some people that they referance bits of paper or parchment. WHY?

broccoligarden
18-03-2009, 09:11 AM
FREEMEN can do / say ANYTHING

Magna Carta was just a bit of paper or summit which when a match is applied, like ALL bits of paper, laws, statutes, becomes so much hot air.

Is the concept of Freedom so alien to some people that they reference bits of paper or parchment. WHY?

The Magna Carta may mean nothing and yes it was written for the Barons and not every day folk, the only reason i mentioned it was because its a nice way to voice an opinion, thats all.
Its time for some action in regards to the EU and its direct breach of the British Constitution and this is a very non violent respectful approach.
If we cant vote against it what else can we do?

I also like Albert Burgess's approach- reporting Edward Heath gov for treason to police authorities!

Maybe its not that the concept of freedom is alien to us, but how we get others to recognise our freedom and let us be. I think i see my way through, and others are finding theirs.

bluman
19-03-2009, 04:49 AM
bump

yozhik
19-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Please remember, there were TWO Magna Carta documents. :)
It's very important to distinguish the two.
The original Magna Carta 1215 was a Treaty.
The second Magna Carta 1297 was a codified statute of the Treaty.

It is the statute that can be repealed and altered.
The Treaty can not be repealed; only statutes can.