Get organiaed?

[catfood]

Ok planes no-planes, reptilians no-reptilians lets put all this hypothetical bull shit aside of a minute. We need to get organized. Im sick of sifting though thread after thread of crap that dusent get us any where. We need to form groups and come up with solutions to the real problems we are facing.

[void]

Considering that a huge amount of people on this forum are obsessively anti-Jewish and seem to blame everything that is going in the world and our individual lives on them, then I can't see me joining forces with them on any 'solution' any time soon.

[catfood]

Considering that a huge amount of people on this forum are obsessively anti-Jewish and seem to blame everything that is going in the world and our individual lives on them, then I can't see me joining forces with them on any 'solution' any time soon.

yes there are a lot of people who it would not be wise to work with finding solutions to there conceived problems. that sed there are also people who would be good to work with.
Maby this forum has gone to the dogs and I am wasting my breathe.

[skunksmash]

too true......;)

its all well & good having the ''knowledge'' but if we cant find a way of putting what we know into action, then what odds has finding out all this stuff made..??

b/c when the s**t hits the fan the fact that we can all say ''i told you so'' is not going to cut it.....:(

at the same time i also wonder about what can ''actually'' be done.... when the OP says ''get organised'' im sure he's reffering to your own family & being ready to shield them from the crap thats coming.....

i'd like to think we as individuals could band together & create change, but history shows us that the ''overt'' protesters get trampled or locked away....

now many will say...''oh you shouldn't be worried about that, just speak your mind'' while fundamentally i believe this to be right, its certainly not practical especially as a father.... they cart me away to a prison for speaking my mind & my wife & kids are left to fend for themselves..... & the likelihood is they will be rounded up with the rest of the sheep to serve the system while i rot in jail with my ''free thought'' :rolleyes:


i think maybe the best way to fight them is destruction from within.....

i.e. get out there & get a job as a police officer or council worker & influence who & what you can from inside.... this is one of the methods they employ ''infiltration'' ....

just like icke says..... ''if you come out openly with something which is out of the norm your gonna be silenced'', but if you let them belive you serve the ''agenda'' you have far greater potential for changing things...


its pretty worrying at times.......





:)SK

[wise haven]

yes there are a lot of people who it would not be wise to work with finding solutions to there conceived problems. that sed there are also people who would be good to work with.
Maby this forum has gone to the dogs and I am wasting my breathe.

No, I just think too many have got used to talking/posting rather than doing.

There have been many threads started urging us all to organise etc etc - but what is needed is a course of action or plan that everyone will agree to participate in. Until that consensus is achieved, nothing will happen.

[dreamweaver]

i.e. get out there & get a job as a police officer or council worker & influence who & what you can from inside.... this is one of the methods they employ ''infiltration''

There is a long, sorry history of people joining the police to try and "change them from within", only to end up changed themselves or chewed up and spat out. They've already banned officers from being members of the BNP - not an organisation I support, but it does beg the question "who's next?" The police are being turned into mind-controlled stooges and free-thinkers would be rooted out before they even got through training, I suspect. Worse still, they could even manipulate and blackmail people into becoming "double agents".

Oh, and I agree with void about the dodgy elements who've found a home on the board, I wouldn't want to work with them either.

Anyway, to return to the central point, I think it would be good if people on the forum could find a way of working together to engage in the outside world. People have discussed leafleting, that could be a way of starting.

[wise haven]

There is a long, sorry history of people joining the police to try and "change them from within", only to end up changed themselves or chewed up and spat out. They've already banned officers from being members of the BNP - not an organisation I support, but it does beg the question "who's next?" The police are being turned into mind-controlled stooges and free-thinkers would be rooted out before they even got through training, I suspect. Worse still, they could even manipulate and blackmail people into becoming "double agents".

Oh, and I agree with void about the dodgy elements who've found a home on the board, I wouldn't want to work with them either.

Anyway, to return to the central point, I think it would be good if people on the forum could find a way of working together to engage in the outside world. People have discussed leafleting, that could be a way of starting.
It is too late to start to try and change things from within.

Things will come to a head in the next 6 months or so - so we better come up with something pretty damn quick.

This is it folks - what we have suspected was happening will happen and it won't be enough to say "I told you so" to all the naysayers and slumbering sheep.

[grachtengordel]

Considering that a huge amount of people on this forum are obsessively anti-Jewish and seem to blame everything that is going in the world and our individual lives on them, then I can't see me joining forces with them on any 'solution' any time soon.

enough already! just quit with this rubbish right now. are you an 'agent' sent to convince people that all jews are totally paranoid and entirely focused on promoting and perpetuating some persecution complex?

if this forum is so bad then why are you even here?
to search threads for anything you can twist and misinterpret as vindication of your asburd paraniod delusions of persecution?

Things will come to a head in the next 6 months or so - so we better come up with something pretty damn quick.

thats what i was thinking 6 months ago

[belial]

Ok planes no-planes, reptilians no-reptilians lets put all this hypothetical bull shit aside of a minute. We need to get organized. Im sick of sifting though thread after thread of crap that dusent get us any where. We need to form groups and come up with solutions to the real problems we are facing.


Yep... I've been saying this for a while.

This forum is fast turning into the Daily Mail 'Comments' section... i.e. everyone has a rant and ultimately: the problem still exists.

A lot of people just argue with each other/boost their ego on here. This doesn't solve the bigger problem.

I agree, it's time to get organised and put our heads together.

Just one thought... if some of us do come up with some good ideas, can we not publish it on here so TPTB can then see what we are thinking and then ruin our best-laid plans?

[gilly]

It may appear that I'm being negative or argumentative, but I promise you I'm not - I've thought about this for some time.

Ever since learning of the NWO, I've been saying that there's no point knowing if you're not going to do anything.

The problem is, I absolutely don't know what to do.

Someone on a thread suggested becoming a Freeman, and while this has its clear merits, (a). My husband is what you lot refer to as a sheep and has told me clearly that he doesn't want to know, and (b). I don't believe that will make a scrap of difference when the hammer falls.

I chose not to express those concerns to the poster, because his advice was given with kind intent.

I've thought of leafleting, but with no disrespect intended to anyone on the forum, we know, but don't know what to do about it - imagine that we managed to leaftlet everybody, and they all read it & understood it - what then? Would anybody know what to do to put a stop to it, or be able to form an agreement on what approach to adopt?

So, I've written a few letters of protest here & there & signed petitions, in the knowledge that I'm probably achieving nothing at all.

If anyone can suggest some practical solution, I'll be all ears (or in this case eyes).

[dreamweaver]

Yep... I've been saying this for a while.

