Any non-religous ones?

[eternal_spirit]

Like me.

[purple is a fruit]

Like me.

are you asking if any one is not religious?
well I am most certainly not. Religiously emptying my bowels daily is about as close as i get to religion :)

[informationx]

I'm not religious. I would call myself interested in "spiritual" matters or the search in, "inner space"

But I am interested in religion. I find the history, culture, and methods of it fascinating.

[titurel]

Depends how one defines the word religion.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, football can be described as a religion or anything that one is passionate about.

The biggest religion in the world today is the religion of money and the golden calf of capitalism, which originated in Babylon.

Even if none of us were members of a typical organised religion, we are still religious because we are forced to be part of the monetary system, with our bank accounts supporting illuminati banks, etc. We are forced to worship the beast of civilisation. In this sense, we are all in bondage to Babylon and Egypt.

Redemption from the Beast 666 and its perverse religion must come soon!

Let the truth be told and let the sun and the moon and the stars fall (and they sure shall)!

[eternal_spirit]

are you asking if any one is not religious?
well I am most certainly not. Religiously emptying my bowels daily is about as close as i get to religion :)


:D lmao yes think some of the religous ones need to empty their brains of shit as well as thier bowels what a shitty mess religion is.

[eternal_spirit]

Depends how one defines the word religion.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, football can be described as a religion or anything that one is passionate about.

The biggest religion in the world today is the religion of money and the golden calf of capitalism, which originated in Babylon.

Even if none of us were members of a typical organised religion, we are still religious because we are forced to be part of the monetary system, with our bank accounts supporting illuminati banks, etc. We are forced to worship the beast of civilisation. In this sense, we are all in bondage to Babylon and Egypt.

Redemption from the Beast 666 and its perverse religion must come soon!

Let the truth be told and let the sun and the moon and the stars fall (and they sure shall)!


Yes, but we have no choice to live in the system based on money etc, it's a matter of survival having to play by the rules. Religion you can choose to convert to another if you don't like the one you are born into in most cases, unless you happen to be born into a strict religious society that doesn't tolerate anyone not following their religion.

[jinjo5]

Im about as religious as an house brick!
If you mean religious as in the Bible,christianity
and all the other faiths of the world.
No way,its all made up nonsense anyway
and look at all the trouble its caused down
the centuries.
In ireland communities are still separated by giant
walls and fences cos one lot is catholic,the other protestant.
It really is staggeringly exasperating and stupid.
people blew each other up just to say that
"my god is better than your god"....yes,i know there's
more to it than just that.
It really is astonishingly pathetic.
The same goes to all the other "faiths",its bullshit
and complete nonsense.

....PS...Arent Jehovahs witnesses just the pits? how stupid can you get?
what goes through their minds?.....they need therapy!!
...pps......im a very spiritual and deep thinking person though.:D;)

[eternal_spirit]

Im about as religious as an house brick!
If you mean religious as in the Bible,christianity
and all the other faiths of the world.
No way,its all made up nonsense anyway
and look at all the trouble its caused down
the centuries.
In ireland communities are still separated by giant
walls and fences cos one lot is catholic,the other protestant.
It really is staggeringly exasperating and stupid.
people blew each other up just to say that
"my god is better than your god"....yes,i know there's
more to it than just that.
It really is astonishingly pathetic.
The same goes to all the other "faiths",its bullshit
and complete nonsense.

....PS...Arent Jehovahs witnesses just the pits? how stupid can you get?
what goes through their minds?.....they need therapy!!
...pps......im a very spiritual and deep thinking person though.:D;)

Well put, the above actually makes alot more sense than the religous books do. I think we would be better off without religion, it creates too many divisons. If man spent more time helping his fellow man instead of praying to some imaginary God for answers and solutions about problems only man can solve. It's the most logical and sane way for a human to be without religion, you know it makes sense.

[garth]

"any institution or individual that set itself or himself up as a intermediary between you and god is by it's very nature a luciferian or devilish force" Stuart Wilde-Gods Gladiators....so me religious..definitely not ..(substitute god for universe, higher consciousness, or whatever spins ya wheels:D)

[titurel]

Yes, but we have no choice to live in the system based on money etc, it's a matter of survival having to play by the rules. Religion you can choose to convert to another if you don't like the one you are born into in most cases, unless you happen to be born into a strict religious society that doesn't tolerate anyone not following their religion.
I pointed out that we have no choice to live in the money based system but my point is we are all members of a religion whether we like it or not, even if it's only in the religion of money... because we are forced to (unless anyone knows of a nice desert island...!)

[eternal_spirit]

"any institution or individual that set itself or himself up as a intermediary between you and god is by it's very nature a luciferian or devilish force" Stuart Wilde-Gods Gladiators....so me religious..definitely not ..(substitute god for universe, higher consciousness, or whatever spins ya wheels:D)


True, why limit yourself to a religion when there is much more knowledge, possibilities without one. You don't need religion to expand on spiritualness or higher conciousness.

