Three races populated ancient africa

[sophia_h]

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With this suggestion of black (Africa), red (Atlantis) and white (Carpathia) races within pre-dynastic Egypt, it is not surprising to find wall paintings still extant in Egyptian temples and pyramids depicting all three


"Churchey," as P.T. dubbed him, took work as a civil engineer, inventing some railway spikes, lock-nuts and tie-plates for the Bangor & Aroostock Railroad, as their sales rep. The 1890s saw him in Central America and Mexico on a protracted trip to check out Le Plongeon’s findings, and further investigate William Niven’s archaeological digs 30 miles from Mexico City, where three layers of civilizations had been unearthed, buried under volcanic debris and dating from 40,000 BC. Finances were not good for Churchey during this period, and P.T. - now a successful patent attorney in downtown Manhattan with a clientele ranging from Edison to Troubetzkoy to Hammerstein to Gillette - loaned him grubstakes occasionally.


By the turn of the century, James Churchward started dabbling in metal alloys, spurred on by brother Albert, a metallurgist and author of Origin & Evolution of Freemasonry. What was in demand seemed impossible: a recipe for a fine steel to make armor plate for warships. Various combinations had been tried by experts: steel, nickel, chromium. vanadium, carbon and manganese. Nickel hardened steel, but it wouldn’t cut. Chrome steel was fair; vanadium was disappointing and expensive.



The Colonel found that only by using small proportions of each of the elements in such relations that if you increased or diminished the nickel-content you must correspondingly adjust all the others, could you produce the steel. The mathematical combinations were infinitesimal. Then, he processed the alloy at a higher temperature than ever before tried in the trade, with certain ingredients added last.


Churchward was ridiculed, then cheated out of his government contract while another steel company (or more) infringed his patent and sold his steel, highly diluted, to the War and Navy departments for double!


Then, he was dragged through court procedures and made to prove he was expert enough to have invented NCV Steel, and describe the steps (mandatory in establishing grounds for a patent). Could he reveal his primary source for his knowledge?

( We know hoo is this M.O. at work. S)



The Rishi had shown him ancient Hindu holy writings describing early metallurgy, where extreme heat temperatures were used in metal allay melts! The contained secret formulas now lost to the ages, like that of the sacred pillar in New Delhi, composed of an iron that never rusted! Could he explain his psychic intuition that led him to the ultimate recipe? He could have told them,

"An amateur built the Ark; experts built the Titanic."


"What determines the soundness of a hypothesis is not the way it is arrived at ... but the way it stands up when confronted with relevant observational data,"

concludes Karl Hempel in Aspects of Scientific Explanation. Modern traditional scientists have long abandoned this paradigm (if they ever followed it), insisting on step-by-step progress and duplicatible results. Psychic hunches are not welcome in the lab.

Yet Fritjof Capra, a theoretical physics researcher, states in The Tao of Physics,

"the rational part of research would be useless if it were not complemented by the intuition that gives scientists new insights and makes them creative."

Despite years of struggle by P.T. and the Colonel to market NCV following WWI, steel bigwigs had successfully blacklisted the alloy, and finally a dispirited James sold the Churchward International Steel rights to a small company. The brouhaha had brought names like U.S. Steel’s Judge Eugene Gary, J. P. Morgan, and a Krupp Munitions rep to the courtroom, and P.T. was flummoxed when contacting close connections from Miami Beach to Washington. The word was out: NCV was taboo, as politics, finance and the "Steel Juggernaut" closed ranks.



But the Colonel had over a quarter million (equivalent to about 28 million millennium bucks), and by 1922 had re-embarked on his original pursuit, Mu. Both the Le Plongeons had died, and the issue of Mu versus Atlantis hadn’t been settled! Every record, inscription, legend or artifact that the French explorer saw as proof of an Atlantean colonization of Yucatan, Mexico and South America, Churchward could translate into a sign of influx from the west. The "cradle of civilization," Le Plongeon believed, was in Atlantis, and Mu-ans came after, or maybe were transplanted Atlanteans. Not so! countered the Colonel; Hindu records proved Mu to be the motherland. In the last analysis, Lemuria doubtless preceded its eastern counterpart as the primal spot where man first appeared which, according to Cayce, was 10-112 million years ago, in a material body considerably less dense than now. Philostratus, in "Life of Tyana," says "the first Egyptians were a colony from India" and historian Valniiki, in the Ramayana, writes:



"The Naacals first established themselves in the Deccan, India, and from there carried their religion and learning to the colonies of Babylonia and Egypt. Their Nubian settlement was called Maioo on the present site of Suakin."




