Help with relieving some pain..

[kingmob]

Hey guys,

Need some advice for my GF.

We had an interesting mushroom trip a few weeks ago, and my GF had a real eye opening experience, where she got to see the true reality of the world for what it is, and connected with the source for the duration of the trip.

But after the trip was over, the pain in her 3rd eye area does not go away. I've experienced the same thing, but it lasted for about 2 days, and went away. My trip wasn't nearly as engrossing as hers, and I'm a little bit behind on being pure enough to see the reality for what it is.

The only thing that helps her relief the constant pain in that area is Sunlight and Marijuana. Constant, hot sunlight is still weeks/months away from being strong and consistent in our parts, and Marijuana is not the solution that can be used 24hrs a day as you all understand.

Does anybody have any suggestions on how to help her? I know that her 3rd eye chakrah has been overstimulated, and is not far from opening up completely, but she needs some help in either relieving the pain or working this chakrah to alleviate the pain and open it up further.

Can anybody throw some suggestions or tips for her? Thanks in advance.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Maybe... the problem is that she is wanting to see. The trick is not to want it but to allow it. It could be her desire for her third eye to open that is causing the problem. Attempting to rush wisdom is like forcing a flower bud to open. I think she should try and relax into 'normality' without fearing losing sight of her experience.

[psychicdefender]

Mushrooms stimulate serotonin receptors and sunlight produces serotonin, I think the marijuana is dulling the pain but not treating the cause.

Apart from sunlight try chocolate (dark or 'pure' - the health food stuff) bananas, and 5HTP - you should be able to get it in Holland and Barrat. Comedy, kids 'feel good' films and so on should all help.

Most of all relax.

Good luck.

PD.

[crimsonblade]

I can say from experience that relieving this kind of pain is usually a process of trial and error. A few suggestions that have worked for me include: breath meditation while focusing on the third eye, resting crystals on the forehead for about 30 minutes (I can't remember which crystals correspond to the third eye), and asking one's guides to assist with the pain. I also recommend not thinking about or discussing matters of a spiritual nature for a few days. Hope that helps.

[farros]

Excersise and meditation, plenty of fresh air, massage the area regularly.

You say marijuana helps but does she smoke it? i wouldn't recomend smoking since it seems like the area is blocked and clogging up the sinuses with mucas will inhibit the healing process.. perhaps she could eat it?

[kingmob]

Excersise and meditation, plenty of fresh air, massage the area regularly.

You say marijuana helps but does she smoke it? i wouldn't recomend smoking since it seems like the area is blocked and clogging up the sinuses with mucas will inhibit the healing process.. perhaps she could eat it?

We made some hash brownies yesterday, and the high was stronger and lasted longer, but upon the next day the pain actually intensified. And yes, she usually smokes it at the end of the day, as that has been the only thing that has given her immediate relief.

And to add to the first post, and 2nd post, she has never forced the issue in wanting to see the reality, she is very natural in how she approaches these things.

[unusual_suspect]

Hey guys,

Need some advice for my GF.

We had an interesting mushroom trip a few weeks ago, and my GF had a real eye opening experience, where she got to see the true reality of the world for what it is, and connected with the source for the duration of the trip.

But after the trip was over, the pain in her 3rd eye area does not go away. I've experienced the same thing, but it lasted for about 2 days, and went away. My trip wasn't nearly as engrossing as hers, and I'm a little bit behind on being pure enough to see the reality for what it is.

The only thing that helps her relief the constant pain in that area is Sunlight and Marijuana. Constant, hot sunlight is still weeks/months away from being strong and consistent in our parts, and Marijuana is not the solution that can be used 24hrs a day as you all understand.

Does anybody have any suggestions on how to help her? I know that her 3rd eye chakrah has been overstimulated, and is not far from opening up completely, but she needs some help in either relieving the pain or working this chakrah to alleviate the pain and open it up further.

Can anybody throw some suggestions or tips for her? Thanks in advance.

Do you know anyone who does reiki? That might help, it might just a bit of time to level out.

Has she tried getting drunk, that would work for me in that situation :o

[impermanence]

The pain is a natural reaction. If you where blindfolded your whole life and used your eyes for the first time today, you'd suffer pain for some time, the pineal gland actually has an eye-like structure so it makes sense that you may suffer pain from 'seeing' so rarely. It's just like when you lift weights after months of being lazy, it's nothing to worry about. Some great suggestions for relief have been given but nobody mentioned the obvious; paracetamol, aspirin, ibuprofen - all OTC meds. Or of it's serious, opiates? Any excuse for a fix ehh? :p


No Pain, No Gain!!


I feel delighted when I hear people having profound mystical experiences on psychedelics, it warms my heart to know that people out there 'know'.. ;)

[sir nob jerkoff]

And to add to the first post, and 2nd post, she has never forced the issue in wanting to see the reality, she is very natural in how she approaches these things.

I just mean that there is a danger - particularly in young people - of being overeager to 'see' which can cause problems. Also, if it was a particularly full on trip, it might be difficult for her to come immediately straight back down to everyday reality with all the new experience/information that she has buzzing around waiting to be assimilated. I agree with the poster who said to avoid spiritual discussions just now and is what i was meaning when i said to "relax into 'normality'".

