War on drugs or war on Blacks?

[voodoo]

War on drugs or war on Blacks?
By FinalCall.com News
Updated Mar 12, 2009, 01:17 pm




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‘‘Jim Crow may be dead, but the drug war has never been color-blind,” “Although Whites and Blacks use and sell drugs, the heavy hand of the law is more likely to fall on Black shoulders.’’
—Jamie Fellner,
Senior counsel with Human Rights Watch’s U.S. Program and author of the report
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WASHINGTON (FinalCall.com) - Blacks have been arrested nationwide on drug charges at higher rates than whites for nearly three decades, even though they engage in drug offenses at comparable rates, Human Rights Watch said in a recent report.
Using data obtained from the FBI, the report reveals the extent and persistence of racial disparities in U.S. drug-law enforcement. The data also show that most drug arrests are for nothing more serious than possession, said researchers.

The 20-page report, “Decades of Disparity: Drug Arrests and Race in the United States,” reveals that adult Blacks were arrested on drug charges at rates that were 2.8 to 5.5 times as high as those of White adults in every year from 1980 through 2007, the last year for which complete data were available. “About one in three of the more than 25.4 million adult drug arrestees during that period was African American,” said Human Rights Watch.

“Jim Crow may be dead, but the drug war has never been color-blind,” said Jamie Fellner, senior counsel with Human Rights Watch’s U.S. Program and author of the report. “Although Whites and Blacks use and sell drugs, the heavy hand of the law is more likely to fall on Black shoulders.”

The report also says that arrests for drug possession have greatly exceeded arrests for drug sales every year since 1980. “Indeed, the proportion of drug arrests for possession has been increasing, amounting to 80 percent or more annually since 1999. Marijuana possession accounts for a large proportion of drug arrests: in the years 2000 through 2007, the proportion of all drug arrests that was for marijuana possession ranged from 37.7 percent to 42.1 percent,” said researchers.

The report, released March 2, is the latest by Human Rights Watch exploring human rights violations, including racial discrimination, in the context of the “war on drugs.”

“Hauling hundreds of thousands of people down to the station house each year because they have some weed or a rock of crack cocaine in their pocket has had little impact on drug use,” said Atty. Fellner. “But the stigma of a drug arrest, especially if followed by a conviction, limits employment, education and housing opportunities. A more effective, less destructive drug policy would prioritize treatment, education, and positive social investments in poor communities over arrest and incarceration.”

[opulentview]

It's not just black although I don't think there is any empathy for their plight. Drugs don't discriminate as long as everyone is hopped up on drugs legal and illegal it gives the manueuvers a chance to work with everyone distracted and make a healthy profit of the drugs being sold.

[voodoo]

It's not just black although I don't think there is any empathy for their plight. Drugs don't discriminate as long as everyone is hopped up on drugs legal and illegal it gives the manueuvers a chance to work with everyone distracted and make a healthy profit of the drugs being sold.

Noone said just black blacks just happend to be more targeted then whites, nothing new

[honey_beez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldAnV-r4neo

Just listen to what this guy on this subject lol!!

[kingmonkey]

I'd say the drugs trade is aimed at and effects the lower classes in society indiscriminately, but the police forces certainly target the black population more.

[honey_beez]

i'd say the drugs trade is aimed at and effects the lower classes in society indiscriminately, but the police forces certainly target the black population more.

why?

;)

[motleyhoo]

The blacks are just easier to get to 1) they are already coraled in urban areas, and 2) the urban areas are where the govt drug cartel is dumping its load. It's much more efficient an operation that way.

It's a two fold plan for them. Keep the blacks in a hopeless situation so we can keep them killing each other, and so we can keep the beds filled at our publicly-traded private prisons.

[sorath]

Sounds like this is intended to stir something up.

[kingmonkey]

why?

;)


I'd agree with what motleyhoo said.There are forces at work that definitely want to keep black people down. I'd add that Black people (in this case) or people who are alienated in some way from their heritage/background are susceptible to problems with substances. Drugs like coke/crack in particular (temporarily) help fill holes in people's souls and alcohol just masks the problems.

Another example of this would be the Native Americans, or to a lesser extent the English, although for different reasons (I think in England's case it's a mass identity problem.)

[voodoo]

Sounds like this is intended to stir something up.

Its a news article thats it from my part anyways.
Im tired of arguing.

[honey_beez]

I'd agree with what motleyhoo said.There are forces at work that definitely want to keep black people down. I'd add that Black people (in this case) or people who are alienated in some way from their heritage/background are susceptible to problems with substances. Drugs like coke/crack in particular (temporarily) help fill holes in people's souls and alcohol just masks the problems.

Another example of this would be the Native Americans, or to a lesser extent the English, although for different reasons (I think in England's case it's a mass identity problem.)

Yes but he/she does not explain the problem behind the problem behind the problem.

