Mercury rising time = Flight 11 impact time

[zetetic0void]

I was very much into backyard astronomy when I was younger and learned the constellations visible from my latitude so this might explain why I was recently wondering what was happening as far as sky objects were concerned on 911.

Using Stellarium free software , I used New York city as the location and set the time to 8:48am Eastern time and I saw this

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~*~ Planet Mercury exactly on the eastern horizon starting to rise ~*~

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Mercury rising = visual estimate from Stellarium = 8:46am to 8:48am (from the position of New York). I'd like to find planet rising time charts from 2001 but haven't yet.


This is around the same time as the first impact of Flight 11! (08:46:30 but also given as 08:46:40)


Upon investigating , I found out that 'Sept 11' was the first day of the Egyptian Coptic calendar. The frst month, Thout, is named for the god Thoth

The ancient Greeks saw Thoth as the equivalent to their Hermes. The Romans gods were just basically renamed Greek ones and Hermes = Mercury to them.


Thoth = Hermes = Mercury

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Mercury was associated with merchants, markets, commerce (all stemming from the same latin , 'merx', as mercury) as well as theivery.



So here we have the planet Mercury just on the eastern horizon rising on the first day off the Egyptian calendar on the start of the month for the god Thoth who was the same as Mercury.



coincidence? or people planning events carefully according to astronomical alignments


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I checked out the time for the impact at the Pentagon too.

Mercury was within the constellation Virgo and as the Earth rotated, everything rose from the east. It appears that at the same recorded moment of the impact of "Flight 77" (whatever it was)... 9:37am Eastern time


~*~ Spica was on the eastern horizon just rising ~*~


Spica is the brightest and most important star in the constellation Virgo (it was still below the horizon when Mercury was just rising at Flight 11 impact).


According to astrologers, apparently Virgo is ruled by Mercury so Mercury being in Virgo at that date might have been significant to people feeling that alignments like this had some power.


I'll have to investigate more into possible symbolism of Spica other than it's usual association with wheat. I have read , though, that Spica may have been the origin of the Freemason 5-pointed star as well as the stars on the US flag.


http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2008/09/appearances-of-power-ruminations.html

(search for word "Spica")

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Also interesting around this time in 2001, Jupiter was between the two twins of the constellation Gemini

Interestingly, one of the stars that is the head of one of the twins of Gemini , Castor, had pretty much the same rising time as Jupiter that morning at about 1:10 am

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Perhaps there was some symbolisms important to people who had an interest in aligning events with astronomical objects. These ones I'll have to look more into

1... Mercury rising = Flight 11 impact time
2... Spica rising = Flight 77 Pentagon impact time
3... bright stars Regulus in Leo, Spica in Virgo, Arcturus in Bootes allegedly designed into Washington DC plan
4... Jupiter between the bodies of the twins of Gemini
5... Rising of Jupiter and Gemini's Castor both at around 1:10 am


http://novoordoseclorum.blogspot.com/2009/02/american-masonic-cup-filled-with.html

[phreedom]

very interesting information, friend.

If it is all accurate as you present it, it certainly shows quite an intriguing connection between the events outlined on Earth and those transpiring cosmicly from our point of reference

[zetetic0void]

Well , I personally don't really believe in the alleged power of astrology but I have read that secret societies seem to take numerology and timing of events and their dates as well as alignments of astronomical objects seriously. So it seems to me that these events were timed and planned to match up with astronomical alignments on purpose (my finding various 7s atthe Pentagon event originally made me think there is a lot of numerology these people are concerned with);

Numerology & Pentagon:

- ground height above sea level(ASL)= 33 feet (!)
- Flight 77 (Boeing 757) said to hit
- Pentagon wall = 77 feet 3.5 inches high
- 5 rings of 77 (775) feet 3.5inches
- impact longitude: 77deg 3.5' west
- 7 stories ... 5 above ground, 2 below
- volume = 77,015,000 cu ft

- London bombings= 7-7-5
- World Trade Centre building 7 collapses on 911 ...no plane hit

- ground breaking for Pentagon construction = Sept 11, 1941
- G.H.W. Bush 'New World Order' speech = Sept 11, 1990
- G.H.W Bush was age 77 on Sept 11, 2001 (b. 1924)
- Aircraft carrier named after him - CVN 77

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I was reading how there is a triangle of the Washington Monument, Capitol Building and White House that is a representation of the bright stars Arcturus , Regulus and Spica.
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At the rising of Spica (corrolating with the very time of the impact of the 'whatever' at the Pentagon), these three stars were now above the horizon.

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Some other events earlier that morning in the sky may have matched up to timings of hijackings or something else... I'll have to look to see if there is any timings matches

(I've taken screen shots of these things from Stellarium ... I'll have to post them)

1... Sirius in Canis Major (brightests star and important to Egyptians) crossing due southat about 8:18 am

Hmmm.... it appears that wikipedia lists this quote

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"At 8:18 a.m., flight attendants Betty Ong and Madeline Amy Sweeney began making phone calls to American Airlines"
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This time appears to match the crossing of Sirius (brightest star ) at due south in New York

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2... Constellation Columba the dove below Canis Major ... crosses due south earlier that morning. I thought I saw some reference to a goddess called Columbia which is what the Statue of Liberty really represents. I'll have to look into that more.

