2001 Space Odessey

[space lizard]

I'm going to watch this film for the first time this weekend, it is illuminati propaganda or is the director trying to to inform people like the matrix?

[logic bomb]

Alchemy and the evolution of man from DNA enhanced ape to starchild.

Its a good film.

lb

[logic bomb]

Read this

http://www.jayweidner.com/kubrick.htm

lb

[space lizard]

Logic Bomb, that is the greatest thing I have ever read.

[ryans53]

God knows what Kubrick's ultimate intentions were with the film, but its a damn fine movie regardless. For a more overt message, check out Eyes Wide Shut--perfect film for Icke students.

[chattanova]

That movie is pure art , it's still fantastic but it must have been incredible when it came in the late 60's.
Also the sound/music. It's just to love:)

It's a long time since I last saw it and I didn't know a thing about the illuminati etc. But when I think over it Im pretty sure this movie is just a big code.

I think he's trying to tell us about how the technology is about to take over the whole planet.

Here's a pretty weird page on the 'odyssey' http://www.kubrick2001.com/

I have to see this again, soon.

[eternal_spirit]

High Masonic bullshit.

[klinker]

High Masonic bullshit.

Is it? How so? Do you have any reference material you can point me too that explains you comment?

I've never studied the meaning of the film. I first saw it when it would never have struck me to do so.

[lightbeing]

I just want to know where to get that back rectangle and plonk it in my garden, get the neighbours talking!;):D Oh, and the Stargate ring, but my garden isn't big enough!!:p

[graflok]

High Masonic bullshit.

Bingo! We have a winner! :)

[eternal_spirit]

It's the old monkey Darwinian story of evolution (Illuminati propagand)with the computer(hal name for ancient sungod?) at the end turns bad.

[space lizard]

Not it's not

Logi Bomb posted something incredible in the 3rd post of this thread. It about how every couple of thousands of years, the stars align in such a way which opens doorways through the universe. When the doorway opens life on this planet changes from one age to the next.

in the biginning of the movie the door opens and apes become tool users and there is much violence.

then in the year 2001 the stars align again and set off evens that bring about the next change in humanity after a period of incredible violence.

Kubricks message is about humanity having to be brought to he'll before it can understand the power of the gods.

READ THIS, it's amazing and backs up the theories of david icke, and the matrix about space / reality / etc

http://www.jayweidner.com/kubrick.htm

[space lizard]

I know nobody else i interested, but I'll close the thread by pointng out a few key observations after viewing last night for the first time.

In the year 2001 mankind has become so subservant and humanity trusts the government without question. The ships computer HAL9000 is reknowned to never make mistakes, HAL9000 has a personality. The humans do not. HAL9000 has a soul the humans do not. HAL9000 realises that something about the mission does not add up. The humans do not even think about it. HAL9000 wants to abort the mission and save himself. The humans think he's gone mental.

Much like David Icke, when space oddessy came out nobody asked whats going on, everyone just said, its a movie about a computer that goes mad.

HAL9000

Rock On!

[baron von lotsov]

Hmm.

Well I think that is an over simplification. It is one of the most philosophical films I have ever seen and it was a great film, an all time classic. It provokes complex questions about the nature of machines and human thought. These questions are still being debated and it is very inspirational stuff. The only other film that comes close to equalling it in my opinion is Blade Runner. I know both films are probably conditioning by the system of some sort and maybe this is why they were such quality productions. However it's not like the kind of blatant mind control employed in the Matrix films, which were far more simplistic. It tends to pose questions and I think that is a good thing. I still remain completely of the opinion that a machine can never mimic human consciousness, since a machine is dead.

[space lizard]

once again I'll as people to read this
http://www.jayweidner.com/kubrick.htm

I just watched space oddessy 2010 The year we make contact.

In this movie HAL9000 is reactivated and at a key moment in the film they depend on HAL to use all his power for an evacuation, HAL knows this will leave him stranded in space alone and asks why. They lie to him and HAL is on the verge of sagotaging their plans. Then the creator of HAL tells him the truth and HAL co-oporates because it is for the greater good. HAL is supposed to represent the people who pay attention and think for themselves, the message of HAL is Tell us the truth we can handle it. Lie to us and we will fuck you over.

Interesting to note, Stanley Kubrick had nothing to do with this film. I think 2001 was a coded warning to humanity about how the goverment would instigate a dark period in history in 2001 for their occult beliefs.

2010 was directed by someone else, I feel to stick a smiley face over the whole sinister plan. More interesting is the montage at the end of 2010, we see 2 suns symbolising the new age of enlightenment, rising and setting upon The Great Pyramid / The Eiffel Tower / The Tower of London. - Also 2010 was about the culmination of the cold war in 2010. After the movie it would have been to obvious, so they ended that and started the was on terror to mentally prepare us for the arrival of the star child.

2001 was a warning, here's the deal type "Film".

2010 was propaganda, don't worry about it "Action Flick".

[hagbard_celine]

Great movie from a great book by a great author and made by a great director.:)

It's about the idea that life on Earth was influenced by aliens intelligence and that these aliens are waiting for us to "grow up". The monlith is buried and programmed so that when the humans on Earth reach the point when they've developed space travel, they'll find the monolith, dig it up and allow it to transmit a signal to its makers.

The sequel "2010- Odessy 2" is even better. It talks about the aliens creating a new sun out of the planet Juptier. Very topical considering the rumours of Lucifer Project. The new sun was actually called Lucifer- the bringer of light. Arthur C. Clarke worked with NASA in the 60's and knew a lot of people high up; he co-wrote a lot of fiction with Viking manager Gentry Lee. Is this life imitating art or the other way round?

[cheeb]

Great movie from a great book by a great author and made by a great director.:)

It's about the idea that life on Earth was influenced by aliens intelligence and that these aliens are waiting for us to "grow up". The monlith is buried and programmed so that when the humans on Earth reach the point when they've developed space travel, they'll find the monolith, dig it up and allow it to transmit a signal to its makers.

The sequel "2010- Odessy 2" is even better. It talks about the aliens creating a new sun out of the planet Juptier. Very topical considering the rumours of Lucifer Project. The new sun was actually called Lucifer- the bringer of light. Arthur C. Clarke worked with NASA in the 60's and knew a lot of people high up; he co-wrote a lot of fiction with Viking manager Gentry Lee. Is this life imitating art or the other way round?

Hagbard,
I loved the books
2001
2010
3001
And there was a series on the telly
about the 7 wonders of the world
ACClark had his,
Fractual mathematics and
cuttlefish non verbal communication
were 2 of his 7,

I've just read
The Light Of Other Days

by ACClark & stephen baxter


this ,its hard to beleive,

surpasses anything that Mr Clark has written before,
Derivative of all his other work,

But to me ,

Where he was going right from the first moment,
He put pen to paper

A metaphore for the internet generation,
And a foresight
To the wormwood scenario.

Brilliant

POE
t
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[hagbard_celine]

Cheeb, my favorite novel was "The Songs of Distant Earth". It was put to music by Mike Oldfield.

His short stories are excellent too and you get get an omnibus of them all now. Writing a good short story is far harder than writing a good novel!