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sophia_h
14-03-2009, 05:36 PM
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DESTROYING OUR PAST!!


Most of us here know Christianity is a hoax, but to what extent is another matter. It is a hoax of catastrophic proportions. A study of Medieval Paintings reveals a cry for help. Many of the artists of the period left messages in their work. There are quite a few paintings- all of Christian religious matter (this was not an option of the artist as the Catholic Church had total control, and nearly every work of art during that period had to be of Christian religious themes, lest the artist be charged with "heresy" which meant torture and death) that reveal flying saucers hovering over the nazarene and other signs that this foul religion was a hoax and the people knew it, but were severely oppressed. Grey clouds obscuring the Sun in the painting "Calling of the first Apostles" by Domenico Ghirlandaio, 1481, reveals a dismal atmosphere that indicates a sad occasion and says plenty. Carlo Crivelli's painting of the Annunciation in 1486 blatantly reveals a UFO hovering over the virgin and beaming a stream of light into her head. Many artists alluded to flying saucers, by painting lenticular clouds in the skies of their works.



Leonardo's famous "Last Supper" painting displays the apostles of the nazarene in four groups of three, indicating the signs of the zodiac and the implication is- he knew Christianity was a hoax. Many other paintings of the period have hidden messages in them concerning the hoax of Christianity, if one takes the time to study them.



There have been several reports of which I posted links with the details at the bottom of the page, of the Smithsonian Institute dumping barges full of ancient artifacts into the Atlantic Ocean. Many of these were Egyptian in origin and found in the United States. Anything that disputes the Christian religion comes under intense scrutiny. Since the Jews, Christians and Muslims claim the world to be only approximately 6,000 years old, there has always been a conflict with the truth in promoting this lie.



Anyone with even half a brain knows there were no "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq. In spite of hundreds of worldwide protests against the invasion and the U.N.'s giving Iraq a clean report, George W. Bush pushed relentlessly for the attack on Iraq. Of course, it is just fine for Israel and the USA to have all the weapons of mass destruction they please with no outside interference whatsoever. We all know Mr. Bush is a "born again" Christian.



The real reason behind all of this seems to point towards the destruction of important ancient relics and documents that *prove* Judaism, and Christianity are lies. Saddam Hussein believed himself to be the reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar. With this belief, he spent some $500 million dollars during the 1980's attempting to reconstruct Ancient Babylon, the capitol of Nebuchadnezzar. Over sixty million bricks were created to replace the walls of Babylon with the engraving "To King Nebuchadnezzar in the reign of Saddam Hussein." ¹



There were many ancient temples and relics buried beneath the sands of Iraq that were proof of the origins of humanity. Whether they are still there given the invasion is unknown. American and British GI's were given the go ahead from the top brass to destroy and/or loot whatever they pleased from the Iraqi museums.



Saddam Hussein was also working on restoring the Ancient Ashurbanipal Library, which was the earliest known collected and catalogued library in the world. The texts therein originated before the flood. British archeologists in the mid 19th century at Nineveh excavated some 25,000 cuneiform tablets assembled by King Ashurbanipal which nearly all of are now in the British Museum.


In April of 2002, the Iraqi archeologists asked the British Museum if they would allow casts of the tablets to be made. Though copies were made in the past of certain tablets, this would have been the first time any significant number would have been made available as copies.


The proposed reconstructed library at Nineveh would have held copies of all of the tablets from the British Museum and was planned to be a center for scholars and a tourist attraction. Next door to the library was to be a center for cuneiform study. Plans were also made to excavate one of the wings of King Ashurbanipal's Palace in Kuyunjik Mound where it was hoped that thousands of other buried tablets would be found.


There are some 10,000 archeological sites scattered across Iraq and most of them have not even been touched. According to archeologists, thieves have broken into the Iraqi Museums repeatedly and have stolen Sumerian artifacts (This occurred before the war as well). Expensive gold jewelry and ornaments were left behind. What they went after were the ancient records in the form of cylinders and cuneiform tablets.