This forum is fast turning into the Daily Mail 'Comments' section... i.e. everyone has a rant and ultimately: the problem still exists.

A lot of people just argue with each other/boost their ego on here. This doesn't solve the bigger problem.

I agree, it's time to get organised and put our heads together.

Just one thought... if some of us do come up with some good ideas, can we not publish it on here so TPTB can then see what we are thinking and then ruin our best-laid plans?

I think one thing we could possibly unite around is the British Constitution Group. The meeting in Stoke drew together people like John Harris, Brian Gerrish, Albert Burgess and so on and quite a few board members met up there. Their next big meeting is at Friends House in London on 13 June. Maybe we could hold some kind of fringe meeting around that?

[void]

enough already! just quit with this rubbish right now. are you an 'agent' sent to convince people that all jews are totally paranoid and entirely focused on promoting and perpetuating some persecution complex? if this forum is so bad then why are you even here? to search threads for anything you can twist and misinterpret as vindication of your asburd paraniod delusions of persecution?

Well, it appears so far in the replies that it is only yourself who has viewed my comments about anti Jewry being absolutely rife on this board, as 'rubbish'. Am I wrong to counter what is very clearly there and increasingly so? I don't believe so. Is this a suggestion that I'm not allowed to counter absurd claims about the whole Jewish people that are increasingly weaving into most topics? I hope not. It is actually lots of other people that are obsessed with the Jews. Not myself. By all means people, carry on with all this anti Jewry, but know that I will reply to claims that I recognize are based on the same kind of rumour mongering that has been going on for more than a 1000 years and led to hell for the Jews in Russia and Eastern Europe. Dangerous rumours in a time of world anxiety and despair.

Sound familiar?

It's the same old game of sick rumours and mistrust of Jews that took place during Medeival times, re-wrapped for a new generation, and hiding amongst the conspiracy theory field increasingly. You ask why I'm even here on this forum. I'm here because I'm attracted to 'some' of the things that David has said, mostly the increasing totalitarianism of the state. Quite a lot of that is not something original that David came up with, but he has a particularly eloquent way of putting it (even though sometimes he looks like he's going to have a heart attack on stage) that attractsme, and thats' why I come here. Unfortunately I find that often I end up seeing a lot of silly anti Jewry in most threads I read. I didn't come here to get involved in countering it, but it feels right to counter dangerous ideas that are taking root (particularly in the UK) about Jews, because of anger about Israel.

Btw, no I'm not an agent. Not even an estate agent :p

[wise haven]

Belial, Gilly, Dreamweaver,

We have everything we need to get things started right now - but it will take a massive amount of effort for every single member of this forum and others to promote the idea.
The best plan is a simple plan - and that is something I can offer but it will need people to leave their comfort zones for a while and put their cynicism on the back boiler.
As Belial said "don't publish it here" and I won't.

Just a few more t's to cross and i's to dot :)

[catfood]

I think one thing we could possibly unite around is the British Constitution Group. The meeting in Stoke drew together people like John Harris, Brian Gerrish, Albert Burgess and so on and quite a few board members met up there. Their next big meeting is at Friends House in London on 13 June. Maybe we could hold some kind of fringe meeting around that?

Yes the first step should be a meeting face to face. That way we can really discus the situation.
Just a thought but any one attending should prepare there own interpretations of the situation, there ideal out come, the problems and some possible solutions to the problems. This would let us get to know what each other was all about and also kick of a good discussion of the issues.

[skunksmash]

It may appear that I'm being negative or argumentative, but I promise you I'm not - I've thought about this for some time.

Ever since learning of the NWO, I've been saying that there's no point knowing if you're not going to do anything.

The problem is, I absolutely don't know what to do.

Someone on a thread suggested becoming a Freeman, and while this has its clear merits, (a). My husband is what you lot refer to as a sheep and has told me clearly that he doesn't want to know, and (b). I don't believe that will make a scrap of difference when the hammer falls.

I chose not to express those concerns to the poster, because his advice was given with kind intent.

I've thought of leafleting, but with no disrespect intended to anyone on the forum, we know, but don't know what to do about it - imagine that we managed to leaftlet everybody, and they all read it & understood it - what then? Would anybody know what to do to put a stop to it, or be able to form an agreement on what approach to adopt?

So, I've written a few letters of protest here & there & signed petitions, in the knowledge that I'm probably achieving nothing at all.

If anyone can suggest some practical solution, I'll be all ears (or in this case eyes).

this is the problem...... most are happy or feel safer to live in denial, until their personal liberties are infringed upon & by then its the 11th hour & were all being carted into concentration camps.....:(


i have a mate in London who works for securicor & has done for 11 years, now this guy is a true ''product of the system'' he has urine tests & fingerprint scans wherever he goes...

i was down there last week & i was telling him how they know what he eats, where he goes, what he spends, & who his contacts are... be it friends or family....

& do you know what his answer to that was..?? ''what do i care, im not doing anything wrong'' :eek::eek:

this is the mentality they have created & they've done a bloody good job at it too.....




:)SK

[gilly]

Belial, Gilly, Dreamweaver,

We have everything we need to get things started right now - but it will take a massive amount of effort for every single member of this forum and others to promote the idea.
The best plan is a simple plan - and that is something I can offer but it will need people to leave their comfort zones for a while and put their cynicism on the back boiler.
As Belial said "don't publish it here" and I won't.

Just a few more t's to cross and i's to dot :)

Waiting with baited breath! :)

How will we communicate, so as not to make it public or be intercepted?

[dreamweaver]

Waiting with baited breath! :)

How will we communicate, so as not to make it public or be intercepted?

Suggest we contact each other by pm first. :)

[anthony65]

And I thought the title meant "Get Orgonized" ;)

***

Hold on a second.... :confused:

This is an internet discussion forum.

We're a handful of people scattered around the globe (which is nice).

The DI Forum provides a platform to discuss a wide range of subjects that are sometimes mainstream and often not (which is also nice).

We can potentially discuss anything here with a few like-minded individuals, a few interested observers and a few shit-stirrers.

Such is an Internet Forum.

I would argue that the forum does do a lot of good, not least by providing a source of information for many people with questions about what the fuck is going on in the world.

The Forum naturally has limitations.

But most of us have lives outside of the forum and a variety of interests.

Many of us are doing things that make the world a better place in one way or another.

As for changing things...

Each one of us should do what we feel is appropriate.

I believe that this all goes very deep.

I believe that there is a spiritual dimension to it.

