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arten
10-03-2009, 12:04 AM
A friend of mine just got a new political party off the ground here in the UK called aptly None of The Above check out his webpage and think about it.
If that new party contested every seat then Westminster will go into meltdown and the Houses of Parliment will look like it did when C4 ran an experiment a few years ago when real people were put in there for a tv show. I am beginning to think that this is the more sensible way to go in the UK you have to change the system from within, appealing to voter apathy and giving those people a real choice makes more sense to me. If you drop out of the system then that is just heading for confrontation which looks doomed to failure. By all means do what I am now doing play the system and as the Anti Terrorist said use your person wisely.

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Why Vote for - None of the Above 16:23
Statement of Principle: All legitimate consent requires the ability to withhold consent; therefore, the legitimate consent of voters requires they be able to withhold their consent in an election to office.

Welcome to NOTA. A political organistation that seeks to increase the participation of the electorate at elections. The last General Election 2005 Recorded a turnout of 61% of the electorate (see link). A minority of that 61% voted for the now Government giving them a majority in the house of commons of 66. From 21.53% of the overall electorate

http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/area/uk/turnout.htm

At the time there was both disappointment and anxiety amongst all shades of the political class and the idea of a positive abstention 'None of the Above' was on the agenda.

The count down for the next election has began and the collective wisdom of the self proclaim Independent Electoral Commission and our Government have ruled that the option of a positive abstention has been at best, put on the back burner.

Not only do our political masters deny us, the electorate, the option of voting against all with a cross placed in the box with the heading 'None of the Above, they have also prohibited the expression 'None of the above' as a title for registration of a political party. It is the only explicit expression prohibited.

Their explanation? Go to:
htp://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/em2005/uksiem_20050147_en.pdf
The EC does hold the electorate in high regard

This organisation has submitted an application to the Electoral Commission to register the party name, 'NOTA'. Legislation gives the 'Independent' Electoral Commission power to refuse to register a name or description, for various reason including if, in its opinion, it

• Includes any prohibited words or expression
• Could mislead a voter about the effect of their vote.
• Could contradict or hinder a voter's understanding of any instruction about the voting process.

It is our contention that only 'None of the above' is a prohibited expression and this is quite explicit. The legislation does not state, 'None of the above or similar meaning or looking expressions, as being prohibited.

We are of the view that NOTA would not mislead the voter about the effect of their vote or that it could hinder a voter's understanding of any instruction about the voting process.

If you agree with this please contact the electoral Commission at:

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/contact.

Please express your views. We would appreciate it, if you could cc us in order that we could monitor matters. If you were to supply your personal details it would help us ensure that genuine representations are made by the electorate and help us to identify those fictitious representations made by other party activist.

If you want to have the opportunity to make a Positive Abstention at the next General Election you need to act now and contact the Electoral Commision, to act in your interests and not those of the existing political party cartel.


Questions and Answers.

What are the policies of 'NOTA'?

We do not have any policies since our aim is solely to facilitate a procedure whereby those people who wish to expression a positive abstention can do so with that vote duly recorded.

Why register as a political party?

We are not political party although we have had to attempt to register a political party in order for the Party name 'NOTA' can, subject to the approval of the Electoral Commission, be protected from imitation. So that the electorate can be confident that their vote would be accurately recorded.

Should I have the opportunity to vote for a NOTA Candidate and they return the highest vote what happens next?

I think this question should be addressed to our political master. Notwithstanding that, the Candidate would attend Parliament and register accordingly then resign their seat in order to provoke a by-election. In which they will stand again. Should they be elected again then they would take their seat and campaign for the implementation of 'None of the Above' on the ballot paper. And take up the duties of a constituency MP.

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metacomet
10-03-2009, 12:28 AM
Not only do our political masters deny us, the electorate, the option of voting against all with a cross placed in the box with the heading 'None of the Above, they have also prohibited the expression 'None of the above' as a title for registration of a political party.

Wow that really makes a good point.

The voting public should be able to check 'none of the above' when offered nonsense options.

For instance when Kerry was running against Bush here in the U.S. everyone was prattling on about choosing the 'lesser of two evils'.

Isn't that what political parties have been doing to us for years? Handing us TWO corrupt options and making us decide which is 'less evil'.

We should all have the option to choose 'neither'.