U.N. relief workers and foreign diplomats were several times accused by the Iraqi government of smuggling these artifacts out of the country. In summer of 2002, an Iraqi landlord was cleaning a vacant Baghdad apartment that was formerly occupied by a foreign diplomat. The landlord found two cartons of archeological fragments. The Iraqi government never named the diplomat or his country.


"Saddam assuredly knows that the release of documentation proving Judaism and Christianity as derivatives or copies of an ancient Sumerian religion could have a devastating effect on global affairs."²



"When George W. Bush stood before the Washington Monument in January 2001, during his inauguration he borrowed a surprising image from the past. Referring to America twice he said: And an angel still rides the whirlwinds and directs this storm."


Throughout the ages after the manifestation of Judaism and Christianity, every attempt has been made from mass murder to the destruction and razing of entire cities and the genocide of entire peoples to keep the lid on this lie. The "Devil" *not* the Judeo/Christian "God" was the creator of humanity.


Parts of the above information were taken from the book:

¹ "Cloak of the Illuminati" by William Henry, 2003. The author has a lot of useful information if one can read between the lines, but is seriously deluded as to the nazarene. The nazarene as we all know is fictitious. As for the virgin, this entity stole everything from Astaroth while Astaroth was bound.

² Ibid.



Excerpts from links below concerning Archeological Cover ups:

"Smithsonian at one time had actually taken a barge full of unusual artifacts out into the Atlantic and dumped them in the ocean."

"Historian and linguist Carl Hart, editor of WORLD EXPLORER, then obtained a hiker's map of the Grand Canyon from a bookstore in Chicago. Poring over the map, we were amazed to see that much of the area on the north side of the canyon has Egyptian names. The area around Ninety-four Mile Creek and Trinity Creek had areas (rock formations, apparently) with names like Tower of Set, Tower of Ra, Horus Temple, Osiris Temple, and Isis Temple. In the Haunted Canyon area were such names as the Cheops Pyramid, the Buddha Cloister, Buddha Temple, Manu Temple and Shiva Temple. Was there any relationship between these places and the alleged Egyptian discoveries in the Grand Canyon?"




"The Smithsonian"

"The 1909 article clearly states that the Smithsonian is involved with studying and excavating the site. However, the Smithsonian denies that any such discovery ever occurred. This brings up the larger question that if this was a true story, why would the Smithsonian have covered up what certainly would be one of the most significant archeological finds of the twentieth century?

Believe it or not, there is precedence for the Smithsonian losing information about discoveries that are deemed to not fit in with currently accepted dogma about the history of America and its interaction or lack thereof with other ancient civilizations."



good links on site


http://www.666blacksun.com/CONSPIRACY.html


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sophia_h
14-03-2009, 05:45 PM
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Exposing Christianity




Because of being steeped in, believing, and living a lie, in the the advanced stages of Christianity, the Christian takes on an artificial appearance and begins to look like the lie:
The well-known pasty look with the smiley mask. The lie emerges in the physical self.



"The power of the united thought of a number of people is always far more than the sum of their separate thoughts: it would be more nearly represented by their product"

- The Astral Body and Other Phenomena
by Lieut. Colonel Arthur E. Powell © 1927






The following articles provide proof that everything in the Christian religion and in the bible has been STOLEN from other religions that predated it from all around the world. Christianity is a tool for removing spiritual/occult knowledge from the populace so this power can be kept in the hands of a few to manipulate and enslave the masses.



To really understand the Bible and see the truth, one must be very well educated in the occult. The mass mind is very powerful. When one studies long enough and acquires advanced knowledge of the occult, the truth is utterly shocking. The entire Judeo/Christian Bible is a hoax of catastrophic proportions with a very clear objective using subliminal means and the channeled psychic energy of believers.