I think there is a problem but this is an illusion spun up to trap people to lower thier vibrations.

But WHY specifically melanin dominant beings? It's got nothing to do with racism. Racism was created to supress something that melanin dominant beings have that they want but can't have!

[honey_beez]

Sounds like this is intended to stir something up.

That was not voodoo's intention. It is something that must be brought up and whether you want to discuss this or not is up to you. So unless you have a valuable contribution to make then please refrain from spinning illusions of 'stirring things up' because that is what you want to do.;)

[voodoo]

Secret ties between CIA, drugs revealed
By Rosalind Muhammad
West Coast Bureau Chief
Originally Published, 1996

Updated May 9, 2006, 08:15 pm
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For nearly a decade the CIA, helped spread crack cocaine in Black ghettos


The Complete Archive of Gary Webb's Explosive Series: "Dark Alliance" (NarcoNews)
LOS ANGELES (FinalCall.com) - New evidence has surfaced linking the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency to the introduction of crack cocaine into Black neighborhoods with drug profits used to fund the CIA-backed Nicaraguan Contra army in the early 1980s.

This evidence has given credence to long-held suspicions of the U.S. government's role in undermining Black communities.

According to a series of groundbreaking reports by the San Jose Mercury News, for the better part of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring, comprised of CIA and U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency agents and informants, sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles.

Millions of dollars in drug profits were then funneled to the Fuerza Democratica Nicaraguense (Nicaraguan Democratic Force), the largest of several anti-Communists commonly called the Contras. The 5,000-man FDN was created in mid-1981 and run by both American and Nicaraguan CIA agents in its losing war against Nicaragua's Sandinista government, the Cuban-supported socialists who had overthrown U.S.-backed dictator Anastasio Somoza in 1979.

This CIA-backed drug network opened the first pipeline between Columbia's cocaine cartels and the Black neighborhoods of Compton and Los Angeles, according to the Mercury News.

In time, the cocaine that flooded Los Angeles helped spark a "crack explosion" in urban America and provided the cash and connections needed for Los Angeles's gangs to buy Uzi sub-machine guns, AK-47 rifles, and other assault weapons that would fuel deadly gang turf wars, drive-by shootings, murders and robberies -- courtesy of the U.S. government, according to the article.

"While the FDN's war is barely a memory today, Black America is still dealing with its poisonous side effects. Urban neighborhoods are grappling with legions of homeless crack addicts. Thousands of young Black men are serving long prison sentences for selling cocaine -- a drug that was virtually unobtainable in Black neighborhoods before members of the CIA's army started bring it into South Central in the 1980s at bargain basement prices," wrote Mercury News reporter Gary Webb, in the first installment of the shocking series of reports.

Although the Mercury News details the activities of numerous Nicaraguan and American informants and ties involved in the drug-gun trade, three men are cited as key players: Norwin Meneses, a Nicaraguan smuggler and FDN boss; Danilo Blandon, a cocaine supplier, top FDN civilian leader in California, and DEA informant; and Ricky Donnell Ross, a South Central Los Angeles high school dropout and drug trafficker of mythic proportions, who was Mr. Blandon's biggest customer.

According to the Mercury News article, for the better part of a decade, "Freeway Rick," as he was nicknamed, was unaware of his supplier's military and political connections.

But together, the trio was directly and indirectly responsible for introducing and selling crack cocaine as far away as Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Dayton and St. Louis.

Ricky Ross' street connections, ability to obtain cocaine at low prices and deals that allowed him to receive drugs from Contra-CIA operatives with no money upfront helped him to undercut other dealers and quickly spread crack. He also sold crack wholesale to gangs across the country, said the Mercury News report.

Most of the information surrounding the CIA's involvement in the crack trade came from testimony in the March drug trafficking trial of Mr. Ross, 36, who, along with two other men were convicted of cocaine conspiracy charges in San Diego.

A federal judge indefinitely postponed Mr. Ross's Aug. 23 sentencing to grant his lawyer time to try to show that federal authorities misused DEA agent Mr. Blandon to entrap Mr. Ross in a "reverse" sting last year. Mr. Ross could receive life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Records show that Mr. Ross was still behind bars in Cincinnati in 1994, awaiting parole, when San Diego DEA agents targeted him for the reverse sting-- one in which government agents provide the drugs and the target provides the cash.

Though Mr. Blandon has admitted to crimes that have sent others away for life, the U.S. Justice Department turned him loose on unsupervised probation in 1994 after only 28 months behind bars and has paid him more than $166,000 since, court records show.

Mr. Blandon's boss in the FDN's cocaine operation, Norwin Meneses, has never spent a day in a U.S. prison, even though the federal government has been aware of his cocaine dealings since at least 1974, according to the Mercury News article.

For years, writers, authors, activists, gang members and others have implicated the U.S. government in the deadly crack cocaine-gun trade.