And I know that there are a lot of good people around the world devoting every day of their lives to building a better world... :)

[gilly]

[QUOTE=skunksmash;853453]this is the problem...... most are happy or feel safer to live in denial, until their personal liberties are infringed upon & by then its the 11th hour & were all being carted into concentration camps.....:(


i have a mate in London who works for securicor & has done for 11 years, now this guy is a true ''product of the system'' he has urine tests & fingerprint scans wherever he goes...

i was down there last week & i was telling him how they know what he eats, where he goes, what he spends, & who his contacts are... be it friends or family....

& do you know what his answer to that was..?? ''what do i care, im not doing anything wrong'' :eek::eek:

I've told my husband I'll respect his desire for ignorance (he may sound stupid, but he's highly intelligent, just very stubborn) - until it's time he NEEDS to know, & then he'd beteter pin back his ears - you can't force people to take you seriously if they're determined not to.

It's not just my husband - my mum doesn't want to know, & nor do most other people I've spoken to.

i've a brother & sister who are well up on it - in fact, while 9/11 was being broadcast as it was actually in progress, my brother told me it was a false flag (& I thought he was mental at the time).

[beldazar]

No I dont have a clue what to do either :(

David Icke mentioned one suggestion of rallying round the neighbours to stop any evictions, taking turns for each other.

I mentioned this to my neighbour a couple of days ago after chatting about riots not being a good idea.
She said they would bring in 'reinforcements' for refusing to co-operate and where would we all be hiked off to for our 'disobedience'.......

Ah fuk it, Its on our toes then I reckon....could be fun, be like living in a real-life adventure game....:( :rolleyes: :cool:

[grachtengordel]

Well, it appears so far in the replies that it is only yourself who has viewed my comments about anti Jewry being absolutely rife on this board, as 'rubbish'.

because they don't want to help you de-rail this thread with your 'off topic' diversions into politics.

[anthony65]

[QUOTE=skunksmash;853453]this is the problem...... most are happy or feel safer to live in denial, until their personal liberties are infringed upon & by then its the 11th hour & were all being carted into concentration camps.....:(


i have a mate in London who works for securicor & has done for 11 years, now this guy is a true ''product of the system'' he has urine tests & fingerprint scans wherever he goes...

i was down there last week & i was telling him how they know what he eats, where he goes, what he spends, & who his contacts are... be it friends or family....

& do you know what his answer to that was..?? ''what do i care, im not doing anything wrong'' :eek::eek:

I've told my husband I'll respect his desire for ignorance (he may sound stupid, but he's highly intelligent, just very stubborn) - until it's time he NEEDS to know, & then he'd beteter pin back his ears - you can't force people to take you seriously if they're determined not to.

It's not just my husband - my mum doesn't want to know, & nor do most other people I've spoken to.

i've a brother & sister who are well up on it - in fact, while 9/11 was being broadcast as it was actually in progress, my brother told me it was a false flag (& I thought he was mental at the time).

These are the kind of experiences that conviced me that there is more to all this than meets the eye. Most of us have experienced the same. These people would argue about 1001 different things, but there are certain subjects where...

Ping!

"Don't care", "Don't want to know", "Looney!", "Give it a rest"... :mad:

Matrix? Mind control? Off world influences?

Summat's up! :cool:

[skunksmash]

because they don't want to help you de-rail this thread with your 'off topic' diversions into politics.

EXACTLY!! what seems to happen to every decent thread.....;)




:)SK

[dreamweaver]

David Icke mentioned one suggestion of rallying round the neighbours to stop any evictions, taking turns for each other.
Did he say that? Brilliant. :cool:

I've been suggesting a few times that people should be doing exactly that but not had much response so far. I was thinking back to the times of opposition to the poll tax, when people rallied round to stop the bailiffs dispossessing their neighbours.

[Anders Lindman]

The problem I see with organizations is that they are just another form of power pyramids. It would be better to focus on the individual. Screw the hive minds.

[beldazar]

Did he say that? Brilliant. :cool:

I've been suggesting a few times that people should be doing exactly that but not had much response so far. I was thinking back to the times of opposition to the poll tax, when people rallied round to stop the bailiffs dispossessing their neighbours.


Yes, this is a clip from his "Please dont Riot article"

The protests need to be targeted at non-cooperation, refusing to accept laws that ban assembly by massive numbers turning up; surrounding the homes of neighbours when the bank bailiffs come to put them on the street; and so filling the locations of government and finance with masses of people that the system cannot function

Perhaps it is a good idea :)

[wise haven]

Waiting with baited breath! :)

How will we communicate, so as not to make it public or be intercepted?

Details, details - that is where a plan can be derailed as so often happens on here.
That is not a rebuke though Gilly :)

I have the ultimate plan to derail the NWO/Globalists.....it is very simple but needs some faith and a resolution from everyone who wants to achieve it to stick to the plan religiously so that it can work.

I have been working on this since I first stumbled on the Icke forum - a couple of years now.

It will work - 100% sure of that. It will work because it turns round every tactic they use against us and is thrown back at them - which will be devastating because they will not and have never had it done to them.

All I need to get started is a place to start a main forum subject and then I can roll it out step by step.
It is totally duplicatable and can be taken up in its entirety by any other nation to achieve the same aim "Bringing down the NWO" :D

I'm excited - are you???

[gilly]

Details, details - that is where a plan can be derailed as so often happens on here.
That is not a rebuke though Gilly :)

I have the ultimate plan to derail the NWO/Globalists.....it is very simple but needs some faith and a resolution from everyone who wants to achieve it to stick to the plan religiously so that it can work.

I have been working on this since I first stumbled on the Icke forum - a couple of years now.

It will work - 100% sure of that. It will work because it turns round every tactic they use against us and is thrown back at them - which will be devastating because they will not and have never had it done to them.

All I need to get started is a place to start a main forum subject and then I can roll it out step by step.
It is totally duplicatable and can be taken up in its entirety by any other nation to achieve the same aim "Bringing down the NWO" :D

I'm excited - are you???

Absolutely can't wait!!!!!!!!!

[polveirbecker]

Really what we need to do is start a face to face group that sticks together as a group day in day out. The New World Order isn’t a part time job nor is fighting it. I think the best thing people on this forum could come up with is a group of us who have no emotional commitments what so ever like with family or your lover or kids.

I think that once a group of us break from this society a lot more will follow.