Whenever Christianity or its cohorts took control of a country or region, the ancient spiritual texts and records were removed and/or destroyed and those who had spiritual knowledge were mass murdered by the Inquisition. This took out of circulation the very knowledge those in power have used and still use to manipulate the ignorant population using spiritual/occult power. The Bible is one of the most powerful subliminal tools used by a select few to enslave the masses. Most people are unaware of this because they lack knowledge regarding the occult, thought power, and psychic energy. The powers that be work to reinforce the belief that the occult, powers of the mind and spirit are nonsense or just plain bunk.



Destroying the ancient records allowed an alternative invented "history" to be written which has disconnected humanity from its true origins. Controlling history is important because if one manipulates how people see what we call the past, this influences the present and the future.



The entire Bible is an extremely powerful subliminal tool full of occult numbers, messages, allegories, and stolen material, which has been corrupted from ancient religions. In addition, this book has been infused with psychic energy and power to instill fear and to make it believable. When one's eyes are opened and one has the necessary knowledge, the *spell* will no longer be effective. The entire underlying theme of the Judeo/Christian Bible is the establishment of the fictitious history of the Jewish people in the mass mind. What the mass mind believes has power and the energy to make manifest in reality as thoughts are energy



There are vacuum-sealed vaults in the Vatican library containing thousands upon thousands of ancient esoteric books from around the world that have been stolen and hoarded over the years and kept out of public circulation.
The Catholic Church, which is the root of the Christian religion, is controlled by a secret society that has abused occult power to enslave the masses. The end goal is the total enslavement of humanity, which they have worked towards relentlessly and ruthlessly.


All of this has directly affected each and every one of us. Humanity has suffered unnecessarily because of the denial of this knowledge. People have been coerced over the centuries into paying for their own damnation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars to keep this lie prospering and continuing strong.


The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires
only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!



Contrary to what most people have been indoctrinated with, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions.

Humanity goes back tens of thousands of years. These three have worked relentlessly to keep us from spiritual/occult knowledge and using this power, of which all of us have.



These so-called "religions" are built upon murder, torture, and lies and the only way any lie of this magnitude can survive is to create more and more lies and destroy the peoples who know the truth. Christianity is nothing more than a program. There is nothing religious or spiritual about it. Millions of people suffer depression, hopelessness, and confusion about life. The soul needs light and very few know this or actively practice the power meditation that will literally "save" their own souls.

Because of a lack of knowledge and ignorance of the occult, Humanity as a
whole has been placed under a powerful spell using occult power and
indoctrinated not to question, concerning these three so-called "religions."


This has been reinforced by centuries of Christians being duped into supplying
their psychic energy and souls to be channeled into perpetuating this lie, which in the end, will only benefit a select few.


Quote from the Jewish Talmud:
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D:

"When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.



http://www.exposingchristianity.com/


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themime
14-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Is this from an amateur Satanist website?

sophia_h
14-03-2009, 06:00 PM
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Is this from an amateur Satanist website?



too much effort to look at the link?

wow.

or just needed to post a remark with no substance?

any debate to the points in the article ?
or shot your wad and need to go back to your box?

:rolleyes:




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themime
14-03-2009, 06:08 PM
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too much effort to look at the link?

wow.

or just needed to post a remark with no substance?

any debate to the points in the article ?
or shot your wad and need to go back to your box?

:rolleyes:




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My aren't you cool and edgy.:rolleyes:


If you really want an assessment of the article I'd say it's partisan opinion dressed up as fact.

But no you go ahead and insult people who ask you if you question the sources of your arguments before you post them if it makes you feel better.

I'd hate for you to put in any effort to your though process.

sophia_h
14-03-2009, 06:58 PM
My aren't you cool and edgy.:rolleyes:


If you really want an assessment of the article I'd say it's partisan opinion dressed up as fact.

But no you go ahead and insult people who ask you if you question the sources of your arguments before you post them if it makes you feel better.

I'd hate for you to put in any effort to your though process.





this is the best you can do to explain your meaningless remark?