Supposedly, this preceded the colony started at Sais, the "mouth of the Nile" by Thoth, son of an Atlantean priest, in 14,000 BC, with a temple for teaching the Osirian religion. According to Cayce. by 10,090 BC the Atlanteans had arrived from their sinking continent, adding to the conflict between the Egyptians and attackers from Carpathia (Ibex Rebellion).






During this time the Great Pyramid was built, with Hermes (Thoth) principal architect; the Sphinx was "already there."



With this suggestion of black (Africa), red (Atlantis) and white (Carpathia) races within pre-dynastic Egypt, it is not surprising to find wall paintings still extant in Egyptian temples and pyramids depicting all three. Original Lemurians (brown race still existing in Pacific regions) and those from the Gobi (yellow) or their descendants found their way as well to Egypt, the melting pot 15 millennia ago. The white and yellow races sojourned southward, according to Cayce, with the,

"turning of the axis, climactic changes, and uprisings on Atlantis, they came more into that portion of Egypt. India. Persia and Arabia."



(#364-13, Nov. 1932)



more good stuff:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_7.htm



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[synergy777]

goodstuff, i love this ancient history.

i think that the orginal indians were africans. that these africans migrated from lemuria into india then onto egypt. after all krishna himself is depicted as african eg black skin, curly hair.

[sophia_h]

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goodstuff, i love this ancient history.

i think that the orginal indians were africans.
that these africans migrated from lemuria into india then onto egypt.
after all krishna himself is depicted as african eg black skin, curly hair.

no

Lord Krishna had BLUE SKIN

as did all the ancient people of the Indus Valley
their blood was copper based
producing a pale to medium blue skin




the above link is a fascinating study

you will enjoy it when you read it.



Tsarion and other modern reseachers quote from some
of the Scholars of past generations
who have been marginalzied by TPTB




so I read assidiously as much maybe right on the truth

OR

it would be taught in the government run schools ... lol.


have you read Maria Gimbutas. ?

TPTB wont let her works become known


again

WHY ?


:rolleyes:



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[puppet]

Brahmin Indians were of the White Race, and Ram and Sita were of Russian descent, they were not African.

[lumukanda]

you guys should look into the work of cyril hromnik.

[sophia_h]

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Brahmin Indians were of the White Race,
and Ram and Sita were of Russian descent, they were not African.


Albeit so, the ancient Divinities of the Indian continent
were always blue
as is Ganeesh of Good Luck


any google wil return pics and artworks as well as descriptions of the
ANCIENT GODS as BLUE. Krishna is blue as he dialogues with a very white
Arjuna

searches also will show the southern peoples were increasingly dark
skinned as immigrations bred into the locals


A look at the peoples of China shows the same

The southern masses were very dark skinned and regressive


as one went north the people were lighter to a pale yellow
and wealthy, intelligent, productive, civilized.

this is FACT
even today to some extent

it is not racist except to the pavloved reactionaries.




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[puppet]

Yes but Sophie, this is all well and good but are you a racist??? I am not for everyone has their good and bad points.

[puppet]

Syn 777 will claim that India was populated with Africans but the Aryans were of Russian blood and just look at the high castes of India, Blue Eyes is still common with some of them OK.

[synergy777]

first i am indian, north indian. i am of olive skin/light brown complexion, i have freckles, i have body hair, i have an african/arab nose etc. i am a hybrid/geneticaly diverse, lol.

i come from punjab, which is the aryan homeland, the land of the mahabharata/krishna etc.

the blue colouring is metaphor, it represents the ash that saddhus/asetics cover themself with. the real colour of krishna was brown, if one goes to india, and sees the oldest paintings, they show krishna to be brown, not blue.

i am proud of my indian heritage, i am proud of my african heritage. what colour this body is not important. its only melanin, the gene mc1r. lets talk science not theory. this body is only useful for 80 plus years, thus its colour does not bother me.

whats more important is our heritage, our global heritage. what our history is, what our future can be together in unity, in harmony, in liberty, in equality.

as for this 3 races, we humans are only one race. its genetic diversity, migrations, climate adaption and breeding which has caused our differentation. we should view things objectively.

puppet/ blue eyes is from lack of melanin in the eyes, its actually a recessive trait. also i do not like this european hijacking of my culture. max muller the godfather of european aryan culture, even apologised to indians for the errors of the european hijacking of aryan culture, whilst some indians even supported hitler due him being the aryan avenger on the jews.

read your history.

there is linguistic, scientific, genetic proof that india is the aryan homeland. my name, my language is derived from sanskrit ffs.