[titurel]

"any institution or individual that set itself or himself up as a intermediary between you and god is by it's very nature a luciferian or devilish force" Stuart Wilde -Gods Gladiators....so me religious..definitely not ..(substitute god for universe, higher consciousness, or whatever spins ya wheels:D)
Yes you are religious because we're all forced into living in and partaking of the illuminati's Luciferian religion. The religion of the illuminati is all about them being a mediator between us (and their not giving us any choice) and their Supreme Architect of the Universe (Satan, who has posed through out the history of civilisation as the Pagan Messiahs, the Antichrist that the NWO agenda is waiting for, along with Luciferians). Thus, government itself is a religion because governments are locked into the religious NWO agenda. Life itself is therefore a religion and no one is free because, as the famous quote goes that Icke often quotes, he who thinks is free is least free. We are all in Babylon Bondage and the only way out is via the one true faith because we are only just now emerging out of a very long and dark tunnel. Let's make sure we're opening our eyes, not to the false light of the world but rather the true light. If religion can be defined as "connecting with source", then finding the true light is a religion also. We cannot escape religion because even if we kid ourselves into believing we are not in a religion, then we still have to face the reality that we're in the illuminati's Matrix...

[tru3]

Depends how one defines the word religion.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, football can be described as a religion or anything that one is passionate about.

The biggest religion in the world today is the religion of money and the golden calf of capitalism, which originated in Babylon.

Even if none of us were members of a typical organised religion, we are still religious because we are forced to be part of the monetary system, with our bank accounts supporting illuminati banks, etc. We are forced to worship the beast of civilisation. In this sense, we are all in bondage to Babylon and Egypt.

Redemption from the Beast 666 and its perverse religion must come soon!

Let the truth be told and let the sun and the moon and the stars fall (and they sure shall)!

good way of putting it. the word religion comes from the latin religare, "to bind".

it seems to me that some forum members are bound up by their own pov (present company excepted, of course ;)).

the new religion in the postmodern age is one's own opinion.

there, i just established the church of tru3. :cool:

[eternal_spirit]

good way of putting it. the word religion comes from the latin religare, "to bind".

it seems to me that some forum members are bound up by their own pov (present company excepted, of course ;)).

the new religion in the postmodern age is one's own opinion.

there, i just established the church of tru3. :cool:

Greetings to the C of t. :D

It's all faith based is religion. No scientific evidence can prove God exists.
You can believe God exists, doesn't make him it she a reality does it. People can choose to do good acts which could be seen as godly or evil acts seen as the work of the devil.

I had it from an early age at a catholic school (Jesus is you're saviour) You're told you are a bad person who sides with the devil if you don't confess you're sins and repent. How much of a sinner can a 5 year old kid be honsetly!
Then they tell us we ARE BORN WITH ORIGINAL SIN oops caps lock. It was Adam and Eves fault apparantley and Jesus died so are sins could be forgiven! (excuse me Jesus died becasue the Roman's crucified him) Or if the crucifixion is really symbolic of the soltices and equinoxes etc then it means there was no crucifixion of a man named Jesus, which means Christianity is PAGANISM revised.

[pedsi]

I religously go for a shit every morning...:rolleyes:

[auron]

I religiously smoke. That's about it. :)

[Anders Lindman]

I think that religions have value in pointing to more than the material side of reality, so I don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater, yet much it seems in religion is merely material power trips, greed and belief system programming. That side of religion I don't like.

[Anders Lindman]

the new religion in the postmodern age is one's own opinion.

there, i just established the church of tru3. :cool:

That is a powerful concept. Religions often try to lock people's whole belief systems into narrow and dogmatic views. A more modern view would be to allow people more flexibility, and that would include people who wanted to adamantly stick to one particular religion. The more modern view would on an individual basis allow for both strict adherence to a traditional religion and no adherence at all, and all combinations in between.

[eternal_spirit]

All the religions have had thousands of years to be tolerant of each other and you still can't live in peace! You will never agree and will always be at odds!

The only answer to save mankind is an all out ban on any religion.

[graflok]

I think of myself as spiritual but not religious.

To me, "religious" means that you "worship" something and "worship" means
"enslaved by."

[eternal_spirit]

So far I've had six people stating they are none religous. Does this mean the majority on here are religous? WAKE UP ALL OF YOU READ SOME DAVID ICKE! Or do some research! If you can't be assed doing that......Ask yourself why are you allowing you're mind to be controlled by religion, learn to think for yourself it's the best advice I can offer you.

[eternal_spirit]

I think of myself as spiritual but not religious.

To me, "religious" means that you "worship" something and "worship" means
"enslaved by."