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3... Jupiter crosses due south at about 8:23:45 am ... maybe this alings with a timing of some event? Will have to check.


wikipedia also has

"Mohamed Atta's first announcement, heard by ATC at 08:23"


Matching time of Jupiter crossing due south from New York.

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4... Arcturus rises at about 8:40am ...


Of course , since the Sun was already risen before Mercury, Arcturus, Spica and some other things happened, they wouldn't have been visible in the sky...but the timing could have been accurately predicted and theoretically used to plan events ...if the planners had a desire to match events to astronomical events.


Hmmm, this quote from wikipedia also matches this timing

"Although the military first learned of the hijacking of Flight 11 from Boston Center at 8:40, just 6 minutes before its impact"

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I still think the Mercury rising at Flight 11 impact and Spica rising at Flight 77 impact into Pentagon are quite suspicious , but perhas some of these others are coincidental. It's still a bit odd that times I took from astronomy software of important stars (Sirius= brightest star and central to Egyptian mythology) and planets matches recorded times of events on 911.

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I'm still trying to research if Mercury was the "morning star" mentioned in one spot in the Bible (referred to as Lucifer in the King James version). Most pages I find say the mention of the 'morning star' was for Venus but really, both Mercury and Venus could be 'evening stars' or 'morning stars'. I'm not sure if most writers are just making an asumption that it always means Venus because it's the brightest normal object besides the Sun and Moon in our sky.


There was an Egyptian grouping of Thoth (as Mercury) and Seshat (female goddess and I assume is Venus) and Ra (as the Sun) which was visualized as a boat with Ra(the Sun) and Thoth and Seshat accompanying Ra on either side:


Thoth ------- Ra ------- Seshat

Mercury ----- Sun ------ Venus


This 'solar boat' trio is just like what visually happens in the sky as Mercury and Venus both only go either side of the Sun (morning or evening) a limited distance because they are closer than the Earth to the Sun and inside our orbital ellipse. They wouldn't always be on opposite sides or always visible... on 911, each was on a different side of the sun.


I'm still tryin to research the connection of Mercury to Lucifer and even to Promethues (who stole fire from the gods and gave it to humans ... he was chained to the mountains where an eagle ate his liver each day ... the liver being known as an organ that regenerated). I think even the snake in the Garden of Eden story as the one who suggested to humans to take from the Tree of knowledge (similar symbolism to Prometheus giving fire to humans) could be connected symbolically to Mercury. In fact the staff of Mercury (Caduceus) has two snakes entwined on it (actually there is a spot in the Bible where moses has a staff that a snake wraps onto). I'm still trying to research any attachements in mythology between these things so it's still a bit vague.

I've even heard that the dollar sign could be a visualization of the snake on Mercury's staff (seeing that Mercury was god associated with com+"merce" , "Mark"ets... from latin merx) or even the snake on the Tree of Knowledge. The older dollar sign with two vertical lines might have represented the columns Boaz and Jachin in the original Temple of Solomon at Jerusalem (important to the Knights Templar and Freemasons).



I know that Rockefeller Center in NY has a golden Prometheus (but has no indication of him being tormented by an eagle ... obviously missing half of the point of the myth ... that is, with power comes responsibility and potential great harm). Oddly enough, in that statue , theres a ring around him with a zodiac on it and it appears Capricornus is at the bottom. Capricornus being the sea-goat would perhaps tie in with the goats head in the inverted pentagram common in satanism.......as well as the "My Pet Goat" book held upside-down on the morning of 911 but George Bush at the school in Florida.

http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery/html/P31819187e.html



What a poor symbolic representation of the Prometheus myth. To not show the fact that he is chained to the mountains and an eagle devouring his liver each day totally ignores the consequences of power. That's an important aspect of the myth .... no wonder this world run by greedy power-hungry elites is so imbalanced if they only see half of a symbolic myth!

[matrix911]

Very interesting data Zet.... If you find that interesting, you're gonna freak out when you see the connection 911 and the WTC has to GIZA...

Funny, because I've been wanting to start a thread on the net for some time on this subject which I first found back in 2003 but never really got around to it,, so perhaps now is the time for this info to be revisited, circulated and considered here.

At first I thought perhaps it was a coincidence, but the more I researched egyptology, symbolism of the Pyramids, including numeric connections and mathematical discoveries, I realized there may be more to this. About a year and a half ago I found only 1 or 2 sites discussing this amazing connection between the WTC/911 and now have started seeing more and more pop up.

How much do you know about The precession of the earth and the constellation of the Orion? Do you know anything about Robert Bauval's discoveries?
Long before 911 I was very interested in the Orion connection and that discovery he made. I was always looking at the ARIEL VIEW PHOTOS of the 3WTC IMPRINTS and couldn't figure out where i'd SEEN it before... Something about the POSITIONING of the Towers and their destruction seem to be strangely SYMETRICAL... But it wasn't until 2003 or so that it HIT ME and i had wondered if anyone else was talking about it or discussed it but saw almost NOTHING until about 2006 when i happen to come across a website/blog (link below) dedicated to this.