My aren't you cool and edgy

why, THANK YOU ! you arent all out of touch then.:D


your question was facetious and had nothing to do with the
content of the post

which you did not attempt to debate before running it down.

juvenille .

no addressing the "opinion" spoken in the post


just say its an opinion and hide behind that !
a babble way of responding to a post.



BABBLER.


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brainfreeze
14-03-2009, 07:25 PM
Sophia, though I may not comment your posts always make me think. Some days I can lose myself in links from this forum until I lose interest.

Your posts always have substance, is what I'm trying to say. To the extent that the hecklers are no more than one line regurgitated blurbs.

Thanks for the food for thought.

Keep up the good work. :)

dedicate
14-03-2009, 08:44 PM
That information is from a Satanist website. Satanism is liking to do evil, irregardless of what they might say. Satanist bring us down -- along with them. This is their program.

Christianity is no hoax. Those who do as is taught in the New Testament will benefit greatly from the practice in this life and the next, even if they fail. I would rather fail being a Christian than success being a Satan, just like I would rather fight the NWO and fail than be the most powerful murderer in the world.

themime
14-03-2009, 09:23 PM
your question was facetious and had nothing to do with the
content of the post

which you did not attempt to debate before running it down.

juvenille .

no addressing the "opinion" spoken in the post


just say its an opinion and hide behind that !
a babble way of responding to a post.



BABBLER.


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Juvenile, to question the motive for your post or your source?

From your own post:

Anyone with even half a brain knows there were no "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq. In spite of hundreds of worldwide protests against the invasion and the U.N.'s giving Iraq a clean report, George W. Bush pushed relentlessly for the attack on Iraq.

Would it have been juvenile to question the American reports, motives and sources before going to war?

I await your next tirade with baited breath.:p

emerald
15-03-2009, 12:00 AM
XTIANS attack again? Wow, how xciting! Whats wrong with u, guys, U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH? In 21st century if ure saying the truth about Xtianity, ure a satanist? Jizz us, so many illuMENTALS on this forum!

themime
15-03-2009, 08:49 AM
XTIANS attack again?

I believe you'll find that the initial OP describes Christianity as a "foul religion" and a "hoax", both terms are unnecessarily offensive and are subjective opinion, therefore open to rebuttal.

U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH?

Who's version of the "TRUTH" do you wish us to accept?

Is it truth that the painting "blatantly reveals a UFO hovering over the virgin and beaming a stream of light into her head"?

No once again this is a subjective interpretation of art dressed up as fact.

Or that:

Grey clouds obscuring the Sun in the painting "Calling of the first Apostles" by Domenico Ghirlandaio, 1481, reveals a dismal atmosphere that indicates a sad occasion and says plenty.

Not true the original painting had light blue clouds and only over time has the oil paint faded to a bark blue, not grey. Once again biased opinion dressed as fact.


In 21st century if ure saying the truth about Xtianity, ure a satanist?

This post is lifted from a Satanist website hence the reference to checking sources.

sophia_h
15-03-2009, 09:35 PM
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Sophia, though I may not comment
your posts always make me think. Some days I can lose myself
in links from this forum until I lose interest.

Your posts always have substance, is what I'm trying to say.
To the extent that the hecklers are no more than one line
regurgitated blurbs.

Thanks for the food for thought.

Keep up the good work. :)


Thank you brainfreeze

Much appreciated.

also I have read old threads here till my eyes quit and followed many
a link and filed loads .

its got so much good stuff even it there are the cadre of HATERS
who only REACT to any perceived threat to their programming.




IMV looking at a variety of sources and views will assist any true seeker
to find some CRUX of BALANCE

without which we will never be able to create PEACE


the puny BABBLINGS of trolls is only to take focus off the text
and keep chipping away at me personally for a short temporary
lift of that flaccid organ. :p


interesting how so many trolls use the same few phrase and words,

maybe they all meet under a garbage can with the cookie monster
to share the few mental giant attack ploys they have in their repertoire .





this proves I am causing some bubbling of stifled knowledges
as if this were NOT so there would be no REACTIONARY responses
with out substance and would encourage more logical debates.


