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space lizard
04-07-2007, 07:45 AM
Has anyone else seen this movie?

To me it perfectly illustrates some of the themes I have discovered through David Icke. For those unfamiliar with the film I'll give a brief outline.

a 33 year old man lives in a disgusting grotty room in an abandoned factory with his mother. She has convinced him that the air outside is poison and forbids he venture to look outside. There are no windows. When she leaves to enjoy the outside world, she threatens to beat him brainless if Jesus tells her that he has so much as moved off his seat.

When she leaves he spends the entire time wanting to go for a piss by is terrified that the crucifix with jesus hanging on the wall will grass him out to his mother, so he pisses himself and gets beaten by the mother when she returns anyway.

The film gets stranger when we see Bubby and his mother having sex, she knows this is wrong, but he does not. She is a big fat disgusting creature. Bubby goes along without thinking about it. He serves her needs and when he goes to satisfy himself through masturbation she slaps the shit out of him and calls him a filthy animal.

His dad arrives on the scene, a con-man preacher and a drunk. Bubby soon realises he is full of shit. The mum and the dad begin to party a lot and bubby is forgotten, he vies for attention and is beaten and kicked out with the gas mask for survival, they throw it out to him when they see he is having a seizure because he thinks the air is poison.

When he is allowed back in, he murders his cat with cling film because the cat allways goes out without a gas mask and he wants to know if it needs air. The cat dies and he can't work out why.

So when the parents are drunk and sleeping he wraps cling film arounf their heads and finds they too need air, but can not work out how they survived outside after comming home drunk without gas masks.

In a house full of rotting corpses, he decides to venture out with the gas mask and finds nobody outside is wearing them so it is disgarded. He then goes on to do loads of other crazy fun stuff even bedding lots of women and becoming a local rock star before finding love and happiness.

I watched it years ago and thought it was brilliant, now I realise him mother was Government / authority. The crucifix is guilt / prison religion. His father is the reality of religion. - A whole other bunch of secret messages are contained withn the film about repeaters etc.

Watch this film if you can, - brilliant film
fuck, I have been asleep my whole life.

montag
04-07-2007, 09:41 AM
Bad Boy Bubby (1993)

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/4/4297

barbitone
04-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Nice one dude. So true. Never thought of this movie in that way before. It is a very good symbolic representation.

Pretty damn disturbing film though. Especially when your not getting any info out of it like you have. I watched it a long time ago now though.... I'd say I'd like to watch it again to pick up the symbolism....but I'd rather not to be honest.:D Fucked up stuff man.:eek:

space lizard
04-07-2007, 10:28 AM
I know its a fucked up movie, but think about it, Him having sex with this grotesque beast of a women who orgasms then slaps him and calls him a filthy animal represents us going to work in jobs we hate every day and paying tax then being fined and imprisoned when we look to our own needs.

The cross on the wall and the dad comming home a drunken con man priest represents the reality about the church.

And the need for a gas mask to walk out of the prison is also an reference to us being convinced that we need material things because they are necessary for out survival and the myth that all who walk our of the matrix will perish and wind up homeless and insane.

barbitone
04-07-2007, 10:40 AM
You know your reality's fucked up in a grand way when it can be seamlessly symbolized with the life of Bad Boy Bubby! :eek:
Holy shit.

Lets cling film George Bush.:D

space lizard
04-07-2007, 11:34 AM
killing george bush is what the NWO want to happen to further their agenda of control and law making. It would suit them to a tee.

Do not be surprised when they sacrafice him once his usefulness expires.

barbitone
04-07-2007, 11:49 AM
killing george bush is what the NWO want to happen to further their agenda of control and law making. It would suit them to a tee.

Do not be surprised when they sacrafice him once his usefulness expires.

Yeah, no, I was just in pure joke mode there. I don't wish harm to anyone. Not even the Illuminati. He's just a poor fool. In fact they need more love than anyone. Love of this level we talk of must be unconditional or it is irrelevant.
The loomies would love us to hate them\fight them etc.....that's the game.