[skunksmash]

my brother in law is a SGT in the MET, i have been showing him little by little what the world is coming to, he agrees, he said its like working for an estate agents at the station...:(

he says they're teams work on a points system...... more arrests = more points for the set team.... higher priority arrests = more points than a slight breech of the law...


he told me they are encouraged to make an arrest NO MATTER WHAT!! :mad:
if they arrive at a domestic for instance which has blown over by the time they get there, these officers are ''encouraged'' to bait an arrest..

he also told me ''traffic wardens'' have been issued cards which will give them the same powers as police officers should the need for more arrive...

he's actually in training for the TSG ''tactical support group'' which are basically the meat head riot police we will all be seeing very soon..:( so no doubt we will meet on the field of battle....


someone create some good leaflets & i will plaster Norfolk in them....:p



:)SK

[capi777]

I am in the US and I have been involved in some acts that were not only fun but had the result of huge media attention. There is a way this can be done and quickly. I know you have all heard of something known as Flash Mob. If not check out this link:
Flash mob - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So here is my thought. If more people knew what was going on the more will non-comply with the agenda of the NWO. That being said, I think it is time for the EVOLUTION OF THE FLASH MOB. Unfortunately, the name of the act is a little derogative but the act is one that will draw huge amounts of attention from the media and at the least the people that are in the area this is taking place.

The media loves to gom onto these things especially if they are planned using the means of viral emails and scial media.

So, a call (email, blog post, etc..) goes out that we are to meet up at a specific location (a public place with lots of people) in a few hours and do a specific act (everyone where the same T-shirt and sing a song, anything...) and then disperse following that act.

Even if the authorities get wind of where and when this will take place, because the call to gather will go out only a couple of hours before it will be very hard for the ptb to react. Even if there are not police around, this needs to be a NONVIOLENT ACTION.

This act needs to be recorded by people associated with the flash mob but don't actually participate. A couple of hours after the event we call media and offer our "footage" of the flash mob's activity of the day. Then we issue a statement as to the nature of the flash mob....This is where we get more indepth into why this was done.

Like I said , I participated in a few of these gatherings here in the States. These were just done for fun....but the method is ingenius.

There are many people on this board and I have a feeling that many more would want to join in just because it would be fun. After the fun is over I can guarantee some people who didn't know "why" this was happening but had joined in the Flash Mob would be all about getting involved. The specifics would have to be worked out but I think this would be a great avenue to get the word out!

Power to the Peaceful!

[wise haven]

I REALLY DO HAVE THE ULTIMATE PLAN

On this forum we have real LEADERS - they have proved this by breaking away from the mass mindset and not accepting the bullshit that is being fed to us as real. This breaking away has, for some of us, resulted in a certain isolation and in some cases ridicule but they/we have persevered.......it takes independence of mind and strength of character to do that - a massively positive asset.

On the negative side: We are cynical and resistant to following or believing anyone apart from our own opinions - this is what works against us and stops us being effective.
Therefore a compromise is to stop being leaders for a teeny weeny period of time and agree to follow a plan for long enough to be convinced until we are convinced of its viability.

This plan needs a helluva lot of leaders (which the anti-NWO community has in abundance) who only need to follow for a short time until it starts to work and we are joined by those who tend to be of the "follower" mindset.

So, as I have said, I have a plan to present shortly that will have plenty of space for leaders after an initial period of "acting in faith and goodwill" until the momentum begins.

THE PLAN WILL WORK - If we stop fucking around and discussing the ins and outs of a gnats arse long enough to get this ball rolling, which it will :D

Please can a MOD get me a main forum space to get this moving :D

[grachtengordel]

my brother in law is a SGT in the MET,......

he also told me ''traffic wardens'' have been issued cards which will give them the same powers as police officers should the need for more arrive...

this has been mentioned by David Icke also, he said a traffic warden told him so and sent him their 'pace' (arrest schpiel) cards. said the police would be busy with major 'unrest' , so the traffic wardens or 'civil enforcement officers' (as they have been rebranded in essex) will do the piddly 'policy' police work

[gilly]

this has been mentioned by David Icke also, he said a traffic warden told him so and sent him their 'pace' (arrest schpiel) cards. said the police would be busy with major 'unrest' , so the traffic wardens or 'civil enforcement officers' (as they have been rebranded in essex) will do the piddly 'policy' police work

Blood & snot! Just the type wankers you want getting their hands on a bit more power! :mad:

[mightiswrong]

You know when you come into land in England and you see that patchwork of fields with hedgerows around them and it is oh so green... well I have pictured it changing... People are going to take those little fields and plant gardens and live there and make this into a truely wonderful country. It really is the most radical thing you can do. Imagine the scent of all the flowers wafting across your domain and the happy smiles of your children as they play under your kin's oak. The twittering of the birds and the abundance of fresh food everywhere. It is going to happen. Of that I am sure. No centralised leadership needed. People will just adopt the dream.

[wise haven]

this has been mentioned by David Icke also, he said a traffic warden told him so and sent him their 'pace' (arrest schpiel) cards. said the police would be busy with major 'unrest' , so the traffic wardens or 'civil enforcement officers' (as they have been rebranded in essex) will do the piddly 'policy' police work

True - But isn't it shocking that this has been being put into place for a considerable amount of time now?

Did you know that the Home office has the power to hand over control from civilian law enforcement to military jurisdiction as and when the situation requires?
This has been in place for a long, long time - I know because I have been involved with these scenarios. Usually the protocol requires a transfer of power back to civilian control immediately after the situation - If it is appropriate. However, under a prolonged incident the control can be kept for as long as is necessary. This authority resides with COBRA level individuals and can be implemented as and when they desire.

The UK could pass from a "Rule of Law" society to one which is controlled by the military and no one would know the difference until someone finds they are being detained outside of the usual rules of arrest and detention.


Food for thought hey?:cool:

[mightiswrong]

Standing out at dawn as the drizzle carresses your body oh so softly remembering how it once was with the knowledge that you have done it. That the future is now secure for the generations that will follow (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56358).

[wise haven]

You know when you come into land in England and you see that patchwork of fields with hedgerows around them and it is oh so green... well I have pictured it changing... People are going to take those little fields and plant gardens and live there and make this into a truely wonderful country. It really is the most radical thing you can do. Imagine the scent of all the flowers wafting across your domain and the happy smiles of your children as they play under your kin's oak. The twittering of the birds and the abundance of fresh food everywhere. It is going to happen. Of that I am sure. No centralised leadership needed. People will just adopt the dream.
We could all have that wonderful country - all around the world but it has been stolen from us by those that manufacture the boxes of the mind that we so easily accept as presents.
Until we stop accepting and consenting to these "gifts" or privileges they present us with we will all be slaves in an urban nightmare of structured work and play that we all want to escape.

Our box is one that we accepted and now seek to escape.

[sedate_solution]

I do wanna help out bringing about the change in humanity that we speak of, however I find it very difficult to trust 100% individuals on this board.

Also no doubt I'm being catalogued and profiled by the state for simply being a member of this board !

[anthony65]

I do wanna help out bringing about the change in humanity that we speak of, however I find it very difficult to trust 100% individuals on this board.

Also no doubt I'm being catalogued and profiled by the state for simply being a member of this board !