Many have charged the U.S. government with supplying gang members with these tools in an effort to undermine and eradicate the Black community through wanton murder, drug addiction and crime.

Some believe crack did not become an "American problem" until the drug began hitting white neighborhoods and affecting white children.

On Aug. 23, the Los Angeles City Council, responding to pressure by the Los Angeles Chapter of the Black American Political Association of California (BAPAC), asked U.S. Atty. Janet Reno to investigate the government's involvement in the alleged sale of illegal street drugs in Los Angeles' Black community to support the CIA-backed Contras.

BAPAC vice chairman Glen Brown told The Final Call that a federal agency monitored by a civilian advisory board is one way the government could investigate the matter because "we can't have people who are responsible for this investigate themselves."

BAPAC, a statewide coalition of political activists, has also demanded that the U.S. government provide the necessary funding, materials and labor to rebuild urban areas destroyed by crack cocaine, as well as the necessary medical care, education, counseling, and vocational training to restore shattered lives.

Long-term Los Angeles activists Chilton Alphonse, founder of the Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation, which aids former gang members, said he briefly assisted Ricky Ross when the drug dealer was paroled from prison inn October 1994, after serving about half of a 10-year prison sentence in Cincinnati in exchange for his testimony against corrupt Los Angeles police detectives.

"He came back to Los Angeles and tried to get his life together," Mr. Alphonse said. "Rick was a legend in the streets. But he flipped (testified against law enforcement officers). He said they used him to skim money from him."

Mr. Alphonse was referring to Mr. Ross's 1991 testimony against Los Angeles Police Department narcotics detectives who had been fired or indicted along with dozens of deputies from the Los Angeles County sheriff's elite narcotics squads for allegedly beating suspects, stealing drug money and planting evidence.

Mr. Alphonse, who now resides in Alabama, said he has warned for years that the flood of crack cocaine and assault weapons into the Black community was not the doing of the Bloods and Crips.

"Inner city youth don't have the resources to manufacture cocaine or ship in guns," Mr. Alphonse said.

Others agree.

In December 1989, while head of the NAACP Los Angeles Chapter, Anthony A. Samad (then Anthony Essex) announced his findings that some Bloods and Crips members had implicated the U.S. government in the ruthless crack and assault weapons trade among Los Angeles street gangs. Mr. Samad said that he learned this after extensive interviews with gang members housed in Los Angeles County Jail. But he was largely ignored by Black elected officials, he said who sided with law enforcement.

"Gang members charged then that gang rivalry and drug wars were being perpetuated by the police and the government," said Mr. Samad, who is now president of Samad & Associates, a consulting firm.

Henry Stuckey, of Stop the Violence/Increase the Peace, said that government involvement in community drug trafficking was common knowledge in some circles.

"Obviously African American males didn't have planes and boats to move the guns and narcotics into the Black community." Mr. Stuckey said.

Mr. Stuckey said that Black and Latino youths must be appraised of the government's involvement in order to understand that their communities will continue to be the dumping grounds for guns and drugs unless the youths "do for self."

"I do think that the blame that was laid on the gangs was wrong," Mr. Stuckey said. "But I can't say that it vindicates them for their actions because they had a choice in the matter. (Still) it's horrible that the government targeted our youth."

Roland Freeman, a spokesperson for the Los Angeles Chapter of the International Campaign to Free Geronimo Pratt, is a former member of the Black Panther Party. The BPP was targeted and ultimately nullified by FBI counterintelligence programs.

Mr. Freeman said he knows firsthand of the deceit of which the government is capable; a government, he said, that tries to "set itself up as if it's higher than God when really it's lower than the devil."

"(They put) small pox in the Indian's blankets and gave them fire water," Mr. Freeman said. "They make drugs available to Blacks and other minorities. It only surprises me that (the CIA) got caught."

[voodoo]

‘Drug war’ tainted by race
By Jesse Muhammad
Staff Writer


New reports show how enforcement focused on Black men, women and neighborhoods

War on drugs: a complete failure (FCN, 09-03-2007)
Secret ties between CIA, drugs revealed (FCN, 1996/2006)
Black Youth Marked For Death By U.S. Government (FCN, 04-22-2008)


Though Whites are the majority of drug users, Blacks have been targets of the ‘War On Drugs’.
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The key findings in the Human Rights Watch report were that across the 34 states, a Black man is 11.8 times more likely than a White man to be sent to prison on drug charges, and a Black woman is 4.8 times more likely than a White woman; in 16 states, Blacks are sent to prison for drug offenses at rates between 10 and 42 times greater than the rate for Whites.
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(FinalCall.com) - National reports detailing racial disparities in arrests and imprisonment were recently released by the Human Rights Watch and The Sentencing Project. The groups wanted to show that the “war on drugs” disproportionately targets urban youth, and is in dire need of reform since its inception during Ronald Reagan’s administration.