I like the quote "forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them more". :D

oneofmany
04-07-2007, 01:35 PM
I know its a fucked up movie, but think about it, Him having sex with this grotesque beast of a women who orgasms then slaps him and calls him a filthy animal represents us going to work in jobs we hate every day and paying tax then being fined and imprisoned when we look to our own needs.

The cross on the wall and the dad comming home a drunken con man priest represents the reality about the church.

And the need for a gas mask to walk out of the prison is also an reference to us being convinced that we need material things because they are necessary for out survival and the myth that all who walk our of the matrix will perish and wind up homeless and insane. I think your wrong my friend, and are looking too much into the movie. It was meant to be disturbing and to show that a retarded person can look upon the world in a totally different way, if conditioned to. The same goes with regular people if they are put into a situation that bad boy is put into. If you don't know any better, who's going to tell you?

space lizard
04-07-2007, 02:33 PM
A central theme of the movie is regurgitation of lies and truth, at the start of the movie he repeats everything he is told by authority. And abides to the rules of the silent Jesus hanging on the way because of fear. when the director wrote the film he wrote about childhood innocence, not retardation, that aspect was added by the actor, slight autism.

then he finds out about his long lost drunk scam artist father, who dresses like a priest to con people out of money, He regurgitates this he's hear the father say and is punished for repeating the things he has hear from dark side of the authority.

Then he tests the reality of the confines they have placed him in and finds its all false and that the obedience he has served his whole life has given him a life of nothing while there is so much more to the world than he has been led to believe.

He encounters various people alone the way and learns positive things and angry thing to repeat, he stand up fro himself and repeats the things he has heard from free spirits. He then becomes free.

I think the movie can be associate with logans run, its them of hitting a certain age in life and knowing theres a brick wall approaching fast. Then taking destiny into your own hands and stepping out into the freedom and truth.

I don't think it possible to read to much into great art. Some things are timeless like the pink floyd album Dark side of the moon. You either get it or you sleep through and miss the point.

(Yes I know logans run was a bit naff acting wise, but it was a trigger in the head when I was a kid that made men think about the nature of reality aged about 9)

space lizard
04-07-2007, 02:48 PM
This from the director of the film:

I wanted to make a film about childhood, about the importance of being loved as a child. Previous research for an aborted project about serial killers had taught me that almost without exception serial killers had had some form of deprived childhood. Is this then an indication that perhaps the single most important thing we can do is to love our children without abuse? The film became for me, a plea for childhood.

It also became for me a film about the way we judge people...usually by superficial appearances, almost always arbitrary societal or ethnocentric standards. Often wrongly or unfairly... Bubby has only met one other person in his life, on whom he is completely dependent. He has a very narrow value system, but one that is uncorrupted by TV, radio, books, pictures. He is uncorrupted by the pressure to conform, by aspiration. He has no real basis for comparison, therefore no real basis for making judgements about people. In that sense he is a complete innocent.

Using Bubby's non judgemental view of the world I was then able to begin to explore parts of it. The film is a mere perambulation through random aspects of people and society and in so doing begins to form some pictures of the whole.

The world is funny and tragic, ugly and beautiful, spiteful and forgiving, loving and hateful, honest and hypocritical. Thats also how Bubby finds it, and how it deals with him. The world or rather the people within it teach Bubby how to be...he learns from them how to behave. It is much the same in the real world...how each of us deal with another helps determine how that other will be.

It became a film about appearances, What is beautiful? What is ugly? To whom?. In what circumstances? What is Innocence?. What is Guilt?

It also became a film about belief systems...spiritual, religious, scientific, interpersonal...and how by clinging to them in order to try to make sense of the world, we are actually prevented from making sense of it.

But mostly it became a film about questions rather than answers. It is a film that asks questions about the way we perceive the world and those in it, and how we lead the viewer to ask those same questions themselves.