Get ideas and inspiration from the board.

Turn them into reality with people you know. :)

[reptileslayer]

And I thought the title meant "Get Orgonized" ;)

***

Hold on a second.... :confused:

This is an internet discussion forum.

We're a handful of people scattered around the globe (which is nice).

The DI Forum provides a platform to discuss a wide range of subjects that are sometimes mainstream and often not (which is also nice).

We can potentially discuss anything here with a few like-minded individuals, a few interested observers and a few shit-stirrers.

Such is an Internet Forum.

I would argue that the forum does do a lot of good, not least by providing a source of information for many people with questions about what the fuck is going on in the world.

The Forum naturally has limitations.

But most of us have lives outside of the forum and a variety of interests.

Many of us are doing things that make the world a better place in one way or another.

As for changing things...

Each one of us should do what we feel is appropriate.

I believe that this all goes very deep.

I believe that there is a spiritual dimension to it.

And I know that there are a lot of good people around the world devoting every day of their lives to building a better world... :)
What a pile of ducking and diving waffle mate, show some BALLS youre showing as much strength as a bottle of piss water.

[nirvana]

If anyone wants to form groups etc ,put add in meetups .
Theres loads of us who are frustrated etc,and the longer we take to get these groups going the harder the battle will be.


Peace:)

[danster82]

Ok well I think it would be wise to prepare just as precaution things which will be useful during an economic collapse. I am not pushing fear this is just realism, what could one do now that will turn out to be highly beneficial for the people in your surrounding area. Ideas that are designed around the self are meaningless ideas they have to help others.

[sedate_solution]

If anyone wants to form groups etc ,put add in meetups .
Theres loads of us who are frustrated etc,and the longer we take to get these groups going the harder the battle will be.


Peace:)

Where is 'meetups' place on this board !

[wise haven]

Aaaaaahh!

Once again a thread trying to stimulate members into action has died a death as we all sink, once again into obscurity :(

Is this all we can muster?

A few hours of enthusiasm then back to quiet acquiesence to the system that we all decry.....

Shame on you all :rolleyes:

[skunksmash]

im still waiting for your ''sure fire plan'' ......;)




:)SK

[reptileslayer]

im still waiting for your ''sure fire plan'' ......;)




:)SK
Cut the sarcasm skunksmash, show some Balls and lend an hand, give the guy
a chance, instead of knocking his suggestions to make yourself feel better.
I will get back to you guys later, with some of my ideas also.

[dreamweaver]

Aaaaaahh!

Once again a thread trying to stimulate members into action has died a death as we all sink, once again into obscurity :(

Is this all we can muster?

A few hours of enthusiasm then back to quiet acquiesence to the system that we all decry.....

Shame on you all :rolleyes:

I was out for a bit, wise haven.

I still think a fringe meeting after the British Constitution Group meeting (or even just meeting up in a pub during the lunch break) would be a good way to get the ball rolling.

What do you plan on doing before then?

[capi777]

I still think the evolution of the Flash Mob idea has some weight to get the word out to more folks.
I have been thinking for a long time that the shit was going to hit the fan. It hasn't yet so I think there is time to still wake up more folks.

This is a form of direct action that gets quick results.
To affect any change we need mass amounts of people who are awake as well as all of those on the verge that need just a little encouragement.

The result of this kind of action will be the attraction of more people to the groups like this where we have knowledge of the plans of the NWO.

As others have noted, our neighbors are our greatest asset. Let's get together and become more human before it becomes necessary to do so!
If we can chose to agree on the important things I think we will find that we agree on much more than we thought.:D

Power to the Peaceful!

[dreamweaver]

I still think the evolution of the Flash Mob idea has some weight to get the word out to more folks.
Sounds like a good plan. :)

[wise haven]

I was out for a bit, wise haven.

I still think a fringe meeting after the British Constitution Group meeting (or even just meeting up in a pub during the lunch break) would be a good way to get the ball rolling.

What do you plan on doing before then?

Your idea is indeed part of the plan - so are many others.

The good thing is that, over time, we have come up with the ideas we need to make it all work. All it takes now is to coordinate, organise and mobilize all these ideas and the people necessary to make it succeed.

I am not being cagey about the plan - just making sure that when it hits the presses it will be the right time and can be followed through. Unfortunately it is a one time, must succeed idea.....if it does not get the momentum needed, when needed, it will grind to a halt. So, the only limiting factor is whether people take to the plan and run with it. The plan is sound, and will work - but if no one runs with it - it will fail. The question is: Have people been so conditioned to accept their fate, as dictated by TPTB, so well that they do not recognise an opportunity to empower themselves?
If that is the case - we are doomed :(
If not - we have a ,more than, fighting chance.

[skunksmash]

Cut the sarcasm skunksmash, show some Balls and lend an hand, give the guy
a chance, instead of knocking his suggestions to make yourself feel better.
I will get back to you guys later, with some of my ideas also.

oh god..... another, have a go hero :rolleyes:

there was no sarcasm intended, im just as interested as everyone else....

but as i stated in an earlier post, im not free to go all ''gun-hoe'' like you (obvious) renegades...

but please, enlighten us reptileslayer with your no doubt earth shattering idea's ....







:)SK

[capi777]

I started a thread last week that I think will be useful info here. Many resources about NonViolent Direct Action. Check it out:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56605

[wise haven]

oh god..... another, have a go hero :rolleyes:

there was no sarcasm intended, im just as interested as everyone else....

but as i stated in an earlier post, im not free to go all ''gun-hoe'' like you (obvious) renegades...

but please, enlighten us reptileslayer with your no doubt earth shattering idea's ....
:)SK

No problems skunkmash - this isn't a "GUNG-HO" sort of plan. It is carefully thought out and needs people who will think and question - as most people on this forum and others like it will do.
However, it does need a consensus to make it work. The best way to get a consensus is for us all to look at the bigger picture for a change.
The time for debate is over - we have all exhausted most discussion points over the years and it is surely the time to actually do something rather talk about it as has become the norm unfortunately.

Lets give it a go, hey?

[skunksmash]

ok wise haven.....:) let us know what you think we should do...??, i will happily follow if its a viable plan......;) & my kids are not left fatherless....lol

im up for some motivational action, its something i feel quite passionately about..



:)SK

[wise haven]

ok wise haven.....:) let us know what you think we should do...??, i will happily follow if its a viable plan......;) & my kids are not left fatherless....lol

im up for some motivational action, its something i feel quite passionately about..



:)SK
This isn't the place to lay it all out in the open but here is a first pointer to what we need:
1. We need leaders - ones who will question but not get bogged down in the detail and are prepared to put 100% into getting this off the ground (one to three months commitment)No cash, just time and initiative.