Yes! :D

[jinjo5]

So far I've had six people stating they are none religous. Does this mean the majority on here are religous? WAKE UP ALL OF YOU READ SOME DAVID ICKE! Or do some research! If you can't be assed doing that......Ask yourself why are you allowing you're mind to be controlled by religion, learn to think for yourself it's the best advice I can offer you.
Maybe people are little reticent about even saying the word RELIGION!,just in case theyre knocked up in the middle of the night and taken away or summat nasty put through their letter boxes.
You can offend next door's cat just by saying RELIGION! these days.
Its nowt to be scared of.
I suppose i'll have lost my place in heaven now......nevermind,back to my prayers:D

[eternal_spirit]

Okay, I can see I'm busy making friends on the religous threads again. :D

I'll go into more detail and explain why I feel the way I do. I'll get back to this later.

[bigus_dickus]

So far I've had six people stating they are none religous. Does this mean the majority on here are religous? WAKE UP ALL OF YOU READ SOME DAVID ICKE! Or do some research! If you can't be assed doing that......Ask yourself why are you allowing you're mind to be controlled by religion, learn to think for yourself it's the best advice I can offer you.

oh cool, here's one thinking for himself, at last. let's see, which thoughts of these, or others are entirely your own?

[eternal_spirit]

oh cool, here's one thinking for himself, at last. let's see, which thoughts of these, or others are entirely your own?

Well I trust Icke a whole lot more than any of the religous texts I've read.
Guess you are mind controlled by a certain religion. Mr dick?

[bigus_dickus]

Well I trust Icke a whole lot more than any of the religous texts I've read.

why?

Guess you are mind controlled by a certain religion. Mr dick?

guess again.

[eternal_spirit]

Read my signature and weep religous fools:D

David Icke can live up to the books title ( I am me I am free ) Imagine if he was relgious. He'd say I am me I am free except I have to face mecca get down on my knees worship alah and pray 5 times a day. :rolleyes:

[eternal_spirit]

why?



guess again.


Explain.....

[bigus_dickus]

Read my signature and weep religous fools:D

David Icke can live up to the books title ( I am me I am free ) Imagine if he was relgious. He'd say I am me I am free except I have to face mecca get down on my knees worship alah and pray 5 times a day. :rolleyes:

of course icke could not be religious. most of the gurus that exist or ever existed, they are the religions themselves, otherwise how would people put their faith and trust on them?

[eternal_spirit]

I'm used to being in the minority, not one to follow the crowd. I've tried and do try to avoid the herd mentallity. I reject the programming to the best of my capabilities, so my true self can be found and projected into this world.

Part of the programming I see is religous and the culture given to us by the Elite brotherhood ( part of their plan ) is to supress the individuals uniqueness and creativity, which to me is the real person which resides in all of us. The Brotherhood's Music and Religion are two of the biggest hurdles to overcome and to break through that programming takes commitment, courage and can be a lonley path at times. Be true to yourself, kind, and patient and to others around you when you can.

I have researched religions and come to the conclusion the more research I have done the more evil, lies, hatred and mind control it involves. I challenge anyone here who follows a religion to do as much research on the subject as I have done myself, to look into and sudy it and see if in time you agree with me.....The world would be a better place without religion. :)

[cheeb]

Why does it matter anyway,
We are all born from our mothers,
And die in the end,
Any theology/'philosophy/idealogy.
you hold onto in life
counts for nothing,
be you a

christian/aetheist,
thinker/thicker
communist/capitalist.

not one of those beleifs will increase your life by
one day
one week
or one year,

just get on with it ,
you might not get to do it again,

POE
pTTp

[eternal_spirit]

Why does it matter anyway,
We are all born from our mothers,
And die in the end,
Any theology/'philosophy/idealogy.
you hold onto in life
counts for nothing,
be you a

christian/aetheist,
thinker/thicker
communist/capitalist.

not one of those beleifs will increase your life by
one day
one week
or one year,

just get on with it ,
you might not get to do it again,

POE
pTTp

Fair point
It's a long life at times though. Becoming involved with religion can mess up you're life for many years. Ones who are drawn to religion can also be the ones drawn to the occult, its logical really, the two would seem to be the same thing! Books, rituals, spirits, angels, demons , priests, hiearachy, God, Godesses, off shoots from one group to form many other groups revolving around the same things.

[phoebe]

:D lmao yes think some of the religous ones need to empty their brains of shit as well as thier bowels what a shitty mess religion is.

Well put, the above actually makes alot more sense than the religous books do. I think we would be better off without religion, it creates too many divisons. If man spent more time helping his fellow man instead of praying to some imaginary God for answers and solutions about problems only man can solve. It's the most logical and sane way for a human to be without religion, you know it makes sense.

So far I've had six people stating they are none religous. Does this mean the majority on here are religous? WAKE UP ALL OF YOU READ SOME DAVID ICKE! Or do some research! If you can't be assed doing that......Ask yourself why are you allowing you're mind to be controlled by religion, learn to think for yourself it's the best advice I can offer you.