[puppet]

Anyway the Indian are the most racist of people I have heard, and yes India is actually classed as a WARNING against race-mixing. Me personally, I prefer Asian looking guys but everyone is different in their tastes. My boyfriend he is Hindu Asian, and say to him any African heritage and he will go down on you like a ton of bricks.

[synergy777]

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/what_is_vedic_aryan_culture.htm

What Is Vedic Aryan Culture

By Stephen Knapp

It is often considered that the Vedic Aryans are a race of people. Aryan actually means a standard of living, an ideal. It was the Sanskrit speaking people of thousands of years ago that gave the word arya to signify a gentleman, an ideal person, someone on the path of purity. It was a term meant for those who were on the cutting edge of social evolution. Another way of interpreting the word aryan is that ar also means white or clear. Ya refers to God. Ya also refers to Yadu, or Krishna. Thus, aryan means those who have, or are developing, a clear path or a clear consciousness toward God.

In this way, we can understand that Aryanism, or Vedic culture, is a way of life. It is not a race of people or a sectarian creed or religion. It belongs to no particular country or race. It is a path that upholds a code of conduct which values peace and happiness and justice for all. Thus, it is a path open for all who want to be trained to be happy with simple living and high thinking, while engaged in proper conduct, a moral life, and selfless service to humanity. Therefore, anyone who wants to live in such a manner may be called an Aryan, a member of the Vedic culture, no matter from which race or country a person may come.

So what does it mean to follow this Vedic Aryan path? It generally means to learn the ways of a spiritually progressed person. This includes understanding one's spiritual identity, knowing that he or she is not the body but is spirit soul, that there is karma for one's actions, and rebirth in another life after death. Thus, everyone will automatically reap the reward or punishment for his own good or evil thoughts, words, and deeds. By having a solid understanding of such spiritual knowledge, there is automatically a respect for all others regardless of race, sex, or species. This brings a moral and peaceful social behavior in everybody toward everyone. By having respect for everyone's spiritual identity, this also brings an innate happiness in us all. We can understand that we are only visiting this planet for a short time, and that we are all in this together. In other words, my contribution to your well-being, especially spiritual well-being, will be an automatic contribution to my own existence. In this way, society at large is in a state of constant improvement. That is the goal of the Vedic Aryan way of life.

Not everyone, however, wants to reach this stage of life or follow this path. That is why the Vedic system installs rules for moral behavior and regulatory sacraments and practices beginning from the prenatal stage all the way through death. Of course, many of these moralistic rules are also quite common in other forms of religion and behavior. However, anybody who is unwilling to follow such rules for a balanced moral standard is dubbed a non-Aryan. Such a person is not on the spiritual path of life, regardless of what other standards or principles of etiquette he may follow. So a person who lacks spiritual tendencies and acts on the bodily platform of life, willing to do whatever he likes, or who thinks he is a white body, or a black body, or from this country or that, and who holds loyalty only to that conception and shows it by criticizing everyone who is not like him, is a non-Aryan. He may hold love for his family and those who are like him, but makes no elevating contribution to the rest of society. Furthermore, he often instills into his children the same prejudice that he carries, thus perpetuating this view and the misunderstandings of life that he has. In this way, we can see the need to return to the Vedic standards of life through authentic spiritual education.

Therefore, the Sanskrit word Aryan means a way of life that aims at the elevation of everyone in society to a higher level of consciousness. It means to assist ourselves through a disciplined and godly life to understand the purpose of our existence as well as to become a spiritually realized person. It also means that we help every other individual soul because by helping others we help ourselves. That itself is a natural state of being when we can perceive God as the Supersoul, Paramatma, within everyone. All of this is encouraged by, and increases, a natural faith in an all-pervading Supreme Being. Such faith and focus on the Supreme Being can elevate us to return to our real spiritual home after death, which is one of the most important goals of the Vedic lifestyle.