Satanism is a legitimate pursuit for any who choose to seek there.


( as my black and red candles from last nights Sabbat burn down
to the holder. :D )


for people in a more 21st century mind set the last few Centurys
OLD SAWS of devils, demons, satan, Lucifer, OLD HAGS , are just that,

OLD SAWS that have passed quietly into the last Aeon of superstitions
and FEARS embedded by the very PTB the trolls pretend to hate and are
claiming to be fighting against !

what hypocrisy !

what personal Spiritual laziness.!


LOL.:rolleyes:


Any comments by those who are not bound up in fear are welcome
as a way of weaving new cloth into the schisms that divide the whole.

Again the text is not MY words, but I do find much common ground
with the writer. MY own pursuits differ somewhat from her conclusions
but only in small details .

As tho we studied with two different teachers of the same
HYMN to DIVINITY.



IF...

we keep in mind all labels by judeo/xian/islam acolytes about the devil,
satan, hags, demons, Lucifer,

are HATE LABELS for the FEMININE SIDE OF DIVINITY


the GODDESS half who was cast out by the patriarchal TYRANT
god Marduk when he took over Terra and laid down HIS NEW LAWS
that made women and children chattels and subservient to men one
can see who and why and which trolls feel so threatened !


for anyone who has given up their own power to a myth god diety
it is a TERROR to think that all of us ARE gods and need to reclaim
our godliness which is our REAL POWER.

just toooo much responsibility for trolls so they stay in static mind.


OMG ! pun intended. :D


INNER SEEKING means REALLY thinking for ourselves and doing
that scary thing, self examination ! lol lol lol.


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eyepod
15-03-2009, 10:00 PM
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Your reputation was ruined, you have been slandered and defamed with lies
May Satan Grant You Revenge....

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starstuff
16-03-2009, 12:35 AM
Aaaaand another of my teenage beliefs comes back to haunt me. Hi again Sophia! :p

To those vehemently denying the allegations in that article, or dismissing it because of the source: a reminder that the truth is the truth no matter where it comes from. Don't lose the message because you don't like the messenger. While I don't necessarily agree with all of it, it's certainly true that the Christian church absorbed, corrupted and/or demonised the old pagan religions. Any Christians reading this thread would do well to investigate the similarities between the beliefs, ceremonies and important dates of Christianity and pagan religions - and yes, there are non-Satanist resources out there that you can use.

dedicate
16-03-2009, 01:29 AM
Maybe you don't feel that your being understood. I could see how someone who practices Magic, might feel that way. Most people are not going to take the time to study the effects of Astrological configurations or the value of 78. There is a LOT of ignorance concerning these matters.

But some Christians, I know, take the subject of Magic to heart. They find a host of valuable information in the study of Kabbalah, numerology, Alchemy, and... The Bible is full of examples,. Those same Christians find things like Astrological symbolism in the Bible as something that prooves their faith, rather than discouraging.

So it is somewhat disconcerting to find people degrading Christianity when finding or pointing out the same things! -- especially when it comes from a person who claims to know something of esoterica.

Then one wonders,,-- sophia -- if then, Satanism, Devil or even Sin, do not exist as evil, but are labels that we put on something we don't understand or like, then what is it that these evil people do practice? (Bohemian Grove, Third Reich, Skull and Bones?),, if not Satanism or Lucifarianism? What forms of outer-beings do they find contact with to do evil if not evil Beings? Seems to reason that if there are evil humans (Stalin), then there are evil beings on other levels (and since there are good people,, there are good beings on other levels)

Alot of people seem to defend the misunderstood condition of Lucifer or Satan,, but then fail to show what is evil (Like the sacrifice of Children or Virgins) and what the Practice might be known as or named?

themime
16-03-2009, 07:46 AM
To those vehemently denying the allegations in that article, or dismissing it because of the source: a reminder that the truth is the truth no matter where it comes from..