What humanity as a whole needs is more tolerance toward our fellow man and his right to choose for himself without fear of ridicule and persecution, no matter what his choices.
Instead what we have is people, such as yourself, proclaiming that they know what is best for everybody else, and that they are opposed to religion because it causes such conflict and division.
But, it appears, what you fail to see is that your anti-religion stance is, in itself, yet more of that conflict and division you so despise.

Instead of being anti-religion, why not be pro-choice?

Live and let live.
Each to his own.
There's no accounting for taste.
etcetera etcetera etcetera

I, by the way, am not religious.

[bigus_dickus]

I'm used to being in the minority, not one to follow the crowd. I've tried and do try to avoid the herd mentallity. I reject the programming to the best of my capabilities, so my true self can be found and projected into this world.

do you mean that you are intentionally choosing to be in the minority, stand out and lead the crowd to a better world? or is it just a selfish desire of finding and projecting your true self? am i talking to your true one, or to the false one right now?

Part of the programming I see is religous and the culture given to us by the Elite brotherhood ( part of their plan ) is to supress the individuals uniqueness and creativity, which to me is the real person which resides in all of us.

how exactly has the 'elite brotherhood' deprived you from your right in uniqueness, creativity, the real you?

do you mean that you have been religious and now you aren't?

The Brotherhood's Music and Religion are two of the biggest hurdles to overcome and to break through that programming takes commitment, courage and can be a lonley path at times. Be true to yourself, kind, and patient and to others around you when you can.

now now, with that jesus talk.. i thought you weren't religious, why are you telling me how to be?

I have researched religions and come to the conclusion the more research I have done the more evil, lies, hatred and mind control it involves. I challenge anyone here who follows a religion to do as much research on the subject as I have done myself, to look into and sudy it and see if in time you agree with me.....The world would be a better place without religion. :)

wait a minute. you mean that the world is evil-free without religions? how do you know that? can i really trust you for saying this?

why is jesus christ evil for example, or the eternal life in heaven, or the following of the 10 commandments? jesus said love your self and your people as you love yourself, as you love god. can you explain where exactly is the evil mind controlling subliminal message?

[garth]

You can make a religion out of pretty much anything

God Program - ingrained deeply in our make up and the collective consciousness is the God program. This has been a part of our human experience since the beginning and has been amped up by all the religions and the matrix/PTB over time. Essentially it lets people either knowingly or unknowingly create a god out of anyone who shows charisma, strength, conviction, knowledge or has some form of clear message that resonates in some part with them.

You can see this with Doctors, because they have some letters after there name and are supposed experts in there field, patients hang off every word the doctor says, even when it's wrong, the patient has given away his/her personal power to the god program.

For as he scripture says

Be still, and know that I am god (Psalm 46:10) for there is no need to make anyone else a god (or conduit to get to god), because you are one already yourself, and so is everyone else here, we are all gods.

[eternal_spirit]

Okay, the simple answer is you need to do you're research and wake up take a look at the real world and what religion is (a form of division) I'll get back to this thread later. Thanks for the replies.

[bigus_dickus]

Okay, the simple answer is you need to do you're research and wake up take a look at the real world and what religion is (a form of division) I'll get back to this thread later. Thanks for the replies.

yes, master. :)

[garth]

Yes you are religious because we're all forced into living in and partaking of the illuminati's Luciferian religion. The religion of the illuminati is all about them being a mediator between us (and their not giving us any choice) and their Supreme Architect of the Universe (Satan, who has posed through out the history of civilisation as the Pagan Messiahs, the Antichrist that the NWO agenda is waiting for, along with Luciferians). Thus, government itself is a religion because governments are locked into the religious NWO agenda. Life itself is therefore a religion and no one is free because, as the famous quote goes that Icke often quotes, he who thinks is free is least free. We are all in Babylon Bondage and the only way out is via the one true faith because we are only just now emerging out of a very long and dark tunnel. Let's make sure we're opening our eyes, not to the false light of the world but rather the true light. If religion can be defined as "connecting with source", then finding the true light is a religion also. We cannot escape religion because even if we kid ourselves into believing we are not in a religion, then we still have to face the reality that we're in the illuminati's Matrix...

True..but..if you are aware of what the PTB are up to, and there modus operandi you can choose to partake in it, or to not give your consent.

The PTB use your and my energy as the source of there control and therefore as the fuel for their religion. Be aware, take back your personal power and invest it where your intuition guides you.

So as True says, sorta becomes the religion of YOU:)

[eternal_spirit]

Geez, looks like I may have to compose a shit list of facts about how an why religion sucks to wake some of you up from you're programming.

[bigus_dickus]

last year, a friend invited me to a forum called "anti-dogma". he said it was cool, there were some famous people in it, freedom of speech, etc.

in 2 months i was banned. never mentioned anything about religion there however.