(This article is from: http://www.stephen-knapp.com)

[synergy777]

Anyway the Indian are the most racist of people I have heard, and yes India is actually classed as a WARNING against race-mixing. Me personally, I prefer Asian looking guys but everyone is different in their tastes. My boyfriend he is Hindu Asian, and say to him any African heritage and he will go down on you like a ton of bricks.

you sound like an old poster november/december.


personally i think who ever you fall in love with, that love is the most important factor, not the colour of skin, class, wealth, religion etc.

tell you hindu asian boyfriend, i am panjabi, sikh, he ain't gonna attack a brother like me, lol.

i think as there is one god/creator, there is one race, and we are all his/her children, thus all equal.

i couldn't give a toss, frankly, what other people with their elitest/racist doctrines think, i go my own way.

[puppet]

No Syn777 I am Puppet, and yes my boyfriend is proud of his Hindu heritage. I do not see anything resembling Africa in him.

[synergy777]

No Syn777 I am Puppet, and yes my boyfriend is proud of his Hindu heritage. I do not see anything resembling Africa in him.

have you checked his pants, my resembles african, lol

anyway, what part of india does your boyfriend come from. us indians are a diverse bunch. thats what i like, we are of all colours.

see with me, i am 100 indian/panjabi, but i have been mistaken by people for mixed race/half black-half white, peuto rican/dominican/mexican, iranian, italian, arab etc.

also the fact you are white, and have an asian boyfriend, shows me, that in the end, love is the most important thing, not colour/class/wealth/religion etc.

[sophia_h]

Yes but Sophie, this is all well and good but are you a racist??? I am not for everyone has their good and bad points.



no

sorry to dissappoint you.

not.

your posts are difficult to understand.

the article speaks for itself.

why are my views of any concern to you ?

why not debate the content of the posted excerpt ?



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[pinkfreud]

i think that the orginal indians were africans. that these africans migrated from lemuria into india then onto egypt. after all krishna himself is depicted as african eg black skin, curly hair.

well synergy i agree with the bolded bit; don't know if they 'migrated' into egypt, though i'd love to read up more on this.

+ i am of the belief that the 'original' inhabitants of india were black (see the tribes in the andaman and nicobar islands!), though there have also been accounts of lemurians being brown (not black) skinned; by virtue of lemuria preceeding atlantis even, it could be that the very first people in india had a wheatish complexion... and then we had the aryans who came in from the north.

again, there's a possibility that india was a land of 3 distinct races too- right from the prehistoric days to the present.






no

Lord Krishna had BLUE SKIN

as did all the ancient people of the Indus Valley
their blood was copper based
producing a pale to medium blue skin.


sophia,

have you even bothered to get familiarised with the indian deities? or do you just choose to post stuff you don't even remotely understand?


hindu 'gods' like krishna, vishnu and the 'goddess' kali are depicted as being blue skinned because in the early days, when the brahmanical system became the focal point in hinduism, it was considered sacrilegious or an offense to depict a 'heavenly figure' as having ebony or very dark skin.


hence the common artistic depictions of the hindu deities having a midnight blue skin colour. this has nothing to do with with the aryan race having copper in their bloodstream- what nonsense! fyi, all the people of the ancient indus valley were not blue skinned, but had a wheatish complexion; till the aryans intermingled with them and did have fair offspring as well.

the fact is the aryans were genetically linked to the caucasians, and were a different race from the darker skinned south indians- which synergy spoke about.

[1977]

The Pharaonic ruling class in Egypt was part of an Indo-Aryan "Dynastic Race" that established itself over the indigenous African population at the beginning of the first dynasty. This theory was accepted well into the 1990s, when it was inexplicably shoved aside and deemed "racist". Is it just another cover-up, or was there a good reason?

(This may offend the Afrocentrists, but many of the Pharaohs were tyrants, slaveholders, and empire-builders, and franky, they do not need to be associated with these guys anyways.)

[sophia_h]

well synergy i agree with the bolded bit; don't know if they 'migrated' into egypt, though i'd love to read up more on this.