“Most drug offenders are White, but most of the drug offenders sent to prison are Black,” said Jamie Fellner, senior counsel in the U.S. program at Human Rights Watch. “The solution is not to imprison more Whites but to radically rethink how to deal with drug abuse and low-level drug offenders.”

Although Whites commit more drug offenses, Blacks are arrested and imprisoned on drug charges at much higher rates, the reports found. Atty. Fellner authored the 67-page report titled “Targeting Blacks: Drug Law Enforcement and Race in the United States.” The report presents new evidence of persistent racial disparities among drug offenders sent to prison in 34 states. All of these states send Black drug offenders to prison at much higher rates than Whites.

The key findings in the Human Rights Watch report were that across the 34 states, a Black man is 11.8 times more likely than a White man to be sent to prison on drug charges, and a Black woman is 4.8 times more likely than a White woman; in 16 states, Blacks are sent to prison for drug offenses at rates between 10 and 42 times greater than the rate for Whites.

The 10 states with the greatest racial disparities in prison admissions for drug offenders are: Wisconsin, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, West Virginia, Colorado, New York, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

According to The Sentencing Project, its 45-page study titled “Disparity by Geography: The War on Drugs in America’s Cities,” it is the first city-level analysis of drug arrests, examining data from 43 of the nation’s largest cities between 1980 and 2003. The study found that, since 1980, the rate of drug arrests in American cities for Blacks increased by 225 percent, compared to 70 percent among Whites. Black arrest rates grew by more than 500 percent in 11 cities during this period and, in nearly half of the cities, the odds of arrest for a drug offense among Blacks relative to Whites more than doubled.

“The alarming increase in drug arrests since 1980, concentrated among African Americans, raises fundamental questions about fairness and justice,” said Ryan S. King, policy analyst for The Sentencing Project. “But even more troubling is the fact that these trends come not as the result of higher rates of drug use among African Americans, but, instead, the decisions by local officials about where to pursue drug enforcement.”

The Sentencing Project report’s critical findings:

• Black drug arrests increased at 3.4 times the rate of Whites despite similar rates of drug use;

• Extreme city variations in drug arrests point to local enforcement decisions as a prime contributor to racial disparity;

• Six cities experienced more than a 500-percent rise in overall drug arrests between 1980 and 2003: Tucson (887 percent), Buffalo (809 percent), Kansas City (736 percent), Toledo (701 percent), Newark (663 percent), and Sacramento (597 percent).

‘Perfect storm’ pushes tough laws over prevention

According to research by the Human Rights Watch, since the early 1980s, when the Reagan administration launched the “war on drugs,” the federal and state measures targeting the use and sale of drugs have emphasized arrest and incarceration rather than prevention and treatment. The impact on the criminal justice system has been dramatic. Between 1980 and 2006, arrests for drug offenses more than tripled, rising from 581,000 arrests in 1980 to 1.8 million in 2006.

The report notes that the war on drugs was part of a larger “tough on crime” policy approach whose advocates believed harsh mandatory punishments were needed to restore law and order. Many factors beyond drug use and abuse encouraged politicians and public officials to embrace tough mandatory sentences for drug crimes, including the deterioration of inner cities, racial tensions, fear of crime, an unwillingness to tackle social inequalities, the willingness to use crime as a partisan issue, and intense media pressure.

What a group of leading criminologists have called a “perfect storm” drove the imprisonment binge.

New laws increased the likelihood of a prison sentence even for low-level offenses, increased the length of prison sentences, and required prisoners to serve a greater proportion of their sentences.

This occurred for drug offenses as well as crimes of violence. In particular, laws establishing mandatory minimum sentences for drug law violations were enacted that replaced judicial discretion with fixed sentences determined by one or two factors.

The report contends that one result of the new drug laws was a soaring prison population, as greater proportions of drug offenders received prison sentences and the length of incarceration increased. Between 1980 and 1998 the total number of new admissions of drug offenders to state and federal prison exceeded 1.5 million. Between 1980 and 2003 the number of drug offenders in state prisons grew twelvefold. In 2006 an estimated 248,547 men and women were serving time in state prisons for drug offenses, constituting 19.5 percent of all state prisoners.

Grassroots campaign to change policy

The Sentencing Project and Human Rights Watch are urging public officials to restore fairness, racial justice, and credibility to drug control efforts.

Sentencing Project executive director Marc Mauer sees a need for grassroots pressure.

“We want to link with grassroots organizations within every city that has power to apply pressure on city officials in regards to developing more human approaches in sentencings,” said Mr. Mauer.

His group and Human Rights Watch recommend public officials take a number of concrete steps, including eliminating mandatory minimum sentences and restoring judicial discretion to sentencing of drug offenders. Public funding of substance abuse treatment and prevention outreach, particularly communities of color, needs to be increased and public health-based strategies to reduce harms associated with drug abuse need to be increased, he added.

