The EU - straight banana's! and No Freemen ??

[broccoligarden]

Hello all, please be gentle, i'm learning!
Once under the big fat fist of the EU does that mean any sovereignty we have now or have acquired through becoming a freeman is then completely overuled?
Only just started looking at the EU and its treasonous implications.
Thanks :)

[spoonogsback]

Learners are welcome. At some point all were learners.
To answer your question is easy. YES and NO
However I am unsure about the soverignty of whom? the People or the CROWN ?
I cannot see how anyone could take your soverignty unless you give it to them.
They may be doing what they do to and for you by assuming its ok with you, and unless you have informed then otherwise they will probably still do so.

[broccoligarden]

Learners are welcome. At some point all were learners.
To answer your question is easy. YES and NO
However I am unsure about the soverignty of whom? the People or the CROWN ?
I cannot see how anyone could take your soverignty unless you give it to them.
They may be doing what they do to and for you by assuming its ok with you, and unless you have informed then otherwise they will probably still do so.

I mean essentially we are, as individuals, sovereign anyway, especially in a spiritual sense, but if you have i.e. notorised Freeman status, or are refusing the offer to act as the legal fiction ' person' and not being governed by statutes etc. Common law is therefore the 'Law' and the only Law, Law of the Land.
So with EU legislation ultimately being above our Crown and parliament, then where do we stand with our Common Law and Freeman status? I'm assuming that EU policies will over ride Common Law?
I hope i have explained that ok, its tricky sometimes!
thnx :)

[saul]

So with EU legislation ultimately being above our Crown and parliament, then where do we stand with our Common Law and Freeman status? I'm assuming that EU policies will over ride Common Law?

Hi all

How can EU law be above that of common law, no foreign power is allowed to make laws in this country unless they have defeated us in war, as stated in the Treason Act. Now this government along with others have committed treason, if people ignored EU laws would they still apply, we are the only ones which gives laws the force they need.

Albert Burgess: A case for Treason:
http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/albert-burgess-case-treason

[broccoligarden]

Hi all

How can EU law be above that of common law, no foreign power is allowed to make laws in this country unless they have defeated us in war, as stated in the Treason Act. Now this government along with others have committed treason, if people ignored EU laws would they still apply, we are the only ones which gives laws the force they need.

Albert Burgess: A case for Treason:
http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/albert-burgess-case-treason

Yeh Albert Burgess is on the ball, good link
so really the passing of the EU is reliant on the general populations lack of knowledge on laws of treason???? correct me if that wrong. Officials are 'sneaking' (use term loosely!!!) us into the EU and hoping no one realises they have they power to stop it???
So does anyone know how many people have done what Burgess suggests and report Heath gov etc for treason to local police authorities?
Sounds good :D

Going back to first question aswell though, it would seem that the EU legislations would have final say over Common Law??? :eek:

[eternal_spirit]

Straight bananas and broccoli lol (:D)

square meal
Is it natural have you ever seen a straight willy?

[broccoligarden]

Straight bananas and broccoli lol (:D)

square meal
Is it natural have you ever seen a straight willy?

Maybe thats on the EU agenda too - straight willy's...... :eek: could be tough for more people than we imagined!!!! :D

[saul]

so really the passing of the EU is reliant on the general populations lack of knowledge on laws of treason???? correct me if that wrong. Officials are 'sneaking' (use term loosely!!!) us into the EU and hoping no one realises they have they power to stop it???

When the people of this country voted to join the EEC, were they told that EEC/EU would in the future pass laws in this country which is unlawful, do you think the people would have joined if they had known?

The EU is corrupt as it has always been, take the Lisbon treaty as an example, how many of the peoples of Europe have been given the opportunity to vote on this Constitution and those that do have vote No, what happens...they are asked to vote again.

So does anyone know how many people have done what Burgess suggests and report Heath gov etc for treason to local police authorities?
Sounds good

I believe that they have tried at least a 150 times, last i heard the Met Police had agreed to look into their complaint, how far it goes, i`ve no idea.

Britain On the Brink:
Britain On The Brink - Part 1 of 4 - YouTube

[4879]

In Germany for example we have civil law system, not common law, so there is quite a difference. and it gets more complicated because our "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" short BRD, is a self-administration construct and not a country and what ive heard is that our basic law has no area of application, the whole subject is very obscure, but i am beginning to understand...

[Ian2day]

This is only my own opinion. You have to see things from a named jurisdiction perspective. Yes the UK is a part of the EU. Just as Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. Just as Wales is a part of Great Britain and NI. Just as The city fo London is a part of London. Just as London is a part of Greater London. The various different regions have their own byelaws, legislation and acts of parliament etc and this is enforced via consent. If you refuse consent then you are technically only answerable to common law which is applicable to England. So declaring Freeman is about rescinding consent. If you dont consent then they technically can't use acts and legislation when dealing with you. An example is a charge of murder. This is made under common law. Driving offences are dealt with under the road traffic act.

[broccoligarden]

This is only my own opinion. You have to see things from a named jurisdiction perspective. Yes the UK is a part of the EU. Just as Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. Just as Wales is a part of Great Britain and NI. Just as The city fo London is a part of London. Just as London is a part of Greater London. The various different regions have their own byelaws, legislation and acts of parliament etc and this is enforced via consent. If you refuse consent then you are technically only answerable to common law which is applicable to England. So declaring Freeman is about rescinding consent. If you dont consent then they technically can't use acts and legislation when dealing with you. An example is a charge of murder. This is made under common law. Driving offences are dealt with under the road traffic act.

But if we become further integrated into the EU then we are ruled by EU legislation which is above our sovereign the crown and thus above us as sovereigns and even if you decide to declare freeman status and/or rescind consent to be governed by UK statutes, you will still have to bow down to EU legislation????................Is that the case??????? or will we still have a choice to consent or not, without being imprisoned as terrorists!

United States of Europe:The Lisbon Treason P 1/9 - YouTube

this vid is very informative
:) :) :)

[jimmi]

If you have extricated yourself from the current 'system' , as I am intending to do for myself through the route of serving notices etc. Then you would not be part of the society that hands over sovereignship to the european parliament or whatever it's called.



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I intend to stand for our God given rights, if that means I get banged up as a "terrorist" then so be it, they won't be able to lock us all up as terrorists, just let go of the fear!

[broccoligarden]

If you have extricated yourself from the current 'system' , as I am intending to do for myself through the route of serving notices etc. Then you would not be part of the society that hands over sovereignship to the european parliament or whatever it's called.



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I intend to stand for our God given rights, if that means I get banged up as a "terrorist" then so be it, they won't be able to lock us all up as terrorists, just let go of the fear!

Excellent thats was the answer i needed, i think we know this in our hearts but its true we let 'the fear' get the better of us sometimes and also there is the inner battle we do to free ourselves of our own conditioning.

thank you so much :) :) :D

[Ian2day]

The head of the EU is not elected. Therefore the EU has no rights over the individual. As being subject to EU directives etc would be a type of forced compliance against your will. Thus meaning that you're enslaved. With slavery being unlawful under common law as it was abolished in England in about 1823. Therefore the EU is unlawful and cannot be enforced under common law. I suppose that all people have to do is declare themselves free and serve a notice to that effect to the head of the EU and not the Queen. No one should take my thoughts on this as the way common law should be applied. The thing is that you yourself have to figure it all out.

[scotfree]

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