Have you seen the UFO @ WTC discussion? I've seen several threads about the alleged UFO that was captured on film BEFORE 9/11 which was too strange to be a coincidence. So Is there an ET connection to the WTC/911? There does seem to be one with the DOGON TRIBE, Orion and Giza. and how does the illuminati masons and NWO connect? There's also some interesting parallels to the TERRA PAPERS which i feel somehow relates but i haven't put it all together yet.

But now after seeing your post about mercury, flight 11 and the connection to egyptology, this orion connection to the WTC seems to have some bizarre connections or at least what you've presented may be important in figuring out this mystery which to me cannot be coincidence when you start looking at the parallels, math, numbers, pyramids, orion, symbolism etc closer.

What you're about to see will blow your mind if this is the first time you've heard about this or seen the GIZA / WTC / ORION connection... perhaps i'll start a separate thread on this.

I call it the ORION MATRIX911 ;)

so.... does this LOOK at all FAMILIAR??? tell me this is just a coincidence.

wait for it..........

http://www.thereal911.com/assets/images/Giza_WTC.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6776/3178/400/WTC%20Orion%20Pyramids.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6776/3178/400/pp190104wtc.jpg


so now OVER-LAY /Superimpose the WTC configuration of 1,2 and 7 to GIZA and then ORIONS BELT

http://www.science-explorer.de/pyr-giza-stars.jpg

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_piramide/piramide_orion.gif


these sites begin to put things into perspective even more....

http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com/2006/11/wtc-pyramid-part-2.html

http://www.thereal911.com/html/above___beyond.html

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=358126&postcount=17

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=44426


http://www.robertbauval.co.uk/articles/articles/gizaorion.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/piramides/esp_piramide_8.htm

http://doernenburg.alien.de/alternativ/orion/ori00_e.php


http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg114056.html


uncanny?





I was very much into backyard astronomy when I was younger and learned the constellations visible from my latitude so this might explain why I was recently wondering what was happening as far as sky objects were concerned on 911.

Using Stellarium free software , I used New York city as the location and set the time to 8:48am Eastern time and I saw this

-------------------------

~*~ Planet Mercury exactly on the eastern horizon starting to rise ~*~

-------------------------


Mercury rising = visual estimate from Stellarium = 8:46am to 8:48am (from the position of New York). I'd like to find planet rising time charts from 2001 but haven't yet.


This is around the same time as the first impact of Flight 11! (08:46:30 but also given as 08:46:40)


Upon investigating , I found out that 'Sept 11' was the first day of the Egyptian Coptic calendar. The frst month, Thout, is named for the god Thoth

The ancient Greeks saw Thoth as the equivalent to their Hermes. The Romans gods were just basically renamed Greek ones and Hermes = Mercury to them.


Thoth = Hermes = Mercury

--------------------

Mercury was associated with merchants, markets, commerce (all stemming from the same latin , 'merx', as mercury) as well as theivery.



So here we have the planet Mercury just on the eastern horizon rising on the first day off the Egyptian calendar on the start of the month for the god Thoth who was the same as Mercury.



coincidence? or people planning events carefully according to astronomical alignments


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-------------

I checked out the time for the impact at the Pentagon too.

Mercury was within the constellation Virgo and as the Earth rotated, everything rose from the east. It appears that at the same recorded moment of the impact of "Flight 77" (whatever it was)... 9:37am Eastern time


~*~ Spica was on the eastern horizon just rising ~*~


Spica is the brightest and most important star in the constellation Virgo (it was still below the horizon when Mercury was just rising at Flight 11 impact).


According to astrologers, apparently Virgo is ruled by Mercury so Mercury being in Virgo at that date might have been significant to people feeling that alignments like this had some power.


I'll have to investigate more into possible symbolism of Spica other than it's usual association with wheat. I have read , though, that Spica may have been the origin of the Freemason 5-pointed star as well as the stars on the US flag.


http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2008/09/appearances-of-power-ruminations.html

(search for word "Spica")

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Also interesting around this time in 2001, Jupiter was between the two twins of the constellation Gemini

Interestingly, one of the stars that is the head of one of the twins of Gemini , Castor, had pretty much the same rising time as Jupiter that morning at about 1:10 am

------------

Perhaps there was some symbolisms important to people who had an interest in aligning events with astronomical objects. These ones I'll have to look more into

1... Mercury rising = Flight 11 impact time
2... Spica rising = Flight 77 Pentagon impact time
3... bright stars Regulus in Leo, Spica in Virgo, Arcturus in Bootes allegedly designed into Washington DC plan
4... Jupiter between the bodies of the twins of Gemini
5... Rising of Jupiter and Gemini's Castor both at around 1:10 am


http://novoordoseclorum.blogspot.com/2009/02/american-masonic-cup-filled-with.html