A comprehensive analysis of racial disparities in all phases of drug law enforcement—from arrests through incarceration—needs to be done and stakeholders brought together to find ways to ensure drug laws and enforcement do not disproportionately burden Black communities, Mr. Mauer said.

[voodoo]

http://www.gnn.tv/videos/viewer.php?id=1&n=1

[voodoo]

http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

[octopusrex]

FUCK THAT MAN!

Lots of peckerwoods and southsiders are in the slammer for the same shit.
Give me a break.

[sorath]

That was not voodoo's intention. It is something that must be brought up and whether you want to discuss this or not is up to you. So unless you have a valuable contribution to make then please refrain from spinning illusions of 'stirring things up' because that is what you want to do.;)


I actually didn't mean the OP but the article. I think that it is supposed to stir up racial tension, for some unknown result. Black people probably do get arrested in higher numbers for drug related offenses than whites. This is just 1 injustice out of far to many.

The divide and conquer senario being played out perfectly. The issue isn't the skin colour of those arrested but the actual drug arrest!

[motleyhoo]

It is no coincidence that 3 things happened at the same time back in the '90s - the privatization of the prison system, Clinton's 100,000 new cops on the street program, and the introduction of crack cocaine into the American cities. Still today they cannot build prisons fast enough to hold all the people. And the private companies building, maintaining, and managing all these prisons and prisoners are making billions of $$$.

It is also not a coincidence that the prison system is mostly owned by KBR and the Carlyle Group. These are the same companies involved with building and maintaining Abu Ghraib and the Guantanamo detention centers, and they are the same companies building the FEMA camps. When you buy their stocks (and most people hold them in their 401Ks and mutual funds) you are buying into a system of drug dealing, detention, torture, terror, and death. Most people with a retirement account in America are buying into this system without even knowing it. If you try to tell them about it they won't listen, because they don't want to know they could be part of that, and they don't even want know that "that" actually exists. They just want to hear how great America is.

[kingmonkey]

Exactly...It's just a shame these things (for the most part) don't get discussed in wider circles than on conspiracy forums.

[lumukanda]

i can't comment on america or britain, but i know for a fact that the drug mandrax was deliberately introduced into coloured (mixed race south africans) areas by the security police in south africa in order to keep them drugged up and not caring about the political situation.
it's a pretty old fucking trick, look at what the british managed to achieve with opium in china...

[decode reality]

I was gonna say much the same as Lumukanda! It's part of the elite's ongoing onslaught against black people, the omission/distortion of the African image for generations by the system. They have to keep us unaware of our heritage that they nicked and perverted in their masonic symbolism- and drug addiction is the another nail in the coffin. It's about making sure that the sleeping giant in us all remains asleep, so they push it on us all, to different degrees. The system creates addicts of all ethnicities in general, I'm just pointing out a specific reason of why black folks get targetted.

[honey_beez]

I actually didn't mean the OP but the article. I think that it is supposed to stir up racial tension, for some unknown result. Black people probably do get arrested in higher numbers for drug related offenses than whites. This is just 1 injustice out of far to many.

The divide and conquer senario being played out perfectly. The issue isn't the skin colour of those arrested but the actual drug arrest!

You sure about that?

[angel wings]

Exactly...It's just a shame these things (for the most part) don't get discussed in wider circles than on conspiracy forums.

Very true indeed, the mainstream ignore this but it is a very widespread issue.

[honey_beez]

It is no coincidence that 3 things happened at the same time back in the '90s - the privatization of the prison system, Clinton's 100,000 new cops on the street program, and the introduction of crack cocaine into the American cities. Still today they cannot build prisons fast enough to hold all the people. And the private companies building, maintaining, and managing all these prisons and prisoners are making billions of $$$.

It is also not a coincidence that the prison system is mostly owned by KBR and the Carlyle Group. These are the same companies involved with building and maintaining Abu Ghraib and the Guantanamo detention centers, and they are the same companies building the FEMA camps. When you buy their stocks (and most people hold them in their 401Ks and mutual funds) you are buying into a system of drug dealing, detention, torture, terror, and death. Most people with a retirement account in America are buying into this system without even knowing it. If you try to tell them about it they won't listen, because they don't want to know they could be part of that, and they don't even want know that "that" actually exists. They just want to hear how great America is.

It's Fucked Up!!

i can't comment on america or britain, but i know for a fact that the drug mandrax was deliberately introduced into coloured (mixed race south africans) areas by the security police in south africa in order to keep them drugged up and not caring about the political situation.
it's a pretty old fucking trick, look at what the british managed to achieve with opium in china...