Once again I would refer you to the first and second post. Re-read them and see just how many points in either article are presented as historical fact and how many are simply opinion.

Take this for example:

There were many ancient temples and relics buried beneath the sands of Iraq that were proof of the origins of humanity. Whether they are still there given the invasion is unknown. American and British GI's were given the go ahead from the top brass to destroy and/or loot whatever they pleased from the Iraqi museums.

Where is the authors source or are we simply expected to take their word that they are privy to such information?

I'm all for an open mind but not so open that you accept unsupported opinion
as fact.

Surely to be a "truth seeker" you should question things not just accept them at face value.

BTW I own several books on "The Craft" including at least three Grimoires.
So I don't come to this debate uneducated on the subject.

:)

starstuff
16-03-2009, 09:09 AM
I did my research on the perversions of Christianity about 20 years ago, so I'm not accepting anything on face value, I'm going by what I discovered for myself. My post was towards those who are dismissing the message out of hand because they don't like the source - I was attempting (and failing, it seems) to point out that other non-Satanic sources contain the same information, should anyone be curious enough about their faith to truly research its foundations.

oiram
16-03-2009, 09:39 AM
Only one Just Penalty if people or Governments
DESTROYING EVIDENCE OF OUR PAST!!
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themime
16-03-2009, 02:45 PM
I did my research on the perversions of Christianity about 20 years ago, so I'm not accepting anything on face value, I'm going by what I discovered for myself. My post was towards those who are dismissing the message out of hand because they don't like the source - I was attempting (and failing, it seems) to point out that other non-Satanic sources contain the same information, should anyone be curious enough about their faith to truly research its foundations.

Sorry if I caused offence.

I think I'll step away from this one now as it seems to have become some what of a pointless exercise.

:)

mr_kiz
16-03-2009, 03:47 PM
Christianity is evil. As are all religions. The only religion that I haven't heard/seen/read much about doing such things is Hinduism, But again, its all a re-edited biased opinion of the 7 tablets of creation. I truly do believe that the 'religious' will be the main pushing force for earth when we do finally fall into an abyss that we cannot escape from and the light cannot penetrate.

I suppose we could all become Nords and go burn everything to the ground.

mr_kiz
16-03-2009, 03:54 PM
are HATE LABELS for the FEMININE SIDE OF DIVINITY


Thats because the Eve's led the Adams out of Atlantis and to real freedom?

sophia_h
18-03-2009, 07:48 PM
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Thats because when the TYRANT Marduk took over
he made his NEW LAWS that defined women as chattel
to men for the purpose of breeding cannon fodder.

Religions were invented to enforce these anti NATURE beliefs.

All that is FEMININE and refers to the FEMININE side
of DIVINITY was labelled Satan, devil, demon, eeevil,
wicked, dirty, sinful.

This was to create HATE between men and women which was
the STRONGEST BOND humans had and would withstand the
TYRANNY so it had to be broken and TYRANNY needed
cannon fodder and women were highly intuitive and would
be able to fight the TYRANNY. :eek:






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bornagain
18-03-2009, 07:55 PM
That information is from a Satanist website. Satanism is liking to do evil, irregardless of what they might say. Satanist bring us down -- along with them. This is their program.

Christianity is no hoax. Those who do as is taught in the New Testament will benefit greatly from the practice in this life and the next, even if they fail. I would rather fail being a Christian than success being a Satan, just like I would rather fight the NWO and fail than be the most powerful murderer in the world.

You believe some Old book written by MEN, yet you do not believe the government. HA! the irony. :rolleyes:


btw op thank you so much great info, and great article.


~Born Again

cruise4
19-03-2009, 05:14 AM
"or shot your wad and need to go back to your box?"

LOL :D