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the worm that turned
08-03-2009, 09:42 AM
I haven't fully researched this yet as the site only went live last night but worth a look
http://www.juryteam.org/
Apparently it will be Independents forming a political party not influenced by the major parties (Labour, Libs, and Tories).
Immediately slightly sceptical as it is started by a Sir who is a former Tory, but could be proved wrong.
First question I have for any person intending to join is if they are Common Purpose!
killmicrosoft
08-03-2009, 10:13 AM
i dont know something doesn't sit right
redcaz
08-03-2009, 10:16 AM
It does seem a bit fishy. The elite do like to hijack causes and this could be another example of that.
cookie_dude
08-03-2009, 10:28 AM
Why would true Independents want to join a party?
sukyspook
08-03-2009, 10:51 AM
It's pro-Europe - absolutely no change there then:
Proposal: European Legislation applied appropriately
No European directive should be enacted or enforced by secondary legislation in a stricter way than is the practice in any other European country deemed compliant for that directive by the European Commission.
http://www.juryteam.org/proposal.php?number=6
My advice - to myself if to no-one else - DON'T WASTE YOUR ENERGY
drhemp
08-03-2009, 11:00 AM
A new political party might be exciting if the UK were a democracy.
However, the UK's first past the post electoral system is anything but democratic and means no new party has a cat in hells chance of winning and representation in parliament, let alone form a government.
Even the Lib Dums who get around 20% of the vote can only muster up a handful of MPs with the unfair FTTP system, although in recent times they did manage to increase their number of MPs by targeting constituencies, even though their national share of the vote is lower than it was in the 80s, when they just had 20 MPs.
The only people who claim the UK is a democracy are horrible Nazis like Jack Straw, as they know if the current undemocratic system were to replaced with a fair democratic system, people like him would never get their bums on a Ministerial jag.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is an illusion.
sophia_h
08-03-2009, 02:49 PM
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A new political party might be exciting if the UK were a democracy.
However, the UK's first past the post electoral system is anything but democratic and means no new party has a cat in hells chance of winning and representation in parliament, let alone form a government.
Even the Lib Dums who get around 20% of the vote can only muster up a handful of MPs with the unfair FTTP system, although in recent times they did manage to increase their number of MPs by targeting constituencies, even though their national share of the vote is lower than it was in the 80s, when they just had 20 MPs.
The only people who claim the UK is a democracy are horrible Nazis like Jack Straw, as they know if the current undemocratic system were to replaced with a fair democratic system, people like him would never get their bums on a Ministerial jag.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is an illusion.
Words from an American Founder:
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent
of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09).
Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
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jiffy
08-03-2009, 02:58 PM
A new political party might be exciting if the UK were a democracy.
However, the UK's first past the post electoral system is anything but democratic and means no new party has a cat in hells chance of winning and representation in parliament, let alone form a government.
Even the Lib Dums who get around 20% of the vote can only muster up a handful of MPs with the unfair FTTP system, although in recent times they did manage to increase their number of MPs by targeting constituencies, even though their national share of the vote is lower than it was in the 80s, when they just had 20 MPs.
The only people who claim the UK is a democracy are horrible Nazis like Jack Straw, as they know if the current undemocratic system were to replaced with a fair democratic system, people like him would never get their bums on a Ministerial jag.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is an illusion.
Great post
If my memory serves me corectly, any new party in Britain that wishes to be accepted 'as' a legimate party to run, must have a minimum amount of members or it won't get anywhere near the podium. I believe that Labour introduced this law only a few years ago. Maybe I am wrong. But I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
light_man
08-03-2009, 03:19 PM
A good politician under democracy is as unthinkable as an honest burglar.
the nine
08-03-2009, 03:32 PM
A good politician under democracy is as unthinkable as an honest burglar.
how about a burgalar who only breaks into corrupt organisations, and steels copies of their corruption and illegalities and accomplices, then posts them online at many sources, but does not make any monies from these acts..
not so unthinkable...;)
nectars
08-03-2009, 03:43 PM
As Hunter S.Thompson would have said -who really benifits from this?
drhemp
08-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Words from an American Founder:
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent
of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09).
Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
In the UK it's not even 49%. In the UK the approximate 20% of adults on the electoral register who voted Labour at the last election get to dictate what the other 80%, except that's not really true, as most Labour voters I know cannot stand New Labour. Also the 20% figure is actually lower if you take into the fact an awful lot of adults of voting age are not on the electoral register.
the worm that turned
08-03-2009, 05:42 PM
So a better solution to Independents (i.e. not representing any of the recognised major parties) attempting to genuinely represent their constituents is???
sukyspook
08-03-2009, 05:51 PM
'The system' as it stands is so corrupt, so broken, so unworkable that like the private banking cartel it has to fall....
It became pretty obvious to me a number of years ago that anything 'the system' wants is not good for humanity.
'They' want globalization ie global totalitarianism.
In my own heart I know that the best way is to come home to as local as possible - fundamentally to your own heart to get to know yourself first then you may be able to know the manipulation we're all prisoners of....
Think local and ACT LOCAL is what we should all be touting for.
This way of thinking is currently being 'dissed' by the marionettes of the elite like Gordon Brown as 'protectionism' and 'nationalism'.
However, protectionism and to a lesser extent nationalism are what we should be working towards but more importantly - localism is the only way forward for any kind of peaceful future for all of humanity.
drhemp
08-03-2009, 05:52 PM
So a better solution to Independents (i.e. not representing any of the recognised major parties) attempting to genuinely represent their constituents is???
... to line the current lot up against a wall and shoot them followed by a complete overhaul of the system of government, including the courts, the military, the banking system, local government, ... everything
darryl84
08-03-2009, 06:03 PM
I haven't fully researched this yet as the site only went live last night but worth a look
http://www.juryteam.org/
Apparently it will be Independents forming a political party not influenced by the major parties (Labour, Libs, and Tories).
Immediately slightly sceptical as it is started by a Sir who is a former Tory, but could be proved wrong.
First question I have for any person intending to join is if they are Common Purpose!
Started by someone who was knighted by the queen? I think it is desperate hope if it is thought this political party would acheive anything major that illuminati members would oppose. Political parties need a lot of funding to be much of a success, where is the money going to come from for that to happen? And if it did, why would a lot of money be pumped into that party?
Basically, almost certainly another distraction from the NWO agenda.
nirvana
08-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Why would true Independents want to join a party?
Because they are not true independents.
Peace:)