It's not suprising whats happening in the Saffa community, and no wonder the crime rate is so high! That mandrax is one filthy drug!!
I still can't wrap my butt around the whole system of 26, 27 and 28s all I know is that the 28's run Cape Town and they are working with the police. It's a whole fucked up system down here!
If you research South African Airways route map you will see how drugs get spread around Afrika. SAA has majority shares on all Afrikan routes. Also the drug bust going on at the moment. Right after the drug busts the UK announced we need visas just to visit the dumpy place lol :rolleyes:

I was gonna say much the same as Lumukanda! It's part of the elite's ongoing onslaught against black people, the omission/distortion of the African image for generations by the system. They have to keep us unaware of our heritage that they nicked and perverted in their masonic symbolism- and drug addiction is the another nail in the coffin. It's about making sure that the sleeping giant in us all remains asleep, so they push it on us all, to different degrees. The system creates addicts of all ethnicities in general, I'm just pointing out a specific reason of why black folks get targetted.

DAMN

You know you write so sexy?:p

That statement in bold blue says it all!!!

[decode reality]

It's Fucked Up!!



It's not suprising whats happening in the Saffa community, and no wonder the crime rate is so high! That mandrax is one filthy drug!!
I still can't wrap my butt around the whole system of 26, 27 and 28s all I know is that the 28's run Cape Town and they are working with the police. It's a whole fucked up system down here!
If you research South African Airways route map you will see how drugs get spread around Afrika. SAA has majority shares on all Afrikan routes. Also the drug bust going on at the moment. Right after the drug busts the UK announced we need visas just to visit the dumpy place lol :rolleyes:



DAMN

You know you write so sexy?:p

That statement in bold blue says it all!!!

Aw shucks...:D

[meksar]

Well over here in the UK they have just put weed up to class b which can result in a maximum sentence of 5 years for possession. The whole drug system is designed to keep the lower classes in the criminal and prison system. They knew that cocaine was too expensive to become popular in the ghetto's and created crack to really increase crime in the inner city slums.

The people who suffer the most from the drug trade are the citizens that live in countries where they are grown. How many people have been killed in Afghanistan so the elite can control the poppy fields?. Also all of the manipulated civil wars in South and Central America were primarily done by the CIA to further their grip on the cocaine market.

[motleyhoo]

Aw shucks...:D

Love your music, man. Don't ever stop!

[honey_beez]

Love your music, man. Don't ever stop!

Don't let us fight over a very eloquent man in a forum!! I don't wanna pull out my vaseline and razors!!

[mikethepunk]

This is bullshit!
Drugs and drug laws are color blind!

It just happens that many black people sell drugs or use drugs or whatever and are repeat violent offenders that get caught because they hang out on the street all night selling them or using them. while most whites buy or sell and use the drugs out of their homes.

They didn't start these laws to get rid of the blacks...they were started to wage war on all of us. it just happens to be that there is a higher percentage of black users and dealers putting themselves in positions to get caught.

Dont forget about the Hispanics and Latinos that are also always getting caught selling or using, they are not black but there are just as many in prison for drug related offenses.

Gangs are also a huge part of this. Drugs are the number one business of US gangs and most if not all of the gangs are black or Hispanic-hence more black and hispanic prisoners.

Everyone has a choice, whether they are poor or not, to sell or use drugs. It gets harder to say no when your whole family is involved or your whole neighborhood.

I used china white heroin for many, many, many years on the east coast of America and in Austria when I was there. I have seen things that most on this board probably have not seen. Let me tell you almost ALL of the people I bought heroin from were Hispanic or black. Whole families were into selling it. I never went to jail because of my heroin addiction because I used the drugs in my home and I was smart about how, when and where I bought them. Plus I didn't steal for my drugs, i worked for them. (FYI-I have been clean of narcotics for 8 years). Lots of people that get caught with drugs are many times committing another crime with drugs on them.

Drugs and drug addiction does not discriminate. the title of this thread is lie to further divide us and take us further away from the truth of the matter.

[meksar]

This stuff goes much further than most people think,this is just one of many coldly calculated aspects of the "Ordo ab Chao" agenda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBjDFH7QLc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6xEM-IqPVg&feature=related

[mikethepunk]

It makes sense that the Elite would run the gangs. How else would they get their weapons and cache's full of drugs to sell and use.

[octopusrex]

POLITICAL PRISONERS ALL OF THEM!:mad:

[supertzar]

After reading a few pages of the thread I'd like to say it's probably because brown and black skinned people are harder to mind control. They know bullshit when they see it and that is why they are targeted.

To mikethepunk, Gary Webb exposed how crack was being funneled into black LA neighborhoods by the CIA. I saw him speak about it and three months later he was found to have slit both his wrists in a bathtub. Obviously there is a program to try to destroy black lives and black culture with drugs.

[anthony65]

I was just reading David Ickes "Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center". Excellent read! :)

In the first few chapters he covers the background to the crime that was 9/11 and among the many characters and events he describes is the Iran / Contra affair.

Weapons to Iran, hostages set free, support to the Contras, drugs sent to the USA, especially crack cocaine to black areas...