+ i am of the belief that the 'original' inhabitants of india were black (see the tribes in the andaman and nicobar islands!), though there have also been accounts of lemurians being brown (not black) skinned; by virtue of lemuria preceeding atlantis even, it could be that the very first people in india had a wheatish complexion... and then we had the aryans who came in from the north.

again, there's a possibility that india was a land of 3 distinct races too- right from the prehistoric days to the present.






sophia,

have you even bothered to get familiarised with the indian deities? or do you just choose to post stuff you don't even remotely understand?


hindu 'gods' like krishna, vishnu and the 'goddess' kali are depicted as being blue skinned because in the early days, when the brahmanical system became the focal point in hinduism, it was considered sacrilegious or an offense to depict a 'heavenly figure' as having ebony or very dark skin.


hence the common artistic depictions of the hindu deities having a midnight blue skin colour. this has nothing to do with with the aryan race having copper in their bloodstream- what nonsense! fyi, all the people of the ancient indus valley were not blue skinned, but had a wheatish complexion; till the aryans intermingled with them and did have fair offspring as well.

the fact is the aryans were genetically linked to the caucasians, and were a different race from the darker skinned south indians- which synergy spoke about.







hence the common artistic depictions of the hindu deities having a midnight blue skin colour. this has nothing to do with with the aryan race having copper in their bloodstream- what nonsense! fyi, all the people of the ancient indus valley were not blue skinned, but had a wheatish complexion; till the aryans intermingled with them and did have fair offspring as well.



nor have I said such

Only that the Ancient gods are all depicted with blue skin

Its LIGHT BLUE

not blueblack

in your blind rush to speak as an attack to me you didnt READ
clearly what was actually written.

of course the people were not blue


The Ancient Dieties are always seen as LIGHT BLUE.

They also could not stay out in the SUN. They were NOT
the same genes as the masses . They were DEITIES.



google for pics of Ancient Hindu DIETIES.

slow down your URGE to attack and see what is actually written
before you do the attack thingie or you look .... ..... not organized.

There were tan people and white people in the Indus Valley.




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[nialldabass]

Good god what a boring topic , as if race and culture matters, get over youselves, who gives a shit about the colour of your skin, and dont get me started on culture.

[pinkfreud]

nor have I said such

Only that the Ancient gods are all depicted with blue skin

Its LIGHT BLUE

not blueblack

in your blind rush to speak as an attack to me you didnt READ
clearly what was actually written.

of course the people were not blue


The Ancient Dieties are always seen as LIGHT BLUE.

They also could not stay out in the SUN. They were NOT
the same genes as the masses . They were DEITIES.



google for pics of Ancient Hindu DIETIES.

slow down your URGE to attack and see what is actually written
before you do the attack thingie or you look .... ..... not organized.

There were tan people and white people in the Indus Valley.




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my intention was not to attack you. i corrected you, because you posted something that wasn't right.

i don't go about posting stuff on christianity, judaism, islam and even sikhism because my knowledge about these religions is either zilch, or very limited.




so, if you visit most of the temples in south india, many (not all) deities are black or dark coloured. natarajan (another form of shiva), krishna (an avatar of the 'blue' skinned god vishnu) tirupati, shabrimala, shani (saturn)- all depict gods as being black coloured. where's the question of them not being able to stand in the sun :confused:

yet, when you go up north, you don't really see this phenomenon. if at all, many pictorial depictions of the 'gods' are anywhere from DARK to MIDNIGHT BLUE, and not light blue. i say this, because i live here and if i was asked to 'identify' myself with any religion, it would be hinduism. so i don't really need google to support my argument, you know?




india as a whole is a rascist country for the most part, even though many indians would go up in arms being labelled that way; but unfortunately, that is a fact. puppet got it right when she said:

Anyway the Indian are the most racist of people I have heard, and yes India is actually classed as a WARNING against race-mixing. Me personally, I prefer Asian looking guys but everyone is different in their tastes. My boyfriend he is Hindu Asian, and say to him any African heritage and he will go down on you like a ton of bricks.

it's so fucked considering indians were just some of the people who were looked down upon for their colour. then again, many here seem to be regurgitating the leftovers of colonial rule :rolleyes:





getting back to your points, yes- people in the indus valley were both fair skinned and also had a wheatish complexion; which is what you had not pointed out in your earlier post.


stop playing the victim, and keep an open mind.