:D

[cheeb]

[QUOTE=phoebe;69983]What humanity as a whole needs is more tolerance toward our fellow man and his right to choose for himself without fear of ridicule and persecution, no matter what his choices.
Instead what we have is people, such as yourself, proclaiming that they know what is best for everybody else, and that they are opposed to religion because it causes such conflict and division.
But, it appears, what you fail to see is that your anti-religion stance is, in itself, yet more of that conflict and division you so despise.

Instead of being anti-religion, why not be pro-choice?

Live and let live.
Each to his own.
There's no accounting for taste.
etcetera etcetera etcetera

I, by the way, am not religious.[/QUOTE


pheobe,
sorry to be a baptism of fire,

But at one time I was Involved in a cultist type thing,
one of our stuff was

Live and let live

We read this back to front

Evil tell DNA Evil

Evil tell man Evil

There was an expression
on a church that caused us a great deal of humour

Honi soit com honi pence

we took it to mean,

what you manifest as evil, becomes evil,

Enjoy the forum

They're are well meaning idiots that live here aswell

Poe
PtTP

[eternal_spirit]

last year, a friend invited me to a forum called "anti-dogma". he said it was cool, there were some famous people in it, freedom of speech, etc.

in 2 months i was banned. never mentioned anything about religion there however.

:D

LOL doubt I'd have lasted that long. anti dogma was married to uncle dogmatic and he had the final say.

[eternal_spirit]

True..but..if you are aware of what the PTB are up to, and there modus operandi you can choose to partake in it, or to not give your consent.

The PTB use your and my energy as the source of there control and therefore as the fuel for their religion. Be aware, take back your personal power and invest it where your intuition guides you.

So as True says, sorta becomes the religion of YOU:)

Agreed. My Grandfather would say You are you're own God.

[bigus_dickus]

Geez,

you mean, jesus! ;)

Euphemistic blasphemy (http://eikonoklastes.org/articles/2006/05/13/euphemistic-blasphemy)

Posted by Michael Hartl on Κυριακή, 14 Μάιος 2006

In the Bible, the Third Commandment proscribes taking the Lord’s name in vain—but, judging from the profusion of sound-alike euphemisms in circulation, the impulse must be nigh irrepressible. The canonical pornographic and scatological swears have only a few such euphemisms: “fuck” has “fudge”, while “fucking” has “fricking”, “frigging”, and “freaking” (and even these are questionable in polite company); “shit” has “shoot” and not much else. But just look at all the euphemisms for blasphemy:

Gosh, golly, darn, dang, gadzooks, egad, doggone, dadgum, dagnabbit, goodness, goodness gracious, good grief, gee, geez, gee whiz, gee willikers, jeepers, jeepers creepers, jeez Louise, crikey, criminy, cripes, crying out loud

One thing I love about some of these euphemisms is that you can almost hear their origins. Some father somewhere, within earshot of his kids, starts one way and ends another: “Oh, for Ch[rist’s sake]rying out loud!” or “Je[sus Christ]eez Louise!”

I have a cousin who once invented his own euphemism—“geez o’flippies”—for a particular sacrilegious swear. Being quite young when I first heard it, I asked him why he used such a strange exclamation. “It’s nicer than saying ‘Jesus Fucking Christ’,” he replied. I have to admit that’s true.

[eternal_spirit]

What humanity as a whole needs is more tolerance toward our fellow man and his right to choose for himself without fear of ridicule and persecution, no matter what his choices.
Instead what we have is people, such as yourself, proclaiming that they know what is best for everybody else, and that they are opposed to religion because it causes such conflict and division.
But, it appears, what you fail to see is that your anti-religion stance is, in itself, yet more of that conflict and division you so despise.

Instead of being anti-religion, why not be pro-choice?

Live and let live.
Each to his own.
There's no accounting for taste.
etcetera etcetera etcetera

I, by the way, am not religious.

Fair points. But I'm not going to hurt anyone who doesn't agree with my none religous stance, unlike many relgious ones would to another ones faith ( or lack of faith ) If people of different faiths can live in peace together that's fine. They can choose to worship who ever or what ever they wish.