I feel passionate about this - like any other normal, reasonable awakened human being should do......because if we don't do something soon it will be too late and our kids will be f****d.

What puts it into perspective for me is this: On the 5th march Jade Goody got more coverage in the MSM than the fact that Avian flu was nearly distributed to 18 countries and could have been the start of a global pandemic. We are mushrooms.....kept in the dark and fed on shit.....because of our own complacent stupidity...........ENOUGH is what I say.

That is the first step - and as a father of four I can understand that you don't want to leave your children fatherless - neither do I :)

[terrafirma]

Aaaaaahh!

Once again a thread trying to stimulate members into action has died a death as we all sink, once again into obscurity :(

Is this all we can muster?

A few hours of enthusiasm then back to quiet acquiesence to the system that we all decry.....

Shame on you all :rolleyes:

I think we need regular, perhaps weekly meetings within our regions and less regular meetings involving those from all regions.

The reason why we, as individuals, find it impossible to step outside of our own safety net is because in doing so we face complete ridicule from those around us who don't understand our motives for wanting to escape it. That is without mentioning the responsibilities of parents to uphold and maintain the conformed life they live for the sake of their children, who could simply not fathom the motives behind any action that would put their current, seemingly fine, way of life in jeopardy.

We all feel isolated with our view of the world and where we should be going because, in perspective, we ARE isolated from the general view of the masses. We need to create communities within our associated regions, where possible. We need to feel less isolated with our views. We need to have people around us who share the same passion. Despite this forum, nothing compensates meeting face to face and discussing in the flesh. It makes you feel like you are a part of something because it is more of a percieved "reality" than an internet forum is. (I am pretty sure 99% of the discussions here would not invoke personal insults and general poor conduct towards others if they were initiated "in real life")

I think we all need to work towards the idea of becoming a political party of some sort. I am astounding the BNP get as much media coverage and votes as they do. We all have a difference of opinion but i think it is fair to say that we all have the same, broad, general view of where we want to be. None of our focus should be on 9/11, 7/7, Reptillians, Aliens, Freemasons, NWO, Chemtrails, Global Warming...it should be towards whatever our discussions and meetings decide but not these. These listed views also make us vulnerable to disregard without consideration. They shouldn't be at the forefront of our discussions/public policies.

However, i have no political knowledge, so i wouldn't know how to pursue this and where to start with regards to policies. I do think we need leaders and i think with time they will naturaly become leaders, the voice of the group, so to speak. Surely there is someone who knows how the political system works, the process that creates a political party...how it is done/what is needed?

I understand the fact that the political route is one that many do not favour, but i think that a step towards politics becoming less powerful in determining the factors that affect our lives, is for us to venture into politics. To weaken politics by being at the height of it? An absurd idea?

Of course, i'm sure there are people who are all too capable of shooting me down here!

Just my opinion, remember, however "pie in the sky" it may be, i'm interested in hearing everyones views on steps towards change.

[terrafirma]

This thread should have input from everyone! :D

[kappy0405]

so the general concensus is that we need to come together. Now to answer the OP's question, how do we do this??

I feel we need a completely separate forum dedicated solely to doing just that.. dedicated to organizing protests, marches, meetups, leaflet drops, etc. in every major region across the globe. We need to bring people together from all parts of our movement. That includes this forum, the wakeupproject people, the prisonplanet guys, thezeitgeistmovement, etc. etc.. It wouldn't be a discussion forum, just a place to get organized and inspire people to ACT for once.

To keep things as organized as possible, I would suggest that the forum is divided into subforums according to continent, then country, then state/province, then the major cities.. so we all have our own little place to make contact with people in our area for smaller meetups.

On top of that, there would have to be a massive global protest every month involving the whole community across the globe... like the first sunday of every month or something where we have huge get togethers in downtown areas. We could all bring leaflets, dvds, etc. to pass out to pedestrians.

We just need a single place to organize all this together... and even more importantly a way to publicize this across the internet as much as possible.. A joint-effort documentary would be a good start, similar to how the WUP guys gained publicity.. but this movement would bring EVERYONE interested in bringing down the NWO together, regardless of all the other trivial details we argue over.

I swear if I had the technical computer skills to do this, I would have done this by now.. SOMEONE DO THIS!!! I now offer my promise of $100 donation for purchasing bandwidth or whatever as soon as someone gets this up & running. I know a lot of people here would be willing to donate to this cause, no? Let's do it..

[bluehorseman]

I don't mean to be a downer here but I feel this rebelion has to happen soon...

The prophesies are coming to fruition...

1. Create world economic collapse - well halfway there anyway so tick.
2. Start new world economic system - tick
3. Control masses through food shortages, energy shortages etc. - starting so tick
4. Control world finance through centralised global computer. - in the pipeline...
5. Microchip population.

At the moment the dow is where it was at during the 90s - or the profit that was made between the 90s to now has been lost/stolen. If it levels off here and stabilises at 6500 then o.k I can live with how it was in the 90's. The problem is if it keeps falling, and if it keeps falling at the rate it is and if it is a plan then you've got to wonder how much time is left until global financial failure and considering the dow was at around 12000 one year ago you can reasonably surmise that we've got 6 months left at the current rate cause if it drops below 3000 who knows what it'll be like.

Lets get busy.

When thinking of a model society that I would like to replace the current one I'm all for the tribal over the feudal, capitalist, communist etc, where the direction of the group is monitored by a group of elders directed by the shamen/women, a tribal council (members selected by either election or by completing some type of physical and mental competition) and where the day is organised around perpetuating the tribe through nourishment, safety, housing, healthcare etc. I see this as a natural progression for society once we have rebelled against the nwo and won in about 10-15 years time, because in that time frame we will have learnt how to farm in groups because farming and building structures is the traditional use of slaves.

At the moment its hard to rebel because the sheeple don't see anything to fight against, however in 1 year maybe there will be. My point here is that although we might be a on the back foot a bit in tackling the nwo now (due to a more than likely financial meltdown) its still good to start the battle against the enemy as it is now but I think the real action will happen in about 6 months to a year when more people wake up and this is the catalyst that should be planned for. We'll have more numbers, more numbers = more power.

My thoughts anyway - count me in on whatever you're thinking wise haven, I want to protect my kids too so I'll listen to your plan.

[dreamweaver]

I swear if I had the technical computer skills to do this, I would have done this by now.. SOMEONE DO THIS!!! I now offer my promise of $100 donation for purchasing bandwidth or whatever as soon as someone gets this up & running. I know a lot of people here would be willing to donate to this cause, no? Let's do it..
I already have the skills and webspace to do this, I run a successful music forum and have capacity to spare to build a new one. It was one thing I was going to suggest but I didn't think Sean would be keen on the idea of using his board to publicise another forum.