...and for that matter, many would argue and say that the blue skin is a subtle representation of 'blue blood'. while i do agree with that too, i also tend to veer towards the belief that the 'gods' many indians worship could have been dark skinned. this subject though needs a lot of discussion which would be apt for another thread, so i won't debate about this with you because it would deviate from your original topic :D so go ahead and have a nice day :)

[decode reality]

The Pharaonic ruling class in Egypt was part of an Indo-Aryan "Dynastic Race" that established itself over the indigenous African population at the beginning of the first dynasty. This theory was accepted well into the 1990s, when it was inexplicably shoved aside and deemed "racist". Is it just another cover-up, or was there a good reason?

(This may offend the Afrocentrists, but many of the Pharaohs were tyrants, slaveholders, and empire-builders, and franky, they do not need to be associated with these guys anyways.)


Hi 1977. Could you please provide some names of books/resources where info on the Indo Aryan Egypt can be found? Thanks in advance.

I am aware that some quarters of the Africentric scholarly movement painted a rose tinted picture of ancient Egypt. However, there are many positive contributions of that time period which also shouldn't be overlooked. For good and for bad, it represented a time period where Africans were controlling their own world and teaching others- the reverse is the case in today's cycle of course. Now, if we are simply bigging up despots who happen to be black, then that's foolish and we may as well vote for Obama (hey, they did already!:rolleyes:) At the same time, their were many great and positive things in that ancient culture and time period. And the positive thing about Afrocentrism is that it took black people out of the 'slave history' timeline. I don't class myself is an 'Afrocentrist', mind you, every 'ism' has its schism! Let's not go to the extreme of the academics who omitted all African presence from the books, as a way of disenfranchising African peoples and covering up lots of information from humanity in general.

Sorry, I know this isn't the thread topic but felt I wanted to contribute.:)

[1977]

Hi 1977. Could you please provide some names of books/resources where info on the Indo Aryan Egypt can be found? Thanks in advance.
Sure, I'll just copy what I wrote here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=836225&postcount=74


Anthropological research may some day shed much-needed light on what was perhaps the most important of the migrations by establishing the identity of the so-called 'Armenoids' or 'Dynastic Race',' whose presence in Egypt at the beginning of the dynastic period, although discounted by many authorities in the past, has been further attested by recent excavations.2 Physically these people differed unmistakably from the predynastic Egyptians: whereas the latter were unusually small in stature and possessed long and narrow skulls (about 13 2 mm. in breadth), the newcomers were more massively built and their skulls (about 139 mm. in width) were appreciably broader than those of their predecessors.3 The quantity and distribution of the skeletons hitherto found suggest that the 'Dynastic Race' entered Egypt in considerable numbers from the north, where the purest examples of their racial types have been discovered; this fact alone would suggest that the immigrants came from Asia, but it is doubtful whether the assertion sometimes made that they were Armenoids is anatomically justifiable.4 Before the end of the First Dynasty they had already penetrated southwards as far as Abydos5 and were becoming merged into the general population-a process which appears to have been intensified with the passage of time. So long as the origin of this people remains unexplained, it is difficult to determine what fresh knowledge they may have brought with them to Egypt, but it is probable that a generous share of the credit for the acceleration in cultural progress observable at this time should be ascribed to their presence. Perhaps the Semitic elements in the structure and vocabulary of the Egyptian language were also introduced by them. Archaeological evidence suggests that they provided the ruling class and that they adapted their way of life to conform with the customs already prevailing in their new home; in this respect they set a precedent which was to be followed by successive invaders of the Nile Valley down to Roman times.

The Ancient Egyptians: Beliefs and Practices (http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Egyptians-Beliefs-Practices-Religious/dp/1898723729/) (October 1997):

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We need to remember that what we are talking about here is the ruling class of elites; not Egyptians in general.

[opulentview]

Sure, I'll just copy what I wrote here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=836225&postcount=74


The Ancient Egyptians: Beliefs and Practices (http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Egyptians-Beliefs-Practices-Religious/dp/1898723729/) (October 1997):

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We need to remember that what we are talking about here is the ruling class of elites; not Egyptians in general.

Now we're getting somewhere