[cheeb]

you mean, jesus! ;)

Euphemistic blasphemy (http://eikonoklastes.org/articles/2006/05/13/euphemistic-blasphemy)

Posted by Michael Hartl on Κυριακή, 14 Μάιος 2006

In the Bible, the Third Commandment proscribes taking the Lord’s name in vain—but, judging from the profusion of sound-alike euphemisms in circulation, the impulse must be nigh irrepressible. The canonical pornographic and scatological swears have only a few such euphemisms: “fuck” has “fudge”, while “fucking” has “fricking”, “frigging”, and “freaking” (and even these are questionable in polite company); “shit” has “shoot” and not much else. But just look at all the euphemisms for blasphemy:

Euphanisms are brilliant,1111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111
When someone got annoyed with me the other day,
they called me,
you cu
You custard pie
Anal repression is/cant be healthy
better to let it out ,than keep it in,

too tired to discust now(freudian slip)
see you lot tomorrow

POE

pTTp1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111
Gosh, golly, darn, dang, gadzooks, egad, doggone, dadgum, dagnabbit, goodness, goodness gracious, good grief, gee, geez, gee whiz, gee willikers, jeepers, jeepers creepers, jeez Louise, crikey, criminy, cripes, crying out loud

One thing I love about some of these euphemisms is that you can almost hear their origins. Some father somewhere, within earshot of his kids, starts one way and ends another: “Oh, for Ch[rist’s sake]rying out loud!” or “Je[sus Christ]eez Louise!”

I have a cousin who once invented his own euphemism—“geez o’flippies”—for a particular sacrilegious swear. Being quite young when I first heard it, I asked him why he used such a strange exclamation. “It’s nicer than saying ‘Jesus Fucking Christ’,” he replied. I have to admit that’s true.
ok

[bigus_dickus]

ok

i think i understand what you wrote.

well... just a little bit tho.

why should anyone be insulted anyway and for what reasons.. this is all a misunderstanding, all insults are misunderstandings..

[cheeb]

Sorry bd
for some reason my post got stuck in the middle of yours,
I highlighted it in 111111111
to avoid confusion.

[titurel]

Greetings to the C of t. :D

It's all faith based is religion. No scientific evidence can prove God exists.
You can believe God exists, doesn't make him it she a reality does it. People can choose to do good acts which could be seen as godly or evil acts seen as the work of the devil.

I had it from an early age at a catholic school (Jesus is you're saviour) You're told you are a bad person who sides with the devil if you don't confess you're sins and repent. How much of a sinner can a 5 year old kid be honsetly!
Then they tell us we ARE BORN WITH ORIGINAL SIN oops caps lock. It was Adam and Eves fault apparantley and Jesus died so are sins could be forgiven! (excuse me Jesus died becasue the Roman's crucified him) Or if the crucifixion is really symbolic of the soltices and equinoxes etc then it means there was no crucifixion of a man named Jesus, which means Christianity is PAGANISM revised.
Even atheism can be defined as a religion, if one is passionate about being an evangelist for it. It's also worth bearing in mind that the whole of Christendom is Paganism concealed but Revelation, the last book of the Bible, vividly describes how and why that is so. It is because Christendom's teachings come from Babylon, as does the 'religion' of Capitalism (via the Knights Templar). However, before the climax of the Apocalypse - - the great revealing of everything that we are living through - - Christendom's Churches will be exposed and fall when political powers turn on her and devour her. She will be gone forever and ever! We are living in the last days of this corrupt system and everything is gradually being exposed and dragged into the light more and more. Even more shall be revealed in the coming years. That is what Apocalyopse is all about. We're living in unique times in many repsects It will cause men who uphold the system to quake in their shoes with fear. However, understanding brings inner peace to those that 'know' and who wish not to be part of the system.

"But you, O Daniel, make secret the words, and seal up the book, until the time of the end: many shall rove about, and the true knowledge shall become abundant." (Daniel 12:4)

"Whatever is covered up will be uncovered and every secret will be made known. Wherefore what things you say in the darkness will be heard in the light, and what you whisper in private rooms will be preached from the housetops." (Luke 12:2)

[tru3]

I religiously smoke. That's about it. :)

then you would be welcome at the church of tru3, brother!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000046PS3.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_spirit
Geez,

you mean, jesus!

no, he means cheese and rice! i, the dope smoking pope, decree it!

does anyone have these 'megachurches' near them? maybe it's just an american phenomenon. one of em in our town has its own zip code, i think. they've pulled jesus through the electronic tit.

The Rise of the "Megachurch"
A new phenomenon is taking shape in America—one that is radically redefining the “Christian experience.” What is this trend, and why is it gaining popularity?
BY GABRIEL N. LISCHAK
After a stirring live performance of “Jesus is Better Than Life,” a woman takes center stage before a roaring, enthusiastic crowd of 16,000 people. She declares, “We’re going to rock today. This place has been rocked a lot of times, but it’s never been rocked for Jesus” (The Christian Science Monitor).

Every weekend, similar scenes play out across the United States, as millions of people flock to the latest craze in religious experience—gigantic, multi-million-dollar worship complexes called “megachurches.” Resembling concert halls or shopping malls, these churches are stirring up frenzy among those seeking a more modern approach to religion.

During a time in which congregations of nearly every faith and denomination are experiencing a decline in membership, megachurches are experiencing explosive growth.

Why?