If it's OK with Sean, then fine. And also if people can trust me with being admin of such a board of course.

[anthony65]

What a pile of ducking and diving waffle mate, show some BALLS youre showing as much strength as a bottle of piss water.

That depends on how you define strength.

Your definition and mine are very different apparently.

You can talk big, but how big are you really?

I recommended someone here to get ideas and inspiration from the board and turn that into action in their own community. I wouldn't trust some of the gung ho brigade posting on this thread for example.

That's what I do.

I defined what I felt the forum is here to do.

I stressed that I see this as a spiritual / off-world battle as much as a physical one, but I do believe that we need to take action on a practical, everyday basis.

Do you know what I believe strength is?

Strength is the moral courage to face reality in the face and search for truth while retaining your humanity.

Strength is living with a loving heart in a materialistic, demonically inspired civilization.

Strength is loving your children.

[bluehorseman]

The problem is they've got all the money, the mainstream media, they've brainwashed the majority of the people, they've got the military and police and associated systems and they want to take over the world. This is their part of their power.

All we have to do is find the solution.

I believe that most healthy systems run on a balance, the way to cancel out something is to introduce the opposite. Cancel out their media- don't watch/believe it; don't break their laws; don't spend your money - insist on being paid cash; deprogramme yourselves,children,family, neighbours. Don't let your supervisor bully you, don't work in fear of losing your job.

[bluehorseman]

Break your samskaras and routines and do things differently, so you are ready for when things become uncomfortable.

Begin to live like a warrior.

Get prepared and ready your mind for battle.

Think of exit strategies and weak spots in yourself and your enemies.

[skunksmash]

I already have the skills and webspace to do this, I run a successful music forum and have capacity to spare to build a new one. It was one thing I was going to suggest but I didn't think Sean would be keen on the idea of using his board to publicise another forum.

If it's OK with Sean, then fine. And also if people can trust me with being admin of such a board of course.

im an administrator on the largest ''Windows Vista'' support forum on the planet, now i already discussed the creation of a forum with the I.T. specialists i work with there.... (due to the fact it was getting a little too much with me trying to spread ''the truth'' through the support forum :o)

if need be im sure i can help set something up, but what would creating another forum do for us..??




:)SK

[anthony65]

im an administrator on the largest ''Windows Vista'' support forum on the planet, now i already discussed the creation of a forum with the I.T. specialists i work with there.... (due to the fact it was getting a little too much with me trying to spread ''the truth'' through the support forum :o)

if need be im sure i can help set something up, but what would creating another forum do for us..??




:)SK

Good question!

Maybe they mean a forum like this one on the David Icke forum which is for members only and is intended to be used to organize projects and meet ups and you only need to scroll down the page to find it... :D:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=39

[catfood]

I was out for a bit, wise haven.

I still think a fringe meeting after the British Constitution Group meeting (or even just meeting up in a pub during the lunch break) would be a good way to get the ball rolling.

What do you plan on doing before then?

I like your idea stoke on trent seems to be a good location. choosing a venue will depend on the suspected numbers.
It would be advantages if some delegates form the British Constitution Group were to take part.
Any thoughts on how to set this up so as to insure a group with a sufficient spectrum of skills? or is it just to be a case of suck it and see?

[dreamweaver]

I like your idea stoke on trent seems to be a good location. choosing a venue will depend on the suspected numbers.
It would be advantages if some delegates form the British Constitution Group were to take part.
Any thoughts on how to set this up so as to insure a group with a sufficient spectrum of skills? or is it just to be a case of suck it and see?

Ah, the next one is in London - Friends House on Euston Road. That's a larger venue than the Stoke one.

[catfood]

Ah, the next one is in London - Friends House on Euston Road. That's a larger venue than the Stoke one.

Stoke was nice and central. But the location so not so important to me as to what sort of people could be attending.
I have confidence that if this is done properly the turnout could be good, there are a lot of people who want to act but as of yet have not found any solutions or feel they are alone with there convictions.

[gilly]

I confess to being a bit scared of heading into London.

[dreamweaver]

I confess to being a bit scared of heading into London.

Wuss! :p

[gilly]

Wuss! :p

I know.

I just went 15 rounds with my 15 yr old daughter who wanted to go to a concert there with some of friends.

It just seems like a highly vulnerable false flag spot at the minute.

[catfood]

Any names for the meet?
I was thinking something along the lines of 'The discussion for positive change'

[catfood]

British Constitution Group:

Lawful Rebellion - What Next?

Conference – 13th June 2009 – Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road, London NW1 2BJ
£12.50

That is a Saturday and it is 13 weeks away. We could do it on the Sunday. if this comes off I would like to go to Lawful rebellion as well, I think it will tie in well.


A forum dedicated to the organization and implementation of positive change seems a good idea, one which cuts out all the speculative bull shit and sticks to simple truth.

[reptileslayer]

British Constitution Group:

Lawful Rebellion - What Next?

Conference – 13th June 2009 – Friends House, 173-177 Euston Road, London NW1 2BJ
£12.50

That is a Saturday and it is 13 weeks away. We could do it on the Sunday. if this comes off I would like to go to Lawful rebellion as well, I think it will tie in well.


A forum dedicated to the organization and implementation of positive change seems a good idea, one which cuts out all the speculative bull shit and sticks to simple truth.
This is good stuff catfood, i live in the lake district in cumbria, tho i am willing to travel for your meeting in london detailed above, and i also will bring as many people with me as possible. I am on limited funds, but as a start to this meeting i am willing to donate £100 to the effort and maybe some more funds will be possible. A central location (stoke birmingham) would be ideal for me, and probs many other people. But i understand the situation and London is ok as a starting point.

[dreamweaver]

Good question!

Maybe they mean a forum like this one on the David Icke forum which is for members only and is intended to be used to organize projects and meet ups and you only need to scroll down the page to find it... :D:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=39

I was thinking that perhaps forming one of those private groups on the board would be a good way to start for now.

But indeed let's use the private forum to get the ball rolling as you suggest - I don't think any specific planning should be done on that though, there's no vetting of who joins the board so it simply isn't secure enough. For instance, that tool from the Telegraph who was taunting people over Blackjack can see it.

So for greater security, a private group of members would be a good idea although that facility is quite limited, it's like having one big thread. It would be better still if we had an invite-only forum that only invited members can see. I know that's very cliquey but it will be necessary for some things. I'll ask Sean if he'd be prepared to let us have one. If not, that might be where it would possibly be useful to create a low-key board set up for that purpose.