And all with the blessing of Reagan and Daddy Bush, but especially Daddy Bush!

I would say that a higher proportion of blacks are spiritual in the sense that they live beyond the 5 sense existence.

In Europe, the witch hunts of the middle ages served to exterminate many of those with extra sensory talents.

** David actually mentions something similar to this in the book (in the final chapter I think).

[father ted]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldAnV-r4neo

Just listen to what this guy on this subject lol!!

Black guys should hang out with white folks more often to be safe. ;):D

For example, let your white friends drive the car, stay in the backseat.

[sorath]

You sure about that?

Well I am pretty sure that there is racism in the police forces of the world. My point was that it doesn't matter if you are black and being arrested for drugs possession or white. I think it is wrong that people are arrested for having drugs on them full stop, regardless of colour.

[honey_beez]

Well I am pretty sure that there is racism in the police forces of the world. My point was that it doesn't matter if you are black and being arrested for drugs possession or white. I think it is wrong that people are arrested for having drugs on them full stop, regardless of colour.

I understand your view and to a degree it is true.

Your post:

I actually didn't mean the OP but the article. I think that it is supposed to stir up racial tension, for some unknown result. Black people probably do get arrested in higher numbers for drug related offenses than whites. This is just 1 injustice out of far to many.

The divide and conquer senario being played out perfectly. The issue isn't the skin colour of those arrested but the actual drug arrest!

It's not about drugs it is about the skin colour, if it wasn't they would follow the same protocols for white people. They however do follow a different protocol for whites. If we are were really all equal under the 'law' then they would also arrest white people living in ghettos in the same amounts as they would blacks.

It's not about the drugs! It is about that velvetly sexy pigment.

When a black man murders a white it reaches front pages and all the white people huddle up and start casting stones, if a white man (Go back in HIS-story till the present time) murders then the court deems him as psychologically impaired. (This is not to stir up anyone but a fact).
Most white people if they see a black person, he must be a gangster on crack, oh and he's a thief. Trust me this happens alot even with the so called liberal white people who are colour blind to the spiritual race war.
That menatlity rubbed off on me as a black person, I was systematically taught that I am inferior and also other blacks are too, they will steal if they get a chance or shoot you. Now where does that mentality come from, I learned it from my family but where did they learn it?

On another note, black people are not easy to control, they really tried hard and they have not been successful as they have only put Black people into a numb silent slumber, stripped them of thier heritage which is so diverse and magnificient, gave them a religion which was not thiers and made it thier own and then taught them to hate thier own people!

The walls are coming down and that is bad for the West. If the people here and trust me we will stand up with the help of those lost to the West, when we reclaim our liberation and our land what would happen to Europe? How will you build the bombs, the cellphones etc

Also what would most white people do if the Native Indians from the Americas also stand up and boot out the evil people?
The Aboriginals from Austrailia and other countries that are under a white slumber, how would Europe cope? You do not have the resources to sustain the white minority. Your lives today are so dependant on Poor BUT VERY RICH countries. So it's a whole complicated system but one I know my people are going to fight and are equipped to do so.
I love white people, I do not hate them, I however dislike the system they created to enslave everyone.

I am a child of Yah, I am a decendant of the Elohim, I am a God because within my veins run a Ancient Blood and that runs through everyone who is an Afrikan decendant and Afrikan.

What I love about being a Being of Colour is through our adversity we can alway put a smile on our face, laugh, dance and share that little bread and water with warmth in our hearts. I have never in my whole life felt such hue-mane energy from a white person and that is my truth. I am correcting myself and helping my people to gain a better understanding of who and what we are!

I am grateful and so happy to be living in this time where I can see this Empire fall and it's people come to it's knees, I know that Yah will spill his love in this world into each and everyone of us especially those that were beaten, hanged, raped, mutilated and spat on for thier beautiful velvet coloured skin.

Hotep

[motleyhoo]

How will you build the bombs, the cellphones etc


Chinese slaves making $0.50 per day. Because after all, we don't need no stinking jobs. Just give me my Bernanke Bucks and leave me alone. :eek:

[sloughi]

Sounds like this is intended to stir something up.
Good you pointed it out. In the last David Icke forum Nation of Islam members and followers of Black Islam started arguments like this to drain the board of excitement. They have a much better shot at this forum than our form that has been shut down.

[anthony65]

I understand your view and to a degree it is true.

Your post:



It's not about drugs it is about the skin colour, if it wasn't they would follow the same protocols for white people. They however do follow a different protocol for whites. If we are were really all equal under the 'law' then they would also arrest white people living in ghettos in the same amounts as they would blacks.

It's not about the drugs! It is about that velvetly sexy pigment.