[kingmob]

I just mean that there is a danger - particularly in young people - of being overeager to 'see' which can cause problems. Also, if it was a particularly full on trip, it might be difficult for her to come immediately straight back down to everyday reality with all the new experience/information that she has buzzing around waiting to be assimilated. I agree with the poster who said to avoid spiritual discussions just now and is what i was meaning when i said to "relax into 'normality'".

I see your point, but overzealosy to see is not part of her personality. And yes, you are right, it was a very full trip, mushrooms presented her with a full view of things, and she had difficulty at that moment of making a decision and coming back to the present reality as it seemed very unnatural. I will try to shut down the spiritual discussion for a while, but its hard, as its always around us it seems.

[impermanence]

I see your point, but overzealosy to see is not part of her personality. And yes, you are right, it was a very full trip, mushrooms presented her with a full view of things, and she had difficulty at that moment of making a decision and coming back to the present reality as it seemed very unnatural. I will try to shut down the spiritual discussion for a while, but its hard, as its always around us it seems.

I think that's crap, stay deep and spiritual and deal with what's been learned. To turn your back on the only truth you can know because of a few headaches seems dumb to me. Take some pain killers, have a couple of glasses of wine and a spliff and discuss. What you both really need is a good nights sleep, nothing like a deep philosophical discussion while enjoying fine wine and weed to put a man to sleep.

Any retreat I've been on that involved psychedelics we always discussed endlessly after, even when people where exhausted they where encouraged to keep contemplating, it's very easy to forget when you get stuck into monotonous rat race activity.

[sir nob jerkoff]

I see your point, but overzealosy to see is not part of her personality. And yes, you are right, it was a very full trip, mushrooms presented her with a full view of things, and she had difficulty at that moment of making a decision and coming back to the present reality as it seemed very unnatural. I will try to shut down the spiritual discussion for a while, but its hard, as its always around us it seems.

I didn't mean 'shut it down', as such. Just not to overdo it while she still has so much going on as it is. You wouldn't want to eat a dessert while your body was still struggling a bit with the main course, would you? I just think if she has pain, there might be too much energy focused in that area, which is why relaxing into everyday normality might allow the pain/tension in that area to dissipate.

[sir nob jerkoff]

I think that's crap, stay deep and spiritual and deal with what's been learned. To turn your back on the only truth you can know because of a few headaches seems dumb to me. Take some pain killers, have a couple of glasses of wine and a spliff and discuss. What you both really need is a good nights sleep, nothing like a deep philosophical discussion while enjoying fine wine and weed to put a man to sleep.

Any retreat I've been on that involved psychedelics we always discussed endlessly after, even when people where exhausted they where encouraged to keep contemplating, it's very easy to forget when you get stuck into monotonous rat race activity.

The thing is, i don't think physical pain of the third eye region is a normal part of 'awakening'. Therefore, i'd suggest the person in question should probably get some rest and relaxation until their energy balance is back to optimal condition before continuing in that direction. Eveything is a balance, and for some reason an imbalance has occurred (these things happen). So the area which needs addressed most now is the physical - not spiritual. That doesn't mean to "turn your back on" what's been learned. Just to address whichever area needs it most at any given time.

[impermanence]

The thing is, i don't think physical pain of the third eye region is a normal part of 'awakening'. Therefore, i'd suggest the person in question should probably get some rest and relaxation until their energy balance is back to optimal condition before continuing in that direction. Eveything is a balance, and for some reason an imbalance has occurred (these things happen). So the area which needs addressed most now is the physical - not spiritual. That doesn't mean to "turn your back on" what's been learned. Just to address whichever area needs it most at any given time.


Yes that makes sense, but it sounds overly sensitive and delicate though, we're not dealing with new-born children here. I guess I'm just an all or nothing kind of guy with no time for 'little headache' shit, I just take something, get it over with and back to the important stuff. It's my nature. But I totally understand your point and agree that everything is always balancing out, I also realise I'm a 'little' impatient. :D

From experience though, even one week after a profound trip, I've forgotten all the little details I thought I wouldn't and only ever possibly remember them while in an altered state of consciousness. We think we won't forget, but like a dream, we always do, that's why it's important to write things down.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Yes that makes sense, but it sounds overly sensitive and delicate though, we're not dealing with new-born children here. I guess I'm just an all or nothing kind of guy with no time for 'little headache' shit, I just take something, get it over with and back to the important stuff. It's my nature. But I totally understand your point and agree that everything is always balancing out, I also realise I'm a 'little' impatient. :D

I have just found that the best way for me is to always listen to my body and address imbalances as they crop up instead of hammering on. But i am a slightly built, delicate, over-sensitive little pansy. :)
And in my opinion, the 'important stuff' is keeping it all in balance. Too much of anything isn't good.

[debs67gb]

im afraid the truth of the matter is no matter how open she is she and you use highly stimulative drugs to achieve seeing anything? for the remaining pain id suggest reiki for your gf - it allows release - and maybe lay off the drugs for a while and see if you both still feel the same :)

Im sorry if i sound a grouse but you mention drugs so much it appears that you both use them very frequently - not my business - thats yours :)

[impermanence]

I have just found that the best way for me is to always listen to my body and address imbalances as they crop up instead of hammering on. But i am a slightly built, delicate, over-sensitive little pansy. :)
And in my opinion, the 'important stuff' is keeping it all in balance. Too much of anything isn't good.



You're a wise man, I'm a fool, I know this, lets hope he does too. ;)