I think this NOTA idea is great - and something like it is needed in the States, even if just to prove a political point. Obama for instance is not giving us real options.

spoonogsback
10-03-2009, 01:02 AM
You cannot repeat cannot change the political system (as the yanks say ) Period.
It's a business they will never listen to you, they can't they are only men pretending to be in charge of a fictious entity, that cannot and does not exist.
They have constructed and moulded this entity over many many years and at a whim they can change the rules because it's their game, not yours or mine. Do not forget this ever!!!!!!
If you want change then you must be the change you want to see. For example if you want to be free then you must not prevent others from being free.
If you want to be happy......etc. I'm sure you get my point.
Politicians......and .......Sausages.........???????????
no-one would have either if they witnessed the making of both ,although some would probably still go for the sasuages.
Just learn to live your life without worring about these poisoned men their time is at an end anyway, and they know it.
The freedom loving men living on the land will eventually win out for one fact can erase all fiction, and governments are fiction. Try pointing at the government to test this theory if you don't believe me .............. Difficult isn't it......
you can point at different men that act as if there was a government but there is no entity that you can point at and say there this is the government..........
Ok I'm gettin sleepy now goodnight and peace to you all.

arten
10-03-2009, 01:08 AM
You cannot repeat cannot change the political system (as the yanks say ) Period.
It's a business they will never listen to you, they can't they are only men pretending to be in charge of a fictious entity, that cannot and does not exist.
They have constructed and moulded this entity over many many years and at a whim they can change the rules because it's their game, not yours or mine. Do not forget this ever!!!!!!
If you want change then you must be the change you want to see. For example if you want to be free then you must not prevent others from being free.
If you want to be happy......etc. I'm sure you get my point.
Politicians......and .......Sausages.........???????????
no-one would have either if they witnessed the making of both ,although some would probably still go for the sasuages.
Just learn to live your life without worring about these poisoned men their time is at an end anyway, and they know it.
The freedom loving men living on the land will eventually win out for one fact can erase all fiction, and governments are fiction. Try pointing at the government to test this theory if you don't believe me .............. Difficult isn't it......
you can point at different men that act as if there was a government but there is no entity that you can point at and say there this is the government..........
Ok I'm gettin sleepy now goodnight and peace to you all.

Hi M8 I understand what you are saying but what if in the UK this new party received the lions share of the vote and won the election. The only thing that TPTB could then do is show their true colours by instigating martial law, at least people would then wake up and finally see what is really going on. And the illusion of democracy would be busted forever.

spoonogsback
15-03-2009, 12:43 AM
I see your point. THis is what ron paul was trying to do in the usA. even though he was way ahead in the polls they just lied and changed the numbers.......So they would do the same thing again ....... but perhaps there is some merit in wha tyou say I'll bang it around my head for a bit and get back to you mmmmk !!!

scotfree
15-03-2009, 04:00 AM
I have stood for the UK Parliament 3 times. While my 100 votes did help change the outcome from Labour to SNP.
The collectivist communistics are still there. Democracy is a sham. Wake up.

arten
27-03-2009, 10:10 PM
YMCA - THE SEQUEL?

To the tune of YMCA

Voter, there's no need to feel down.
I said, voter, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, voter, 'cause recessions around
There's no need to be unhappy.

Voter, there's a place for your woe .
I said, voter, when you really don’t know.
You can join us, and I'm sure you will find.
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
They have everything for you to enjoy,
Together we make a noise ...

It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.

You can get yourself heard, make establishment reel,
You can do whatever you feel ...

Voter, are you listening to me?
I said, voter, its time to dump your MP?
I said, voter, you can make real our dreams.
But you got to know this one thing!

No one does it all by themselves.
I said, voter, put MPs on the shelf,
And just enroll, to the N-O-T-A.
I'm sure they can help you today.

It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.

They have everything for you to enjoy,
Together we make a noise ...

It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.

You can get yourself heard, make establishment reel,
You can do whatever you feel ...

Voter, I was once in your shoes.
I said, I was down and out with the blues.
I felt no one cared if I were alive.
I felt the whole world was not right ...

That's when someone showed me the truth,
And said, voter, take a walk to the booth.
There's a party called the N-O-T-A
They can start us back to the way.

It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
It's fun to be with the N-O-T-A.
They have everything for you to enjoy,
Our votes they can make a noise ...

N-O-T-A. ... you'll feel good with the N-O-T-A..

Voter, Voter, there's no need to feel down.
Voter, voter, NOTAs coming to town.

N-O-T-A. ... you'll feel good with the N-O-T-A..

I said voter, there's no need to feel down.
voter, voter, get yourself off the ground.

N-O-T-A... just go to the N-O-T-A.

Voter, voter, are you listening to me?
Voter, voter, you can make yourself free

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