Perhaps Alan Wolfe, a professor of political science at Boston College, describes the megachurch phenomenon best in his book The Transformation of American Religion: How We Actually Live Our Faith. In it, he writes, “American faith has met American culture—and American culture has triumphed.”

http://www.realtruth.org/articles/418-trotm.html

this is just my opinion (get ready for another chronic papal bull! :D), but when people pray alone, it's their business, pretty harmless, really.

when people start to congregate in the name of god, that's when the trouble starts.

[bigus_dickus]

when people start to congregate in the name of god, that's when the trouble starts.

not really... the name plays a little role to this.

it is called crowd psychology and it is a decent tool for mind control. it is literally taking advantage of people's faith (in every possible way that is, not only in god), to fulfill purposes different from that which brings those people together.

read about it and follow the link:

Crowd psychology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is a branch of social psychology. Ordinary people can typically gain direct power by acting collectively. Historically, because large groups of people have been able to effect dramatic and sudden social change in a manner that bypasses established due process, they have also provoked controversy. Social scientists have developed several different theories for explaining crowd psychology, and the ways in which the psychology of the crowd differs significantly from the psychology of those individuals within it. Carl Jung coined the notion of the Collective unconscious. Other major thinkers of crowd psychology include Gustave Le Bon, Wilfred Trotter, Gabriel Tarde, Sigmund Freud and Elias Canetti.

[eternal_spirit]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000046PS3.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg :D

[garth]

does anyone have these 'megachurches' near them? maybe it's just an american phenomenon. one of em in our town has its own zip code, i think. they've pulled jesus through the electronic tit.

The Rise of the "Megachurch"
A new phenomenon is taking shape in America—one that is radically redefining the “Christian experience.” What is this trend, and why is it gaining popularity?
BY GABRIEL N. LISCHAK
After a stirring live performance of “Jesus is Better Than Life,” a woman takes center stage before a roaring, enthusiastic crowd of 16,000 people. She declares, “We’re going to rock today. This place has been rocked a lot of times, but it’s never been rocked for Jesus” (The Christian Science Monitor).

Every weekend, similar scenes play out across the United States, as millions of people flock to the latest craze in religious experience—gigantic, multi-million-dollar worship complexes called “megachurches.” Resembling concert halls or shopping malls, these churches are stirring up frenzy among those seeking a more modern approach to religion.

During a time in which congregations of nearly every faith and denomination are experiencing a decline in membership, megachurches are experiencing explosive growth.

Why?

Perhaps Alan Wolfe, a professor of political science at Boston College, describes the megachurch phenomenon best in his book The Transformation of American Religion: How We Actually Live Our Faith. In it, he writes, “American faith has met American culture—and American culture has triumphed.”

http://www.realtruth.org/articles/418-trotm.html

this is just my opinion (get ready for another chronic papal bull! :D), but when people pray alone, it's their business, pretty harmless, really.

when people start to congregate in the name of god, that's when the trouble starts.

WOW..another form of energy raising ritual...Sunday must be the day of the feast:D

[eternal_spirit]

All religion is said to originate in India with the Hindu Vedic scriptures, all others came from this. One of their main symbols was the Swastika. Which is ancient Sanskrit means wheel of light swasti means well being, it's a sun symbol another version of a cross basically. The nazi's reversed the Swastika to represent negativity, destruction(not 100% sure) same as the satanists invert the pentagram.

The hexagram used in ritual magick also known as the seal of solomon is used by the masons, zionists etc Witchcraft (wicca etc hex means to curse) are said to be exactley the same rituals as the masons and the same symbols are used. Same goes for religion different names same games.

Masons and satanists both see baphomet as kind of demon God, it's a hemaphrodite. This explains sort of why God in the Bible has no Goddess..In high freemasonry, the spirits are said to have manifested physical bodys here on earth through thought power, but later had to breed with earth people. Unless they literally came from another planet, not from another dimension.
THE GODS AND GODDESSSES OF THE RELIGOUS TEXTS COULD WELL BE THe REPTILIANS OR ALIENS SO THINK AGAIN WHO IT IS YOUR WORSHIPPING GOOD OR EVIL?

Hope this helps <(-_-)> Anyone who doesn't know about this shit will think I'm nuts, it's a case of the truth is often stranger than fiction. But I have to keep an open mind and consider stranger possibilities.

[titurel]

All religion is said to originate in India with the Hindu Vedic scriptures
Actually, all organised religions originate from other dimensional beings... the Reptilians.

The hexagram used in ritual magick also known as the seal of solomon is used by the masons, zionists etc Witchcraft (wicca etc hex means to curse) are said to be exactley the same rituals as the masons and the same symbols are used. Same goes for religion different names same games.
"Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?
You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god [c]—
which you made for yourselves.
Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,"
says the LORD, whose name is God Almighty." - Amos 5:25-27
c. Amos 5:26 Or lifted up Sakkuth your king / and Kaiwan your idols, / your star-gods ; Septuagint lifted up the shrine of Molech / and the star of your god Rephan, / their idols

THE GODS AND GODDESSSES OF THE RELIGOUS TEXTS COULD WELL BE THe REPTILIANS OR ALIENS SO THINK AGAIN WHO IT IS YOUR WORSHIPPING GOOD OR EVIL?
Except the Bible. In the Bible, the Reptlians and their agenda is exposed and identified as Satanic.

