to be a freeman

[elemental mechanic]

Hello to all

as with all who start something new it is unfamiliar and disconcerting; so as someone new to this i will be seeking lots of advice and doing reems of research but it is my intent to pay forward what i have learned to those who will perhaps at some stage make the journey i am undertaking.

i have followed some parts of the threads for a few weeks now with regard to becoming a freeman and have read that having an N.I number is (if you like) a means by which i am employed by the government or an agent of it, hence part of why i pay taxes.
(i'm not quoting, only sending back what my understanding is to what i read)

i have therefore come to the conclusion that what i need to do is give back my N.I number as a part of the remedy to this unbearable situation, if this is the case can someone point me in the right direction as how i can do this.

Please dont be too harsh if the answer is staring me blatently in the face, i was born into this matrix, raised by it but i know in my being that it is wrong.

without holding dellusions of grandure i find myself at times like neo in the movie MATRIX where toward the end as neo is being chased by agents he grabs the mobile phone dials his opperator and askes for a little help!

with much thanks.

a freeman by right.

ps excuse if there are any speeling mistakes my master summons me to work :o

[merlincove]

That mobile was my mobile, elemental, and i was busy calling my opperator.... lol

interesting point, and welsome to the forum btw :-)

am looking for some answers too, though as you say there is so much to filter, and all the detractions and side threads aside, it can be difficult to find a begin point.

bumping the thread to keep an eye on it...

peace

[mr_kiz]

You can't give it back, you are issued it surely.

Plus if you don't have one then you can't work.
For most big companies anyways.

If your not planning on working then why bother sending it back?
Just fob em off.

Everything is reliant on the system so it would be a rather huge change to completely distance yourself from it.

[tartanbhoy]

you can still work under a contract of services agreed by both parties...however as the last poster pointed out the majority of big companies may not allow it.

[elemental mechanic]

Hmmm, foiled at the first post? :confused:

i dare not believe this to be true, i gather, in one respect or another that we
(the collective we) know are rights have been diminished to something lending itself toward the that of the bar bar mentality (a loose quote of davids)

i see that complete disconection from the system is perhaps a giant leap but isn't that what is requiered; a revolution YES but not one out there in the streets more an internal one of the sprit and mind.

(they are my thoughts at any rate)

non the less, i hear and appreciate the feedback thus far; so i think what i am hearing is ignore them (them being the state if you will) or is it more a case of jump in and jump out as i choose.

i still have to go with my sense of truth regardless so if there is any one else who can offer more input i'm more than willing to listen.

after all slavery is slavery no matter how you dress it up, isn't it?

"namaste"

[scotfree]

SEE
http://www.fmotl.com/

This is a weird website. It is deliberate. There are no adverts to titillate you into spending money. There is no 'donate' button, because I don't want one penny of your money, even though I'm not, what you would call, stinking rich.

[merlincove]

is that your site, scotfree?

[tien an]

SEE
http://www.fmotl.com/

This is a weird website. It is deliberate. There are no adverts to titillate you into spending money. There is no 'donate' button, because I don't want one penny of your money, even though I'm not, what you would call, stinking rich.

If that's your site scotfree, then I salute you.
There's obviously a lot of work behind it.

Bravo.

Heavenly Peace.

[pleasuredome]

your NI number doesnt mean that you, the man, are an employee. it relates to the fictional person that was set up when it was registered, being an employee. i believe if you abandon it, it would destroy the cesti que trust. a full NOUI&COR could destroy the whole lot. the trick maybe to seperate yourself from the person and claim right to use the person to interact with corporations sometimes with its NI#(particulary if you are using bonds, A4V etc). you may need a security agreement between you and the person so that the person owes you say £800billion to stop the government taking the person away from you use.

[yozhik]

you can still work under a contract of services agreed by both parties...however as the last poster pointed out the majority of big companies may not allow it.

Only because they don't understand that there are alternatives.
The programming is deep.
The ordinary men and women that work within the "big company" have also been programmed with the official propaganda from the elite handbook and so will simply repeat that which they (erroneously) believe as fact.

My mother is the perfect example :)

Whenever I mention working without a tax number, her head is immediately catapulted into malfunction and her eyes take on that Blue Screen Of Death glaze over, of computer proportion.

They may not allow it because the alternative has not been made available to them. In fact, contracting for services would be beneficial for them. No more employee contributions or PAYE paperwork. Simple payment on invoice and no more benefit payments. Their accounts department would love it.


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[scotfree]

is that your site, scotfree?


No it is Veronica's who I have spoken to

How to become a Freeman-on-the-Land

http://www.fmotl.com/

[tartanbhoy]

thank you for that yozhik...I am looking forward to my attempt at persuading the said "big company" around to this way of thinking...with a bit of luck,it may fall on an understanding pair of ears...Failing that it's off to the berry fields for me this summer :)

Stewart

[elemental mechanic]

pleasuredome the "NOUI&COR" meant nothing until i done a search on it and things are making a little bit of sense :rolleyes:
(thats a good thing i'm sure)
the link below is what i found

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43920

so if i have comprehended a piece of the deception correctly around it, i'm thinking, i would like to give back my N.I number back but the truth is that it's irelavent. in so far as, the person and or entity is not me.

(oh wait a minute, brain freeze, hmm)
however that entity can be used in my favour (so to speak) when i need to interact with other said corporations (who the corporations are not being important at this time)< my thoughts) non the less by having the person (entity) i use owing me a large chunk of change (only truly valuble to other corporations, including that which it is registered with) then it cannot be taken away from me because they would have to honour the outstanding amount. ?
(some slight doubt there toward the end) but i feel i'm in the right ball park. this can be done by issueing a NOUI&COR.

how am i doing with that rational?

i clearly have more reading to do but mayhaps i be sailing with the wind on my back. :cool:

"namaste"