P.S. Reptileslayer - Catfood's idea? Harrumph! It was my idea to hold a fringe meeting around the BC group meeting in London. ;)

[dreamweaver]

OK, let's continue the discussion in this thread where we have a bit more privacy: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57132 ;)

[reptileslayer]

I was thinking that perhaps forming one of those private groups on the board would be a good way to start for now.

But indeed let's use the private forum to get the ball rolling as you suggest - I don't think any specific planning should be done on that though, there's no vetting of who joins the board so it simply isn't secure enough. For instance, that tool from the Telegraph who was taunting people over Blackjack can see it.

So for greater security, a private group of members would be a good idea although that facility is quite limited, it's like having one big thread. It would be better still if we had an invite-only forum that only invited members can see. I know that's very cliquey but it will be necessary for some things. I'll ask Sean if he'd be prepared to let us have one. If not, that might be where it would possibly be useful to create a low-key board set up for that purpose.

P.S. Reptileslayer - Catfood's idea? Harrumph! It was my idea to hold a fringe meeting around the BC group meeting in London. ;)
Apologies dreamweaver, i understand that you are helping with the effort.

[dreamweaver]

Apologies dreamweaver, i understand that you are helping with the effort.

LOL, was only teasing - it's a collective effort and it's Catfood who got the ball rolling, plus Wise Haven and a few others.

I do think it's wise to continue the discussion in a bit more privacy though... http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57132

(although it's probably a good idea to bump up this one in General for a few days where it will be seen more)

[karmic]

And I thought the title meant "Get Orgonized" ;)

***

Hold on a second.... :confused:

This is an internet discussion forum.

We're a handful of people scattered around the globe (which is nice).

The DI Forum provides a platform to discuss a wide range of subjects that are sometimes mainstream and often not (which is also nice).

We can potentially discuss anything here with a few like-minded individuals, a few interested observers and a few shit-stirrers.

Such is an Internet Forum.

I would argue that the forum does do a lot of good, not least by providing a source of information for many people with questions about what the fuck is going on in the world.

The Forum naturally has limitations.

But most of us have lives outside of the forum and a variety of interests.

Many of us are doing things that make the world a better place in one way or another.

As for changing things...

Each one of us should do what we feel is appropriate.

I believe that this all goes very deep.

I believe that there is a spiritual dimension to it.

And I know that there are a lot of good people around the world devoting every day of their lives to building a better world... :)

i totally agree the world is changing rapidly on all levels, the speed at which people are awakening is amazing.

[anthony65]

i totally agree the world is changing rapidly on all levels, the speed at which people are awakening is amazing.

Cheers!

My post was I feel misinterpreted by some people, but it was written in reply to the OP which read as follows:

"Ok planes no-planes, reptilians no-reptilians lets put all this hypothetical bull shit aside of a minute. We need to get organized. Im sick of sifting though thread after thread of crap that dusent get us any where. We need to form groups and come up with solutions to the real problems we are facing."

The DI forum is here for us to discuss whatever we feel to be of importance.

I wanted to make that clear in my post.

I emphasized the spiritual component because I feel it is critical.

But the physical aspect is also important.

Focussing on only one aspect is wrong in my opinion.

Like the old story about the man with rotten teeth despite praying to God every day to have beautiful white teeth.

He never brushed his teeth.

Prayer / manifesting is not enough without action.

Action without spirituality is a dead end.

My opinion.

[nirvana]

I think one thing we could possibly unite around is the British Constitution Group. The meeting in Stoke drew together people like John Harris, Brian Gerrish, Albert Burgess and so on and quite a few board members met up there. Their next big meeting is at Friends House in London on 13 June. Maybe we could hold some kind of fringe meeting around that?


Yes linking up with the constitutional group is a move in the right direction.

Their forum http://www.tpuc.org/forum/


Peace:)

[fekdemasons]

Guys and Gals,

How about " Shelter thy Neighbour " as a slogan.

The Ethos would be

1/ Random acts of kindness and solidarity in your everyday life.
If you see an opportunity to help anyone with anything however trivial Just do it.

2/ When alighting from Tubes , trains and Buses , shout at the top of your voice. I LOVE YOU ALL. DOWN WITH THE NWO !!

3/ Make paper leaflets and distribute them by hand discreetly. Do not email.

Casually fold 50 or so in each pocket and wherever you are just engage people in conversation. If you only manage 5 leaflets and a success ratio of 2 in 5. THATS TWO MORE OF US AND TWO LESS OF THEM..

DO NOT STAY IN THE SAME SPOT , TRAVEL AROUND IN YOUR SPARE TIME AND TALK TO JOE PUBLIC. IF 500 PEOPLE AGREED TO DO THIS FOR ONE DAY ONLY.

WARNING , DO NOT HAND ANYONE A LEAFLET UNTILL YOU HAVE ENGAGED THEM IN CONVERSATION. ESTABLISH THEIR PRINCIPLES , PROFILE. IF YOU THINK A RISK OF THEM SENDING A COPY TO THE AUTHORITIES. POLITELY MOVE ON.

thats a start..

[catfood]

This is good stuff catfood, i live in the lake district in cumbria, tho i am willing to travel for your meeting in london detailed above, and i also will bring as many people with me as possible. I am on limited funds, but as a start to this meeting i am willing to donate £100 to the effort and maybe some more funds will be possible. A central location (stoke birmingham) would be ideal for me, and probs many other people. But i understand the situation and London is ok as a starting point.

I live in cumbria as well. Depending on numbers group transport might be an option.

[gilly]

*BUMP*

Anything to report on the masterplan yet? I'm itching to get started.

[gilly]

*BUMP again*

Anything?

[catfood]

Hello all sorry for my absence:o:o:o but my financial situation has took a bit of a tern for the worse, with this in mind i would like to suggest a collection of more locale meetings rather then one big one.
Im good for a Cambrian, Northumbrian ore just a north England meet.

[rynath]

I believe that most healthy systems run on a balance, the way to cancel out something is to introduce the opposite. Cancel out their media- don't watch/believe it; don't break their laws; don't spend your money - insist on being paid cash; deprogramme yourselves,children,family, neighbours. Don't let your supervisor bully you, don't work in fear of losing your job.

Introducing the opposite on a mass scale would have some very interesting effects. The last time I checked it is the people of this planet that make the entire control system work...so what would happen if the majority of the population backed off? Without us there is no system and nothing to control. No work, school, mail, shipping, manufacturing, shopping, driving...no oil consumption, tv, radio, farming, construction...well you get the idea.

I wonder what would happen after a few days or even a week? I'll even use their own political lingo against them...instead of a "Global Strike", how about an "Encompassing Attitude Adjustment Procedure".