[chris]

then you would be welcome at the church of tru3, brother!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000046PS3.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg



no, he means cheese and rice! i, the dope smoking pope, decree it!

does anyone have these 'megachurches' near them? maybe it's just an american phenomenon. one of em in our town has its own zip code, i think. they've pulled jesus through the electronic tit.

The Rise of the "Megachurch"
A new phenomenon is taking shape in America—one that is radically redefining the “Christian experience.” What is this trend, and why is it gaining popularity?
BY GABRIEL N. LISCHAK
After a stirring live performance of “Jesus is Better Than Life,” a woman takes center stage before a roaring, enthusiastic crowd of 16,000 people. She declares, “We’re going to rock today. This place has been rocked a lot of times, but it’s never been rocked for Jesus” (The Christian Science Monitor).

Every weekend, similar scenes play out across the United States, as millions of people flock to the latest craze in religious experience—gigantic, multi-million-dollar worship complexes called “megachurches.” Resembling concert halls or shopping malls, these churches are stirring up frenzy among those seeking a more modern approach to religion.

During a time in which congregations of nearly every faith and denomination are experiencing a decline in membership, megachurches are experiencing explosive growth.

Why?

Perhaps Alan Wolfe, a professor of political science at Boston College, describes the megachurch phenomenon best in his book The Transformation of American Religion: How We Actually Live Our Faith. In it, he writes, “American faith has met American culture—and American culture has triumphed.”

http://www.realtruth.org/articles/418-trotm.html

this is just my opinion (get ready for another chronic papal bull! :D), but when people pray alone, it's their business, pretty harmless, really.

when people start to congregate in the name of god, that's when the trouble starts.

Yes, the churches love to take other's successful phenomena, demonise it and convert it to their own. Evangelists preached how evil rock music. Seconds later...CHRISTIAN ROCK!!!! Outselling the original rock market.

I'm sure these mega churches are feeding off sports hysteria and making it so you can cheer god on Vs the devil (hot dogs and shitty organ music included).

If you can sell it to people that they are doomed for all eternity if they don’t do as you say then you’ve got a pretty good market.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vVzV50lqjA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nVP_qJf6_ow

[tru3]

Yes, the churches love to take other's successful phenomena, demonise it and convert it to their own. Evangelists preached how evil rock music. Seconds later...CHRISTIAN ROCK!!!! Outselling the original rock market.

I'm sure these mega churches are feeding off sports hysteria and making it so you can cheer god on Vs the devil (hot dogs and shitty organ music included).

If you can sell it to people that they are doomed for all eternity if they don’t do as you say then you’ve got a pretty good market.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vVzV50lqjA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nVP_qJf6_ow

there's a big outdoor christian rock festival about 10 miles from where i live:

http://www.answers.com/topic/ichthus-festival

about 20,000 people, mostly teens/twenties attend each year. the numbers don't increase, because a lot of these kids and up in the military; we have quite a few kids around here over in iraq .

talk about new-age rock and roll recruitment. :rolleyes:

[tru3]

not really... the name plays a little role to this.

it is called crowd psychology and it is a decent tool for mind control. it is literally taking advantage of people's faith (in every possible way that is, not only in god), to fulfill purposes different from that which brings those people together.

read about it and follow the link:

Crowd psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology) is a branch of social psychology. Ordinary people can typically gain direct power by acting collectively. Historically, because large groups of people have been able to effect dramatic and sudden social change in a manner that bypasses established due process, they have also provoked controversy. Social scientists have developed several different theories for explaining crowd psychology, and the ways in which the psychology of the crowd differs significantly from the psychology of those individuals within it. Carl Jung coined the notion of the Collective unconscious. Other major thinkers of crowd psychology include Gustave Le Bon, Wilfred Trotter, Gabriel Tarde, Sigmund Freud and Elias Canetti.

point taken. thanks b.d. i was being cavalier. ime, people coming together with the intention to heal is extremely powerful. i went to a.a. meetings for five years, which is very much rooted in the relationship with a higher power. i can attest to the power of the phrase, "when two or more are gathered in my name." :)

i guess it's hard for me to look at most organized religion, including sanghas, communes, ashrams, as separate from their interpersonal, social and economic underpinnings.

[pumma]

Like me.
Me too, my beliefs are not or don't need to be expressed in a (imprisoned) religious way... Religion is just part of a mass mind control ...

[chris]

I guess everyone’s definition of what a religion is is different...

I would say I have my own philosophy based on my own experience. Parts of it are religions as in, I do them regularly but the rest I would say is intuitive.