When a black man murders a white it reaches front pages and all the white people huddle up and start casting stones, if a white man (Go back in HIS-story till the present time) murders then the court deems him as psychologically impaired. (This is not to stir up anyone but a fact).
Most white people if they see a black person, he must be a gangster on crack, oh and he's a thief. Trust me this happens alot even with the so called liberal white people who are colour blind to the spiritual race war.
That menatlity rubbed off on me as a black person, I was systematically taught that I am inferior and also other blacks are too, they will steal if they get a chance or shoot you. Now where does that mentality come from, I learned it from my family but where did they learn it?

On another note, black people are not easy to control, they really tried hard and they have not been successful as they have only put Black people into a numb silent slumber, stripped them of thier heritage which is so diverse and magnificient, gave them a religion which was not thiers and made it thier own and then taught them to hate thier own people!

The walls are coming down and that is bad for the West. If the people here and trust me we will stand up with the help of those lost to the West, when we reclaim our liberation and our land what would happen to Europe? How will you build the bombs, the cellphones etc

Also what would most white people do if the Native Indians from the Americas also stand up and boot out the evil people?
The Aboriginals from Austrailia and other countries that are under a white slumber, how would Europe cope? You do not have the resources to sustain the white minority. Your lives today are so dependant on Poor BUT VERY RICH countries. So it's a whole complicated system but one I know my people are going to fight and are equipped to do so.
I love white people, I do not hate them, I however dislike the system they created to enslave everyone.

I am a child of Yah, I am a decendant of the Elohim, I am a God because within my veins run a Ancient Blood and that runs through everyone who is an Afrikan decendant and Afrikan.

What I love about being a Being of Colour is through our adversity we can alway put a smile on our face, laugh, dance and share that little bread and water with warmth in our hearts. I have never in my whole life felt such hue-mane energy from a white person and that is my truth. I am correcting myself and helping my people to gain a better understanding of who and what we are!

I am grateful and so happy to be living in this time where I can see this Empire fall and it's people come to it's knees, I know that Yah will spill his love in this world into each and everyone of us especially those that were beaten, hanged, raped, mutilated and spat on for thier beautiful velvet coloured skin.

Hotep

I hope very much that black, brown, red and yellow people are freed from evil and tyranny. I also hope the same for white people.

But posts like this one are more likely to create division that bring people together.

I agree with a lot of what you write, but you lose me when you portray whites as the eternal oppressors and blacks as the eternal victims.

Whites are also victims.

They were spiritually raped a long time ago.

Read up the accounts of how the Romans conquered Gaul. How Christianity was brutally enforced in ancient Germany where whole tribes were murdered and their spiritual heritage destroyed.

Wasn't this just an earlier example of what happened later in Africa, South America, Australia, etc.?

There has been an ongoing, systematic action to destroy all spirituality throughout the world.

We are all victims of the off world entities and their 3 dimensional agents.

I've written many times before that I believe that black people are spiritually stronger than most whites and as I wrote above, much of this is to do with the systematic murder of any whites who showed more than 5 sense abilities over countless generations.

I've spoken to Africans I've met and discussed this. I believe that they can set an example in humanity to many whites.

But I draw the line at black supremacy.

It's the mirror of white supremacy.

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/epics/TOS70.jpg

[octopusrex]

Hey, get this shit straight once and for all..

THE WAR ON DRUGS is about FARMING not about RACE.

What are you gonna tell all the Coca Growers in Colombia? That they are dying and having their lands sprayed poison on because they are COLOMBIANS?

FUCK THIS SHIT DOUBLESPEAK!

It´s divisionary tactic shit. I can't think of Jazz without thinking of weed.

[kingmonkey]

I think saying that most white people think black people are drug dealers is a bit ridiculous...For starters, where I live there are plenty of drug dealers/thieves of every colour and every one knows damn well it hasn't got anything to do with race; it's got to do with being a scumbag with no morals.

It's funny you mentioned the "liberal" whites. In my experience these are the worst kind; they're the ones that usually make the biggest deal about race. The liberal (usually well educated/middle class) ones of every race are always the ones who constantly pontificate about ethnicity and race etc. for no real reason except to "debate" it with their over educated and under experienced friends.

[decode reality]

Y'know, the essays that Voodoo has posted offer a lot of important information and it can't be ignored. At the same time, if white supremacy was the root cause, then why is it that you find loads of addicts who are white? I see them everyday near where I live- they've completely gone mentally. If the system was set up for their benefit alone, then why doesn't it protect them from killing themselves with heroin/crack etc- and selling it to their own, for that matter? The point I was making earlier is that pretty much everybody is a target, regardless.

My own thinking is that we as black people have to take responsibility for our situation. We have had some great figures historically to show us a better way, and we have them today. But we're largely ignoring those teachers. We can quote the stats till the end of time but ultimately, it's when we choose to be informed and more aware of who we are, what here for etc that the drug problem will go!

In short, the system was set up to fuck with all of us! It just fucks with each of us differently.